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RB Elijah Mitchell, KC (2 Viewers)
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GreenNGold
Footballguy
Despite SF being a pretty bad team, Mitchell is one of the few clear RB1's in the league without a timeshare, and that still gives him value.
rockaction
Footballguy
In redraft? Why? If you don't mind me asking
My immediate thought is that he sort of has a stranglehold on that job until he gets hurt or Wilson comes back, which won't be until later in the year.
For some reason people are using Wilson as an example but that guy is the definition of a jag. There is no reason he is moving right into the #1 slot
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I meant one of the few clear lead backs without a RBBC on a team when I typed that, not necessarily RB1 like you are defining it. I'll try to be more careful using that acronym going forward. Using that definition I'd say he is a RB2 with RB1 upside (depending on matchup who is starting at QB). As it currently stands I'd rank him right in the middle of the RB12 to RB24 ROS rankings.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I personally think WIlson has looked dynamic when healthy over the years. I think his size is what had been holding him back, and it will continue to. But dynamism is not his problem. He shredded a good Cardinals defense last year towards the very end, looking spry and up to the task. He's also a very good route runner and receiver out of the backfield. I remember them pulling Mostert for him to run routes on third down inside the red zone in 2019.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I disagree as I think Lance is a downgrade for the entire offense. Long-term he might turn into something better but I don't see that happening this year. This past game was a monsoon, it will be interesting to see how games play out under more normal conditions the rest of the season.
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Blick
Footballguy
I think I disagree with this. As long as they are competent enough in the passing game to pose a treat, running QBs tend to open up the running game, especially with RPO.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
I get downgrading the guy based upon situation (just like we do with NE RBs and Baltimore WRs), but Mitchell is a bonafide NFL RB. His one-cuts and B++ acceleration (and speed) are downright dreamy, and his power is good. If and when he demonstrates an ability to catch passes out of the backfield, he'll be a top-15 RB, easily.
Blick
Footballguy
A few targets a game are the only thing keeping him from being an every week starter.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Didn't they bring in Hasty on every third down this past Sunday?GreenNGold said:
Also, let's not fall into the trap yet again of assuming we have the SF backfield figured out. I think it's pretty clear that Shanny thinks Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>>Sermon, but beyond that we don't have much of a sample size to go on in terms of making definitive pronouncements.
I currently have Mitchell as my RB3 in a league where we can only start 2 RBs (flex is WR/TE). That's fine for now, especially since Kamara and Robinson are both past their byes; he should be a nice fill-in if either of them get injured. But I'm keeping my expectations firmly in check.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
The current SF backfield is completely figured out, why do people keep acting like it is not? The only question is around Wilson if/when he comes back.
I have been saying since week 1 it goes Mitchell, Hasty, Sermon (Mostert would be higher if he was still healthy), yet people keep questioning this. We know Wilson will be above Sermon and probably Hasty when he comes back, I'm not sure how much of Mitchell's role he would potentially take over.
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Last I read Wilson isn't close to being back.
I was holding him all year but if he is out until december it's going to take him a few games to get going anyway and if the 49ers are nowhere near a playoff spot they might not let him play anyway
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Insoxicated
Everything I'm hearing is Mid-Late November on Wilson. Lynch has said he's coming back.
11/21 - Week 11 vs Jags - Maybe
11/28 - Week 12 vs Vikings - Likely
Week 13: @ Seattle
Week 14: @ Cincy
Week 15: vs Atlanta
Week 16: @ Tenn
At that point, unless MItchell is just ROLLING, I see Wilson rendering Mitchell nothing more than a flex play with upside if he hits paydirt.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
18-137-1
I love this guy!
I love this guy!
Blick
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Concur. He demonstrated an ability to catch the ball out of the backfield in college, but I suppose passes to Mitchell are an afterthought when you have a dynamic player like Deebo. Still, dude has been a lock for 18 touches when healthy.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
I'll take a stab
no specific order
Chubb, J Robinson, Michael Carter, Darrell Henderson, Cook, A Jones, Taylor, Ekeler, Mixon, Zeke, Kamara, Najee Harris , McKissic, Swift to name a few. SF too fickle with RBs. Lance would be a big hurt to Mitchell - rookie QB less first downs less time of possession more 3-n-outs.
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Whelp, I have been afraid of this, and now it's time to confirm......gonna be a shanahanigan mess between Mitchell and Wilson each week, as long as both are healthy.
Shame.....
Shame.....
sho nuff
Footballguy
Im more pissed at Deebo getting goalline carry. Mitchell still has 14 carries. Will likely get close to 20.
Truebluey
Footballguy
Doesn't look like it. They clearly trust Mitchell fully. He's the guy running out the clock, and getting tough yards. Good performance. Wilson is good for spelling him, although he might get goal line carries inside the 5, he runs very hard.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
27 rushes for 91 yards. YPC needs a boost, but damn - 27 carries!
Stat Correction
Footballguy
I'm still concerned about Wilson moving forward. Shanny loves him too, and will get playing time....including "hot hand" scenarios. Also, must game flows are not gonna look like tonight for SF. Just puts a definite cap on what could have been for Mitchell.
Hope I'm wrong.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
27 carries and you sweat Wilson touching the ball 10x in a blowout basically on MNF?
-Mitchell is one of the very few that has been going almost exclusive at RB, the notion that you sit there and whine and cry because another RB who has had very inconsistent success is getting to spell Mitchell, preposterous.
-If you're that intelligent and can see the future thru your snow globe then cut Mitchell and pick up Wilson in redraft and show the league how far advanced you are.
-If anything, in redraft you should have sold high but most folks who drafted or acquired Mitchell were drunk on his touches and didn't want to move him, so sit there and sweat every weekend or Sunday morning but the reality is Mitchell gets a ton of touches he shoved Trey Sermon to the bench and nobody is coming to take his job.
Will Wilson score a few TDs the rest of the season, likely but that's no reason to act like the sky is falling, just ridiculous mindset.
Grab those rosary beads off the wall and use 'em.
-Mitchell is one of the very few that has been going almost exclusive at RB, the notion that you sit there and whine and cry because another RB who has had very inconsistent success is getting to spell Mitchell, preposterous.
-If you're that intelligent and can see the future thru your snow globe then cut Mitchell and pick up Wilson in redraft and show the league how far advanced you are.
-If anything, in redraft you should have sold high but most folks who drafted or acquired Mitchell were drunk on his touches and didn't want to move him, so sit there and sweat every weekend or Sunday morning but the reality is Mitchell gets a ton of touches he shoved Trey Sermon to the bench and nobody is coming to take his job.
Will Wilson score a few TDs the rest of the season, likely but that's no reason to act like the sky is falling, just ridiculous mindset.
Grab those rosary beads off the wall and use 'em.
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Shanny does not love wilson. The guy is the historically the 3rd to 4th string rb. He plays when everyone else is injured which has been a lot the last couple of years.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
He looks like a guy that's going to get pretty consistent usage but struggle to find efficiency. SF's schemes seem designed to use the RB rush attack to set up other efficiencies. The catches and TD's won't be there. The volume and schedule are good.
We're going to have to hope he breaks a few long runs here and there, the way they use him is ugly, especially in ppr.
We're going to have to hope he breaks a few long runs here and there, the way they use him is ugly, especially in ppr.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ugh…I may be playing backup level players this week at RB and flex with byes and injuries.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Tell me about it. In my main money league, we start 2 RBs and no flex, so I don't tend to roster a ton of them. I dropped Herbert once Montgomery came back and figured, with all of my remaining three RBs past their bye, I should be set ROS with Mitchell as backup to my two starters, Robinson and Kamara.
Tell me about it. In my main money league, we start 2 RBs and no flex, so I don't tend to roster a ton of them. I dropped Herbert once Montgomery came back and figured, with all of my remaining three RBs past their bye, I should be set ROS with Mitchell as backup to my two starters, Robinson and Kamara.
It's ugly out there for sure...I play a guy for first place this week and he has kamara so no offense but I'm hopeful he is out for one more week
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Hopefully have Barkley coming back. But even then a guy coming off injury and Covid. Kupp and Javonte on a bye, lost Aaron Jones to injury…been missing Barkley and Carson.Tell me about it. In my main money league, we start 2 RBs and no flex, so I don't tend to roster a ton of them. I dropped Herbert once Montgomery came back and figured, with all of my remaining three RBs past their bye, I should be set ROS with Mitchell as backup to my two starters, Robinson and Kamara.
So I have Pollard and Adrian Peterson and Aiyuk to fill 2 spots at the moment of Eli can’t go.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I think this is the point where someone on this forum is legally required to respond to both our posts with this:Hopefully have Barkley coming back. But even then a guy coming off injury and Covid. Kupp and Javonte on a bye, lost Aaron Jones to injury…been missing Barkley and Carson.Tell me about it. In my main money league, we start 2 RBs and no flex, so I don't tend to roster a ton of them. I dropped Herbert once Montgomery came back and figured, with all of my remaining three RBs past their bye, I should be set ROS with Mitchell as backup to my two starters, Robinson and Kamara.
So I have Pollard and Adrian Peterson and Aiyuk to fill 2 spots at the moment of Eli can’t go.
