RB De’Von Achane, MIA (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Jacob Gibbs
Devon Achane avoided more tackles (9) in Week 3 than these backs have in three games:

8 - Jahmyr Gibbs, Rhamondre Stevenson
7 - Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Dameon Pierce
6 - Tony Pollard
5 - Derrick Henry

https://twitter.com/jagibbs_23/status/1706346899182379273?s=21

 

[Faust]

Jacob Gibbs
Devon Achane is nuts. This play resulted in a TD.

It got called back (Achane scored later on the drive). But the fact that he can burst through this and get the angle on 22 at the top is insane.

https://twitter.com/jagibbs_23/status/1706344341722284077?s=21

 

[GPS]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What happens when everyone plays him next week and he comes up let's say a little underwhelming?

 

[greedygoat]

He'll be in 100% of my lineups moving forward. I will find a way to break the news to Jahan Dotson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

What happens when everyone plays him next week and he comes up let's say a little underwhelming?

I just said it - people will bench him again. Then he’ll blow up again.

 

[Banger]

What happens when everyone plays him next week and he comes up let's say a little underwhelming?

I fully expect this to be a floor going forward except for the odd game here or there...

 

[GPS]

What happens when everyone plays him next week and he comes up let's say a little underwhelming?

That's a good question and it very well could work out that way. Only time will tell. We'll just need to ride it out and see.

But there are other pertinent questions outside of a vaccuum. What does a flex average in a typical 12 team .5ppr league? How many have this kid's skills/situation/week winning upside? I rolled out Gus this week and felt pretty good about it.

 

[satch]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

If so, it will be important for Achane managers to remember that’s about what Bijan and Gibbs did in week 3. Every week won’t be awesome.

 

[dipandglide]

It'll be interesting to see what the trades look like this week

 

[efactor]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

It’s pretty hard to read into a 70-20 game.

Technically McD pulled many of his starters, right?

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

 

[3 hour lunch]

I’d imagine anyone with Achane and Nucua must be nearly physically aroused at this point?

I think the important thing is that he’s earned touches indefinitely. In todays RB landscape that’s valuable on its own. I still think he’s far from an auto-start, depending on your roster and lineup requirements. As a Mostert owner I’ll probably blow all my FA money on him. The stats against the Denver Jogging Horses are a little misleading but the usage is exciting.

 

[efactor]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

It’s pretty hard to read into a 70-20 game.

Technically McD pulled many of his starters, right?

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

He was playing early. Not like all the production was in garbage time.

McDaniel made it clear that he was really excited to have Achane and I can't see him putting him back in mothballs. I mean McDaniel isn't dumb like Sean Payton who will probably keep Mims playing 20 snaps a game until he can "trust" him.

 

[efactor]

I’d imagine anyone with Achane and Nucua must be nearly physically aroused at this point?

Yes, I am

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

It’s pretty hard to read into a 70-20 game.

Technically McD pulled many of his starters, right?

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

He was playing early. Not like all the production was in garbage time.

McDaniel made it clear that he was really excited to have Achane and I can't see him putting him back in mothballs. I mean McDaniel isn't dumb like Sean Payton who will probably keep Mims playing 20 snaps a game until he can "trust" him.

Don’t disagree. But Achane also isn’t built like a feature back, so is McDaniels going to run him into the ground or use him on gadget plays while Mostert absorbs the heavy lifting?

It’s a hard situation to get a read on. If anyone knows about RB injuries it’s McD.

 

[menobrown]

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

I think I see it like you do and I do own him a few places.

Everyone got off for Miami. Everyone.

I believe I heard Achane was on average not touched until he was 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. That's not going to be normal.

 

[efactor]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

It’s pretty hard to read into a 70-20 game.

Technically McD pulled many of his starters, right?

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

He was playing early. Not like all the production was in garbage time.

McDaniel made it clear that he was really excited to have Achane and I can't see him putting him back in mothballs. I mean McDaniel isn't dumb like Sean Payton who will probably keep Mims playing 20 snaps a game until he can "trust" him.

Don’t disagree. But Achane also isn’t built like a feature back, so is McDaniels going to run him into the ground or use him on gadget plays while Mostert absorbs the heavy lifting?

It’s a hard situation to get a read on. If anyone knows about RB injuries it’s McD.

Agree he isn't going to put Mostert on the bench, but from what I saw, he's much more than a "gadget" player, or at least my definition of a gadget player. I was impressed the way he ran tough inside. Granted a little small to do that all game, but as part of a timeshare with Mostert, I don't think he will be automatically pulled at the goal line if he is in the game.

For us owners that are challenged at 2nd RB, it's pretty exciting to have someone who can get you 12 plus PPR points consistently and has the capability of a big game.

 

[Biabreakable]

OK this thread convinced me to take him off waivers Saturday. Glad I did. Wish I'd started him. In any case wondering how people view going forward. Is he a 50/50 split with Mossert? When Wilson returns a RBBC? Wondering how high people think his position is now. Better than Montgomery with the Lions when he returns?

Thanks for talking me ONTO the ledge and taking Achane before Sunday. No chance I would have been first in WW and got him now.

With a performance like that it's going to be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. He EARNED touches and showed incredible explosiveness. A timeshare/split would make perfect sense from Miami's perspective...both guys are explosive and keeping them fresh and rotating makes it nightmare for defenses along with probably the top WR tandem in the NFL. The speed of the offense is incredible and keeping that constant pressure on a defense seems logical to me.

They looked especially dangerous with both on the field. McDaniel looks very much the part of an offensive genius and the speed on this team is simply outrageous.

I remember what the greatest show on turf looked like, and Miami is the first time I've seen a team that reminds me of that type of speed and explosiveness. If Miami can stay healthy, they might give the '99-'01 Rams a run for their money.

Achane's emergence is good for Miami and it's good for Mostert and let's not forget, Waddle wasn't even on the field. This offense is ridiculous.

I loved what I saw them do with both on the field.

We hear a lot of coaches talk about doing this with their RBs. This coach actually did it.

 

[SoBeDad]

Agree he isn't going to put Mostert on the bench, but from what I saw, he's much more than a "gadget" player, or at least my definition of a gadget player. I was impressed the way he ran tough inside. Granted a little small to do that all game, but as part of a timeshare with Mostert, I don't think he will be automatically pulled at the goal line if he is in the game.

Achane had 16+ carries in 9 of 10 games in his last year in college. 20, 25, and 36 carries in SEC games vs SC, Ole MIS, and LSU. A lot of those carries were between the tackles. Coach McDaniel used both Achane and Mostert near the GL on some plays, Achane also had solo chances inside the 10. His high school receiving video as a WR is impressive, as is this wheel route catch versus Alabama at the1:20 mark.

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[travdogg]

Agree he isn't going to put Mostert on the bench, but from what I saw, he's much more than a "gadget" player, or at least my definition of a gadget player. I was impressed the way he ran tough inside. Granted a little small to do that all game, but as part of a timeshare with Mostert, I don't think he will be automatically pulled at the goal line if he is in the game.

Achane had 16+ carries in 9 of 10 games in his last year in college. 20, 25, and 36 carries in SEC games vs SC, Ole MIS, and LSU. A lot of those carries were between the tackles. Coach McDaniel used both Achane and Mostert near the GL on some plays, Achane also had solo chances inside the 10. His high school receiving video as a WR is impressive, as is this wheel route catch versus Alabama at the1:20 mark.

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Achane is basically the same size, actually slightly bigger, as Warrick Dunn, who averaged over 250 touches per season.

 

[metoo]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

Oh yeah he’s going to be in 100% of lineups (he was on the bench in all 8 of my leagues this week, I have zero shares)

But that’s the trap. You just can’t bench a dude capable of weeks like this.

And it’s extremely likely he’ll disappoint. And end up benched again. Only to blow up the bench. Again.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Owners should be hoping for ~half that production next week. If that comes to pass his trade value will never be higher.

I just don't see McDaniel giving less than 12 touches weekly to Achane moving forward. Why would he? Granted, Denver run D is bad but man, he is so explosive and can run inside. Not like he's just a gadget player. God forbid if Mostert gets dinged up at some point.

But I'm really excited because I don't have to start Dalvin Cook or AJ Dillon moving forward as RB 2, so 12 or so touches from Achane a week is a huge upgrade

It’s pretty hard to read into a 70-20 game.

Technically McD pulled many of his starters, right?

12 doesn’t seem like much. But it might be less than that. Or it might be more.

Just impossible to know since that game defines “outlier”.

He was playing early. Not like all the production was in garbage time.

McDaniel made it clear that he was really excited to have Achane and I can't see him putting him back in mothballs. I mean McDaniel isn't dumb like Sean Payton who will probably keep Mims playing 20 snaps a game until he can "trust" him.

By the time some of the guys around here come around Achane will have retired. He's a must start.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

 

[efactor]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

I don't think anyone who has Achane expects another 50 point game, but I see a lot of 15-20 point games in his future. Works for me

 

[DocHolliday]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

That performance isn’t likely to happen again but the kid looks fantastic and will get a good amount of touches every week. It’s obvious he is a very good RB that has speed few can match.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Some of you really need to watch the game. The stats were eye popping. This performance was more than likely Achane's ceiling. Miami scored at historic rates, something that's not likely to be repeated this season.

That said, any rational human that watched that game is excited about much more than just the box score. Achane was worked in early and often here. He showed exactly what we were told he showed the entire off-season. He gashed the Broncos long before they laid down, and was likely one of the major reasons they did. He was putting video game stats up EARLY and looked every bit the part of an elite NFL running back. He can run around defenders, run past defenders, and even run through their tackles. He's special, and I don't care if it was one game, I know what I saw and I trust my eyes.

I remember when Chris Johnson burst onto the scene. No one really believed it was possible, he split with Lendale. So much was said about his inability to carry the load. He was fast but didn't run with power. He was a track star in the combine, he's not an NFL running back. He's a gadget player that won't hold up. He did it against lesser competition in college, and there are other good backs on the roster. He'll never hold up, his frame is too small. He doesn't fit the mold, he can't succeed.

It's all eerily similar. Is there hype here? Yes, a lot, but c'mon. It's warranted!

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

I don't think anyone who has Achane expects another 50 point game, but I see a lot of 15-20 point games in his future. Works for me

I see a lot of people in this thread upset with themselves for not rostering this guy lol. The hate is real. There are ups and downs in the NFL. Achane will have his fair share of bad games, he'll also have more great ones. Talent wins. He's the perfect high ceiling RB2 I'm always searching for.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

 

[FarFromHome]

He has a Matt Asiata feel about him.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

He has Matt Asiata feel about him.

The 230 pound plodder that ran a 4.77 40 and didn't even get drafted? Great comp.

 

[FarFromHome]

He has Matt Asiata feel about him.

The 230 pound plodder that ran a 4.77 40 and didn't even get drafted? Great comp.

You don't see it?

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

What's hard to believe? 3rd round pick the coaches LOVE with elite speed, elite rushing and elite receiving skills that just proved his abilities translate against NFL defenders. The guy was cheap to free in most non-dynasty leagues and he just proved his ceiling is as high as anyone else in the league on any given Sunday. Not even the most bullish Achane buyers think another game anywhere close to what he just did is going to happen again this season, but it doesn't have to for him to push for RB1 FF status.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

He has Matt Asiata feel about him.

The 230 pound plodder that ran a 4.77 40 and didn't even get drafted? Great comp.

You don't see it?

I don't post here as much as most, but I do SEE more trolling than I ever remember. What's the point of your post?

 

[MCFootball123]

I've never understood comments like "this is Achanes ceiling, not his floor".

Umm 51 points is the ceiling for ANYONE - including the most elite fantasy players of all time...

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

That performance isn’t likely to happen again but the kid looks fantastic and will get a good amount of touches every week. It’s obvious he is a very good RB that has speed few can match.

You know how they show highlights of college rbs before the draft, running freely thru bad college defenses? Every rb looks like a monster in those. That's the fear I'd have about Achane from Sunday. That's all.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

What's hard to believe? 3rd round pick the coaches LOVE with elite speed, elite rushing and elite receiving skills that just proved his abilities translate against NFL defenders. The guy was cheap to free in most non-dynasty leagues and he just proved his ceiling is as high as anyone else in the league on any given Sunday. Not even the most bullish Achane buyers think another game anywhere close to what he just did is going to happen again this season, but it doesn't have to for him to push for RB1 FF status.

Where do people think Achane ends up in FF RBs this year? Top 20? Top 40?

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Let's be real here, the Broncos completely laid down in the south Florida heat. They didn't want to chase those small fast guys and laid down. Pathetic performance that will not happen again.

I don't think anyone who has Achane expects another 50 point game, but I see a lot of 15-20 point games in his future. Works for me

I see a lot of people in this thread upset with themselves for not rostering this guy lol. The hate is real. There are ups and downs in the NFL. Achane will have his fair share of bad games, he'll also have more great ones. Talent wins. He's the perfect high ceiling RB2 I'm always searching for.

Where you ranking him rest of season?

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Based on what I saw from him, I have to say easily top 24. Based on other factors including Mostert's history and age as well as the offense Achane plays in, I believe he has a real shot to push for RB1 (1-12) status this season and that's with or without Mostert getting carries. Achane was playing in the red zone, early. That's huge news for his stock. Denver's defense is bad, sure, but this offense is pick your poison and everyone is going to struggle with it. You wanna give Hill and Waddle room to roam or a light box to Mostert and Achane? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

What's hard to believe? 3rd round pick the coaches LOVE with elite speed, elite rushing and elite receiving skills that just proved his abilities translate against NFL defenders. The guy was cheap to free in most non-dynasty leagues and he just proved his ceiling is as high as anyone else in the league on any given Sunday. Not even the most bullish Achane buyers think another game anywhere close to what he just did is going to happen again this season, but it doesn't have to for him to push for RB1 FF status.

Where do people think Achane ends up in FF RBs this year? Top 20? Top 40?

 

[da_budman]

I hate to be that guy to throw cold water on the subject but can we temper expectations just a bit? First Mostert had a very good game playing in front of him. Second we are talking about a guy who was a scratch week 1 and barely played week 2. Third I am in a wheelchair and think I could have gained yardage on that defense. That was the most epic display of horrible defense I think Ive ever seen. And 4th anybody ever EVER seen a defense give up 102 points to runningbacks on a team in 1/2 point ppr before? I dont think it has ever happened and doubt it ever will again. The defense gave up 70 points for a reason... they were awful and quickly gave up. Look I am not saying this kid isnt good but will he ever get 18 carries again at his size without injuries? Not likely. Was it impressive? ABSOLUTELY. does it mean he is rosterable? sure...absolutely. NOBODY thinks he will repeat that performance but has he earned enough of the action to be playable? Time will tell.

I don’t think you’re saying anything we’re all not already thinking. It’s okay to be excited and realistic at the same time.

I don’t think anyone expects Achane to ever repeat this performance. I said earlier this was very likely the best game of his career, which is weird but probably true. And everything you said was also true, this was a perfect storm for Achane.

All of that said, Mike McDaniel was super excited to draft Achane because of how his skill set fits the offense and yesterday did happen. We have no choice but to react fantasy-wise. You say we should temper expectations. Okay, then I ask you, what do realistic expectations look like for Achane? Where would you rank him dynasty-wise? Would be nice to get an actual list, as I’m genuinely curious what tempered expectations look like.

As an excited Achane owner who also loves to trade, I’m admittedly conflicted.

Oh in dynasty he would have to be MUCH more valuable. I just think a few things are in play here that limit his value THIS YEAR. First all these extra targets for both him and mostert, where do they come from once Waddle comes back probably this week? Once Wilson comes back how does that play into the carries? (I likely think Wilson is probably the odd man out here unless or until Mostert or Achane gets injured but there is a much more than zero chance he devalues both of them). I will say this after watching Waldmans breakdowns of some of those plays I am more excited about Achane than I was when I made the initial comments because he was schemed very very well. I guess if I had to look at the plusses they would be the kid is electric and if he can carve out more than a change of pace role when the team is at full strength then he will be a valuable player to have even in redraft but the downsize is he is very small and you dont often see players his size more than a change of pace back, he did this against the worst defensive effort I have ever seen in my life and with 2 key members of the offense out. As an Achane owner I would certainly be testing the trade value in trading leagues but now way no how do I trade him cheap. In dynasty he should be much much more valuable but like you, I am a trader. I have a really good team with some top notch players (redraft) and every single one of them are up for trade depending on the deal. The problem I always run into with the league mates I have is they simply arent willing to part with their really good players even if the trade favors them as well. As a result I make 1 or 2 trades a year usually involving minor players.

 

[massraider]

What happens when everyone plays him next week and he comes up let's say a little underwhelming?

Frisman Jackson has entered the chat

 

[da_budman]

Based on what I saw from him, I have to say easily top 24. Based on other factors including Mostert's history and age as well as the offense Achane plays in, I believe he has a real shot to push for RB1 (1-12) status this season and that's with or without Mostert getting carries. Achane was playing in the red zone, early. That's huge news for his stock. Denver's defense is bad, sure, but this offense is pick your poison and everyone is going to struggle with it. You wanna give Hill and Waddle room to roam or a light box to Mostert and Achane? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

What's hard to believe? 3rd round pick the coaches LOVE with elite speed, elite rushing and elite receiving skills that just proved his abilities translate against NFL defenders. The guy was cheap to free in most non-dynasty leagues and he just proved his ceiling is as high as anyone else in the league on any given Sunday. Not even the most bullish Achane buyers think another game anywhere close to what he just did is going to happen again this season, but it doesn't have to for him to push for RB1 FF status.

Where do people think Achane ends up in FF RBs this year? Top 20? Top 40?

Reguardless of where you rank Achane ros...... or any of the other dolphins for that matter? All I know is I want a part of what seems to be the best offense in the league this year. I heard the other day that the perfect lineup this past week contained FOUR dolphins. That is almost staistically impossible...yet it happened.

 

[da_budman]

Now everyone gonna put Achane in their lineup and get 6.4 points from him.

The most likely outcome. Not to say Achane isn’t good or will be bust…but…one game does not a season make.

How many people think Achane will finish the season as a Top 20 RB?

The way I look at it, he will have a role moving forward. What that will be exactly remains to be seen. And while a repeat performance is clearly out of the realm, even if he gets <half the touches and is <half as efficient with them that could still be a spike week. Not sure I'd want him riding my bench anymore given the possibilities alone.

This KIND OF reminds me of what I saw from Breece Hall week( remember I said kind of lol) 1 sitting on my bench. I started him week 2 thinking even if he was still limited in touches he would still do well with those limited touches. 2 duds later I am in wait and see mode lol I think Achane will be a part of the running game moving forward. I know if I was an owner I would be chomping at the bit how big.

 

[massraider]

Denver Broncos not getting enough credit here.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Based on what I saw from him, I have to say easily top 24. Based on other factors including Mostert's history and age as well as the offense Achane plays in, I believe he has a real shot to push for RB1 (1-12) status this season and that's with or without Mostert getting carries. Achane was playing in the red zone, early. That's huge news for his stock. Denver's defense is bad, sure, but this offense is pick your poison and everyone is going to struggle with it. You wanna give Hill and Waddle room to roam or a light box to Mostert and Achane? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The hype for Achane seems sky high. I do like his potential and he had a great game Sunday which should get people excited. BUT it’s hard to believe he’s a league winner at the moment.

What's hard to believe? 3rd round pick the coaches LOVE with elite speed, elite rushing and elite receiving skills that just proved his abilities translate against NFL defenders. The guy was cheap to free in most non-dynasty leagues and he just proved his ceiling is as high as anyone else in the league on any given Sunday. Not even the most bullish Achane buyers think another game anywhere close to what he just did is going to happen again this season, but it doesn't have to for him to push for RB1 FF status.

Where do people think Achane ends up in FF RBs this year? Top 20? Top 40?

Reguardless of where you rank Achane ros...... or any of the other dolphins for that matter? All I know is I want a part of what seems to be the best offense in the league this year. I heard the other day that the perfect lineup this past week contained FOUR dolphins. That is almost staistically impossible...yet it happened.

Yes, regardless. Man people still think Achane is some gadget player, he's not. Watch his college tape. Watch his usage last week.

I've gone and compared this offense to the 99-01 Rams, and I believe the comparison is warranted. I see no reason why this offense can't support two #1 WRs and two #1/#2 RBs.

No rational human expects an offensive explosion like week 3 again, the odds are against it, but I expect the Dolphins to finish the season as the #1 offense in football and I don't really think that prediction is some sort of unrealistic hot take.

The greatest show on turf was all about Holt, Bruce, Faulk and Hakim/Proehl, and I see no reason why Hill/Waddle can't match what Holt/Bruce did while Faulk and the #3 WR's production can be split if not improved upon by Mostert/Achane.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I heard the other day that the perfect lineup this past week contained FOUR dolphins. That is almost staistically impossible...yet it happened.

Let’s not confuse possibility-impossibility with likelihood. You are referring to the likelihood.

I’ve never sat at a poker table that had a bad beat jackpot awarded despite logging many hours in a casino. Yet I’ve seen it happen at other tables plenty. It’s not likely to happen on any given hand but it’s statistically possible on any given hand. That’s a big difference.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Denver Broncos not getting enough credit here.

Everyone in here has mentioned the Broncos epic fail, they quit, but they didn't arrive the same way they left, BROKEN. They had some fight in them to start the game but the Dolphins ran over them. They were beaten into submission and Achane was most certainly a part of that. I feel like a lot of posters in this thread didn't watch the game in its entirety. Even with the way the Dolphins stormed the field, the game likely would have been closer if Sutton didn't get a severe case of butter fingers at the most inopportune times, but the important part to me at least in regards to Achane was his early usage AND production while the outcome was still unknown.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Denver Broncos not getting enough credit here.

This

 

[FarFromHome]

He has Matt Asiata feel about him.

The 230 pound plodder that ran a 4.77 40 and didn't even get drafted? Great comp.

You don't see it?

I don't post here as much as most, but I do SEE more trolling than I ever remember. What's the point of your post?

Well. I'm old. I've been an active member to fantasy football message boards for decades. I will say that not all are the same. Some are super strict. Some are super aggressive. Some are quite volatile. I found this one quite refreshing. Open opinions. Open ideas. If you think it has too many trolls you need to get out more. Ha ha. My point was just being silly. Dude just hit 200 yards at an 11 yard a carry clip displaying blazing speed. Who is the slowest plodding rb you can think of? Mine was Asiata. It was a joke. Obviously a bad joke to you. My bad. You called me a troll? Hilarious. My intention was being silly in the narrative conversation of a player thread. I apologize to you and also the Asiata family.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

He has Matt Asiata feel about him.

The 230 pound plodder that ran a 4.77 40 and didn't even get drafted? Great comp.

You don't see it?

I don't post here as much as most, but I do SEE more trolling than I ever remember. What's the point of your post?

Well. I'm old. I've been an active member to fantasy football message boards for decades. I will say that not all are the same. Some are super strict. Some are super aggressive. Some are quite volatile. I found this one quite refreshing. Open opinions. Open ideas. If you think it has too many trolls you need to get out more. Ha ha. My point was just being silly. Dude just hit 200 yards at an 11 yard a carry clip displaying blazing speed. Who is the slowest plodding rb you can think of? Mine was Asiata. It was a joke. Obviously a bad joke to you. My bad. You called me a troll? Hilarious. My intention was being silly in the narrative conversation of a player thread. I apologize to you and also the Asiata family.

What value does such a stupid comment add to the forum? Get your jollies elsewhere. No one laughed, and TBH, all it does is spark up a side discussion like the one we're having. Again, what's the point?