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RB Doug Martin, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

Rotoworld:

The Tampa Tribune says Doug Martin had his "best offseason in three years."

Martin has come roaring off the mat, quickly going from the trade block to the heavy favorite to start Week 1. Charles Sims, who averaged 2.8 YPC last year, is likely to be used in his natural pass-catching role and Bobby Rainey projects as a backup in both spots. Although Martin has been one of the worst running backs in the league over the last two seasons, he's a feature back in a contract year with an ADP in the eighth round. As a rookie in 2012, he erupted for a 319-1,454-11 line.

Related: Charles Sims, Bobby Rainey

Source: Tampa Tribune
Jun 23 - 8:03 AM
 
Rotoworld:

Doug Martin is down to 210 pounds.

Martin was listed at 225 pounds last year. Playing at a lower weight should improve Martin's short-area quickness after he struggled with conditoning in 2014. The Bucs have been impressed with the slimmed-down version of Martin, giving him first-team reps throughout the offseason. Martin has post-hype sleeper appeal at his current eighth-round ADP.

Source: Pewter Report
Jul 10 - 6:09 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Doug Martin is down to 210 pounds.

Martin was listed at 225 pounds last year. Playing at a lower weight should improve Martin's short-area quickness after he struggled with conditoning in 2014. The Bucs have been impressed with the slimmed-down version of Martin, giving him first-team reps throughout the offseason. Martin has post-hype sleeper appeal at his current eighth-round ADP.

Source: Pewter Report
Jul 10 - 6:09 PM
13 lbs. less than his combine weight.

 
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So much for him being traded... I'm still not 100% sold on Simms, so I wouldn't be surprised if he starts. I also hear Rainey is looking good.

 
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It's nice to have some legitimate clarity in a fantasy football camp battle (particularly as it still seems to be under the radar in the mainstream). It's a rare event and we should feel lucky.

The O-line is a concern but they play in a pretty weak division defensively.

 
Now the offensive line just has to block some people. :mellow:
I haven't researched it... how is the line shaping up this year? More of the same or did they make any improvements?
Not a Bucs homer, so correct me if I'm wrong, but they invested at least 2 2nd round draft picks into the line (and perhaps other resources). Mankins should be a little better in his 2nd year with the system. Now, relying on 2 2nd round rookies, especially one from a very small college, probably isn't ideal, but it can't be worse than they had last year.

 
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Now the offensive line just has to block some people. :mellow:
I haven't researched it... how is the line shaping up this year? More of the same or did they make any improvements?
Not a Bucs homer, so correct me if I'm wrong, but they invested at least 2 2nd round draft picks into the line (and perhaps other resources). Mankins should be a little better in his 2nd year with the system. Now, relying on 2 2nd round rookies, especially one from a very small college, probably isn't ideal, but it can't be worse than they had last year.
Donovan Smith, OT from Penn State who most projected as a RT in the pros looks like he's penciled in at LT for the Bucs and Ali Marpet from Hobart at guard. Mankins supposedly got himself into great shape in the offseason. They're banking on him and Evan Smith, the Center they signed from GB last year, to be much improved. They also drafted a couple players late last year, Kevin Pamphile and Kadeem Edwards, who they're expecting to contribute.

The biggest difference in my opinion is going to be having an actual offensive coordinator, Dirk Koetter. There's actually a lot of talent on this offense. Tons of ifs, but there are fantasy points to be had in Tampa.

 
Rotoworld:

The Tampa Tribune believes Doug Martin looks "leaner and quicker" in camp.

Coach Lovie Smith has already claimed Martin will be the team's lead back, but he'll have to solidify his standing in the preseason. Even with Martin expected to start Week 1, Charles Sims should handle passing-down duties.

Related: Charles Sims

Source: Tampa Tribune

Aug 8 - 1:05 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Appearing on NFL Network Tuesday afternoon, Mike Mayock said the Bucs are "excited that we’re going to see the Doug Martin of 2012."

"Apparently Doug Martin looks fantastic," Mayock said. His words come three days after the Tampa Tribune reported Martin looks "leaner and quicker." Martin entered the offseason with a tenuous grip on No. 1 duties, but has separated himself from 2014 coaching-staff darling Charles Sims. He needs a strong preseason to solidify himself at the top of the depth chart, but Martin is putting himself back in the (low-end) RB2 conversation.

Related: Charles Sims

Source: Chris Wesseling on Twitter
 
Why would the staff be trying to pump him up in a contract year?
They seemed quite down on him even before 2014, hence the drafting of Sims. He followed that up with a poor year. There were some whispers of things behind the scenes with Doug. Maybe he has rededicated himself? All indications are he looks like a different player, or the same player he was as a rookie?

 
He's the type of guy I'm willing to be wrong about. At a certain point I'm sure he'd be worth the risk, but my guess is he'll be off the board before he'd reach that point for me.

Bobby Rainey looks like the better RB to me, and that's not saying much. Martin may bounce back and become a draft day steal, but he'll be on some one else's team if/when that happens.

 
With all this news his ADP his definitely going to rise, and if he actually does look good in the preseason he'll probably end up going in the first 4 rounds. One of the pros of early drafts. He went for $6 last week in a $200 12 team auction.

 
Grahamburn said:
With all this news his ADP his definitely going to rise, and if he actually does look good in the preseason he'll probably end up going in the first 4 rounds. One of the pros of early drafts. He went for $6 last week in a $200 12 team auction.
Could be a steal.

 
got a trade offer of Gio Bernard for Martin, thinking I should sell Martin high while the news is favorable? :unsure:
It all depends on perspective. For me, I'd buy Martin all day over Gio right now. In my mind I'd be buying low on Martin since I consider his arrow to be pointing up and Gio's to be pointed down. I imagine others will feel differently.

 
got a trade offer of Gio Bernard for Martin, thinking I should sell Martin high while the news is favorable? :unsure:
It all depends on perspective. For me, I'd buy Martin all day over Gio right now. In my mind I'd be buying low on Martin since I consider his arrow to be pointing up and Gio's to be pointed down. I imagine others will feel differently.
Yeah, and emergence of Jeremy Hill is what scares me with Gio. I rejected the offer after some thought.

 
Well he's been going as late as the 10th-12th in mocks I've been doing in the past three days. I've been stung by Martin before, but he's a no brainer flyer if he falls that far.

 
@JeffDarlington: After watching Doug Martin today in camp, I'm sold. Looks rejuvenated. If he can stay healthy... (I know, I know...If grandma had wheels...)

 
@tkras saying he is looking like the most impressive player in camp. ASJ also looking good. A few drops but definitely has a rapport with Winston.

 
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Rotoworld:

Doug Martin managed 19 yards on five carries in the Bucs' preseason opener against the Vikings.

Martin got the start, but the Bucs used each of their top-three backs in the Jameis Winston group, also mixing in Charles Sims and Bobby Rainey. Martin looks to have regained some quickness, but the Bucs' offensive line is going to be an issue for him all year, and it looks like another multi-back committee could be in store for Tampa Bay's offense. We'll continue to monitor Martin's situation all preseason.

Aug 15 - 10:02 PM
 
Well he's been going as late as the 10th-12th in mocks I've been doing in the past three days. I've been stung by Martin before, but he's a no brainer flyer if he falls that far.
In real drafts I have been doing for the past week MFL 10's and FFPC he is going in the 7th and 8th.

 
Well he's been going as late as the 10th-12th in mocks I've been doing in the past three days. I've been stung by Martin before, but he's a no brainer flyer if he falls that far.
MFL ADP since Aug 1st has him at 63 overall, an early 6th. Your mocks seem way off relative to that.

 
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Well he's been going as late as the 10th-12th in mocks I've been doing in the past three days. I've been stung by Martin before, but he's a no brainer flyer if he falls that far.
MFL ADP since Aug 1st has him at 63 overall, an early 6th. Your mocks seem way off relative to that.
It was on NFL.com mock drafts, but this was now five days ago. Past day or two on mocks and the dominator he's now going around the 6th-7th

 
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Martin looked good last night, but their o-line is still pretty bad. I think he is gonna have a lot of 20-65-type weeks.
All RBs have those. He should be the RB inside the 10 and catch a few passes. This offense will be better.

 
I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract

 
I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract
I see the concern with him but I think he sort of took it easy after his great rookie year and didn't think he had to work hard to be that good. Seems he got the message when faced with losing his job.

ETA: I would personally prefer to see him leave TB next year.

 
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I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract
I see the concern with him but I think he sort of took it easy after his great rookie year and didn't think he had to work hard to be that good. Seems he got the message when faced with losing his job.

ETA: I would personally prefer to see him leave TB next year.
I agree with this and would like to add that being injured a lot the last 2 years probably affected his conditioning as well.

 
I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract
A lot of blame seemed to be heaped on Martin after not repeating his rookie season, but look at the Bucs' offense as a whole in those two seasons. Freeman debacle in Martin's sophomore campaign. Tedford debacle last year with rotating Glennon and McCown at QB.

He needs to shoulder some of it if he wasn't in shape for those years, but some consistency on offense would have helped. Vincent Jackson's numbers were pretty bad last year also, but nobody cares because his arms looked good?

 
I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract
A lot of blame seemed to be heaped on Martin after not repeating his rookie season, but look at the Bucs' offense as a whole in those two seasons. Freeman debacle in Martin's sophomore campaign. Tedford debacle last year with rotating Glennon and McCown at QB.

He needs to shoulder some of it if he wasn't in shape for those years, but some consistency on offense would have helped. Vincent Jackson's numbers were pretty bad last year also, but nobody cares because his arms looked good?
Vincent played well last year despite poor QBs and wasn't fat. Hard to believe a serious skill position player could be in a place where he needs to drop 20 pounds.

 
I'm glad everybody is excited and I hope he plays well but as a bucs fan it says a lot to me that he suddenly had to drop 20 pounds in a contract year to get into great shape and be ready to go. Where was this the past two years?

Even if he pops off for 1500 yards I would be hesitant to give him a new contract
A lot of blame seemed to be heaped on Martin after not repeating his rookie season, but look at the Bucs' offense as a whole in those two seasons. Freeman debacle in Martin's sophomore campaign. Tedford debacle last year with rotating Glennon and McCown at QB.

He needs to shoulder some of it if he wasn't in shape for those years, but some consistency on offense would have helped. Vincent Jackson's numbers were pretty bad last year also, but nobody cares because his arms looked good?
Vincent played well last year despite poor QBs and wasn't fat. Hard to believe a serious skill position player could be in a place where he needs to drop 20 pounds.
I'm not sure "silly" is the right word, given that both the current consensus #1 and #2 dynasty RBs were in that place themselves not too long ago.

 
My concern with Martin is I don't think he is that great at breaking tackles & creating something out of nothing. Without solid o-line play & holes he isn't that effective. If he has a hole & can get into the second level of the defense he can be dangerous.

Another concern of mine is Martins effectiveness in the pass game. He can catch, and run a screen play, but he has trouble catching passes near the sidelines. He is just too short.

If the oline doesn't make holes, and the Koetter wants to throw to the RB position more, then Sims might see more action.

 

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