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RB Darrel Williams - Arizona (2 Viewers)

VikingFrog said:
I badly need an RB2, so I hope this is true.

Not sure I can start him tomorrow due to the unknown, but would love for him to have a great day and get a majority of the share.
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He's a strong hold right now imo but a risky start this weekend. Sunday will be interesting.

 
Weebs210 said:
He's a strong hold right now imo but a risky start this weekend. Sunday will be interesting.
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My opponent has McCoy and I have Darrell in a win-and-in playoff matchup for both of us. 

Makes this situation even all the more intriguing.

I drafted and held and the. traded McCoy a few weeks ago only to see the guy who I traded him to drop him (for good reason)... is it will be salt in the wound if he does well.

 
Weebs210 said:
He's a strong hold right now imo but a risky start this weekend. Sunday will be interesting.
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I would be ok with starting him at flex in ppr.  He produced both games this year with Damien out and the matchup is right

in non ppr I would lean mccoy out of the two right now but will definitely be paying attention to reports Sunday morning

 
Somehow within this same week I ended up picking up McCoy first with the questionable tag on Damien. Then Darrel was out there as well. Dropped Scarbrough for Darrel Williams as a wait n' see which one to potentially start. Both of these guys sitting on the waiver wire as FA's. I have 5 RB's and could start or sit both, or most likely at least play one of them. The insane thought of starting both as playoff seeding is on the line. Currently in second with others needing a win, coupled with my loss, and lots of points to move up. I'd like to maintain my 2nd seeding and get a bye next week.

I do plan on getting the W. Tied 8.5 to 8.5 my J Cook vs his A Cooper.

 
The TD was nice ... 16 yards from scrimmage wasn't.

Didn't watch this game, but it looks like Darrell Williams has no path forward in Kansas City. Looked like a for-sure late season FFB bust-out two months ago, but no.

 
Doug B said:
The TD was nice ... 16 yards from scrimmage wasn't.

Didn't watch this game, but it looks like Darrell Williams has no path forward in Kansas City. Looked like a for-sure late season FFB bust-out two months ago, but no.
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Agreed. I think Thompson may be the better guy to have at this point, although who knows how much playing time he’ll get if either or both Williams return next week. With a playoff push in process, have to think Reid will be favoring the vets in the backfield.

 
Doug B said:
The TD was nice ... 16 yards from scrimmage wasn't.

Didn't watch this game, but it looks like Darrell Williams has no path forward in Kansas City. Looked like a for-sure late season FFB bust-out two months ago, but no.
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Things were setting up for him to have a big game until he got hurt, now it's all out the window.

 
Doug B said:
Didn't know he was hurt. The danger of drawing conclusions from a stat box alone.
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While it's pretty clear that Darrel won't be the #1 unless McCoy and Damien are both hurt, I'd add in one more thing regarding the box score / scrimmage yards.  Darrel got called on for the tough yards yesterday - the 3rd and 1s, etc.  The 1 or 2 yard gain in the box score doesn't look pretty even though it's a success against a stacked front in real life.

What is encouraging is that he continues to get targeted in the pass game.  Had a second catch that could have been had it not been for a high and possibly wind-blown pass from Mahomes.

 
Doug B said:
Didn't know he was hurt. The danger of drawing conclusions from a stat box alone.
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Yeah, it was actually pretty encouraging, up until the injury of course- he was splitting early reps with McCoy and getting most/all the 3rd down and short yardage snaps, and Darwin didn't have a single touch until after the injury. Both McCoy and Darwin had pretty easy, short TD runs after as well. Oh, well.

 
rschroeder1 said:
While it's pretty clear that Darrel won't be the #1 unless McCoy and Damien are both hurt, I'd add in one more thing regarding the box score / scrimmage yards.  Darrel got called on for the tough yards yesterday - the 3rd and 1s, etc.  The 1 or 2 yard gain in the box score doesn't look pretty even though it's a success against a stacked front in real life.

What is encouraging is that he continues to get targeted in the pass game.  Had a second catch that could have been had it not been for a high and possibly wind-blown pass from Mahomes.
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He got stuffed early (when it was still a competitive game) on consecutive 3rd & 4th downs.  Needed 1 used, got two straight shots at getting it; failed and cost them points (they were in FG range, I believe).  The 2 straight 0 yard gains can’t be considered a success in real life.

 
Bayhawks said:
He got stuffed early (when it was still a competitive game) on consecutive 3rd & 4th downs.  Needed 1 used, got two straight shots at getting it; failed and cost them points (they were in FG range, I believe).  The 2 straight 0 yard gains can’t be considered a success in real life.
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No, but what I was trying to get at is that in a small sample of carries, situational football has to be taken into account.  Getting stuffed on 3rd or 4th and 1 against a stacked front is what it is.  It doesn't tell us all that much, in my opinion.  Same as if he gained 1 yard on the play for a first down.  I just wasn't specific enough.

 
Chiefs coach Andy Reid said there is a "good chance" Darrel Williams (hamstring) doesn't play in Week 14 against the Patriots.

Reid didn't have an update on Damien Williams (ribs), who hasn't touched the practice field since initially sustaining an injury in Mexico City. Kansas City's backfield is a touch-and-go situation at the moment since sixth-round rookie Darwin Thompson relieved Darrel (hamstring) for a season-high 11 touches once the latter left with a non-contact injury Sunday. With LeSean McCoy reportedly getting "managed" over the team's final four games, Thompson arguably makes for a league-winning pickup if Damien remains sidelined.

SOURCE: Sam McDowell on Twitter

Dec 2, 2019, 1:08 PM ET
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Darrel Williams (hamstring) is not practicing Wednesday.

As expected. Williams is expected to miss Week 14 against the Patriots. Damien Williams (ribs) also remained sidelined Wednesday, though he seems to have a better shot to play. He would need to practice Thursday or Friday at the latest, however. Darwin Thompson and LeSean McCoy will handle the bulk of the work if both Williamses miss this one.

SOURCE: Nate Taylor on Twitter

Dec 4, 2019, 1:14 PM ET
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Probably also puts a damper on his dynasty value, if there was any. He may have had a pretty big role the rest of this year and perhaps audition for next year. But now he'll probably be a forgotten piece by next year. 

 
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zamboni said:
Probably also puts a damper on his dynasty value, if there was any. He may have had a pretty big role the rest of this year and perhaps audition for next year. But now he'll probably be a forgotten piece by next year. 
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Probably. But he plays special teams, is cheap for 2020, so will still lurk or perhaps tease next year.

 
With Clyde Edwards-Helaire getting the day off, Darrel Williams received first-team reps in training camp.

Damien Williams' opt out vaulted Edwards-Helaire into a big role, but it also opens up a competition for the No. 2 running back job. Most assume DeAndre Washington is the favorite because he has NFL experience and was teammates with Patrick Mahomes in college, but Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson are also involved. The fact that Williams saw first-team reps makes him a worthwhile flier in the last round of deep fantasy leagues, even if Washington is ultimately the favorite.

SOURCE: Adam Teicher on Twitter

Aug 18, 2020, 6:53 PM ET
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Key position battles

"At the end of the day, you just want the best guys available,” Bieniemy told reporters on Saturday. “One thing Deland (McCullough) does a great job of is preparing all those guys to be the starter because, unfortunately, injuries do happen and we’re going to need all of those guys. But with a veteran like Darrel Williams, he’s done a hell of a job. He’s smart, he can run it, he does a great job of picking up the blitz, and he’s also good in the pass game as far as catching passes out on the perimeter. So, the thing is that we want to continue to grow with that position. Darwin (Thompson) has done a lot of great things this camp, DeAndre (Washington) is competing his tail off, Elijah (McGuire)—so it’s been good. But also, we want all of those guys to understand the importance of playing special teams as well because when it’s all said and done, all of us have to have a role that’s going to help us to be at our best. And regardless of whatever hat you’re wearing, you have to wear it with authority, understanding that I have to go out there and perform when called upon.”

We’ve seen this play out before. One guy prepares to be the starter all offseason, then injury strikes and another guy has to take up the mantle. That’s why the Chiefs prepare all of their running backs — all of their players for that matter — as if they’d be starters. So while Williams is RB2 behind Edwards-Helaire for now, that could ultimately change down the line.
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He was at the end of my bench for too long in 2019. If you draft him, the strategy should be to trade after a good week. He teased with talent in 2019, especially receiving, but there's too many other options.

 
Clyde Edwards-Helaire could split carries with Darrel Williams Week 1?

by Brad Camara | Chiefs Correspondent | Thu, Sep 3rd 12:57pm EDT

Clyde Edwards-Helaire and Darrel Williams could "split most of the Chiefs’ rushing attempts on opening night," per Nate Taylor of the Athletic. (The Athletic) 

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The Chiefs want to ease Edwards-Helaire against the Texans Week 1, and Williams has had an impressive camp. "Don’t be surprised if Edwards-Helaire and Williams split most of the Chiefs’ rushing attempts on opening night," Taylor added. "Chiefs' HC Andy Reid and offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy will want to ease Edwards-Helaire, the Chiefs’ first-round pick, into a rhythm against the Texans. Williams has been tremendous in camp, as he is the Chiefs’ best pass-block option at the position." CEH is expected to handle the majority of the carries out of the Chiefs' backfield, but Williams will play a key role Week 1. Edwards-Helaire is currently seventh among all running backs in the latest expert consensus rankings
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Stay tune to this.....
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2020/9/5/21424158/with-release-of-deandre-washington-chiefs-down-to-three-running-backs

The Chiefs have informed RB DeAndre Washington of his release, per source.
Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson are now projected back-ups to Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

.....With the earlier release of Elijah McGuire, this leaves the team with just three running backs — Edwards-Helaire, Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson. That’s fewer than the Chiefs have historically tended to keep on their active roster; as we saw as recently as last season, NFL running backs frequently miss time with injuries.

Could this mean the Chiefs could be in the market for a veteran running back? As we noted in Saturday morning’s Arrowheadlines, some believe that recently-released Washington Football Team running back Adrian Peterson could be a fit for the Chiefs. On Saturday, the New England Patriots released running back Lamar Miller. Those are just two of the players the Chiefs could be considering.

But it’s also possible that the Chiefs intend to bring Washington back on the expanded practice squad. Under the 2020 coronavirus rules, they will be allowed to keep as many as six practice-squad players with any level of NFL experience — and on a week-by-week basis, protect four practice-squad players from being poached. It’s not hard to imagine the Chiefs could bolster their running back depth with such a move — provided that Washington isn’t quickly signed to another team’s active roster.

 
Darrel Williams (hamstring) is practicing in full for Week 1 against the Texans.

Williams will be out there Thursday night for the opener and is believed to be the Chiefs' No. 2 back coming out of camp. He's expected to see action alongside Clyde Edwards-Helaire, as Williams is viewed as the team's top pass-blocking back. He could see a handful of touches with an outside shot at more.

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Don’t think his dynasty value can be too high as he is probably a rbbc guy. I suppose whatever Jordan Howard’s value is he can be there. 

 
JoeSteeler said:
Any thoughts on him in dynasty...2021...2022 and beyond? He is a RFA after this season looks like.
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It is all about opportunity.  If Williams excels this season and if he can parlay that into a starting gig somewhere next season, I see no reason he cannot produce.  We saw Spencer Ware do it, and I think Darrel Williams compares favorably to Ware.  We saw Damien Williams do it.  We saw Michael Turner do it.  There are many examples out there.  However, there are a lot of "ifs" in that scenario, and there are not a lot of starting gigs on the horizon.

 
socrates said:
It is all about opportunity.  If Williams excels this season and if he can parlay that into a starting gig somewhere next season, I see no reason he cannot produce.  We saw Spencer Ware do it, and I think Darrel Williams compares favorably to Ware.  We saw Damien Williams do it.  We saw Michael Turner do it.  There are many examples out there.  However, there are a lot of "ifs" in that scenario, and there are not a lot of starting gigs on the horizon.
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Michael Turner is a huge exception. I used to chase around “next Michael Turners” until I realized I was chasing the dragon. It just doesn’t happen. Players with pedigree (former 1st rounders) have more likelihood of getting the chances to have a productive season in the league later on (Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson).

 
Darwin Thompson, is he pretty worthless in fantasy? Even if there is an injury to Williams or CEH, would they bring in another back?

 
Iceman03 said:
Michael Turner is a huge exception. I used to chase around “next Michael Turners” until I realized I was chasing the dragon. It just doesn’t happen. Players with pedigree (former 1st rounders) have more likelihood of getting the chances to have a productive season in the league later on (Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson).
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Granted, it is difficult to go from journeyman to starter.  You nailed part of the problem on the head.  There are plenty of applicants and not enough suitors, so a player with a pedigree is often valued above someone like Darrel Williams.  However, we have seen many backs without an early-round pedigree excel.  Seattle has churned out quality runners who lack draft capital, including Spencer Ware, Thomas Rawls, and Chris Carson.  Kansas City has had success with Ware and Damien Williams.  Austin Ekeler was undrafted.  Phillip Lindsay was undrafted.  Teams are seeking to replicate Andy Reid's success, so if Darrel Williams showcases his skills and produces a quality season (which he is likely to do in the KC offense IF he gets enough touches), then it is foreseeable that Williams could turn that success into a big free agent deal and a starting job somewhere.  Is it likely?  No, but it is not out of the range of possibilities.  

 
SoBeDad said:
Darwin Thompson, is he pretty worthless in fantasy? Even if there is an injury to Williams or CEH, would they bring in another back?
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I think Andy Reid would look within first, and having any potential piece of the KC offense has some value.  Darwin Thomson is one injury away from a meaningful role, and he may have some value even without an injury to either CEH or Williams.

 
Darrel Williams rushed seven times for 23 yards and caught both of his targets for seven yards in the Chiefs' Week 1 win over the Texans.

Rumored to be "splitting" work with rookie Clyde Edwards-Helaire, it was pretty evident Williams wasn't a factor on early downs. He entered on some third downs for his pass-blocking prowess and did nothing with his nine touches. CEH, on the other hand, lit it up with a 25-138-1 rushing line. CEH widened the gap even further with his performance. Williams is nothing more than fantasy insurance should CEH go down.

- Rotoworld
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Williams was mediocre tonight, and certainly paled in comparison to CEH, but I'm still thinking of picking him up off waivers to protect my CEH pick.  I would have to drop Chase Edmonds, who I like better than Darrell, but clearly DW is trusted by KC.

 
He has straight line speed and was great on a few downfield passes last year. He's not gonna make people miss, like CEH. I'm beginning to think he won't be #1 in KC even if CEH were to miss time.

 
SoBeDad said:
He has straight line speed and was great on a few downfield passes last year. He's not gonna make people miss, like CEH. I'm beginning to think he won't be #1 in KC even if CEH were to miss time.
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Who would be - Darwin Thompson or someone not on the roster now? I think they’re only carrying 3 backs and a fullback, Sherman.

 
I thought Darrel looked good last night in limited action. I would say his price went up to a 2nd now that it is confirmed on the field he is the #2.

 
Darrel Williams (ankle) was "limited" in Thursday's practice.

It puts Williams on track to suit up for Monday night's game against the Ravens after he departed last Sunday's win over the Chargers. Williams is a distant No. 2 behind Clyde Edwards-Helaire on the depth chart, but he could receive a goal-line look or two in Baltimore after CEH struggled in the role in Week 1. It's also possible Williams splits snaps with Darwin Thompson behind CEH. 

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