And about Gurley...I bet this was said a TON about TRich as well at one point
Having a guy at 3 who's never played an NFL snap... Riskayyyyyyyyy... And I love me some risk
Similarly to Adrian Peterson and Todd Gurley, Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott has been exempted from Todd McShay's don't-draft-a-RB-Round 1 rule.
"He's a total tone-setter in practices and games, with the offense often running through him," McShay wrote. "A true three-down back, Elliott runs with authority and plays with great patience and vision, showing natural (and underrated) pass-catching skills." The analyst goes as far as to say that he's "never seen anything like [Elliott's] run-blocking ability from the RB position and says the runner's "toughness cannot be overlooked."
Somebody has been watching their NFL Live.Elliott reminds me a lot of Mendenhall, with a much longer resume for a better team.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why people ignore Lamar Miller. What more does a guy need to do?Gurley and Bell the only sure ones.
Then personal preference between guys like DJ, Elliott, Freeman. I'd take Elliott 3rd RB overall, but in a tier quite a bit below the top 2.
You mean, other than play for a team that will actually use him consistently?For the life of me, I cannot understand why people ignore Lamar Miller. What more does a guy need to do?
Aware...just no way yet to tell what kind of workload he'll get.I guess Arodin is not aware Miller signed with the Texans.
kinda proves my point in a way.
Soulfly is dead on. There is simply NO WAY you can take any rb that has never played a down in the NFL without even knowing what team he will play on and say is a top 3-5 RB. No way. You've got the fever worse than the guy who wanted more cowbell if you do. Reality check is needed.It has more to do with the pathetic dynasty RB landscape. Who is worth taking above him? It isn't like DJ or Freeman have much of a history or top pedigree.
id bet on Elliott outperforming either of those guys over the next 3-5 years all day.
tons of average low pedigree RBs have looked great in limited samples. I'll bet on the Ferrari.
Completely disagree with that, and all dynasty ADP info does as well. Whether you like it or not Elliott is valued as a top 5 dynasty RB right now. That's just a fact.Soulfly is dead on. There is simply NO WAY you can take any rb that has never played a down in the NFL without even knowing what team he will play on and say is a top 3-5 RB. No way. You've got the fever worse than the guy who wanted more cowbell if you do. Reality check is needed.
I'm not a fan of these kind of articles.
As a long time Steelers fan Ike is an idiot...
There were people ranking Gurley ahead of Bell as the No. 1 overall RB last offseason.As for the top5 Dynasty RB title already given to him, it's ridiculous. I don't remember people saying that about Gurley last year, and he was a better prospect than Elliott by far.
I don't. I can post it in the dynasty value thread maybe?I would like to discuss that RB list of yours Doc but I don't want to hijack the thread. Do you have it posted somewhere else?
I'd love to join that topic.I don't. I can post it in the dynasty value thread maybe?
post-hype hype? revisionist hype? What's the most accurate term for this?As a long time Steelers fan Ike is an idiot...
As for the top5 Dynasty RB title already given to him, it's ridiculous. I don't remember people saying that about Gurley last year, and he was a better prospect than Elliott by far. All this RB landscape stuff is a load of garbage. Find a good situation for a RB, hope he doesn't get hurt, and MAKE SURE HE CATCHES PASSES. Sure Elliott looks like a great prospect but he's still that, a prospect.
Care to drop a few names on us?I like Elliot and he is a good running back and seems to be a good person, but I love how these prospects get better and better as we get closer to the NFL draft.
It's just natural I suppose, but for me he has done nothing to change my mind as to the type of player he is or will be. I also think there are other backs that are not that far off from his talent in this class.
Haha -- it's certainly possible but I may be biased. Although I am talking about college...not what he has done in the league.Yesterday I heard Bill Polan on Sirius say that he thought E2 might be the best player in this year's draft.
Zero. The one flag (and it's only a flag because that's all there is to criticize on him) is that he criticized his coach after a loss to Michigan St where he only got 10 carries or so and they barely trailed. He is squeaky clean and loves football.Any character red flags with this guy? Or any rookies being discussed in the top 5 or so this year?
If you were a Cowboys, I have one simple question. Why would you not want this guy? He's the best back the NFL has seen out of college since 2008.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Only 10 carries for the best back in the country is ridiculous. They would've been National Champions for a second year in a row if they let him run the ball. Even Urban said he regretted that.Zero. The one flag (and it's only a flag because that's all there is to criticize on him) is that he criticized his coach after a loss to Michigan St where he only got 10 carries or so and they barely trailed. He is squeaky clean and loves football.
I saw him interviewed on the NFL Network and he seemed like the nicest guy ever. Fun loving, yet respectful and humble.Zero. The one flag (and it's only a flag because that's all there is to criticize on him) is that he criticized his coach after a loss to Michigan St where he only got 10 carries or so and they barely trailed. He is squeaky clean and loves football.
Thanks for the information (to all above). Kinda sucks, but in today's NFL, even as dynasty fantasy football owners, you have to take these things into account with your rookie picks.Dr. Octopus said:I saw him interviewed on the NFL Network and he seemed like the nicest guy ever. Fun loving, yet respectful and humble.
Understandable. Especially when you're going to be shelling out tens of millions of dollars for your first round pick.Thanks for the information (to all above). Kinda sucks, but in today's NFL, even as dynasty fantasy football owners, you have to take these things into account with your rookie picks.
My dynasty league doesn't have that kinda FAAB, haha.Understandable. Especially when you're going to be shelling out tens of millions of dollars for your first round pick.
Touche, sir. LoL!My dynasty league doesn't have that kinda FAAB, haha.
Why do you say that? As an NFL prospect? A fantasy prospect? As a runner? Or as a complete RB? (Run, catch, block)Brendon1215 said:You guys may think I'm crazy, but honestly, I think Ezekiel Elliott is a better overall prospect than Adrian Peterson was when he was coming out of Oklahoma.
As a complete RB. The guy can do any & everything.Why do you say that? As an NFL prospect? A fantasy prospect? As a runner? Or as a complete RB? (Run, catch, block)
I have heard coaches say that his outburst was actually a positive. It showed leadership and character in the way he handled himself at that point forward. At minimum we can say the outburst showed E2 is a competitor.cockroach said:Zero. The one flag (and it's only a flag because that's all there is to criticize on him) is that he criticized his coach after a loss to Michigan St where he only got 10 carries or so and they barely trailed. He is squeaky clean and loves football.
Gotta check those eyes. Dixon is very slow for his size.I actually think Jonathan Williams is on the same talent level as Zeke only his health being a concern, however the way people recover medically today and if my medical people signed off on him then to me I would see them as equals.
Kenneth Dixon has incredible explosion and vision and on tape I think Dixon is faster. I don't have the combine numbers sitting in front of me or their pro day numbers, but just what my eyes see tell me he can ball. I don't worry about small school players competition argument to much. You can ball or you can't. He also seems to catch the ball a little better.
I do think Zeke is the best back in the draft. I just don't buy the drop to the 2nd and 3rd back is that steep.
I believe he got 12, and averaged 2.7 YPC with them. With the way MSU DL played it would not have mattered if he got 30.Brendon1215 said:If you were a Cowboys, I have one simple question. Why would you not want this guy? He's the best back the NFL has seen out of college since 2008.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Only 10 carries for the best back in the country is ridiculous. They would've been National Champions for a second year in a row if they let him run the ball. Even Urban said he regretted that.
You're wrong about that game. And the only person that showed anything on offense was Zeke. Coaches were concerned because they didn't even think he was going to play because he was in the hospital two days before. If they would have fed Zeke they would have won that game and, at very least, made the playoff.I believe he got 12, and averaged 2.7 YPC with them. With the way MSU DL played it would not have mattered if he got 30.
I thought his comments after were out of frustration, signs that he is a 20-year old with some maturing to do. Also known as a 20-year old. No concern for me.