RB Derrick Henry, BAL (1 Viewer)

[Intston]

Is he cooked well-done for Dynasty purposes or will he rumble like last season once Lamar is back? I am considering sending a mid young RB (Charbs, Warren or Mason) for him

 

[Guss]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

 

[kyoun1e]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

 

[Grahamburn]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

 

[kyoun1e]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

I hear you.

In one league, the owner of Henry is the classic always make a trade offer of two mediocre guys for your best guy.

And he's declining everything in sight on Henry.

 

[Skolpnw]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

What's their record?

I think anyone who can afford to hold on Henry should; after his bye I'm expecting him to be a set-and-forget RB1.

If someone needs wins immediately (e.g. 0-5 or 1-4) then selling would be reasonable. I still wouldn't want to give him away though. To play devil's advocate on your Pickens/Chubb offer, Chubb is on BYE this week / ranked outside top 40 RBs by ECR. Pickens had 4 targets and 2 catches last week (albeit one was a long TD) and has CD returning as early as next week. If I were selling I'd want a better package.

That said, someone earlier in the thread said they declined sending Pickens 1:1 for Henry (as they needed wins now) so maybe they are just stubborn!

 

[kyoun1e]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

What's their record?

I think anyone who can afford to hold on Henry should; after his bye I'm expecting him to be a set-and-forget RB1.

If someone needs wins immediately (e.g. 0-5 or 1-4) then selling would be reasonable. I still wouldn't want to give him away though. To play devil's advocate on your Pickens/Chubb offer, Chubb is on BYE this week / ranked outside top 40 RBs by ECR. Pickens had 4 targets and 2 catches last week (albeit one was a long TD) and has CD returning as early as next week. If I were selling I'd want a better package.

That said, someone earlier in the thread said they declined sending Pickens 1:1 for Henry (as they needed wins now) so maybe they are just stubborn!

That was me.

Not being stubborn. While I agree with you that post bye, Henry should have upside I don't think there's as much upside as Pickens has with Dak throwing the hell out of the ball.

Owner who is declining everything is 1-4. Needs a win. And Henry is on his bench right now (and they has a bye next week). So two weeks of nothing from Henry for him.

 

[Grahamburn]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

What's their record?

I think anyone who can afford to hold on Henry should; after his bye I'm expecting him to be a set-and-forget RB1.

If someone needs wins immediately (e.g. 0-5 or 1-4) then selling would be reasonable. I still wouldn't want to give him away though. To play devil's advocate on your Pickens/Chubb offer, Chubb is on BYE this week / ranked outside top 40 RBs by ECR. Pickens had 4 targets and 2 catches last week (albeit one was a long TD) and has CD returning as early as next week. If I were selling I'd want a better package.

That said, someone earlier in the thread said they declined sending Pickens 1:1 for Henry (as they needed wins now) so maybe they are just stubborn!

To clarify I offered that before last week after Pickens’ blowup game. But also before Chubb having a mini-breakout and holding off Marks.

I get why he didn’t take it. I’m not chapped about it or anything.

 

[-OZ-]

This has to be the buy low of a lifetime for D. Henry.

Defense stinks. Lamar hurt. Poor gamescript. Bye upcoming.

Negative, negative, negative.

Have to think they get healthier on D, Lamar will be back after the bye, and I see Cinci twice on the schedule, MIA's putrid D, CHI's putrid run D, and a PIT D that's been run on.

Would love to see some buy low trades that have been accepted.

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

I offered a first round pick. Doubt it will be taken. 32 team league, I’m currently a top 8 team though. So that’s a hard no league to trade in.

 

[Grahamburn]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

This is the week teams bail on him though. Terrible matchup this week and a bye next week. If they want out, the time is now.

Tried to tell his owner that. Guys are stubborn with players like this. They’d rather lose than help another owner down the line.

I can afford to wait on Henry. He can’t. It’s a weird mentality.

What's their record?

I think anyone who can afford to hold on Henry should; after his bye I'm expecting him to be a set-and-forget RB1.

If someone needs wins immediately (e.g. 0-5 or 1-4) then selling would be reasonable. I still wouldn't want to give him away though. To play devil's advocate on your Pickens/Chubb offer, Chubb is on BYE this week / ranked outside top 40 RBs by ECR. Pickens had 4 targets and 2 catches last week (albeit one was a long TD) and has CD returning as early as next week. If I were selling I'd want a better package.

That said, someone earlier in the thread said they declined sending Pickens 1:1 for Henry (as they needed wins now) so maybe they are just stubborn!

To clarify I offered that before last week after Pickens’ blowup game. But also before Chubb having a mini-breakout and holding off Marks.

I get why he didn’t take it. I’m not chapped about it or anything.

He has Countered with Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson.

 

[LawFitz]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

 

[Skolpnw]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

This is why Fantasy Football is fun.

I think this is a fair trade (albeit not buying low on Henry), and slightly prefer Henry over Jacobs (although I'm a Vikings fan and bet consensus rankings would be Jacobs > Henry) and Wilson over Deebo (I think that's probably consensus, but wouldn't fault someone for fading the Jets).

*edit*: I didn't realize how much passing work Josh Jacobs has been getting recently. I still think the trade is fair, but (especially with his bye past) probably need to amend Jacobs > Henry (although, having Henry on my roster, would love to be wrong).

 

[Ilov80s]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

 

[kyoun1e]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

 

[Payne]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

I posted one earlier.

I traded him straight up for AJ Brown in a PPR league after losing Nabers.

 

[Grahamburn]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

Of course. Jacobs has been rock solid on a good offense with a good to great defense and likely good game scripts.

I get the ask but I’m not paying 2024 Henry prices and that’s the ask. Oh well.

 

[Grahamburn]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

This is why Fantasy Football is fun.

I think this is a fair trade (albeit not buying low on Henry), and slightly prefer Henry over Jacobs (although I'm a Vikings fan and bet consensus rankings would be Jacobs > Henry) and Wilson over Deebo (I think that's probably consensus, but wouldn't fault someone for fading the Jets).

*edit*: I didn't realize how much passing work Josh Jacobs has been getting recently. I still think the trade is fair, but (especially with his bye past) probably need to amend Jacobs > Henry (although, having Henry on my roster, would love to be wrong).

He’d need to give me Henry+ for Jacobs.

 

[Guss]

I have not seen any trades for Henry, his owners are not trading him from what I have seen

In leagues with people who know what they're doing you probably will not see him traded

I posted one earlier.

I traded him straight up for AJ Brown in a PPR league after losing Nabers.

Must have missed your post. I hope it helps you

I was talking about my leagues and talking with friends/others about Henry and trades in general
no one had any talk of a Henry trade. A couple of friends have him and people trying to buy low but
they have not liked anything so far

 

[joey]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agreed.
And the hidden (or not so hidden) bonus that your RB1 doesn’t have a bye week at all.

 

[travdogg]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

Not on crack, but I'm on the other side of this. I actually think Garrett Wilson is the best player in the deal. He's WR5 right now, and he's got more targets than everyone except Puka and Olave. He's got no competition for targets and oodles of garbage time to compile. I feel like people are just undervaluing him because Jets, but he's basically been interchangeable with JSN.

I also think Deebo is on a McLaurin's missing based heater. I think he's BY FAR the worst player in this deal.

I think when Lamar is back, Henry and Jacobs are probably equals. Obviously, that doesn't help in week 6 or 7. Maybe this is a deal to revisit in a week?

 

[Grahamburn]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

Not on crack, but I'm on the other side of this. I actually think Garrett Wilson is the best player in the deal. He's WR5 right now, and he's got more targets than everyone except Puka and Olave. He's got no competition for targets and oodles of garbage time to compile. I feel like people are just undervaluing him because Jets, but he's basically been interchangeable with JSN.

I also think Deebo is on a McLaurin's missing based heater. I think he's BY FAR the worst player in this deal.

I think when Lamar is back, Henry and Jacobs are probably equals. Obviously, that doesn't help in week 6 or 7. Maybe this is a deal to revisit in a week?

Yeah. Wilson had no appeal to me. I have trouble wrapping my head around that dynamic and expecting the production to continue.

It’s tough to count on 10+ point 4th quarters every week.

 

[-OZ-]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

Not on crack, but I'm on the other side of this. I actually think Garrett Wilson is the best player in the deal. He's WR5 right now, and he's got more targets than everyone except Puka and Olave. He's got no competition for targets and oodles of garbage time to compile. I feel like people are just undervaluing him because Jets, but he's basically been interchangeable with JSN.

I also think Deebo is on a McLaurin's missing based heater. I think he's BY FAR the worst player in this deal.

I think when Lamar is back, Henry and Jacobs are probably equals. Obviously, that doesn't help in week 6 or 7. Maybe this is a deal to revisit in a week?

Yeah. Wilson had no appeal to me. I have trouble wrapping my head around that dynamic and expecting the production to continue.

It’s tough to count on 10+ point 4th quarters every week.

While a fair critique, in dynasty I don’t think it’s close. GW > Jacobs > Henry > Deebo

 

[Grahamburn]

Jacobs/Deebo for Henry/Wilson

For me:
Jacobs >> Henry
Deebo >> Wilson

Agree, if I could somehow flip Henry for Jacobs right now, I would be over the moon

That owner would have to be on crack to do that deal.

Not on crack, but I'm on the other side of this. I actually think Garrett Wilson is the best player in the deal. He's WR5 right now, and he's got more targets than everyone except Puka and Olave. He's got no competition for targets and oodles of garbage time to compile. I feel like people are just undervaluing him because Jets, but he's basically been interchangeable with JSN.

I also think Deebo is on a McLaurin's missing based heater. I think he's BY FAR the worst player in this deal.

I think when Lamar is back, Henry and Jacobs are probably equals. Obviously, that doesn't help in week 6 or 7. Maybe this is a deal to revisit in a week?

Yeah. Wilson had no appeal to me. I have trouble wrapping my head around that dynamic and expecting the production to continue.

It’s tough to count on 10+ point 4th quarters every week.

While a fair critique, in dynasty I don’t think it’s close. GW > Jacobs > Henry > Deebo

Probably not just based on the ages of the players… But, banking on the Jets getting this QB situation fixed?

As @travdogg said though Wilson is top 5 in this situation. I watched Mike Evans overcome bad QB and bad game script for years. Maybe Wilson can too.

 

[Soulfly3]

keeper (3) league, traded Lamb + Henry away for nabers and 2025 1st round pick

I was dead, he was challenging. Wanted to rid of Henry badly before he's woth zero, found a nibble and took it

 

[Footballdaz]

If King Henry has so so game again. I'd say Father Time finally caught up to him,as has all those touches in his career.
Nobody beats father time.

 

[Skolpnw]

If King Henry has so so game again. I'd say Father Time finally caught up to him,as has all those touches in his career.
Nobody beats father time.

I'm not expecting much from him this week. Rams defense (who've played CMC, JT and Saquon) have allowed the fewest rushing TDs and third fewest yards/rush.

If he doesn't run over Chicago and Miami out of the bye then I'm panicking...

 

[Runkle]

Ugh 2nd & goal from the 1, and they tush-push with the TE twice?

Henry with 90 rushing yards in the first half. Watch them abandon him in the 2nd half "to establish the pass".