In that format, I’d lean JT given it’s a non-PPR.I'm deciding, in a one-player keeper league, whether to trade for Gibbs or Taylor before the draft. Rush TD-heavy scoring, non PPR league. Thoughts?
In that format, I’d lean JT given it’s a non-PPR.I'm deciding, in a one-player keeper league, whether to trade for Gibbs or Taylor before the draft. Rush TD-heavy scoring, non PPR league. Thoughts?
You missed my point but we also agree I think1,132 and 13 TDs over just 14 gamesWe can't see how Gibbs can return the value to justify his ADP. OK....
Rushing Receiving Fantasy Player Team G Att Yard TD Target Rec Yard TD FPts FPts/G 1. Christian McCaffrey SF 16 272 1,459 14 83 67 564 7 391.3 24.5 2. Breece Hall NYJ 17 223 994 5 95 76 591 4 288.5 17.0 3. Travis Etienne JAC 17 267 1,008 11 73 58 476 1 278.4 16.4 4. Rachaad White TB 17 272 990 6 70 64 549 3 267.9 15.8 5. Raheem Mostert MIA 15 209 1,012 18 32 25 175 3 267.7 17.8 6. Joe Mixon CIN 17 257 1,034 9 64 52 376 3 265.0 15.6 7. Kyren Williams LAR 12 228 1,144 12 48 32 206 3 253.0 21.1 8. Bijan Robinson ATL 17 214 976 4 86 58 487 4 246.3 14.5 9. Jahmyr Gibbs DET 15 182 945 10 71 52 316 1 242.1 16.1 10. Derrick Henry TEN 17 280 1,167 12 36 28 214 0 238.1 14.0 11. James Cook BUF 17 237 1,122 2 54 44 445 4 232.7 13.7 12. Alvin Kamara NO 13 180 694 5 86 75 466 1 227.0 17.5 17. David Montgomery DET 14 219 1,015 13 24 16 117 0 205.2 14.7
Could we imagine a world in which Gibbs plays 17 games? Because if he did that last year and maintained the same PPG pace, he would have scored 274.4. RB4
But only 17 RBs managed 200+ touches and played 17 games.
Let's say he misses 2 games again, but scores the same PPT (points per touch.) No improvement from Y1 to Y2, but he's just the same guy. He had 234 touches last year. That's 15.6 per game. If we increase his touches to 17.67, and keep the points per touch the same, - 1.03 - he would score 274.1, RB4.
We can't justify his ADP....because we can't see him staying healthy....or because we can't imagine a world in which his usage increases 2 touches per game?
Is it because only 4 RBs average more than 1 point per touch? He was one of them, along with CMC, Mostert and Achane. Why would he decline? I'm not aware of any data that shows early breakout, high draft capital, efficient RBs decline Y2 from Y1. Same HC, same offense, same offensive coordinator, same QB WR1 RB2 TE1. Offensive line - replaced Jonah Jackson with an upgrade, Kevin Zeitler. There's a reason they are the #1 line in the NFL. The coach is committed to running the ball.
Explain to me why taking Gibbs at RB6 is not green light all the way?
This RB likely would have gone over 250 carries had he stayed healthy for all 17 games, he missed a full 3 weeks
Of course I'm talking about Monty at the RB-1B we'll call it now.
They pay him an avg salary of $6M at RB, they could draft a RB in the 3rd or 4th, cost them a lot less and they all seem to believe in what Monty brings to the offense.
Do you see Monty being fazed out this season? The 2 RBs make one of the strongest RB tandems in the NFL
I see big things for Gibbs and love him on the 1/2 turn where I scooped him up in 10 team redrafts. I never really had to make a choice when I wasn't in a position to take him but I am prepared in some of my more serious redrafts, you know the ones that hold them either the night prior to kickoff or during the actual TNF kickoff game, I am prepared to take him higher than his ADP if I feel boxed in during the 1st round. I have a couple RBs I like at Gibbs level or tier. I put Saquon in that tier and I have a couple others but Gibbs should improve on his numbers. He started off pretty slow as I recall, Monty was getting a lot of work early in the season and then was injured.
This is faulty logic. There is no guarantee that a drafted back will be as good as Montgomery, no matter where he is drafted.
This prediction was pretty darn goodTop 12 ppr RB next year, top 5 dyno RB heading into 2024.
If I am wrong I will self impose a 3 month ban for this account.
This prediction was pretty darn goodTop 12 ppr RB next year, top 5 dyno RB heading into 2024.
If I am wrong I will self impose a 3 month ban for this account.
It was not the popular opinion a) when it was posted in here, b) on this board. There was real debate in here about Gibbs. Check out pages 8-16 of this thread.This prediction was pretty darn goodTop 12 ppr RB next year, top 5 dyno RB heading into 2024.
If I am wrong I will self impose a 3 month ban for this account.
It was, but it was the popular opinion before the season last year. He was being drafted in the 3rd round last year in high stakes draft between rb 10 and 15.
It was not the popular opinion a) when it was posted in here, b) on this board. There was real debate in here about Gibbs. Check out pages 8-16 of this thread.This prediction was pretty darn goodTop 12 ppr RB next year, top 5 dyno RB heading into 2024.
If I am wrong I will self impose a 3 month ban for this account.
It was, but it was the popular opinion before the season last year. He was being drafted in the 3rd round last year in high stakes draft between rb 10 and 15.
I care about your FF team, buddy.It was not the popular opinion a) when it was posted in here, b) on this board. There was real debate in here about Gibbs. Check out pages 8-16 of this thread.This prediction was pretty darn goodTop 12 ppr RB next year, top 5 dyno RB heading into 2024.
If I am wrong I will self impose a 3 month ban for this account.
It was, but it was the popular opinion before the season last year. He was being drafted in the 3rd round last year in high stakes draft between rb 10 and 15.
I traded away Addison for him while he was hurt (WKs 5-6); he scored all 10 of TDs and had his best games post-trade (& this red hot player thread turned into crickets.)
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I care about your FF team, buddy.
2.06!!!I’m trying to offer the same joy to anyone who drafts him at the turn this year, brother man
Thought for sure that said Deepak ChopraDeepak Chona, MD writes an injury report for Fantasy Pros. This is what he wrote about Gibbs today:
RB hamstring injuries average 2-3 weeks. Reports suggest Gibbs intends to return at ~2, which would confirm relatively mild severity. Don’t expect much of a performance dip by the time Week 1 starts, but he does carry ~20% re-injury risk through the first half of the season.
I read it as that as well at first.Thought for sure that said Deepak Chopra
If Richardson’s a big enough disaster that means not a lot of scoring opportunities for JT in the red zone. And when they do get there, Richardsons running in some of those.I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
Gibbs has to share a backfield with a fantastic GL runner. He also has to share with LaPorta and ARSB.If Richardson’s a big enough disaster that means not a lot of scoring opportunities for JT in the red zone. And when they do get there, Richardsons running in some of those.I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
Neither will be there. I have them JT, Gibbs, Barkley and I live in Detroit.I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
I'm picking at 1.09 and essentially that's the decision I'm going to be making myself, however, I am leaning Gibbs and hoping somehow Taylor or Barkley are waiting for me at 2.04.
12 team league.
Neither will be there. I have them JT, Gibbs, Barkley and I live in Detroit.I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
I'm picking at 1.09 and essentially that's the decision I'm going to be making myself, however, I am leaning Gibbs and hoping somehow Taylor or Barkley are waiting for me at 2.04.
12 team league.
Actually, mocking a RB in round 1 has left me with better teams I feel. Even going RB-RB seems pretty solid this year.Neither will be there. I have them JT, Gibbs, Barkley and I live in Detroit.I'm taking JT over him. Richardson has been a disaster meaning JT is going to get a lot of work.
I'm picking at 1.09 and essentially that's the decision I'm going to be making myself, however, I am leaning Gibbs and hoping somehow Taylor or Barkley are waiting for me at 2.04.
12 team league.
You're probably right. In that case I would go best WR available. I wouldn't be crazy about going RB/RB in 2024 anyways, but if there's some kind of slippage I'd be down to have any combination of those players as the best two players on my team.
I'd have to go WR/WR with picks 3/4 but I think there's definite value in and around that range.
All I can say is...thank you.I traded away Addison for him while he was hurt (WKs 5-6); he scored all 10 of TDs and had his best games post-trade (& this red hot player thread turned into crickets.)
Oh that’s delightful news.Bridget Condon
Jahmyr Gibbs, who has been dealing with a leg injury, is out on the field running routes and catching passes from Jared Goff #Lionsx.com
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I snagged him at 1.12 in my long-time league with friends last week and was quite happy about it.Hope you’re right everyone, because picking 1.07 in my NFFC rotoworld online championship tonight I went JJ ~> Gibbs.
I’ve done a lot of mocks. That’s the latest I’ve seen him go.
I know, I know. Nobody cares about my FF team.
That’s most typically where I’ve seen him go.I snagged him at 1.12 in my long-time league with friends last week and was quite happy about it.Hope you’re right everyone, because picking 1.07 in my NFFC rotoworld online championship tonight I went JJ ~> Gibbs.
I’ve done a lot of mocks. That’s the latest I’ve seen him go.
I know, I know. Nobody cares about my FF team.
Like a handcuff with standalone value.think i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
It's not always advisable or possible depending on your draft position. If you draft 2 RBs early, a WR or 2 might the next best players and then Montgomery may have been drafted. Are you willing to draft Montgomery a little early?think i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
I think it’s a shark move. To me they’re both start-able & if one gets hurt, the other presumably gains value.think i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
469 touchesthink i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
I don’t hate it but I don’t love it. If that’s BPA I’ll do it. It’s a BYE-week killer, but there’s upside too.It's not always advisable or possible depending on your draft position. If you draft 2 RBs early, a WR or 2 might the next best players and then Montgomery may have been drafted. Are you willing to draft Montgomery a little early?think i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
I took Gibbs & Pacheco early (1.14, 2.01) but missed out on both Monty and Stevenson. I got Ford as my 3rd RB expecting him to be serviceable early; missed out on Chubb who went a little later. To get Monty, I would've had to sacrifice a good WR.I don’t hate it but I don’t love it. If that’s BPA I’ll do it. It’s a BYE-week killer, but there’s upside too.
That said, I had a chance to have Gibbs (2.06) & Monty, and the team 1 pick before me took Monty, so I landed Stevenson instead. I feel better for the diversity, and had them in the same tier. If they’d both made it to me I’d probably have taken Stevenson anyway.
Gibbs at 10, Montgomery if he slides to 50It's not always advisable or possible depending on your draft position. If you draft 2 RBs early, a WR or 2 might the next best players and then Montgomery may have been drafted. Are you willing to draft Montgomery a little early?think i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
Plus the points from the replacement when one of them sits469 touchesthink i'm drafting both Gibbs and Montgomery
2,393 total yards
24 TDs
That's nice production from your #1 & #2 RBs
@BobbyLayne
Is Craig Reynolds the clear backup to Gibbs & Monty or does the rookie Vaki have an honest chance to leapfrog him?
The hamstring was not a factor, but I took Henry at 2.03 over Gibbs in one league. Not my usual style but I kept visualizing all of the goal line goodness.
I was surprised I had my choice but Kelce, Allen, MHJ were the preceding 3 picks.
I had the option between them in my PPR draft and I opted for Jahmyr. I don't love the split time but I love, love, love the offensive line particularly when compared to Henry's.The hamstring was not a factor, but I took Henry at 2.03 over Gibbs in one league. Not my usual style but I kept visualizing all of the goal line goodness.
I was surprised I had my choice but Kelce, Allen, MHJ were the preceding 3 picks.
I’m a lions homer and I took Henry 1.11 and garret wilson 2.02 in a non-PPR redraft. Gibbs went a few picks later
I really wanted him this year, but in that format I just couldn’t pull the trigger
I had the option between them in my PPR draft and I opted for Jahmyr. I don't love the split time but I love, love, love the offensive line particularly when compared to Henry's.The hamstring was not a factor, but I took Henry at 2.03 over Gibbs in one league. Not my usual style but I kept visualizing all of the goal line goodness.
I was surprised I had my choice but Kelce, Allen, MHJ were the preceding 3 picks.
I’m a lions homer and I took Henry 1.11 and garret wilson 2.02 in a non-PPR redraft. Gibbs went a few picks later
I really wanted him this year, but in that format I just couldn’t pull the trigger
Gibbs also went before Henry in the FBG Home League. Gibbs RB5 @ 1.10, Saquon (me) RB6 @ 2.01, Etienne RB7 @ 2.04, Jacobs RB8 @ 2.06, Henry RB9 2.07
seems....optimisticThrough 2 games, he has 124 yards and a touchdown on 24 carries. I expect him to get at least 25 carries apiece in the next two games.
Through 2 games, he has 124 yards and a touchdown on 24 carries. I expect him to get at least 25 carries apiece in the next two games.