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RB Kerryon Johnson, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

I never like using the injury prone label for RBs since it's a brutal game, but I don't think this is a guy you can build your running game around for the long term. I really like him and he's super tough, but it seems like he's been hurt every single year since high school. 

 
I never like using the injury prone label for RBs since it's a brutal game, but I don't think this is a guy you can build your running game around for the long term. I really like him and he's super tough, but it seems like he's been hurt every single year since high school. 
He played 36 games in 3 years in college though which is pretty good.  These big injuries that take him out of the season for big chunks are new to the NFL.

 
I never like using the injury prone label for RBs since it's a brutal game, but I don't think this is a guy you can build your running game around for the long term. I really like him and he's super tough, but it seems like he's been hurt every single year since high school. 
When the Lions traded up for Kerryon, lots of people were shocked he went ahead of Guice. As of right now, both careers have been significantly hampered by knee injuries. 

 
When the Lions traded up for Kerryon, lots of people were shocked he went ahead of Guice. As of right now, both careers have been significantly hampered by knee injuries. 
I have both in one dynasty league. Bummer as I think both are terrific talents. Guice especially, he could be up there with Chubb IMO if he was (ever) healthy.

 
He played 36 games in 3 years in college though which is pretty good.  These big injuries that take him out of the season for big chunks are new to the NFL.
Yeah he only missed 4 games in college, but I think that speaks more to his toughness than being able to stay healthy. He played through a lot of injuries. 

 
Right now, today, with what we know - is he a top 20 dynasty RB?
no chance IMO. Not sure he would make top 24 for me. He reminds me of Miles Sanders, lots of hype (that I dont understand), but cant live up to it. Kerryon seems injury prone so theres that to factor in as well

 
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I dont think he is. I have him in dynasty and I had a chance to unload him and blew it. Now I will have to wait for the off season to get something for him.
I moved him yesterday, right after the move to IR, to a rebuilding team for Freeman (and a move from a 4th round rookie pick to a 3rd). 

I just can't see the Lions going into next year thinking he'll be their guy.  He's finished both of his NFL seasons on IR.

 
no chance IMO. Not sure he would make top 24 for me. He reminds me of Miles Sanders, lots of hype (that I dont understand), but cant live up to it. Kerryon seems injury prone so theres that to factor in as well
He showed a lot more last year than Sanders ever has.

 
Right now, today, with what we know - is he a top 20 dynasty RB?
Not in order:

  1. Saquon
  2. CMC
  3. Kamara
  4. Zeke
  5. Chubb
  6. Cook
  7. Mixon
  8. Fournette
  9. Jacobs
  10. Carson
  11. Mack
  12. Conner
  13. Dj
  14. Bell
  15. Gurley
  16. Gordon
Things start to get really sketchy after that.  I think I'd still take him ahead of Monty/Sanders.  Then you have guys like Henry (never been a fan), Lindsay, Hunt, Freeman.  I don't think I'd prefer any of those guys over him.

 
Things start to get really sketchy after that.  I think I'd still take him ahead of Monty/Sanders.  Then you have guys like Henry (never been a fan), Lindsay, Hunt, Freeman.  I don't think I'd prefer any of those guys over him.
He's costing you a roster spot between now and week 1 next year, though.  Detroit may very well bring in another RB this offseason - I mean how can they trust KJ to carry the load after 2 seasons ending on IR?

Also - A-Aron Jones, Sony?  And 2-3 rookies, at least, coming up in the 2020 draft that you'll likely rather have before KJ can step back on the field for you?

 
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Right now, today, with what we know - is he a top 20 dynasty RB?
If he is, he won't be after May.

Barkley
CMC
Kamara
EZE
Cook
Chubb
Fournette
Jacobs
Carson
Conner
Bell
DJ
Ekeler
Henry
Aaron Jones
Mixon
Mack
Michel
Lindsey

That's 19 and has three potentially exacerbating situations still outstanding:

1.  TBD/age names like Gurley, Gordon, or Freema
2.  Next gen flash potential guys like Montgomery,  Singletary, Henderson, Guice etc. 
3.  Probably another 4 come May with Swift, Ettienne, Taylor, and Akers with who knows what surprises/bumps when a guy like Anthony McFarland ends up in KCC. 
4.  What if Ty Johnson tears it up in KJ's absence?

One could make a case for Kerryon not to be a top 30 guy right now depending on personal preferences.

 
3.  Probably another 4 come May with Swift, Ettienne, Taylor, and Akers with who knows what surprises/bumps when a guy like Anthony McFarland ends up in KCC. 
That's what I was mentioning above - draft picks don't take up roster spots, hurt players do.  I'd rather have the pick now, than have to use up a roster spot on KJ between now and next year. 

Also, unrelated, that's really high on Ekeler. 

 
He's costing you a roster spot between now and week 1 next year, though.  Detroit may very well bring in another RB this offseason - I mean how can they trust KJ to carry the load after 2 seasons ending on IR?

Also - A-Aron Jones, Sony?  And 2-3 rookies, at least, coming up in the 2020 draft that you'll likely rather have before KJ can step back on the field for you?
All of my leagues have 3 IR spots so the roster spot is less of an issue for me, but I can see how that would make a difference for some.

A-A-Ron has similar question marks to Kerryon (splitting time, injury history) with less pedigree.  But yes I would take him ahead of Kerryon, I missed him.

I have less than zero interest in Sony.

You're definitely right about the rookies.  There will probably be anywhere from 4-5 of them that jump Kerryon before the start of next year, so no disagreement there.  I was only speaking to the statement as to whether he's top 20 right now though.

 
All of my leagues have 3 IR spots so the roster spot is less of an issue for me, but I can see how that would make a difference for some.

A-A-Ron has similar question marks to Kerryon (splitting time, injury history) with less pedigree.  But yes I would take him ahead of Kerryon, I missed him.

I have less than zero interest in Sony.

You're definitely right about the rookies.  There will probably be anywhere from 4-5 of them that jump Kerryon before the start of next year, so no disagreement there.  I was only speaking to the statement as to whether he's top 20 right now though.
Yeah, I guess I wasn't totally clear on that.  I'd have to rank him lower simply because he can't play the rest of this year.  By the time he actually could play again (and thus help your team), we'll have another round of rookies to add in. 

 
Rotoworld:

Kerryon Johnson (knee, I.R.) returned to practice Wednesday.

Johnson isn't eligible to return to game action until Week 16, but this opens his three-week window for activation from injured reserve. Even if he does return, Johnson will be hard to trust for a Week 16 road date against the Broncos in what would be his first game in two months. Johnson isn't worth picking up in season-long leagues unless you play through Week 17. And even then, it's no slam dunk that he gets cleared to return.

SOURCE: Kyle Meinke on Twitter

Dec 4, 2019, 12:23 PM ET

 
Kerryon Johnson (knee, IR) confirmed he's been setback-free since returning to practice.

Johnson has been practicing the last two weeks. He's drawn praise for his conditioning from coach Matt Patricia and is on track to be activated when first eligible in Week 16. The Lions don't have much reason to rush Johnson in a lost year, but they want to get him reps going into the offseason. With Bo Scarbrough showing well in his absence, Johnson will likely form a two-back committee when he returns.

SOURCE: Detroit News

Dec 14, 2019, 11:14 AM ET

 
I do not understand at all why he would play
Barring the team doctor saying he’s not ready... a game check.

FF peeps are a strange sort. Let’s sit our fully functional employees with full pay because we won’t make our quota as a team. Bad business mentality.

 
Barring the team doctor saying he’s not ready... a game check.

FF peeps are a strange sort. Let’s sit our fully functional employees with full pay because we won’t make our quota as a team. Bad business mentality.
Kerryon should be paid because he's presumably working hard, recovering and getting back into football shape. However, they have a longterm investment in him and there is no reason to risk another injury with him in a lost season. Kerryon isn't just some random hourly worker with low investment and easily replaceable skills. 

 
It’s week 15,  the team is terrible,  most of their best players are on IR and long term it’s best for the team to lose out. 
So should they sit Golladay too?  Should Barkley, McCaffrey, Godwin, Fournette, and Chubb all sit too?

This isn't Madden.  The guys involved in the Lions right now aren't guaranteed to be involved with them next year.  They need to win as many games as possible and look as good as possible and that means if a guy is healthy he should play.  And there's also the notion that they may want to see a little more out of Kerryon before they decide what to do about the RB position this offseason as he wasn't exactly playing great before the injury.

 
So should they sit Golladay too?  Should Barkley, McCaffrey, Godwin, Fournette, and Chubb all sit too?

This isn't Madden.  The guys involved in the Lions right now aren't guaranteed to be involved with them next year.  They need to win as many games as possible and look as good as possible and that means if a guy is healthy he should play.  And there's also the notion that they may want to see a little more out of Kerryon before they decide what to do about the RB position this offseason as he wasn't exactly playing great before the injury.
I think the decision if Quinn and Patricia come back next year has already been made. How they do with only  2/3 of their starters and a 3rd string QB starting won't matter for that decision. I don't think Kerryon is a fair comp to CMc, Godwin, Golladay, etc. because they aren't on IR. The Lions don't need to bring him off IR. This is the 2nd year in a row he has had a lower leg injury during the season that placed him on IR. They traded up in the 2nd to get him. They are deeply invested in him. Why not keep him on IR, keep him clean and maybe increase the chances of getting a better draft pick? 

 
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I'm adding him as a possible flex, if I make the Championship game and it sounds like he is gonna get some burn. Scarborough ain't exactly a picture of health right now himself, and Kerryon would sure make a nice check-down option for Blough. Fresh legs, to boot.

 
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Chris Burke of The Athletic confirms Kerryon Johnson (knee) is expected to return for Week 16 against the Broncos.

Johnson has not been officially activated from injured reserve, though Burke's takeaway from Thursday's practice was that he'll assuredly be the starter when Detroit visits Denver in Week 16. Kerryon's expected return should finally bring some clarity to the Lions' backfield, which has been a revolving door for the better part of two months. Even if Johnson resumes immediate workhorse status, his fantasy prospects are severely hampered by third-string quarterback David Blough, who has led the Lions to 20 points or fewer in each of his three starts.

SOURCE: Chris Burke on Twitter

Dec 19, 2019, 1:49 PM ET
 
Kerryon Johnson (knee) said he "hopes" to play Week 16 against the Broncos.

Johnson is eligible to come off injured reserve but said that decision is "not up to him." Reportedly looking strong in practice, most signs point to Johnson not only playing but returning to workhorse status Sunday at Denver. He certainly carries risk coming off a two-month absence (having David Blough under center also won't help matters), though Johnson should see enough volume to warrant RB3 consideration against the Broncos. Fill-in Bo Scarbrough no longer carries any fantasy significance.

SOURCE: Michael Rothstein on Twitter

Dec 19, 2019, 4:48 PM ET

 
According NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Kerryon Johnson may not start but should still see his "full share of carries along with Bo Scarbrough" in Week 16 against the Broncos.

Rapoport's wording is a bit unclear—"full share of carries" would imply workhorse usage, though alluding to Scarbrough's involvement would seem to contract that idea. Kerryon is obviously the superior talent, but coach Matt Patricia has already downplayed expectations by saying the team will be "smart" with his usage coming off a two-month absence. Facing an uncertain workload with a third-string quarterback (undrafted rookie David Blough) calling the shots, rolling the dice on Johnson would seem to be an unnecessary risk. Fantasy owners who have made it this far can likely survive another week without Johnson.

RELATED: 

Bo Scarbrough

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Dec 22, 2019, 9:34 AM ET

 
Kerryon Johnson logged 10 carries for 42 yards on the ground while securing his lone target for a one-yard gain Sunday in Detroit’s Week 16 loss to the Broncos.

Johnson didn't start but nonetheless out-touched Bo Scarbrough in his return from an eight-game absence. His long run went for eight yards. We're not entirely sure why the Lions insisted on bringing Johnson back in the midst of a lost season, though at least he looked healthy. Kerryon didn't break off any big ones, averaging a workmanlike 4.2 yards per carry with a long run of eight yards. Not yet ready for a full workload coming off a two-month absence, Johnson should continue to work in tandem with Scarbrough when the Lions return home to close out their season against the Packers in Week 17.

 
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Just saw an interview with KJ. What a great young man and talent. I just hope the combo of his injury history and the way the lions use their backs don't hold him back. 

 
So what everyone's take on this guy?  I think he's HOLD in dynasty league.  The overriding factor is his durability, which generally holds true for all RBs.  But man, when he's healthy, he is productive.  My biggest fear that Lions would take another RB in this year's draft.  

 
So what everyone's take on this guy?  I think he's HOLD in dynasty league.  The overriding factor is his durability, which generally holds true for all RBs.  But man, when he's healthy, he is productive.  My biggest fear that Lions would take another RB in this year's draft.  
Well I was thinking he was a sell before the lions draft a rb, but then had trouble giving him away. Everybody must be thinking the same thing. They have a crap ton of 1st and 2nds and read they might trade with Miami to add more. They have a lot of needs on defense so maybe they go that route. 

 
If they draft another RB it might just be a rotation guy that takes the 3rd down or short yardage duties. They will limit KJ's touches to try to keep him healthy. 

 
Leroy Hoard said:
If they draft another RB it might just be a rotation guy that takes the 3rd down or short yardage duties. They will limit KJ's touches to try to keep him healthy. 
Don’t they already have a short yardage guy in Scarborough?   He performed pretty well last year considering the situation.   

 
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If they draft another RB it might just be a rotation guy that takes the 3rd down or short yardage duties. They will limit KJ's touches to try to keep him healthy. 
I expect the Lions to use a late pick on one at least. Hoping it's not the Moss-Akers range or better. I'll be pissed if they get JT or Dobbins or Swift.

 
I know they have a lot of needs on defense. How's they're o-line, I assume it's terrible.
LT Decker is in his final year, they let RT Wagner go and paid a backup (Eagles Vatau) to replace him. Not confident that ends up a positive. They let one of their most talented lineman (Glasgow) walk. They are depleted and what remains are more questions than answers. But with Patricia on the firing line this season and his “expertise” being on the defensive side, I expect them to be defense heavy this draft as he tries to prove something for his potential next job. 

 
Well I was thinking he was a sell before the lions draft a rb, but then had trouble giving him away. Everybody must be thinking the same thing. They have a crap ton of 1st and 2nds and read they might trade with Miami to add more. They have a lot of needs on defense so maybe they go that route. 
That's the same thought I have on Lions' many need for defense.  They were terrible last year.  It's painfully obvious on their desire to trade down to accumulate more picks (hint hint Dolphins).  

I expect the Lions to use a late pick on one at least. Hoping it's not the Moss-Akers range or better. I'll be pissed if they get JT or Dobbins or Swift.
Same here... I'm hoping that they would take lesser tier RB.  

I know they have a lot of needs on defense. How's they're o-line, I assume it's terrible.
I think their O-Line is decent but could use for more infusion with youth.  I know HC Patricia want to more or less follow his mentor's blueprint with Patriots.  

 

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