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RB Latavius Murray, BUF (2 Viewers)

Is anyone NOT starting him against KC?
Mathews and Miller both looked good yesterday and Jeremy Hill vs CLE doesn't scare me. I could see myself benching Latavius when choosing 2 of the 4 backs.

I need to be coaxed into starting him in the $$ round by good praise from the head coach and dejection from JogDMC. If I get those 2 things, he is in there.

 
When they let him play, they win.

The threat of a good RB is so under-rated in today's NFL. Coaches get cute and think they can just plug and play whoever.

 
How do u guys feel about marcel Reece getting just about all the receptions? This is stopping me from making Murray a definitive start next week

 
How do u guys feel about marcel Reece getting just about all the receptions? This is stopping me from making Murray a definitive start next week
Too early to say if Murray can do anything in the passing game. I don't think anyone knows. He also received his first significant playing time, ever, yesterday.

 
It should be the Murray and Reese show for the last 2 games. Of course, that may be too logical for the Raiders. Murray did not look great but he looked better than MGD and DMC. That is enough for him to take the job as starting RB. Reese should see 1/3 of the snaps. He brings more to the table than MGD and DMC as well. Nobody really knows how the Raiders are going to use their RBs though.

 
McKenzie and Allen and Davis or whoever calls the shots in Oakland look pretty ridiculous now. Let's see, they have one game where they give this guy just the slightest chance to carry them and another where they lean on him and they go 2-0. What a complete waste of a season for the team and the fans.
Do you think Murray's 86 yards, or Carr's 3 passing TDs were more responsible for the win?

And do you know who drafted both of them?
I think they go hand in hand. I don't know where they are now but midseason they were headed for the fewest rushing attempts since about 1936. Can a team really throw with zero running game? Can a team with a rookie QB win with zero run game? I'm not saying they'd be undefeated instead of winless through the first 10 games but they have kept several games reasonable with no rushing, I can only think they would have won a few with a Murray/Reese combo.

Yes those guys drafted Murray but they also benched him all year and they (maybe not Allen) also signed MJD and resigned Mac, which they did not have to do and which has proved to be a total waste of time and resources apparently.

 
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At first glance, I'm benching him in PPR in favor of Herron and Blount. May consider swapping Herron out, but I feel great about Blount playing at home vs. Miami. The touches have been there, and there's definite blowout potential there.

 
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McKenzie and Allen and Davis or whoever calls the shots in Oakland look pretty ridiculous now. Let's see, they have one game where they give this guy just the slightest chance to carry them and another where they lean on him and they go 2-0. What a complete waste of a season for the team and the fans.
Do you think Murray's 86 yards, or Carr's 3 passing TDs were more responsible for the win?

And do you know who drafted both of them?
I think they go hand in hand. I don't know where they are now but midseason they were headed for the fewest rushing attempts since about 1936. Can a team really throw with zero running game? Can a team with a rookie QB win with zero run game? I'm not saying they'd be undefeated instead of winless through the first 10 games but they have kept several games reasonable with no rushing, I can only think they would have won a few with a Murray/Reese combo.

Yes those guys drafted Murray but they also benched him all year and they (maybe not Allen) also signed MJD and resigned Mac, which they did not have to do and which has proved to be a total waste of time and resources apparently.
And maybe Murray would have missed a block, and gotten Carr killed.

Murray was an unknown before this season, your 20/20 hindsight is perfect, but they truly had no idea what they had. MJD and DMC both appear to be done, and won't cost anything on the cap when they are gone.

Murray isn't the first backup to come in and look better than the 1st string guy.

 
Considering Lat over Ingram and Crowell this coming weekend. He tore up the Chiefs on 4 carries before getting concussed just three weeks ago. He was on his way to a monster night before it got cut short.

 
Considering Lat over Ingram and Crowell this coming weekend. He tore up the Chiefs on 4 carries before getting concussed just three weeks ago. He was on his way to a monster night before it got cut short.
considering the same. from week 9-14, chiefs have allowed:

139,111,204,179,214 and 141 yards rushing.

granted, coaching could pull one over on us and run DMC, MJD and marcel all day and see Lat get 4 carries.

the saints are a total crap shoot for me right now. ingram is not used when they get behind and they just let the panthers look like the greatest show on turf.

crowell may still split carries and not sure of the qb....

why not go with the homerun swing with murray

 
@alexmarvez

Interim HC Tony Sparano says Latavius Murray won't be Raiders workhorse RB down stretch

Are we about done here? Terrible offense; stupid coach. What's not to like???
Loathed Sparano as head coach of the Dolphins.... Now I just hate him.
This could be coming from above Sparano so as not to jeopardize the top pick. I still think btw that Murray will see split carries with either Mcfadder and/or Reece. The trend during week twelve seemed to be pointing that way until the concussion.
because organizations love losing so they can get a player who has never stepped on the field? Why do people continue to claim teams try to lose. Each victory is a little celebration. Did you see how happy they were after last win?
 
Considering Lat over Ingram and Crowell this coming weekend. He tore up the Chiefs on 4 carries before getting concussed just three weeks ago. He was on his way to a monster night before it got cut short.
considering the same. from week 9-14, chiefs have allowed:

139,111,204,179,214 and 141 yards rushing.

granted, coaching could pull one over on us and run DMC, MJD and marcel all day and see Lat get 4 carries.

the saints are a total crap shoot for me right now. ingram is not used when they get behind and they just let the panthers look like the greatest show on turf.

crowell may still split carries and not sure of the qb....

why not go with the homerun swing with murray
Not even sure if it's swing for the fences, straight up it might just be a good matchup.

 
So dumb to sit this kid. Unless theyre tanking, why not get him some reps? Season was lost weeks ago. Dmc and mjd have been ineffective or dinged. They waste Reece.

What a cluster F$&@
sure looked like they were tanking :roll eyes:
I don't blame people for not watching the Raiders, they haven't been particularly watchable, but even if you change the word 'tanking' to 'quitting' or 'checked out', the Raiders haven't looked like that all year, aside from maybe the Rams game, which certainly looked like a let down after their first win.

They've been in a lot of their games till the end, they haven't had an increase in dumb penalties, and have played hard, even at the end of games where the outcome was decided.

They look like a better team than the Bears, Skins, Jets, Jags, and Titans right now.

 
I’m trying to judge the matchup against KC and my head is spinning.

Yes the Chiefs have given up 136.8 rushing yards/game, 2nd most in the league only behind Tennessee. But they have only given up two rushing TD’s. The next closest is New England who has given up 5. The Chiefs defense have given up the least total touchdowns – just 22 on the year. I guess teams are kicking tons of field goals against them? I thought the matchup was juicy until I looked into it more.

 
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"TDs follow yards"

I see your point Najeh but I actually think LM may be undervalued by the weekly ranks and Fanduel pricing this week. Not many guys getting his share of the load (one week of history granted) and KC has been gashed in recent weeks. Murray fared well against a tough SF D. Fire him up.

 
"TDs follow yards"

I see your point Najeh but I actually think LM may be undervalued by the weekly ranks and Fanduel pricing this week. Not many guys getting his share of the load (one week of history granted) and KC has been gashed in recent weeks. Murray fared well against a tough SF D. Fire him up.
I agree. It's a good matchup and he just got 25 touches against a really good defense.

I'm starting him in both my leagues.

 
I’m trying to judge the matchup against KC and my head is spinning.

Yes the Chiefs have given up 136.8 rushing yards/game, 2nd most in the league only behind Tennessee. But they have only given up two rushing TD’s. The next closest is New England who has given up 5. The Chiefs defense have given up the least total touchdowns – just 22 on the year. I guess teams are kicking tons of field goals against them? I thought the matchup was juicy until I looked into it more.
But they have only given up two rushing TD’s...... to... who, again?

 
This is going to be tough. I've started J. Bell and his 24/30pts the past two weeks. But I'm facing an extremely tough opponent this week and I might role with Murray's upside.

 
He's running for me in the flex over other flex options like Denard Robinson and Mike Wallace.

Like the direction the Raiders are going in terms of his usage. He'll see a good number of touches, though keep expectations reasonable. Iam not expecting the same kind of performance against a Chiefs team who had little tape on him going into that game, and have some good specific tape on him now.

 
He's running for me in the flex over other flex options like Denard Robinson and Mike Wallace.

Like the direction the Raiders are going in terms of his usage. He'll see a good number of touches, though keep expectations reasonable. Iam not expecting the same kind of performance against a Chiefs team who had little tape on him going into that game, and have some good specific tape on him now.
I think they can watch all the tape they want but if they aren't executing it won't mean much. They just gave up 100 yards to the cards 4th string RB with Drew Stanton at QB.

Granted they are home this week but all I'm worried about is the coaching pulling a fast one or of course injury.

 
He's running for me in the flex over other flex options like Denard Robinson and Mike Wallace.

Like the direction the Raiders are going in terms of his usage. He'll see a good number of touches, though keep expectations reasonable. Iam not expecting the same kind of performance against a Chiefs team who had little tape on him going into that game, and have some good specific tape on him now.
I think they can watch all the tape they want but if they aren't executing it won't mean much. They just gave up 100 yards to the cards 4th string RB with Drew Stanton at QB.

Granted they are home this week but all I'm worried about is the coaching pulling a fast one or of course injury.
they didn't have any tape on that guy

 
He's running for me in the flex over other flex options like Denard Robinson and Mike Wallace.

Like the direction the Raiders are going in terms of his usage. He'll see a good number of touches, though keep expectations reasonable. Iam not expecting the same kind of performance against a Chiefs team who had little tape on him going into that game, and have some good specific tape on him now.
I think they can watch all the tape they want but if they aren't executing it won't mean much. They just gave up 100 yards to the cards 4th string RB with Drew Stanton at QB.Granted they are home this week but all I'm worried about is the coaching pulling a fast one or of course injury.
they didn't have any tape on that guy
they don't have any tape on me either, maybe I could get 100?
 
He's running for me in the flex over other flex options like Denard Robinson and Mike Wallace.

Like the direction the Raiders are going in terms of his usage. He'll see a good number of touches, though keep expectations reasonable. Iam not expecting the same kind of performance against a Chiefs team who had little tape on him going into that game, and have some good specific tape on him now.
I think they can watch all the tape they want but if they aren't executing it won't mean much. They just gave up 100 yards to the cards 4th string RB with Drew Stanton at QB.Granted they are home this week but all I'm worried about is the coaching pulling a fast one or of course injury.
they didn't have any tape on that guy
they don't have any tape on me either, maybe I could get 100?
Only if you had a stud like Drew Stanton at QB.

 
Rolling our boy out there this week in one game over Gore. That's not a hard one. The other league will be a tough decision between him and F-Jax.

 
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Mason, Lat or Gordon in a flex. Gordon should be a no-brainer but who knows with the circus in Cleveland. Mason's matchup is scary. I think a lot of have Lat but must have other reasonable options. Now is not the time to F up.

 
KC getting gashed on the ground lately. Murray is a strong RB play. His floor is a little lower than first thought though because he's not going to get all the 3rd down work.

 
Just watched the game and Murray got plenty of touches in the redzone. If he continues to get those opportunities he'll undoubtedly turn some of them into scores. He easily could have had two touchdowns Sunday.

 
Just watched the game and Murray got plenty of touches in the redzone. If he continues to get those opportunities he'll undoubtedly turn some of them into scores. He easily could have had two touchdowns Sunday.
good to know. thanks. it doesn't look like reece was getting any carries either, just 3rd down work I'm guessing?

 
Just watched the game and Murray got plenty of touches in the redzone. If he continues to get those opportunities he'll undoubtedly turn some of them into scores. He easily could have had two touchdowns Sunday.
good to know. thanks. it doesn't look like reece was getting any carries either, just 3rd down work I'm guessing?
Which hurts Murray's floor but idk man he looked good getting some tough yards against SF. He was protecting the ball well and showed good vision running in between the tackles against a good/decent run defense. Then there was a few runs where he broke loose and you see the speed. A couple other runs where there wasn't a lot of room but he would get 4-6 yards. He got smoked in the backfield too. He also showed some good presence of mind to go down inbounds instead of trying to get a few extra yards at the end of the game when they were trying to run the clock out.

 
I'm trying to figure out does Lat have a better opportunity this weekend than Blount, J. Stewart or D. Herron. All 3 seem to have relatively safe floors. Not sure how Cam being out may impact the running game there. Pats backfield is always dicey it seems. Colts still want to use T-Rich. I like Lat's volume. Just not sure. Playoffs aren't the time to be too cute when you don't need to be.

 
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I'm trying to figure out does Lat have a better opportunity this weekend than Blount, J. Stewart or D. Herron. All 3 seem to have relatively safe floors. Not sure how Cam being out may impact the running game there. Pats backfield is always dicey it seems. Colts still want to use T-Rich. I like Lat's volume. Just not sure. Playoffs aren't the time to be too cute when you don't need to be.
I would go J.Stew if Williams doesnt play. Blount is close, but otherwise I would go with Murray. Dan Herron is as dicey as Murray. I rather go with guaranteed touches in that case.

 
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