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RB Joe Mixon, HOU (1 Viewer)

Let's hope you're right. If not, my email box will be fun tomorrow. 


Right or wrong, I won't be one emailing you.  But Matchup Dominator now has Mixon ahead of Swift in my scoring system (thanks to your team for continuing to update through the morning!), and the email commentary you just sent out, quoting "close to normal workload" is enough for me.

FWIW I'm always worried about Swift's touch share, especially after last week, so that played a part in the decision.

 
I'm leaning towards starting Mixon over Chase Edmonds or Conner. FBG has Edmonds rated higher,  but I like Mixon being active and not having to decide between those guys prior to 4pm.  :shrug:

 
top dog said:
I'm leaning towards starting Mixon over Chase Edmonds or Conner. FBG has Edmonds rated higher,  but I like Mixon being active and not having to decide between those guys prior to 4pm.  :shrug:
I like Connor

 
I sat him... besides the potential for diminished effectiveness due to his injury, there's reinjury potential and negative game script potential against GB.

The only reason I had to give it some extra thought was FBG's high ranking of Mixon.

 
Joe Mixon rushed 10 times for 33 yards and one score, hauling in his only target for two yards in Cincinnati's Week 5 loss to Green Bay.

Mixon, surprisingly active after failing to practice until Saturday, got the start and played on the team's first two snaps before being relieved by Samaje Perine (11/59). The latter put the Bengals on the board first with a four-yard touchdown catch over Mixon, who responded with a 10-yard run and eventually, a bouncy eight-yard rushing touchdown to close the gap 22-20. Mixon, clearly struggling through injury, was ultimately out-snapped 41-19 by Perine on the afternoon. Mixon will be a tough sell as a high-end RB2 in Week 6 against the Lions if he fails to practice leading up to that game.

Oct 10, 2021, 6:03 PM ET

 
THAT was a nice run


Yes it was. Not sure where the one random take got their idea "clearly struggling through injury". He didn't look 100% on some plays but on the TD later in the game looked fantastic. For the most part, I'd ask folks post their own takes here. Thanks. 

 
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Yes it was. Not sure where the one random take got their idea "clearly struggling through injury". He didn't look 100% on some plays but on the TD later in the game looked fantastic. For the most part, I'd ask folks post their own takes here. Thanks. 
I am out of market. Can someone post genuine thoughts. I have one share. And to be honest I’ve tried shopping him. But no takers. 

 
someone in one of my leagues got pissed at him last week...he dropped him saturday night and I was able to snag him for half my bidding bucks on Sunday. 

 
someone in one of my leagues got pissed at him last week...he dropped him saturday night and I was able to snag him for half my bidding bucks on Sunday. 
He got mad at Mixon for having a mild ankle sprain that didn't even cause him to miss a full game and dropped him? 

Weird way to manage, but congrats on getting a quality RB giving up only imaginary $. lol 

 
Sasgaard said:
someone in one of my leagues got pissed at him last week...he dropped him saturday night and I was able to snag him for half my bidding bucks on Sunday. 


 Thats a straight heist.   (and the disgruntled owner is probably a moron)

  :excited:

 
Hoh said:
I thought this was supposed to be a strength of his coming out of school.  What gives?


No idea, it's bewildering.  He actually played with Perine in college at OU and Mixon was the receiving back in that split.

I've owned this guy his whole career now in my main dynasty league and I still don't see the standout talent everyone else does.  For all the blaming of the Bengals' team over the years he doesn't look that different from Perine or (in prior years) Bernard to me when they're back there.

 
Hoh said:
I thought this was supposed to be a strength of his coming out of school.  What gives?
Sounds like 1 writer’s hot take.

pretty much everyone said he’d be limited on Sunday, so I’m not sure it’s a revelation or anything definitive that he lost touches. 

Rotoworld proclaimed he “lost receiving duties” in today’s update. 

Uh, yeah - he was limited in touches nursing an ankle sprain. Maybe, and I know this is crazy talk, this week isn’t the best sample size to make sweeping judgements about. 

Let’s see how things go with Mixon at 100% moving forward. I’m sure Perine & Evans will continue to be sprinkled in, but I am not convinced that Week 5 represents an accurate picture of the backfield split ROS. 

 
Perine on COVID list, Bengals playing Detroit, feels like the Mixon resurgence could be on in week 6. 
That would definitely help. Evans will likely continue to siphon a few targets here and there. Not shocking. He’s on the  roster, so they probably want to use him. 

 
Joe Bryant said:
No takers for Joe Mixon?

What are you asking?
I wanted a first and a second round for next years draft. No countering action. There are very few trades in that league though. Or it could be I asked for too much? 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
He got mad at Mixon for having a mild ankle sprain that didn't even cause him to miss a full game and dropped him? 

Weird way to manage, but congrats on getting a quality RB giving up only imaginary $. lol 
yeah, a good owner too....a guy who has been playing for a long time. He had a really bad week I think and lost his sh....at the end of it which ended with the release of Mixon....LOL. Not sure what happened....really weird from him. 

 
I wanted a first and a second round for next years draft. No countering action. There are very few trades in that league though. Or it could be I asked for too much? 


Yeah, every league is different but that sounds like a lot. We'll have a new version out tomorrow with our Rest Of Season rankings. 

 
Sounds like 1 writer’s hot take.

pretty much everyone said he’d be limited on Sunday, so I’m not sure it’s a revelation or anything definitive that he lost touches. 

Rotoworld proclaimed he “lost receiving duties” in today’s update. 

Uh, yeah - he was limited in touches nursing an ankle sprain. Maybe, and I know this is crazy talk, this week isn’t the best sample size to make sweeping judgements about. 

Let’s see how things go with Mixon at 100% moving forward. I’m sure Perine & Evans will continue to be sprinkled in, but I am not convinced that Week 5 represents an accurate picture of the backfield split ROS. 


I think it's still worth wondering why his receiving usage/production has been so poor in the NFL when it was supposed to probably be his biggest strength coming into the league.

Mixon hasn't had more than 40 yards receiving in a game since November 2018  :shock:

 
I think it's still worth wondering why his receiving usage/production has been so poor in the NFL when it was supposed to probably be his biggest strength coming into the league.

Mixon hasn't had more than 40 yards receiving in a game since November 2018  :shock:
Gio Bernard was better. This year I have no clue why they pull him for Perine.

 
Mixon was not just a receiving back at OU.  He was just much better at it than the other backs. He was great between the tackles too.  I am puzzled myself because he’s a three down NFL back and can do it all.  Perhaps his injury history is causing his leadership to limit his reps.

 
Mixon was not just a receiving back at OU.  He was just much better at it than the other backs. He was great between the tackles too.  I am puzzled myself because he’s a three down NFL back and can do it all.  Perhaps his injury history is causing his leadership to limit his reps.
That's what my guess is. Maybe Perine is adequate enough at it that they decide to give Mixon rest on 3rd downs and passing situations. 

 
 I don't think we can blame Mixon himself for his "limited" receiving duties. (Well maybe if you want to chalk some of that up to injury perhaps)

 Now I'm not exactly a Bengals fan, but I have had Mixon on and off in fantasy the last few years.

 Has he really had great QB-ing at the pro level? (I think Dalton was the QB there in 2018 and 2019, Mixon was there both years)  Let's not go out on a limb and say Dalton was a check down (to RB) master, and I'm of the opinion that Burrow is still easing his way in to being a solid QB. His season was cut short last year remember....?

Above all this, I'd be willing to bet that it is partially poor play calling, and also part wanting to use a bit of a committee at RB, remember Bernard was used heavily at times. (and then very rarely at others)

 Just because we as fantasy owners want to see a guy become an outright workhorse, do it all and lead us to championships, doesn't mean the coaches want the same thing.

 His rushing attempts this season have been 29, 20, 18,16 and 10 this last week when he was injured. His receptions have been 4, 1, 1 , 1 and 1 this week.  No matter how you shake it, thats A LOT of touches in this injury riddled season. (and it was most certainly less this week because he was gimpy also)

Would I like to see Mixon give me a few more receptions each week?  Sure.

 But I'm also just happy to have a guy getting this many touches overall. It seems like there are fewer and fewer of these guys every year.

Hopefully he will be primed and ready to go off this week vs DETROIT , and he also gets the JETS in week 8.  If he stays healthy, he has some big days coming.

 TZM

 
Hoh said:
I thought this was supposed to be a strength of his coming out of school.  What gives?
As others have said, Perine out-received him largely due to his coming back from injury and clearly on a snap count.

In the first 4 games, Mixon had 9 targets, Perine had 4. 

Also, I wouldn't say Mixon has not been used significantly in the passing game in his pro career so far. If you measure by targets vs rushing attempts, he's pretty middling. But I know, I'd like to see him well above-average. And I am hopefully optimistic (i.e., stupid) that will still develop.

 
adding to TZMarkie's post above, if you are thinking that Cinci as a team is not passing enough to its backs, then sure, that's a matter of opinion on play calling. but if you're saying they are not passing enough to Mixon and instead passing to someone else because of any concerns about his abilities, you may be chasing a perception mirage.

  • 2017 Gio 60 targes in 16 games, Mixon 34 targets in 14 games. Gio was #16 in RB targets for the season and was already an established receiving back with Mixon coming in as a rookie.
  • 2018 Mixon 55 targets in 14 games, Gio 48 targets in 12 games. Mixon was #18 in RB targets for the season.
  • 2019 Mixon 45 targets in 16 games, Gio 43 targets in 16 games. Roughly #28 and #30 for these guys, respectively, in RB targets for the season.
  • 2020 Gio 59 targets in 16 games, Mixon 26 targets in 6 games, enter Smaje with 26 targets in 11 games without Mixon.
his usage sans injury looks pretty much like what we would expect on this team. someone already mentioned it, Gio's presence maybe limited the opportunities before this year, I don't think Perine will have nearly the same impact. through week 4 this year, Mixon 9 targets, Perine 4 targets, Evans 3 targets.

 
Perine is nowhere as good as Gio for receiving so that should be good news for Mixon going forward for targets IMHO.  Whether health and play calling allow that is TBD

 
Maybe he’s just in a timeshare even without an injury. 
I feel like this is one of those disconnects fantasy players experience between what should be happening and what actually is happening. So far, the Bengals don't seem to care what we think about Perine.

 
I feel like this is one of those disconnects fantasy players experience between what should be happening and what actually is happening. So far, the Bengals don't seem to care what we think about Perine.
Limiting reps with a timeshare makes sense when a guy can’t stay healthy 

 
Any updates on Mixon practicing this week?  I benched Swift last week in favour of Mixon, which proved to be a mistake, but it could have been even worse were it not for that TD.

Is Perine likely "out" for this week given COVID status?

Not sure if I should make the same mistake two weeks in a row.  But if Perine is out, and Mixon is practicing, I probably will start Mixon again.

 
Perine tested positive, so not likely to clear protocol by Sunday. Expect him to be out. I read a blurb on CBS yesterday that they believe Mixon came back too early from his injury, but there was no official info from the team on any setbacks so not sure if that was speculation based on his usage on Sunday. I'm no doctor, but he looked good in the carries he had, I didn't see him being tentative at all.

It's a bit early today, looking for the initial practice report for this week over the next couple of hours.

 
Joe Mixon (ankle) is practicing Wednesday.

Mixon played just 28% of the snaps in the Week 5 loss to the Packers, as he battled through his ankle sprain. He logged just 10 carries for 33 yards but did find the end zone while splitting work with Samaje Perine. And now Perine is on the COVID list, putting his Week 6 status in question. Mixon practicing would suggest he came out of Week 5 without any aggravation to his ankle.

Oct 13, 2021, 1:59 PM ET

 
Perine tested positive, so not likely to clear protocol by Sunday. Expect him to be out. I read a blurb on CBS yesterday that they believe Mixon came back too early from his injury, but there was no official info from the team on any setbacks so not sure if that was speculation based on his usage on Sunday. I'm no doctor, but he looked good in the carries he had, I didn't see him being tentative at all.

It's a bit early today, looking for the initial practice report for this week over the next couple of hours.


I haven't been able to find anywhere that said Perine tested positive. Is testing positive the only way you can you get on the COVID List or can you with just close contact situation? Has that been ruled out? 

 
I haven't been able to find anywhere that said Perine tested positive. Is testing positive the only way you can you get on the COVID List or can you with just close contact situation? Has that been ruled out? 
you can be contract trace or test positive. The road back to active status is different depending on which one you are on. here's the blurb from cbs yesterday on Perine:

Samaje Perine RB | CIN

Bengals' Samaje Perine: Tests positive for virus

(October 11, 2021 4:48 PM ET) Perine's placement on the reserve/COVID-19 list earlier Monday was the result of a positive test, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network reports.

Since Perine was deactivated as a result of a positive test rather than through contact-tracing reasons, he's unlikely to clear the NFL's COVID-19 protocol ahead of the Bengals' next game Sunday in Detroit. The development is a less-than-ideal one for the Bengals, given that top back Joe Mixon was able to handle only a limited role in the Week 5 loss to the Packers while managing an ankle injury. While Mixon's workload was restricted, Perine picked up a season-high 11 carries and gained 59 yards. He also drew five targets, hauling in four of them for 24 yards and a score. With Perine sidelined and Mixon banged up, rookie Chris Evans is the only healthy back on the roster, so expect Cincinnati to add another body at the position ahead of the matchup with the Lions.


iirc for contact tracing where they don't test postive, they can get back to active after two back to back 24 hour tests. but don't quote me on that last one.

 
Bengals head coach Zac Taylor said Joe Mixon "should get a full workload" in Week 6 against the Lions. 

Mixon had a limited role in Week 5 against the Packers as he fought through an ankle injury, handling 11 touches for 33 yards and a touchdown and running a meager nine pass routes. He could be in line for a gargantuan role against Detroit with Samaje Perine on the reserve/COVID-19 list. One of the league's worst run defenses, Lions opponents have rushed at a 50.4 percent clip this season, the highest rate in the NFL. The Bengals' boring offense runs the ball on 60 percent of its plays when leading, and they enter Week 6 as 3.5-point favorites. 

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