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RB James Conner, ARZ (1 Viewer)

Conner has a propensity to cough up the ball at the worst times.   If he doesn't improve his ball security he's going to lose carries.

 
Godsbrother said:
Conner has a propensity to cough up the ball at the worst times.   If he doesn't improve his ball security he's going to lose carries.
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Agreed, and with only 51 rushing attempts as a team through 3 games(34 to Conner), that's not a lot of opportunity to begin with.  I'm a guy who thinks they should have tried to run more early in the first couple of games.

 
James Conner rushed 10 times for 42 yards and caught all eight targets for 83 yards and one touchdown in the Steelers' 27-3, Week 4 win over the Bengals Monday night.

The Steelers came into this one 29th in rushing. Their way to combat that was to get the ball in the hands of Conner and Jaylen Samuels on a ton of short touch passes. The duo combined to catch 16 passes for 140 yards, while Samuels also scored as a runner. Conner badly needed this slump-busting outing after totaling less than 65 yards in each of the previous three contests. He and Samuels were pretty much the entire offense outside of one long touchdown from Diontae Johnson. Conner is more of an RB2 headed into Week 5 against the Ravens, but perhaps the Steelers found a new way to get the ball in their running backs' hands. Baltimore just got flamed by Nick Chubb for 183 yards and three touchdowns in Week 4.
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Was thinking about selling high.  I know it’s the Bengals.  But watching the game has me intrigued.  Steelers are now a running team utilizing wildcat, pitch, and sweep formations.  A sweep is scored as a catch.   In PPR leagues his floor just went way up.  But his ceiling went down now that it’s a timeshare.  Reminds me of the Ravens.  He’s now a RB2 with RB1 upside like tonight.  8 catches and about 4 of them came from a sweep.  The catch rate is very skewed because it’s basically a handoff.  The defense is great.  Will produce favorable field position. I might just hold to see where this goes.  And they do have a favorable run schedule.

Know what’s funny is on the flip side if Conner scores on one of those sweeps from Samuels he gets credited with the passing yards and passing TD.

 
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steelwind said:
Was thinking about selling high.  I know it’s the Bengals.  But watching the game has me intrigued.  Steelers are now a running team utilizing wildcat, pitch, and sweep formations.  A sweep is scored as a catch.   In PPR leagues his floor just went way up.  But his ceiling went down now that it’s a timeshare.  Reminds me of the Ravens.  He’s now a RB2 with RB1 upside like tonight.  8 catches and about 4 of them came from a sweep.  The catch rate is very skewed because it’s basically a handoff.  The defense is great.  Will produce favorable field position. I might just hold to see where this goes.  And they do have a favorable run schedule.

Know what’s funny is on the flip side if Conner scores on one of those sweeps from Samuels he gets credited with the passing yards and passing TD.
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Yea Conner just got a safer floor but Samuels benefits more. He’s getting more touches AND the potential for passing TDs. 

Kind of infuriating as a Conner owner. 

 
brewer said:
The wildcat wont last.  Conner is still the guy to have here by a good bit.
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Agreed. The wildcat was a gimmick to get to 1-3... DCs will prep for it now... now falls back on the arm of Rudolph and an un-proven WR corps.

 
Not a Conner owner (or seeking to own), but if ever there was a perfect "sell high" moment (for those thinking about moving him)...

 
Milkman said:
I don't think so. Jaylen Samuels looks better to me. Jaylen Samuels being on the field more is a significant risk to Conners future. 
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I haven't read through the entire thread so I'm unsure if this was already mentioned, but it's worth noting that Jaylen Samuels' position coach at NC State--Eddie Faulkner--is now his position coach with the Steelers.  I'm wondering if that has played a role thus far and may continue to...

 
I think the Steelers offense has changed dramatically now where they won't be giving one back 90% of the carries.   With Ben out they have to be more flexible and I think that played out last night.   Conner is still the main back but Samuels definitely will have a much bigger role than expected going into the season.   

One thing is that FB Rosie Nix has been out and will likely be out again next week.  Things could revert back a little when he returns.

 
biju said:
I haven't read through the entire thread so I'm unsure if this was already mentioned, but it's worth noting that Jaylen Samuels' position coach at NC State--Eddie Faulkner--is now his position coach with the Steelers.  I'm wondering if that has played a role thus far and may continue to...
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I think I posted this earlier itt but yes I was aware of it and yes I think it matters. 

 
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Milkman said:
I don't think so. Jaylen Samuels looks better to me. Jaylen Samuels being on the field more is a significant risk to Conners future. 
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Samuels is a better receiver.  He isn't close to being as good a runner.  Conner will remain the Steelers choice for the bulk of their running plays for some time and will have his share of the passing game as well.

I agree with your assessment in the Dionte Johnson thread.  He does look to be the most talented guy to me.  I strongly disagree with you here.  Samuels is definitely valuable to the Steelers but Conner is the more talented runner.

 
brewer said:
Samuels is a better receiver.  He isn't close to being as good a runner.  Conner will remain the Steelers choice for the bulk of their running plays for some time and will have his share of the passing game as well.

I agree with your assessment in the Dionte Johnson thread.  He does look to be the most talented guy to me.  I strongly disagree with you here.  Samuels is definitely valuable to the Steelers but Conner is the more talented runner.
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You can disagree brother that's your right. Think Samuel's is much more explosive. The Steelers are missing yards and points on the field everytime they give the ball to Conner instead of Samuels. They should eventually see it. When? I'm not sure. Conner also fumbling some in big spots. 

We'll see how this shakes out over the course of the season. It looks painfully obvious to me it should be the Diontae and Jaylen show. 

 
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Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said James Conner (ankle) is "still being evaluated."

Tomlin added that Conner will be limited this week and his practices will dictate his availability against the Ravens. Even if he's active, it's concerning that this is already the second time this year Conner's battled a questionable status heading into Sunday. Jury's out on whether the Steelers revert to their wildcat game plan again, but Jaylen Samuels needs to be prioritized on Tuesday's waivers (wherever available) as an every-touch option in the event Conner's deemed inactive. Samuels would be a Top 10 play if named the starter.

SOURCE: Brooke Pryor on Twitter

Oct 1, 2019, 12:13 PM ET
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biju said:
I haven't read through the entire thread so I'm unsure if this was already mentioned, but it's worth noting that Jaylen Samuels' position coach at NC State--Eddie Faulkner--is now his position coach with the Steelers.  I'm wondering if that has played a role thus far and may continue to...
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Milkman said:
I think I posted this earlier itt but yes I was aware of it and yes I think it matters. 
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What is the explanation for last week's zero touches? It does seem to me like this was a wildcat gimmick week. Then next week back to limited touches.

 
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Mark Football said:
What is the explanation for last week's zero touches? It does seem to me like this was a wildcat gimmick week. Then next week back to limited touches.
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I don't know and didn't watch either games.  Having said that, perhaps the other way to think about this is "what is the explanation for the change from week 3 to week 4"?  That answer might very well be being 0-3 and a winning game formula might not necessarily change in week 5.

If I were a Connor owner I'd be looking to buy Samuels quick while there's just one game of production.

 
Mark Football said:
What is the explanation for last week's zero touches? It does seem to me like this was a wildcat gimmick week. Then next week back to limited touches.
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Tomlin isn't a good coach is the explanation. I'm starting to feel that way so putting Jaylen back on the sideline would just reinforce that feeling. 

 
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James Conner tells @937theFan that his ankle is doing fine. Nothing torn. Confirmed that he got treatment on it. Said he could practice tomorrow.

2:21 PM - 1 Oct 2019

 
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James Conner tells @937theFan that his ankle is doing fine. Nothing torn. Confirmed that he got treatment on it. Said he could practice tomorrow.

2:21 PM - 1 Oct 2019
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Not to wish injury on players, but they tend to always be fine when I actually own the handcuff 🤣

 
James Conner (ankle) missed practice Wednesday.

As did JuJu Smith-Schuster (toe) and Vance McDonald (shoulder). Conner said in an interview with 93.7 The Fan that he would likely practice Wednesday, so perhaps this is merely a precautionary move by the training staff. The 24-year-old most recently battled a knee injury heading into Week 3 but didn't participate until Thursday (and was promptly removed from the injury report the following day). Tomorrow's practice will speak volumes for his availability.

SOURCE: Brooke Pryor on Twitter

Oct 2, 2019, 3:41 PM ET
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James Conner (ankle) resumed practicing Friday.

He was looking iffy for Sunday's game, but Friday's return should put him on track to face the Ravens in Week 5. Jaylen Samuels' emergence has undoubtedly complicated the Steelers' backfield calculus, though Conner remains the preferred fantasy option of the two. He's coming off a 125-yard breakout against the Bengals in Week 4.

SOURCE: Brooke Pryor on Twitter

Oct 4, 2019, 12:57 PM ET
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James Conner rushed 14 times for 55 yards and one touchdown in Pittsburgh's Week 5 overtime loss to the Ravens.

The good news is Conner out-carried Jaylen Samuels 14 to 5 as the Wildcat disappeared from the face of the Earth in a few days time. Conner was also the recipient of Pittsburgh's goal line touches as third-string UDFA Devlin Hodges came in for Mason Rudolph (concussion) and surprisingly marched the Steelers down the field for a 10-play, 65-yard drive capped off by Conner's one-yard scamper. Conner has RB2 value if the Wildcat stays a thing of the past, but predicting that is impossible. The Steelers may also struggle for production with Hodges under center for the foreseeable future. Those who roster Conner would be best parting ways on this high.
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Tell me how you really feel, Rotoworld.

 
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Conner looked fine, but I'm not sure why the Steelers went away from involving Samuels after they did it so successfully last week. He had the INT on his first touch and that was it - they really never went back to him with any purpose. Do they realise Samuels can be used other than in wildcat formations?

 
James Conner rushed 16 times for 41 yards and a touchdown in the Steelers' Week 6 win over the Chargers, adding seven receptions for 78 additional yards and another score.

Conner was fed the ball all night long. Still, all the touches caught up eventually, as Conner left the game with a quad injury after three quarters and didn’t return. The severity of the injury is unclear, although it’s worth noting the Steelers were already up by multiple touchdowns by the time the injury occurred. Before the injury, Conner was happy to consistently break tackles and rack up yards regardless of how he got the ball. His first touchdown was via a 12-yard burst to the end zone, while his second featured some elusive open-field running on a 26-yard screen. Conner will continue to work as the Steelers’ undisputed offensive focal point (if healthy) following their Week 7 bye.
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Maybe rename the thread guys?

 
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James Conner (quad) expects to play Week 8 against the Dolphins Monday night.

The Steelers don't have to release a practice report until Thursday, but Conner has had the bye and gets an extra day of rest to get his quad right. In a dream matchup as a significant home favorite, Conner should be locked in as an RB1 play.

SOURCE: ESPN.com

Oct 23, 2019, 11:45 AM ET
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Ilov80s said:
It’s a positive sign but they were also on bye and didn’t have to make any reports regarding health or practice participation. 
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I know in the post game of the last game where he got hurt he up doing interviews in the post game and seemed fine.  Didnt even talk about the injury.  I picked up snell cause I had space but I think connor is good to go

 
James Conner rushed 23 times for 145 yards and one touchdown in the Steelers' 27-14, Week 8 win over the Dolphins Monday night.

He "added" five yards on three catches. Conner had yet to manage a 100-yard rushing game this season coming into Monday night, but the Dolphins predictably paved the way for a breakout game. Conner's touchdown came from nine yards out in the fourth quarter where he wasn't going to be denied the end zone. The bad news is Conner looked to be injured late in the fourth quarter while handling meaningless clock-killing carries. He was body-weighted by a defender right on top of his shoulder. Upon examination on the sideline, a Steelers trainer appeared to mouth the word "clavicle" before escorting Conner to the locker room. A broken collarbone would end his season. Benny Snell was also injured in this game, hurting his knee. Jaylen Samuels (knee) is expected back in Week 9.

Oct 28, 2019, 11:33 PM ET
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Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed James Conner suffered a "shoulder, AC injury" late in the Week 8 win over the Dolphins Monday night.

Tomlin said they'll know more Tuesday. Fantasy owners are just hoping Conner avoided a dreaded broken clavicle, which would likely end Conner's season. The trainer assessing Conner on the sideline late in the fourth quarter appeared to mouth the word "clavicle" on television. Jaylen Samuels will be the top add of the week where he's available on waiver wires.

SOURCE: Alex Kozora on Twitter

Oct 28, 2019, 11:50 PM ET
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Schefter is reporting this morning that it is an AC joint separation. Remains to be seen I’d guess the severity, but quick Googling tells me the average time missed is 9.8 days but some players can play through a low grade one. So hopefully he misses one game at the worst.

 
If this one is a minor injury/one he can play through, Conner owners who don't own Samuels/Snell dodged a bullet. This guy gets nicked up a lot. I'd bet he will miss some games before the end of the year.

 
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Godsbrother said:
Yep was this way back in his Pitt days.   I don't know if it is his style of running or just plain bad luck but he gets hurt a lot.
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OK but to be fair literally EVERY SINGLE Pittsburgh RB/FB is injured 🚑 or coming off an injury.

RB: James Conner (inj), Jaylen Samuels (3RB), Benny Snell Jr. (inj)
FB: Roosevelt Nix (inj)

Conner had to take every snap once Snell went down so his injury occurred on his 23rd carry.  Snell got dinged on his 5th.

Fair is fair.

 
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