RB Jerick McKinnon, KC (2 Viewers)

[amnesiac]

His owners in dynasty like him more than Crowell?

at the moment or long term?right now i like McKinnon more.

long term i might give a slight edge to Crow, but they're pretty close imo.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I don't do rankings really, but if I did McKinnon would be in my top 10 RBs. Maybe top 5.

Elite measurables, excellent draft position, clean starter as a 22 year old rookie despite coming from a small school and switching positions, and excellent initial on-field production is pretty much as good as it gets IMO.

 

[jtd13]

His owners in dynasty like him more than Crowell?

I traded him last week for Crowell because I like Crowell long term just a bit more and I have Tate. If I didn't have Tate id have held onto mckinnon.

 

[jurb26]

Rolling the dice today and starting this guy over Ingram. I really like the usage he's gotten the past few weeks.

 

[Don Quixote]

His owners in dynasty like him more than Crowell?

I own both in one league. I'd be more willing to trade Crowell than McKinnon.

 

[CR69]

For dynasty owners, what would it take for you to sell him? I saw someone already mention a top 5 rookie pick.

A few weeks ago I would have traded Asiata/McKinnon for a 1st, now I'd trade Asiata for a sandwich but don't think I'd let go of McKinnon unless someone really overpaid. It would take at least a top 5 1st for me to even consider it.

 

[CataclysmicThunder]

For dynasty owners, what would it take for you to sell him? I saw someone already mention a top 5 rookie pick.

I traded Josh Gordon and Christine Michaels for McKinnon in a Dynasty league. I undoubtedly overpaid to get him, but I think it's undeniable that his upside is staggering (the owner told me that he barely, grudgingly accepted the offer, as he too is a huge McKinnon believer, but an even bigger fan of Gordon). Based on his rare measurables and great situation, McKinnon should quickly ascend to top 5 dynasty RB1 status. Here's to hoping.

 

[biju]

For dynasty owners, what would it take for you to sell him? I saw someone already mention a top 5 rookie pick.

A few weeks ago I would have traded Asiata/McKinnon for a 1st, now I'd trade Asiata for a sandwich but don't think I'd let go of McKinnon unless someone really overpaid. It would take at least a top 5 1st for me to even consider it.

I was offered a pick that will be in the 8-10 range and didn't take it FWIW.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jerick McKinnon - RB - Vikings

Vikings coach Mike Zimmer insisted the team will continue using two backs, saying they did not want to get Jerick McKinnon "beat up."

McKinnon has a good matchup against a Washington defense that gave up 166 yards on the ground to Dallas last week, but it is becoming clear Zimmer wants to keep him in the 15-carry per game range. That limits McKinnon's upside somewhat, but he is still an explosive runner with a ton of potential. He is a solid RB2 this week.

Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

Nov 1 - 2:11 PM

Vikings' Jerick McKinnon putting up Adrian Peterson-like numbers ... so far

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26839315/vikings-david-yankey-must-get-stronger-if-he%22%20class=%22listingArticleLinkTo%22%3E%20%3Ca%20href=%22http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_26838174/viking

 

[John Paul]

I traded him in dyno and maneuvered some picks that led to me getting Patterson and Latimer. Have spent a lot of 2014 replenishing my WR corps, McKinnon helped. I like him long term and would've kept him with no qualms, just had bigger needs at WR.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

McKinnon just isn't ever going to get those goal line carries, will he.

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

Disappointed owner here. For those that watched the game, what was the deal with Asiata getting 3 TDs? Did McKinnon try and call to run them in our war that now the offense was run?

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

What the f. what I meant to ask was, did he try and fail to run them in or was that how the offense was run?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Disappointed owner here. For those that watched the game, what was the deal with Asiata getting 3 TDs? Did McKinnon try and call to run them in our war that now the offense was run?

The drive I saw was at the end. Mckinnon was the back for the whole drive and he took them to the 10, looked good. Then first down to around or inside the 5, then it was Asiata three straight times for the TD.

 

[Football Jones]

McKinnon is one of the league leaders in YPC on a struggling offense with an inferior OL. Immense potential. He reminds me of Brian Westbrook, but he's a stronger runner.

He's a freak athletically. The thing that separates him from some similar RBs is he's strong enough to be a GL back. 208 pounds of solid muscle. Incredibly strong (put up 32 reps on the bench). He's a much better prospect than some similar RBs like Andre Ellington & Denard Robinson. He's also only scratched the surface of his potential as a receiver. McKinnon has feature back written all over him.

Be patient with the TDs. Asiata is just a guy & Zimmer has stated they aren't going to overwork McKinnon this season. They aren't going anywhere this year & McKinnon is just now learning the RB position after switching from QB in his senior season at Georgia Southern.

 

[mnmplayer]

He's outperformed almost all expectations. I remember Bloom had a Minn "insider" on his show early in the season and he absolutely said McKinnon would NOT be the starter this year and it was all Asiata's gig. At most he would be a COP. I feels like its bad luck he hasn't had a TD yet. He came within inches of one in the prior 3 TD Asiata game. Speaking of Asiata, what other RB has 3 games with 3 TDs in their career let alone an 11 game stretch? He has 3 3TD games in his last 11 games which is even less than a full season's work back in the 14 and 12 game season days LOL. I have to think that next year some of these will go to McKinnon.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

McKinnon is one of the league leaders in YPC on a struggling offense with an inferior OL. Immense potential. He reminds me of Brian Westbrook, but he's a stronger runner.

He's a freak athletically. The thing that separates him from some similar RBs is he's strong enough to be a GL back. 208 pounds of solid muscle. Incredibly strong (put up 32 reps on the bench). He's a much better prospect than some similar RBs like Andre Ellington & Denard Robinson. He's also only scratched the surface of his potential as a receiver. McKinnon has feature back written all over him.

Be patient with the TDs. Asiata is just a guy & Zimmer has stated they aren't going to overwork McKinnon this season. They aren't going anywhere this year & McKinnon is just now learning the RB position after switching from QB in his senior season at Georgia Southern.

This reminds me of Ellington last year (someone else may have said this...) if he is going to score it is going to have top be from 5+ yards out. It's frustrating and it's hard to imagine it's actually good for the Vikes....

 

[SameSongNDance]

He's outperformed almost all expectations. I remember Bloom had a Minn "insider" on his show early in the season and he absolutely said McKinnon would NOT be the starter this year and it was all Asiata's gig. At most he would be a COP. I feels like its bad luck he hasn't had a TD yet. He came within inches of one in the prior 3 TD Asiata game. Speaking of Asiata, what other RB has 3 games with 3 TDs in their career let alone an 11 game stretch? He has 3 3TD games in his last 11 games which is even less than a full season's work back in the 14 and 12 game season days LOL. I have to think that next year some of these will go to McKinnon.

I'm going to go ahead and say no one has amassed that many in such a short span. I remember realizing how rare the two 3 TD games were when doing research earlier in the year so this must some type of record. Also, the percentage of MIN's points Asiata has accounted for this year is quite anomalous. Odd stuff.

 

[BigJim®]

Definitely bad luck that McKinnon got tackled inside the 1 yesterday. I continue to be very impressed with what I see of McKinnon and think he is slowly but surely cementing a significant role in Turner's offense. He is showing great power (yards after contact) and elusiveness in the opportunities he's getting. I noticed him doing a good job in pass protection situations as well. In time, I really feel McKinnon will either (a) start housing longer runs for TDs, or (2) show enough power where he'll share short distance. Asiata failed to convert a 3rd and 1 yesterday after McKinnon began the drive with 5 and 4 yard runs. That can only happen so many times before the staff will question the logic in bringing in a bruiser when they have an option producing at 5.0 per run. There was a similar fullback option plunge that failed last week on 3rd and inches. To me, McKinnon is a ideal 3rd and 1 RB, who can perhaps house such a run if he can get past line of scrimmage.

 

[Jack White]

McKinnon is one of the league leaders in YPC on a struggling offense with an inferior OL. Immense potential. He reminds me of Brian Westbrook, but he's a stronger runner.

He's a freak athletically. The thing that separates him from some similar RBs is he's strong enough to be a GL back. 208 pounds of solid muscle. Incredibly strong (put up 32 reps on the bench). He's a much better prospect than some similar RBs like Andre Ellington & Denard Robinson. He's also only scratched the surface of his potential as a receiver. McKinnon has feature back written all over him.

Be patient with the TDs. Asiata is just a guy & Zimmer has stated they aren't going to overwork McKinnon this season. They aren't going anywhere this year & McKinnon is just now learning the RB position after switching from QB in his senior season at Georgia Southern.

Great post.

Frustrating now, but I'm fairly certain he'll be a keeper for me next year, and I'm excited about it. I think he'll be an RB1 or mid-2 in redrafts next year.

And there's still plenty of time for him to have a fantasy explosion this year, too.

 

[socrates]

He's outperformed almost all expectations. I remember Bloom had a Minn "insider" on his show early in the season and he absolutely said McKinnon would NOT be the starter this year and it was all Asiata's gig. At most he would be a COP. I feels like its bad luck he hasn't had a TD yet. He came within inches of one in the prior 3 TD Asiata game. Speaking of Asiata, what other RB has 3 games with 3 TDs in their career let alone an 11 game stretch? He has 3 3TD games in his last 11 games which is even less than a full season's work back in the 14 and 12 game season days LOL. I have to think that next year some of these will go to McKinnon.

Bloom's insider touted Joe Banyard as the guy to grab over McKinnon. I did not buy it at the time (I bought on McKinnon), and the "insider information" turned out to be bad information.

I still believe we have only scratched the surface of McKinnon's potential. McKinnon's role is likely to grow in the future, but for the immediate future Asiata has given the Vikings no reason to alter his role at the GL.

McKinnon has not busted out the occasional long runs I expected he would. He is very explosive, has shown he can shed the first tackler, and with his homerun speed, we could see some 40+ yard runs to paydirt from McKinnon.

 

[mikel0254]

Definitely bad luck that McKinnon got tackled inside the 1 yesterday. I continue to be very impressed with what I see of McKinnon and think he is slowly but surely cementing a significant role in Turner's offense. He is showing great power (yards after contact) and elusiveness in the opportunities he's getting. I noticed him doing a good job in pass protection situations as well. In time, I really feel McKinnon will either (a) start housing longer runs for TDs, or (2) show enough power where he'll share short distance. Asiata failed to convert a 3rd and 1 yesterday after McKinnon began the drive with 5 and 4 yard runs. That can only happen so many times before the staff will question the logic in bringing in a bruiser when they have an option producing at 5.0 per run. There was a similar fullback option plunge that failed last week on 3rd and inches. To me, McKinnon is a ideal 3rd and 1 RB, who can perhaps house such a run if he can get past line of scrimmage.

One encouraging sign yesterday was McKinnon getting the carries to run out the clock. They obviously trust him to hold on to the ball in an important situation where the defense is keying up to stop the run/strip the ball. I just think it's a matter of time before they start using him in short yardage situations. He's been pulled at the GL so far, but at least he's playing most of the Red Zone snaps. His TD's will come, even if they have to come from 5/10 yards out as opposed to from the 1 or 2.

 

[mikel0254]

Well if we didn't need anymore discouraging signs for McKinnon, the possible reinstatement of AP isn't helping matters.

 

[shader]

In dynasty hop all over McKinnon if AP comes back. I don't see AP playing for Minnesota next year.

 

[petenice15]

Nothing is garunteed that AP is coming back. Even if he does, McKinnon has proven enough that he could be their future, considering APs tremendous cap number next year. The next few weeks certainly will be interesting in Minn

 

[Onions]

This is your opportunity to buy low on McKinnon in dynasty.

 

[mnmplayer]

Minnesota Vikings RB Jerick McKinnon (back) was limited in practice Thursday, Nov. 13. Got an alert he was questionable. Coming off a bye week this is slightly concerning.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Vikings OC Norv Turner insists Jerick McKinnon is still the team's top back despite the addition of Ben Tate.

"Were excited about Jerick and what hes done and I see him as our running back," Norval said. According to Turner, Tate is just an "insurance" policy with McKinnon battling a minor back injury and Matt Asiata (concussion) unlikely for Week 12. If Tate is going to threaten McKinnon's No. 1 status, it's not going to be in Week 12 with just four days to learn the playbook. McKinnon will be a boom-or-bust RB2 against the Packers. He returned to practice on Thursday.

Related: Ben Tate, Matt Asiata

Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

Nov 20 - 1:29 PM

 

[Faust]

Vikings RB Jerick McKinnon says he won't play Sunday against Panthers

 

[Air Stich]

So McKinnon is officially cuttable in redraft then?

 

[flapgreen]

Hell yeah

 

[SCT]

So McKinnon is officially cuttable in redraft then?

Hell yeah

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-rb.php

:whoosh:

 

[Jack White]

Cuttable for whom?

 

[Donnybrook]

So McKinnon is officially cuttable in redraft then?

Hell yeah

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-rb.php :whoosh:

Benny Cunningham at 52 in a PPR ranking is just stupid.Edit to add: I have been starting Benny over Doug Martin and will continue to do so.

 

[Air Stich]

Cuttable for whom?

WR Charles Johnson or a Playoff Defense?

Someone who's more likely to crack my lineup.

 

[flapgreen]

Screw this guy

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Vikings reporter Ben Goessling thinks the team believes Jerick McKinnon can be their primary running back in the future.

McKinnon has six games with double-digit carries this season and is averaging 16 touches a game since establishing himself as the lead back Week 4. With Adrian Peterson likely finished in Minnesota, there is little reason McKinnon will not have a similar role in the Vikings' offense for the foreseeable future. He is an excellent hold in Dynasty formats.

Source: ESPN.com
Dec 6 - 12:12 PM

 

[Steed]

Headed to IR

@ArifHasanNFL: DAMMIT RT @Vikings: The #Vikings have placed RB Jerick McKinnon on Injured Reserve: http://t.co/7IspMuoPrB

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Headed to IR

@ArifHasanNFL: DAMMIT RT @Vikings: The #Vikings have placed RB Jerick McKinnon on Injured Reserve: http://t.co/7IspMuoPrB

Sucks for the kid; apparently the back issues more serious than we thought.

Though, if Peyton Manning can come back off multiple back surgeries to be the NFL's Gandalf the White, I'm optimistic about the recovery prospects for a 22-year-old physical freak.

If you haven't already bought low in dynasty, this one-time-only offer has just been extended a few more weeks.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jerick McKinnon - RB - Vikings

The lower back injury that ended Jerick McKinnon's rookie year in early December required surgery.

He is "a couple weeks" from completing his rehab. McKinnon says he'll be ready to participate fully when the Vikings' offseason workout program begins on April 20. After a promising rookie season, McKinnon's 2015 role is unclear. He could operate as a change-of-pace back if Adrian Peterson returns. If the Vikings decide they can't keep Peterson at his $15.4 million cap number, McKinnon would become the front-runner for Minnesota's starting job.

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

Feb 15 - 10:18 PM

 

[Biabreakable]

Revisiting the 2014 NFL Scouting Combine: Jerick McKinnon Sprints Past Competition

 

[Biabreakable]

2014 Minnesota Vikings: Updating Our Scouting Report on Jerick McKinnon

 

[FUBAR]

He's outperformed almost all expectations. I remember Bloom had a Minn "insider" on his show early in the season and he absolutely said McKinnon would NOT be the starter this year and it was all Asiata's gig. At most he would be a COP. I feels like its bad luck he hasn't had a TD yet. He came within inches of one in the prior 3 TD Asiata game. Speaking of Asiata, what other RB has 3 games with 3 TDs in their career let alone an 11 game stretch? He has 3 3TD games in his last 11 games which is even less than a full season's work back in the 14 and 12 game season days LOL. I have to think that next year some of these will go to McKinnon.

I'm going to go ahead and say no one has amassed that many in such a short span. I remember realizing how rare the two 3 TD games were when doing research earlier in the year so this must some type of record. Also, the percentage of MIN's points Asiata has accounted for this year is quite anomalous. Odd stuff.

Most games, 3 or more touchdowns, career: 14, Jim Brown, 19571965; Jerry Rice, 19862001

Most games, 3 or more touchdowns, season: 6, LaDainian Tomlinson, 2006

Most games, 4 or more touchdowns, career: 6, Jim Brown, 19571959 19611962 1965

Most games, 4 or more touchdowns, season: 3, Marshall Faulk, 2000; LaDainian Tomlinson, 2006

good company.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jerick McKinnon - RB - Vikings

Jerick McKinnon has "fully recovered" from his December back surgery.

He's resumed football activities, training this offseason with teammates like Kyle Rudolph and Charles Johnson. Rudolph specifically praised McKinnon's work ethic. McKinnon will become a prime breakout candidate if the Vikings move on from Adrian Peterson. We'll monitor the 23-year-old closely all year.

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

Mar 20 - 1:14 AM

 

[RBM]

I think McKinnon is undervalued right now and is one of this offseason's best acquisition targets. As an example...Using DLF March ADP Hyde was picked at RB8 and McKinnon was RB24. If I could get McKinnon plus the value delta between rb24 and rb8 for Hyde....I would probably hurt myself due to moving so fast to hit the trade button..

WTF

Please tell me that's not a real thing now in FF

 

[RBM]

I think McKinnon is undervalued right now and is one of this offseason's best acquisition targets. As an example...Using DLF March ADP Hyde was picked at RB8 and McKinnon was RB24. If I could get McKinnon plus the value delta between rb24 and rb8 for Hyde....I would probably hurt myself due to moving so fast to hit the trade button..

WTF

Please tell me that's not a real thing now in FF

The term value delta or what it means? How can a difference in value not be a real thing in FF?

As a regular FF term

 

[FUBAR]

I think McKinnon is undervalued right now and is one of this offseason's best acquisition targets. As an example...Using DLF March ADP Hyde was picked at RB8 and McKinnon was RB24. If I could get McKinnon plus the value delta between rb24 and rb8 for Hyde....I would probably hurt myself due to moving so fast to hit the trade button..

WTF

Please tell me that's not a real thing now in FF

The term value delta or what it means? How can a difference in value not be a real thing in FF?

As a regular FF term

haven't heard the term but it makes complete sense and his point is easy to understand.

 

[Zyphros]

It's looking more and more likely that AP isn't going to be back with the Vikings. So how high do we view McKinnon as a lead dog? Can he even be a lead back? He sure has the athleticism for it, and his rookie season was pretty nice with flashes. 4.8 YPC on 113 attempts is not the largest sample size, but I think it's enough to at least project him as a good RBBC guy for this year.

 

[FUBAR]

It's looking more and more likely that AP isn't going to be back with the Vikings. So how high do we view McKinnon as a lead dog? Can he even be a lead back? He sure has the athleticism for it, and his rookie season was pretty nice with flashes. 4.8 YPC on 113 attempts is not the largest sample size, but I think it's enough to at least project him as a good RBBC guy for this year.

I see McKinnon putting up Gio Bernard type numbers. In my ppr league Gio avg ppg was rb10 (lower on total points due to playing only 13 games) Project Gio over 16 and he would have had 206 carries and 53 touches. That is almost exactly what I expect from McKinnon this yr.

Gio averaged 4.0 per carry and 8.1 per catch. McKinnon averaged 4.8 and 5.0. Clearly McKinnon needs to improve his yards per catch, but that isn't hard to imagine with his athletic ability. He should be great in space and clearly showed some of that skill with 4.8 per carry

Having Wallace to spread the field and Teddy's development will help his YPC.

I expect JM to be the lead back but I think Gio's 2014 is a floor if he's healthy. (Assuming AD is not a Viking)

 

[voiceofunreason]

It's looking more and more likely that AP isn't going to be back with the Vikings. So how high do we view McKinnon as a lead dog? Can he even be a lead back? He sure has the athleticism for it, and his rookie season was pretty nice with flashes. 4.8 YPC on 113 attempts is not the largest sample size, but I think it's enough to at least project him as a good RBBC guy for this year.

I see McKinnon putting up Gio Bernard type numbers. In my ppr league Gio avg ppg was rb10 (lower on total points due to playing only 13 games) Project Gio over 16 and he would have had 206 carries and 53 touches. That is almost exactly what I expect from McKinnon this yr.

Gio averaged 4.0 per carry and 8.1 per catch. McKinnon averaged 4.8 and 5.0. Clearly McKinnon needs to improve his yards per catch, but that isn't hard to imagine with his athletic ability. He should be great in space and clearly showed some of that skill with 4.8 per carry

I see this comparison a lot but the two have little in common other than height. McKinnon is a much better runner and athlete than Gio. He also doesn't have the receiving skills that Bernard has. He may gain them in time but he's very raw as a receiver still. Gio is really a Sproles type back whereas I believe McKinnon is effective on early downs and could turn into a 3 down back.