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RB Jahmyr Gibbs, DET (2 Viewers)
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If they trade or cut Montgomery after the season. Which is quite possible.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Montgomey is playing so well that I doubt they let him go next yr, I'll wager they keep DM until Gibbs needs his payday. Thats fine IMO, Gibbs just always looks fresh and can take it to the house any touch.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Monty will be there next year. Coaches and players love the guy and they like having that one two punch.
They could pay Monty $7M next year, or replace him at a fraction of that and save $6M in cap space to cover the huge St. Brown increase kicking in next year. What do you think was their plan when they signed that ARSB extension?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Maybe but more likely imo they sign another RB similar to Montgomery but a couple years younger.
They are apparently close to finalizing an extension with Monty.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It’s a done deal. Didn’t see it coming but hey they believe
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
2026, not next year
and if they need to free up cap in 2026 they'll do a simple restructure to give them $21M more (to be clear - on just the St Brown contract....they have a half dozen other simple restructures available if needed.
I don't think you have a very good understanding of the intentionality that has gone into constructing their cap hits
as an example, they have the best OL in the league
that comes at a cost - three first round picks invested, and all of them are (or have signed) their 2nd/3rd contract
both their guards are FA signings and they ranked in the Top Ten at their position last year (Zeitler made the pro bowl)
yet they're only 9th in positional spending for the OL, and since at least 2021, each starter has a contract expiring in a different year, e.g., they laddered the term to ensure they were never resigning or replacing more than one OL starter per year
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Lions obviously don't need to change anything but this guy's usage has been pretty disappointing, specifically in the passing game. I definitely thought he'd be getting more targets. He's not a part of it at all. But their offense is so loaded and they're just humming along so unfortunately this is how it's going to be. He's so much fun to watch out in space though.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Crazy comment. Is he even top 5?
eighsse2
Footballguy
Dan Campbell is obsessed with the middling 4.1 ypc guy.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Oh do you mean the best RB on the team?
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
With the 6+ ypc
eighsse2
Footballguy
I do not.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I wasn't referring to a one-game sample size.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Oh stop. Montgomery is a top ten RB in the league. Does everything really well.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I guess I just don't get it
I don't have very good "football eyes" as far as seeing how guys hit gaps and such, so I mostly look at yardage. He's an average NFL back as far as yardage. I just assumed he "bites kneecaps" and all that stuff, so Dan loves him.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Yeah - you don’t have good football eyesI guess I just don't get it
eighsse2
Footballguy
Pretty good number eyes though!Yeah - you don’t have good football eyesI guess I just don't get it
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Currently a top 10 PPR PPG RB. Was last year as well. Plays on one of the best offenses in the league. Is 22. What am I missing?
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Considering he’s not currently the top scoring RB on his own team, the “I don’t think it’s very close” part seems a little optimistic
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
A full time roll and lots of targets I'd start with.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Gibby will have some big games..just never know when it will happen.
Barksdale
Footballguy
Yeah, sounds like a fickle group here
eighsse2
Footballguy
12-point floor is a bust? Sure, I'm waiting for the games in the 20, 25, 30 range. Hopefully those show up here and there. But I've been fine with him so far.
Can't believe some of the comments.
Drafted as RB5-7 in most leagues, is sitting as RB10 with a PPG performance with a lot of RB's above him having missed games for injury and has done so very consistently all while possessing what most of the RB's above don't, which is contingent upside to go to the moon if Monty goes down.
And yes, I think as I have for some time he's in the conversation for dynasty RB1. I never agreed with the "it's not very close" idea, but he'd be no lower then 2 for me.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Sounds like a lot of people in here had unrealistically high expectations. Either wishcasting, or with some kind of expectation that Monty got hurt.
Yall drafted a guy in a split-backfield (this was well-known before draft day). The guy he is sharing it with is a well-known commodity in the league, and had previously led a split backfield himself on his previous team (which is to say, he's not a chump).
Dynasty is different and you're right to have him very high. But if you took him in redraft with a high RB1 expectation, I'm sorry to inform you that, congrats.....
You played yourself.
Yall drafted a guy in a split-backfield (this was well-known before draft day). The guy he is sharing it with is a well-known commodity in the league, and had previously led a split backfield himself on his previous team (which is to say, he's not a chump).
Dynasty is different and you're right to have him very high. But if you took him in redraft with a high RB1 expectation, I'm sorry to inform you that, congrats.....
You played yourself.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
psychobillies
Footballguy
Ya'll should go back and read some of this thread from October of last year. It's almost exactly the same as the posts being made now about how Gibbs was over drafted. The November/December posts were quite different.
eighsse2
Footballguy
The RB coach is named Montgomery?? If Scottie is David's dad, this would explain a lot.Lions RB coach Scottie Montgomery confirms the official nickname for Jahmyr Gibbs and David Montgomery is Sonic and Knuckles.
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I’m not sure which one is Sonic and now I’m afraid to ask
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Monty got hurt for like a month around that time last year. No guarantee that happens again.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Gibbs is RB12 in non-PPR. I'm not currently in any PPR leagues so not sure where's he's at there. BTW, don't get me started on giving a point because you caught a ball. The only thing that matters is yardage. PPR was invented back in the day to help close the gap between RBs and WRs, but it's an outdated concept. Let's not use more magic than what is already present in magic football. There's too much fantasy in fantasy football as it is. :rantover:
I've never had Gibbs rostered, but I can understand the frustration to some degree. However, it was pretty clear from the start how this was going to go down. I'm not sure how much input Campbell has with the offense (probably a lot), but there's no doubt he prefers the "knuckles" aspect of Monty's game. Am I more afraid of Gibbs as an opponent? Absolutely. Should Gibbs be getting more touches? Absolutely. That said, it's not like their offense is struggling. As long as they're putting up a lot of points, Campbell is unlikely to change the Monty 1A/Gibbs 1B formula.
I've never had Gibbs rostered, but I can understand the frustration to some degree. However, it was pretty clear from the start how this was going to go down. I'm not sure how much input Campbell has with the offense (probably a lot), but there's no doubt he prefers the "knuckles" aspect of Monty's game. Am I more afraid of Gibbs as an opponent? Absolutely. Should Gibbs be getting more touches? Absolutely. That said, it's not like their offense is struggling. As long as they're putting up a lot of points, Campbell is unlikely to change the Monty 1A/Gibbs 1B formula.
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Hopefully it motivates this Cloud of Bust like it did last year.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Agreed. I bought into the hype that he was the second coming of Marshall Faulk and the Greatest Show on Turf part 2.
I could have traded my 1.12 for a 15th rounder and drafted Chubba and been well ahead. There's a real if Swift keeps rolling that Gibbs is headed to the pine in my 1/2/1/2 flex league.
Consider me played.
zoonation
Footballguy
And he did nothing in the ff playoffs last year.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Not sure which RB you are talking about. Monty scored TDs in weeks 16 and 17 and had 10ppr points in week 15. Didn't hurt you.
Gibbs had fantastic week 15 and 16 and a quiet 17 week.
Both actually did something.
Back to Gibbs, he is out snapping Monty on the year. Some games will be better than others but both have been good this year.
Chaka
Footballguy
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Chaka
Footballguy
I mean, they are the highest scoring offense in the league ATM.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I don't know where it's all going. I've had dominant teams before with Aikmen/Emitt/Irvin/TE and Wilson/Lynch/Harvin?/Sea D. Goff/Gibbs/LaPorta/Jameson has been decent but not league winning to date.
Chaka
Footballguy
You should try Gibbs/Monty it's so good I haven't missed Jonathan Taylor.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I wanted to, but I spent my fourth and fifth to trade up for Gibbs.
May I should ask for some advice in the AsstCoach forum, but thinking about trading Lamb and Kupp when he's back for ASB and Monty.
Chaka
Footballguy
Interesting trade. I can see it from both sides. And I love the Monty/Gibbs duo.
It's a good offer but, just a bit of a cautionary tale: in 2022 I rode Jamaal Williams, D'Andre Swift, Goff & ARSB to tremendous success all year until week 16 at Carolina.
Goff threw three TDs to... Shane "###### #$#####" Zylatra.
ARSB went 7-76 & Swift/Williams combined for 11-23-0 & 3-13-0. On the season that duo combined for 2,070 yards, 60 receptions and 25 TDs.
When you stack a roster like you're planning (Goff/Gibbs/Monty/ARSB/LaPorta/Jameson) one down week can wreck your season.
I might stick with Kupp & Lamb in your situation (presuming redraft).
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I currently have Goff (my backup), Gibbs and LaPorta. Didn’t draft any of them. Dont think I want to consolidate any more, as Chaka illustrated it just increases risk. Diversity across more NFL teams spreads the risk.
But I wish I had ARSB, Jamo or Monty.
But I wish I had ARSB, Jamo or Monty.
