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RB Kenneth Walker III - SEA (6 Viewers)

So now onto the Playoffs!

Walker???
Reports were may be out for just 1 week and be ready.
BUT Charbonnet had a great week!!

Where does this all stand?
Even if Walker is healthy.

Charbonnet takes over #1?
Full blown by committee, 50/50?
Walker back in his usual role??
 
If Walkers back, I expect a 60/40 look with Walker in the lead. What I hope happens though is they rest Walker until he's fully 100%. I have both and it's better when it's just one of them in there by themselves.
 
Pure speculation but Dr Jesse. Morse is one of those fantasy doctors that looks at the play, listens to the diagnosis and makes an educated guess on a player's injury. He believes if it is a calf strain, it could be weeks before Walker is back.

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In the dynasty league I have Walker I have the luxury of a bye this week, but if I’m looking into my crystal ball he’s not hitting my starting lineup ROS.
 
I thought he would be carrying me ROS when he was coming out of his bye in week 10 - I thought wrong. I am benching him for Chuba, Stevenson and McCormick this week regardless of his status. In a do or die playoff week, I have to wait and see what time share he gets this week before trusting him. He hasn't exactly been lighting it up recently and it was very frustrating to see Charbs kick butt against Arizona last week.
 
JoeJoe88 said:
scothawk said:
Charbs is doing the job they brought him in to do. Suspect that KW sits one more week to get to 100%.
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I think people forget sometimes they have nearly equal draft capital.
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We’ve been over this ad nauseam. K9 is the better back when healthy and it’s not that close. You could have an argument for availability being more important but imo, teams will alway take the guy with the higher upside.
 
As a Charbs owner in a a couple leagues, I wouldn't mind seeing Walker really wait til he gets 100%. If you look at the stats, Charbs on efficiency metrics is beating Walker this year in YPC, YPR, both have 8 total touchdowns, just Charbs has his on like 40 less touches.
 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
JoeJoe88 said:
scothawk said:
Charbs is doing the job they brought him in to do. Suspect that KW sits one more week to get to 100%.
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I think people forget sometimes they have nearly equal draft capital.
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We’ve been over this ad nauseam. K9 is the better back when healthy and it’s not that close. You could have an argument for availability being more important but imo, teams will alway take the guy with the higher upside.
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Not close? I’m a massive Walker fan with a dynasty share and zero shares of Charbonnet, but wake me up when the former has a 41 point fantasy week.
 
Owner of both .. Love me some KWIII but I drafted Charbs 1.07 last year.
I just want a clear / decisive decision on KWIII playing this week. I have Flex options (Kamara, AJones, JJennings, Shakir), but GB is #17 Most Points to RB this year.
 
For the past several games that either or both have been active Charbonnet is playing better behind the suspect SEA O line...whether that's due to his size, better health or better fit for the blocking scheme...IDK. KWIII is consistently hit at or behind the LOS lately.
 
KWII is clearly the more explosive RB. I think we can all agree on that. That trait does not make him the better RB. I like them both quite a bit. Seattle has consistently given KWII more touches than Charbs, so they believe he's the better RB for what they are trying to do. And what they believe is what matters.
 
JoeJoe88 said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
JoeJoe88 said:
scothawk said:
Charbs is doing the job they brought him in to do. Suspect that KW sits one more week to get to 100%.
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I think people forget sometimes they have nearly equal draft capital.
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We’ve been over this ad nauseam. K9 is the better back when healthy and it’s not that close. You could have an argument for availability being more important but imo, teams will alway take the guy with the higher upside.
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Not close? I’m a massive Walker fan with a dynasty share and zero shares of Charbonnet, but wake me up when the former has a 41 point fantasy week.
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Amen.

I like Walker more. Prefer his talent personally. I would imagine if most GM’s had a choice that Walker would be chosen more. But not by everyone, not a consensus. What we’ve thought since they drafted Charbs was that his skill set is close to an exact opposite of Walkers. As such it’s more of like picking out your ice cream choice, just depends on the flavor you want.

It’s also very hard to discount the major disappointment on the offensive side of the ball for this team all year has been their inability to get their running game consistently going. This was just one game, maybe they did a few things differently/better to support Charbs. I linked a chart yesterday to illustrate how tough it’s been for their RB’s, and that’s mainly been Walker. But he’s just not done well and it’s quite possible that Charbs different style is more effective right now. And I’ll say again I like Walker more, he’s also one of the funnest RB’s to watch in the league.
 
I think Walker gets frustrated at the lack of room to run and gets away from running vertically. You can see where he starts moving horizontality after taking the handoff. From what I saw last week Charbs has no horizontal in his game. It must be the mentality of a home run hitter style vs a physical style. The thing is I think Walker could do what Charbs did but it's just not his mindset to bang it up in there and hope something opens. Take the 1-2-3 yard gains over and over while remaining patient.
 
C & C said:
KWII is clearly the more explosive RB. I think we can all agree on that. That trait does not make him the better RB. I like them both quite a bit. Seattle has consistently given KWII more touches than Charbs, so they believe he's the better RB for what they are trying to do. And what they believe is what matters.
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I wonder how much of the current "more touches" to KW is his contract is up after 2025 and "use him while available" mindset. The RB Turnover is wild in NFL with rookies coming in and the FA Market (yes, this is a down year compared to last year's major flux).
 
The NFL would be a lot more fun if they just switched to fantasy scoring. Sure, keep counting touchdowns and field goals. But also give them a point for every 10 yards rushing and 25 yards passing. And they should only be allowed to count points from 1 RB and 2 WRs per team. If the second running back scores a touchdown or the backup tight end, it shouldn't count. Those guys are on the bench.
 
packer_junkie said:
Crappy part is its a SNF kick

and my alternate options from Charbs are Bucky (highly Q) and Sincere (at least he plays MNF haha)
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Looks like a fair situation to me. Charbonnet is very likely to be the guy, but just in case you have the announced starter at home against the Falcons. You could do worse.
 
Im a Seahawks fan and also a fan of Walker and Charbs. The best teams have 2 great RBs and it seems the Seahawks do. Right now KW isn't 100% so we don't need to rush him back especially when Charbs is on a hot streak. In fantasy its not great ,especially at this time of year but I think we get one more week of 100% Charbs and then back to previous KW lead situation.Both are great backs - it will be itneresting to see which evolves in line with the whole offensive scheme rest of season and off season,

Whilst KW has been the lead, I just wonder if we might see a real timeshare next season,
 
Ugh. Two coaching staffs have watched tape, watched practice, etc and both have stated Walker is the lead back.
This coaching staff did nothing but praise Walker all spring. How he is elite, one of the top backs in the NFL, etc.

When Walker is healthy, he is the guy. That being said, he's clearly not healthy. Hell, maybe the coaching staff was playing him over Charbonnet even while not 100% thinking he was still the better option. Who knows. Charbonnet was drafted to be the backup. He plays that part beautifully. Sit Walker until he is healthy.
 
Payne said:
Ugh. Two coaching staffs have watched tape, watched practice, etc and both have stated Walker is the lead back.
This coaching staff did nothing but praise Walker all spring. How he is elite, one of the top backs in the NFL, etc.

When Walker is healthy, he is the guy. That being said, he's clearly not healthy. Hell, maybe the coaching staff was playing him over Charbonnet even while not 100% thinking he was still the better option. Who knows. Charbonnet was drafted to be the backup. He plays that part beautifully. Sit Walker until he is healthy.
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Walker is the superior athlete and a legit threat to go the distance every carry. But when you have an opposing D in an actual game manhandling your offensive line it gets ugly. Like I said I think it's a mental issue at this point. At the beginning of the season Walker was taking the handoff and exploding vertically. A few games of getting blasted behind the line and he starts taking handoffs and going horizontality trying to make something out of nothing. If he had patience and stayed on his early season form he'd probably wind up breaking free a few times a game.
 
Sunday Gravy said:
Payne said:
Ugh. Two coaching staffs have watched tape, watched practice, etc and both have stated Walker is the lead back.
This coaching staff did nothing but praise Walker all spring. How he is elite, one of the top backs in the NFL, etc.

When Walker is healthy, he is the guy. That being said, he's clearly not healthy. Hell, maybe the coaching staff was playing him over Charbonnet even while not 100% thinking he was still the better option. Who knows. Charbonnet was drafted to be the backup. He plays that part beautifully. Sit Walker until he is healthy.
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Walker is the superior athlete and a legit threat to go the distance every carry. But when you have an opposing D in an actual game manhandling your offensive line it gets ugly. Like I said I think it's a mental issue at this point. At the beginning of the season Walker was taking the handoff and exploding vertically. A few games of getting blasted behind the line and he starts taking handoffs and going horizontality trying to make something out of nothing. If he had patience and stayed on his early season form he'd probably wind up breaking free a few times a game.
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You posted the bolded up stream and again here. I'm not sure I agree with that, but you might be correct.
 
I don't watch college football, so its always fun seeing these obvious college comps live on throughout a guy's NFL Career. I like Walker. I don't think as a FF back, he is really all that much better than the guy behind him. Esp when the stats and metrics show it at least this year.
Sure he is a timed superior athlete etc, does he have superior vision tho? Reminds me of the Christine Michael debates from years ago
 
Terpman22 said:
I don't watch college football, so its always fun seeing these obvious college comps live on throughout a guy's NFL Career. I like Walker. I don't think as a FF back, he is really all that much better than the guy behind him. Esp when the stats and metrics show it at least this year.
Sure he is a timed superior athlete etc, does he have superior vision tho? Reminds me of the Christine Michael debates from years ago
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Watch some MSU games. Watch the Michigan - MSU game at least.
 
Payne said:
Terpman22 said:
I don't watch college football, so its always fun seeing these obvious college comps live on throughout a guy's NFL Career. I like Walker. I don't think as a FF back, he is really all that much better than the guy behind him. Esp when the stats and metrics show it at least this year.
Sure he is a timed superior athlete etc, does he have superior vision tho? Reminds me of the Christine Michael debates from years ago
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Watch some MSU games. Watch the Michigan - MSU game at least.
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Well I guess my point is haha I'm not going to go watch college tape now either. I watch NFL tape though. You can see obviously he is a faster dude. Charbs looks like he see's the field about as well or better. I got Charbs in a couple leagues, have started him the weeks Walker has been out and have been happy with the production. Maybe Walker has been hurt all year, but some of Charbs' best games Walker isn't even close to. All good though.
 
Terpman22 said:
Payne said:
Terpman22 said:
I don't watch college football, so its always fun seeing these obvious college comps live on throughout a guy's NFL Career. I like Walker. I don't think as a FF back, he is really all that much better than the guy behind him. Esp when the stats and metrics show it at least this year.
Sure he is a timed superior athlete etc, does he have superior vision tho? Reminds me of the Christine Michael debates from years ago
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Watch some MSU games. Watch the Michigan - MSU game at least.
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Well I guess my point is haha I'm not going to go watch college tape now either. I watch NFL tape though. You can see obviously he is a faster dude. Charbs looks like he see's the field about as well or better. I got Charbs in a couple leagues, have started him the weeks Walker has been out and have been happy with the production. Maybe Walker has been hurt all year, but some of Charbs' best games Walker isn't even close to. All good though.
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Just saying Charbonnet has gone over 70 yards combined twice all year. He's had one excellent game and one good game.
I believe Walker has done it 6 times this year including week 4 where he put up 33 fantasy points. I consider that "close".
He's also missed three games this year.

And it's not including last year where Walker had almost twice as many yards and 9 touchdowns to 1 despite missing two games.
 
Payne said:
Terpman22 said:
Payne said:
Terpman22 said:
I don't watch college football, so its always fun seeing these obvious college comps live on throughout a guy's NFL Career. I like Walker. I don't think as a FF back, he is really all that much better than the guy behind him. Esp when the stats and metrics show it at least this year.
Sure he is a timed superior athlete etc, does he have superior vision tho? Reminds me of the Christine Michael debates from years ago
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Watch some MSU games. Watch the Michigan - MSU game at least.
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Well I guess my point is haha I'm not going to go watch college tape now either. I watch NFL tape though. You can see obviously he is a faster dude. Charbs looks like he see's the field about as well or better. I got Charbs in a couple leagues, have started him the weeks Walker has been out and have been happy with the production. Maybe Walker has been hurt all year, but some of Charbs' best games Walker isn't even close to. All good though.
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Just saying Charbonnet has gone over 70 yards combined twice all year. He's had one excellent game and one good game.
I believe Walker has done it 6 times this year including week 4 where he put up 33 fantasy points. I consider that "close".
He's also missed three games this year.

And it's not including last year where Walker had almost twice as many yards and 9 touchdowns to 1 despite missing two games.
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You are probably more right than I am. I am just happy to own the guy when Walker goes down and he is fed and still produces at a RB1 level without question, yet somehow there seems to be this ongoing debate about who really *is* better. It seems closer in the NFL than they were prospects coming out and I still think that part still weighs heavily in people's eval is all.
 
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