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RB Kareem Hunt, KC (5 Viewers)
- Thread starter Biabreakable
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The o line was healthy They played NE the first game and we know their D is bad. He was bottled up the whole game against Philly save for one play with a healthy o line. Gonna try to get AB for him.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
First game he dominated when New England was healthy. New England hasn't been that bad against the rb's since that game
Philly has one of the best front 7's in the league
You left out the Chargers, and Redskins game when he looked great.
The Texans are a solid defense and he still put up 100 even though his YPC wasn't great.
zoonation
Footballguy
They need to get healthy on the oline. They can't block for #### right now.
Kareem is still money though. Patience people...
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Funny, he still has over 100 total yards
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I feel dirty defending Hunt, I was the one trying to tell people he isn't the overall 1.01 dynasty pick after 3 weeks. Now one average game and we have people ready to jump ship. WTF is going on?
The Jacket
Footballguy
In the most unimaginably bad game, against a team who completely owns KC's soul, he STILL puts up over 100 yards from scrimmage.
Not only does he have the highest ceiling in the league, who has a lower floor?
Not only does he have the highest ceiling in the league, who has a lower floor?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
A game where he couldn't break free on the ground, and was only given 9 carries...he still caught 5 balls for 89 yards. His floor is great week in and week out
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Over 100 yards from scrimmage & 5 receptions with a negative game script against an angry PIT D playing out of their minds.
Don’t know why people are so bent on bashing the dude. I’m still in
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's a fine trade so at that value it's not a panic move - and your trade partner obviously still believes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This, he is acting like the sky is falling, this is a bad trade if it is dynasty. Redraft and he is just a troll that has great rb depth.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Not a bad trade in dynasty either although Brown without Ben if he retires may not be good for him.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
That is kind of my thinking Ben is probably 50/50 and I don't buy this, but AB's value is heading down after this year just based on age. People see 30 for a receiver and panic.
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Not a dynasty. My other rb's are Martin, Kamara, Lynch. If West hadn't got hurt no way Hunt catches 5 for 89. Reid pulls him in most passing situations.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I know people see it that way but WR are still productive into their 30s while RB often flame out after a few seasons, so from my perspective thats more of a push.
I do agree with you that a lot of people don't see it that way, but the history supports this for a lot of WR careers.
Brown is very good and should continue to be good for many more years. LIkely not as good without Ben or other good QB play though.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
How was he on pace to catch about 50 passes this year? The what if game is a losers way to play fantasy football.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yup. In one league I dealt Julio for Hunt two weeks ago with this exact thinking in mind--the way he gets nicked up and doesn't score a ton of TDs, along with being about 29, I was worried that Julio wouldn't have the trade value to pull someone young and studly like Hunt in the offseason
zoonation
Footballguy
Pardon? He can't block. At all. He was getting trucked. Like blown off his feet and then a sack
I never said jump ship. Was just making an observation. An obvious one. West is in there for a reason on passing downs.
zoonation
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
Hunt wouldn't have played in the second half (except for a couple carries) if West wasn't hurt. Only a complete fanboy would think otherwise.
Not because he can't catch. It is because he can't block. Takes half of the passing playbook out.
Watch the last series of the first half and get back to me.
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
Had a good block last night. Maybe rookie rbs aren't trusted to pass block until the prove it a bit. Maybe he can pass block, once he's had more experience with it.
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oddsbodkins
Footballguy
He's been in on more and more 3rd downs as the season goes along. He doesn't get the ball but he's out there. His usage last night after the first drive was absolutely maddening.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
His floor consistently is 100 total yards and 4-5 catches (of which he could break any). It's extremely impressive. The TDs aren't predictable but when they come they make his days go from good to great.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Hunt isn’t going to be out there every down. No RB will be. Has anyone considered the alternative - that Hunt is a far superior RB to West or Spiller and Reid is putting those guys in where they can make the most meaningful contribution give their skill sets and where the separation between Hunt and those two are the least?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
I think that's definitely happening. Hunt is clearly an elite level talent... but West and Spiller are getting their time when the game flow fits. As much as I'd love Hunt to get every touch, the reality is that we'd like him to be alive week 16, too
It's frustrating when you see a drive or two back to back where West is getting a lot of love... but in the long run that's a good thing. 
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
I think that's definitely happening. Hunt is clearly an elite level talent... but West and Spiller are getting their time when the game flow fits. As much as I'd love Hunt to get every touch, the reality is that we'd like him to be alive week 16, too
Pretty clear that Reid is managing his touches. As a Hunt owner I’m very happy about that. I want him ready to rock and roll still in weeks 14-16.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Not that I'm down on Hunt, but this is a real threat. I said this last year when Ware was in the middle of his hot streak and got butchered for it but I was dead-on, Ware's production declined as that conversation went on, with one game over 11 points after week 7.
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Insoxicated
While I don't mean to completely dismiss this... Ware is not Hunt, and this KC team is a different animal than the one last year, IMO. Hunt is pretty clearly entrenched as a top 3 cog in this offense (with Kelce and Hill) and they will all continue to get theirs. I think Hunt will continue to post 15-20 point fantasy weeks with a few outliers above and maybe a couple below going forward.
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
I'm definitely not panicking or selling, he's a strong hold, but people said this exact same thing about Ware last year. I think he's probably more talented than Ware and he's a great fit for what they do, but Ware's problem wasn't even about Ware - it was about Reid and his penchant for completely going sideways on us - he just has to try to fix what's not broken. If we can keep Reid away from that he's a top 5 RB no question.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Better for we Hunt owners that Reid, arguably, lost this game by not utilizing Hunt. You could make the same argument last loss too but this was much more obvious. Had KC won, he probably tries to keep being smartest man on the sidelines. 2 losses and now he should go back to the girl he brought to the dance.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I think he used him just fine. He got 18 carries and 4 catches for 117 total yards. They scored 2 of their TD's from long range and he just happened to not get the one red zone opportunity they did have. He still scored 15+ in PPR without a TD - that's a heck of a floor. If he averages that the rest of the year that will only be a small disappointment but he will still have vastly outperformed his ADP and all expectations.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Mostly agree (especially about his floor) but that red zone drive he was absent was extremely curious. He also went a stretch, including that drive, where he had one carry in about 18/19 game minutes. In that time, Spiller and Hill received carries. That's ridiculous.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
It still astounds me that people are actually anything other than completely thrilled and content with having a plug-and-play matchup proof RB1 on their roster.
Back up 2 months and tell me you wouldn’t have taken it and ran if someone would have guaranteed 75% of what Hunt has put up to date. Some of you guys could win $5 million in the lottery and then come in here and complain to everyone how it wasn’t $6 million. I swear to God...
Back up 2 months and tell me you wouldn’t have taken it and ran if someone would have guaranteed 75% of what Hunt has put up to date. Some of you guys could win $5 million in the lottery and then come in here and complain to everyone how it wasn’t $6 million. I swear to God...
That block on Bowman was huge. When they ran the replay rather than watching the big throw, I was watching to see if that was really Hunt who had that block.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Reid will still be managing the touches those weeks. He is thinking about the playoffs, not the fantasy playoffs.
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
I think Hunt owners should be thrilled by the success of Smith's downfield passing. Hunt can't be the sole focus of defenses. Let's hope smith doesn't remember who he actually is.
