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RB Darrel Williams - Arizona (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You gotta be happy but the fumble is cause for concern.
You gotta believe this kid is being groomed for more touches. Maybe the other Williams comes back but perhaps McCoy is iffy at that point...there is room for a solid RB2 on this roster that is a better option to gain yds and also is much younger than the other guy...this is best case scenario for owners minus the fumble.
You gotta believe this kid is being groomed for more touches. Maybe the other Williams comes back but perhaps McCoy is iffy at that point...there is room for a solid RB2 on this roster that is a better option to gain yds and also is much younger than the other guy...this is best case scenario for owners minus the fumble.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
He's carried the ball 8 times for 13 yards...he's just a big back. Claiming his stakes to be the vulture if nothing else.
Doug B
Footballguy
Touches ended up being 13 for McCoy, 11 for Darrel W. Not sure of snap counts.
A little worried about Darrel's 8 carries for 13 yards. Did several short-yardage attempts skew his average, or was he getting stoned? Not that 8 carries is much of a sample size, but still.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He’s trusted enough to be in that late is telling IMO. I didn’t watch the whole game but it seemed like he was on for a lot of the snaps as well.
belljr
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
It does, but one catch was for like 30 yards, right?
Huge game fantasy wise, which for those that started him, we will all take. Just what we needed.
I don't know, however, if we cleared anything up about this backfield.
Yes, Darell had the trust to be used late on that critical TD down low late in the game. He also had a fumble and was not productive with his running.
Had a chance to cement a role but didn't exactly do it.
Love that he put some fantasy points up, but without what feels like a statement game today, have a feeling Darell is just an injury stash going forward.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
One thing is for sure if nothing else, KC trusts DDub.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Sure, that he's trusted. Not sure I see that clearly translating into a role. (ETA and by role, I mean having a solid split with Shady going forward).
I'm excited as everyone about his points today. I don't see how this means anything about what it may mean for Darell going forward, do you?
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It would have been cause for concern if he was benched after the fumble... the fact that his involvement went up AFTER the fumble says a lot.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
He's the passing game back on the best offense in the league.
Wow. Damien 2.0? More valuable than Damien was?
Wow. Damien 2.0? More valuable than Damien was?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Tremendous catch.Guy is so impressive. He runs to his size. Damien doesn't. And that's the huge difference between the two.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I don't think so. I think Darrel was used as the passing down/two minute drill RB all game. McCoy is the pure runner?
Yeah while I’m on the side that Darrel could be great some of you are jumping the gun. He didn’t do much with yardage and it is a murky situation still. In bestball he would be great, still wouldn’t surprise me if he has some bad games without much usage or like some have pointed out a Mahomes passing TD in the red zone instead of a couple rushing TDs
sho nuff
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
To be clear I'm asking rather than stating that - but I'd say because Damien is a 27 year old retread, and Darrel is a 24 year old with more perceived potential?
sportsphysio
Footballguy
If I remember correctly, he had 3 carries inside the 5, and there was one play around their own 30 that was blown up in the backfield, didn’t have a chance.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Mario Wario
Footballguy
So, are we looking at a McCoy+Darrel combo or nah? It sure felt like McCoy has it. Btw, as someone mentioned above, was McCoy hurt?
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Should be = Special teamer (if McCoy&Darrel Williams healthy)
What will happen = Who knows
If he's not strictly a special teamer, IMO they're wasting a 53 roster spot on him. (I'd IR him before Darrel cedes any snaps to him).
Own all 3. Darrel is leagues ahead of Damien in every facet. Go watch that bullet (alluded to above) he caught and tell me Damien''s better receiver
. Damien can have ST value so that's legitimately the only reason I wouldn't IR him. Can always bring him back down road if injuries strike.I didn't see any McCoy injury. Darrel appears to be the receiving back (deservedly so IMO). Great sign Reid shows that much confidence in him.
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jm192
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The McCoy or Damien owner. Damien had an ADP of RB-15 during the preseason. McCoy was around 40. The Damien owner might give up more.
Maybe wait and see Damien's status this week.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
leftcoastheel
Footballguy
Dude you should drop him and Carson and move on to the better options in your league.
Seriously, yes. The guy fumbled, I was super worried. Posted on this thread in fact. They went back to him when the game is on the line. So... if you don't see how that bodes well not sure what to say. As was pointed by others: they trust him.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
choo choo
socrates
Footballguy
Darrel Williams' 2-TD game salvaged what was otherwise a disappointing performance. The fumble was not the result of poor ball security, however. It was simply a good defensive play, and Reid demonstrated he had lost no confidence in Darrel Williams by relying on him when the game was on the line. (On a side note, Shady has been flirting with disaster with how he carries the ball.). Darrel Williams put up a paltry 13 yards on only 8 carries. Most of that is attributable to multiple short yardage attempts (including 2 short rushing TDs), but it is concerning that Darrel Williams was not more involved in the running game today. In fairness, Matt Patricia had his defense dialed in today, frustrating the Chiefs attack, and the Chiefs offense never seemed to find a rhythm, but on a day Mahomes under-performed, Reid seemed unwilling to trust his running game (Shady had only 11 carries and Darwin never saw the field). Darrel Williams had a nice 30yard reception, but his role overlaps with Damien Williams' strengths, and Darrel Williams did little to distinguish himself today.
rockaction
Footballguy
Jesus, this guy, for all the guys you call JAG, is the biggest jagbag of grab bags. I'm just gonna call this guy bag from now on.
8 for 13 to Shady's 11 for 56.
He did replace him late. If anyone can tell me what that means, I'll certainly listen.
Hoo baby, this is funny.
8 for 13 to Shady's 11 for 56.
He did replace him late. If anyone can tell me what that means, I'll certainly listen.
Hoo baby, this is funny.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
There's a difference between him being trusted -- and I agree him getting the ball after he fumbled is a great sign -- and securing a dependable role.
Does he deserve one? Hell yes, I think so -- and ardently hope so given that I could use him.
But can you say that when this entire backfield is healthy, it's clear that Darell is going to continue to have the role he had today? If so, to what degree of confidence?
That was my only point.
IIRC, Ivory was the money back in Buffalo. I think one of the Williams will be the GL/short yardage back when they want the option of powering it in.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, Chris Ivory was a really good short yardage back and Shady's running style is conducive to losses on the goal line.
But I was more kidding about Darrel not looking anything like this thread said he did last week.
Woof.
socrates
Footballguy
It is interesting how Darrel Williams put up roughly the same numbers as Todd Gurley today, yet the perception is so different: Darrel Williams is the toast of those who picked him up, and Todd Gurley is simply toast.
rockaction
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
So far this season, I've missed out on every single waiver wire darling -- good ones and bad ones. But DAMMIT I am holding on to this kid and not letting go!!
rockaction
Footballguy
I think this is a pretty universal sentiment of people on the board. I wish it were not so, but holding a bench space seems imperative if you've got one of the three. DT not so much.
Just the fact that these three should be universally rostered tells you that Darwin should also be rostered. Crazy #### can happen in an 8-10 week span in the NFL. I mean if The Williams brothers and a 40 year old Shady McCoy should be universally rostered then why wouldn’t the drafted rookie (who clearly needs more time).
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rockaction
Footballguy
Sometimes you need to look at the cost of roster spots in finding a way through byes and the dynamism of which you speak. Holding three or four spots in shorter bench leagues for running backs can be really counterproductive. I usually roll with bare essentials -- like no backup QB, and even I can't afford the extra spots for all those guys. Eventually, you pick your elixir and go with what your eyes tell you about the talent and situation. Right now, IMHO, Shady looks like the best back by far there. I'm holding McCoy and Darrel Williams in my main league (some guy drafted Damien early second in that one...eesh.)
leftcoastheel
Footballguy
Great game today. Damien is NOT a long term solution. McCoy will put up points as long as he's healthy - we will see how long it lasts.
Happy to flex this kid until Damien gets back... we will see how that goes... then maybe after.
Upside is he evolves into the starter in KC, although that is unlikely. Writing is on the all that a) Damien and McCoy are not long for the game, b) KC NEEDS a RB and it is SUPER high powered offense and c) D.W. is doing what a lot of has hoped D.T. would have done - capitalize.
Again, good flex for now. We will see what happens over next several games.
Happy to flex this kid until Damien gets back... we will see how that goes... then maybe after.
Upside is he evolves into the starter in KC, although that is unlikely. Writing is on the all that a) Damien and McCoy are not long for the game, b) KC NEEDS a RB and it is SUPER high powered offense and c) D.W. is doing what a lot of has hoped D.T. would have done - capitalize.
Again, good flex for now. We will see what happens over next several games.
