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you think? the kid is ultra rawHe is now a must have handcuff for ADP for redraft league. I am not convinced of his dynasty value yet.I drafted him purely as a cuff for ADP.
you think? the kid is ultra rawHe is now a must have handcuff for ADP for redraft league. I am not convinced of his dynasty value yet.I drafted him purely as a cuff for ADP.
You can't count on production from your late picks at all, either now or 3 years down the road. But you're certainly better off finding out what you have sooner rather than later. I don't want to have to keep a late round pick on my bench for 3 years before I discover whether or not he makes it in the NFL. I'd preferr take my chances on a guy like Isaiah Crowell than McKinnon, for strategy rather than talent. Given their situations, the former has a better chance for production this season and more likely will reveal himself by year end.Not exactly counting on a lot of production from 3rd/4th rookie picks so I'll take the guys with upside.
how so? Cromwell is 3rd stringcloppbeast said:You can't count on production from your late picks at all, either now or 3 years down the road. But you're certainly better off finding out what you have sooner rather than later. I don't want to have to keep a late round pick on my bench for 3 years before I discover whether or not he makes it in the NFL. I'd preferr take my chances on a guy like Isaiah Crowell than McKinnon, for strategy rather than talent. Given their situations, the former has a better chance for production this season and more likely will reveal himself by year end.Not exactly counting on a lot of production from 3rd/4th rookie picks so I'll take the guys with upside.
No disrespect intended against McKinnon, as I like him as a player. His situation doesn't thrill me.
What do you think is easier to overcome to start AP or Tate + West?how so? Cromwell is 3rd stringcloppbeast said:You can't count on production from your late picks at all, either now or 3 years down the road. But you're certainly better off finding out what you have sooner rather than later. I don't want to have to keep a late round pick on my bench for 3 years before I discover whether or not he makes it in the NFL. I'd preferr take my chances on a guy like Isaiah Crowell than McKinnon, for strategy rather than talent. Given their situations, the former has a better chance for production this season and more likely will reveal himself by year end.Not exactly counting on a lot of production from 3rd/4th rookie picks so I'll take the guys with upside.
No disrespect intended against McKinnon, as I like him as a player. His situation doesn't thrill me.
But it is. Tate and West are marginal talents IMHO. Crowell has the chance to shine and earn work in that backfield.Depends on if Adrian continues to prove himself as the freak that he is or he shows signs of age. Remember the people that hitched their wagon to LT until the end. If it wasn't Adrian, the easy money would be on replacing 29 year old v 2 young backs. Takes one injury & rest is history's where Crowell needs 2
They're easier to overcome and we'll know sooner whether he will do it. So as a strategy taking Crowell makes a lot of sense.But it is. Tate and West are marginal talents IMHO. Crowell has the chance to shine and earn work in that backfield.Depends on if Adrian continues to prove himself as the freak that he is or he shows signs of age. Remember the people that hitched their wagon to LT until the end. If it wasn't Adrian, the easy money would be on replacing 29 year old v 2 young backs. Takes one injury & rest is history's where Crowell needs 2
Completely understandable and if you have deep enough rosters think McKinnon is preferable to Crowell - I assumed that the know what you have discussion was based on shorter benches where there is higher opportunity cost for a roster spot.They're easier to overcome and we'll know sooner whether he will do it. So as a strategy taking Crowell makes a lot of sense.But it is. Tate and West are marginal talents IMHO. Crowell has the chance to shine and earn work in that backfield.Depends on if Adrian continues to prove himself as the freak that he is or he shows signs of age. Remember the people that hitched their wagon to LT until the end. If it wasn't Adrian, the easy money would be on replacing 29 year old v 2 young backs. Takes one injury & rest is history's where Crowell needs 2
But in deep leagues, I'll still take the guy I think is more likely to contribute.
I got McKinnon basically as a throw-in when I had AD. I then traded AD and still have McKinnon. I'll hang onto him unless a nice offer comes my way. (deep league though and there's room on my taxi squad)
Jerick McKinnon - RB - Vikings
According to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, "it seems like every day" rookie RB Jerick McKinnon Jerick McKinnon grabs your attention with his athleticism."
The top-100 pick reportedly made a sweet juke on a swing pass in Wednesday's practice to elude CB Kendall James before planting his foot in the ground and "shooting into the secondary." McKinnon is an interesting Dynasty prospect with 4.41 jets, a highly explosive 11-foot broad jump, and a 40 1/2-inch vertical at 5-foot-9, 209. There's a chance he's Adrian Peterson's heir apparent.
Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Jul 30 - 8:09 PM
Hard to move the needle much at this point, since I'd guess 90% of rookie drafts are done.Given all the glowing reports thus far, I'm really surprised we aren't seeing his rookie draft ADP come up (same with James White in New England).
Running back Jerick McKinnon made a handful of impressive catches on a day where Vikings quarterbacks struggled with their accuracy; he caught a low pass from Bridgewater, and bailed out the quarterback on his final throw of the day by making a one-handed grab on a ball that was behind him. McKinnon is new to catching passes, but he's not new to handling the ball; he was a quarterback in college, and it seems like that experience has given him surer hands as he begins his NFL career as a running back.
He's going to see little to no work this year save a AD injury.I guess there's a small possiblity he could end up in some kind of time share like I'm anticipating is going to happen in Seattle this year. I'd be shocked if it happened this year though. McKinnon is super raw.
Eh, I think McKinnon would beat out Asiata easily. Asiata is nothing special by any means.Yeah i agree with that. Even if there is an AP injury we could be looking at a RBBC this year.
Perhaps you should wait for a few of these guys to do something in a real NFL game before you go parading through every thread?There must be some mistake This is a talentless pedestrian RB class...
No need to...Perhaps you should wait for a few of these guys to do something in a real NFL game before you go parading through every thread?There must be some mistake This is a talentless pedestrian RB class...
It looked fine last night.He's struggled in camp with pass pro. Plus he's learning a new position so it wouldn't surprise me if he shared carries. He's awesome though.
I don't agree here either. I fully believe this is Peterson's last year with the Vikings. In 2015 he'll have a 15.4 million dollar cap number. I've read rumors that Peterson would be shopped if they struggle again, and I don't care if it's Peterson, I don't think you pay a 30 year old back QB Money.Yeah he's a special athlete. He's just stuck behind the GOAT. 2-3 year wait unless AP gets hurt.
If they were to move on from Peterson, they'd save 13 million in cap space.I don't agree here either. I fully believe this is Peterson's last year with the Vikings. In 2015 he'll have a 15.4 million dollar cap number. I've read rumors that Peterson would be shopped if they struggle again, and I don't care if it's Peterson, I don't think you pay a 30 year old back QB Money.Yeah he's a special athlete. He's just stuck behind the GOAT. 2-3 year wait unless AP gets hurt.
Trade him during the season to the colts.I don't agree here either. I fully believe this is Peterson's last year with the Vikings. In 2015 he'll have a 15.4 million dollar cap number. I've read rumors that Peterson would be shopped if they struggle again, and I don't care if it's Peterson, I don't think you pay a 30 year old back QB Money.Yeah he's a special athlete. He's just stuck behind the GOAT. 2-3 year wait unless AP gets hurt.
I have to think if AP were to go down this season that neither of these guys would carry the full load anyway so you might as well go with the guy who has a higher upside. I'm of the opinion McKinnon will end up as the starting back, possibly as soon as 2015 if Peterson's contract becomes an issue for MIN.As an ADP owner in a contract dynasty league with a hard cap, I drafted both Asiata and this kid yesterday but I only have room for one. I was thinking of stowing the safer bet in being the backup of Asiata thinking I could probably get this guy next year and save some cap dollars as a 3rd rd pick makes more than the league minimum and he would make the minimum next year if he scored less than 50 pts this year. But with the age of ADP, and I realize he is a freak of nature and wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was putting up 1400 yards on the ground at 32, I'm leaning toward rostering this guy. I want to see what happens in preseason game #3, but at this point I'm thinking of rostering him...
Holy schmidt, that site is positively unreadable for all the instrusive banner ads...Vikings' Jerick McKinnon is rushing star, for starters:
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26305318/vikings-jerick-mckinnon-is-rushing-star-starters
The question is, can he be a starter or is he really only a COP?Vikings' Jerick McKinnon is rushing star, for starters:
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26305318/vikings-jerick-mckinnon-is-rushing-star-starters
About the same size as Rice and Tiki and bigger than players like Charles, Bush and C Johnson. And with mind-blowing measurables.The question is, can he be a starter or is he really only a COP?Vikings' Jerick McKinnon is rushing star, for starters:
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26305318/vikings-jerick-mckinnon-is-rushing-star-starters
Only one game, but the FL tape was pretty impressive IMO.I'm a buyer of this kid but need to see a LOT more. His college offense (and competition) make it very difficult to gage his running style and instincts IMO. Love the measurables and athlete, like what I'm hearing and seeing (in limited action) but still very wary.
I got him at the end of the 2nd round of a 10 team contract dynasty league. 2.8 or 2.9 (I had both). I took Asiata with the other of those two picks. I had the 1.3 and 1.9 as well and 3 roster spots to fill. Sammy Watkins, Zack Ertz and this kid. So after I drafted these two, my draft was over. I still picked up a couple more players but these are the three I'm keeping (I think).Also - landed him at 2.11 in a 16-team start 2 RB league... as an example for those asking about his price. Didn't want to risk losing him.