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RB Najee Harris, LAC (3 Viewers)

He won't be facing stacked boxes
:ponder: I beg to differ. Chargers have question marks on their O-line. Defenses know Harbaugh wants to run the rock. Do their WRs scare anyone? A second year WR, a journeyman in Williams, an inconsistent Johnston, and a rookie? And those TEs?! I know Pittsburgh didn't have much last year, but it could be argued their pass catchers were better than what the Chargers have now (obviously Chargers have a better QB than anything Pitt rolled out last year). May be a long year for all the LAC runners. ESPECIALLY if Dobbins comes back. No guarantee he signs any where else since open spots are drying up.
Question marks on the OL? This is a top-5 OL in the NFL. Having said that, I want no part of Najee, because I think Hampton just blows by him. I'm expecting Hampton to have a 65-35 split with Najee. Maybe Dobbins being back factors into that, at the moment I consider him to not be on the roster.
 
He won't be facing stacked boxes
:ponder: I beg to differ. Chargers have question marks on their O-line. Defenses know Harbaugh wants to run the rock. Do their WRs scare anyone? A second year WR, a journeyman in Williams, an inconsistent Johnston, and a rookie? And those TEs?! I know Pittsburgh didn't have much last year, but it could be argued their pass catchers were better than what the Chargers have now (obviously Chargers have a better QB than anything Pitt rolled out last year). May be a long year for all the LAC runners. ESPECIALLY if Dobbins comes back. No guarantee he signs any where else since open spots are drying up.
Question marks on the OL? This is a top-5 OL in the NFL. Having said that, I want no part of Najee, because I think Hampton just blows by him. I'm expecting Hampton to have a 65-35 split with Najee. Maybe Dobbins being back factors into that, at the moment I consider him to not be on the roster.
Dobbins just signed a one year deal with the Broncos!
 
I deleted the post. It's pretty unsubstantiated. There was a firework incident in his hometown and the only source of info are people who said he was there. No other real sources.
 
I deleted the post. It's pretty unsubstantiated. There was a firework incident in his hometown and the only source of info are people who said he was there. No other real sources.
But what if it is real? You could literally be the first to post it!
 
I deleted the post. It's pretty unsubstantiated. There was a firework incident in his hometown and the only source of info are people who said he was there. No other real sources.

Honestly, I see a story like that, and my first response is... 'highly speculative'. You know what? That's A-OK in my book. Because, the situation is now on my radar and it's something to keep an eye on.
 
I deleted the post. It's pretty unsubstantiated. There was a firework incident in his hometown and the only source of info are people who said he was there. No other real sources.

Honestly, I see a story like that, and my first response is... 'highly speculative'. You know what? That's A-OK in my book. Because, the situation is now on my radar and it's something to keep an eye on.
If you can't keep an eye on it, at least you've got your fingers on the pulse of the story...
 
I deleted the post. It's pretty unsubstantiated. There was a firework incident in his hometown and the only source of info are people who said he was there. No other real sources.

Honestly, I see a story like that, and my first response is... 'highly speculative'. You know what? That's A-OK in my book. Because, the situation is now on my radar and it's something to keep an eye on.
:ROFLMAO:

👁️ see what you did there.
 
For what its worth. Just saw this on rotoworld.

Yikes, so it's probably somewhat or entirely true?

Hope he's ok, seriously. Because when I googled this last night to see if it was real I came across a story of a firework related accident in Antioch and it sounded really bad. Recall reading something about someone in critical condition with bad burns and loss of fingers.
 
Statement from agent Doug Hendrickson on his client Chargers RB Najee Harris: “Najee Harris was present at a 4th of July event where a fireworks mishap resulted in injuries to several attendees. Najee sustained a superficial eye injury during the incident, but is fully expected to be ready for the upcoming NFL season.”
 
Statement from agent Doug Hendrickson on his client Chargers RB Najee Harris: “Najee Harris was present at a 4th of July event where a fireworks mishap resulted in injuries to several attendees. Najee sustained a superficial eye injury during the incident, but is fully expected to be ready for the upcoming NFL season.”
Old news. This site was all over this. Ha ha. Where there is smoke there is fire.
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.

And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
 
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That is awful. I hope it's as the agent says and he will be ready for the start of the year. Even just saying that seems to squash the idea of some of the worst rumors that were out there.
 
Now a drone show? That's something I can get behind.

They give me the glimmer of hope that I may actually witness the singularity and the beginning of the robot apocalypse.
My town in socal did a drone show this year. Actually pretty rad. Fireworks can also be tough for our vets.
 
That is awful. I hope it's as the agent says and he will be ready for the start of the year. Even just saying that seems to squash the idea of some of the worst rumors that were out there.

These guys lie for a living . . .

Just to clarify. I believe that there’s a huge probability he’s fine. But these guys lie . . .
 
That is awful. I hope it's as the agent says and he will be ready for the start of the year. Even just saying that seems to squash the idea of some of the worst rumors that were out there.

These guys lie for a living . . .

Just to clarify. I believe that there’s a huge probability he’s fine. But these guys lie . . .
Oh I know but did you see the earlier rumors? I won't repeat them but to me they aren't the kind of injuries an agent would try to sugarcoat as "gonna be ready for week 1".
 
That is awful. I hope it's as the agent says and he will be ready for the start of the year. Even just saying that seems to squash the idea of some of the worst rumors that were out there.

These guys lie for a living . . .

Just to clarify. I believe that there’s a huge probability he’s fine. But these guys lie . . .
I feel like we can at least assume he has all his fingers and eyes. Right?

Past that, yeah, it's possible he's dealing with some vision issues right now they hope will improve and notice his agent did not say he'd be ready for camp when the Chargers vets report which is just 6 days from now. I'll be interested in seeing his condition if he reports next week.
 
Now a drone show? That's something I can get behind.

They give me the glimmer of hope that I may actually witness the singularity and the beginning of the robot apocalypse.
My town in socal did a drone show this year. Actually pretty rad. Fireworks can also be tough for our vets.
Absolutely. Fireworks are a huge PTSD trigger. I feel bad for not mentioning it in my other post.
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.

And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises from my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
 
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I feel like we can at least assume he has all his fingers and eyes. Right?

I don't think we can assume much but we can state that there's a very, very strong probability he has his fingers and eyes physically intact. The question, and I suppose it's mainly about his eyes, is are they useful right now to the degree he will need them to be? If not, you've got a problem on your hands.

This isn't speculation. It's a question that is left unanswered. I suppose in the next day or two we'll get even more strident questions than the one I just asked and we'll have to take into account the player's medical privacy not only from the media and society, but also how the agent and player will use that shield to protect himself from his employer, who is really going to be the entity that wants to know what's up with this deal.
 
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That is awful. I hope it's as the agent says and he will be ready for the start of the year. Even just saying that seems to squash the idea of some of the worst rumors that were out there.

These guys lie for a living . . .

Just to clarify. I believe that there’s a huge probability he’s fine. But these guys lie . . .
Oh I know but did you see the earlier rumors? I won't repeat them but to me they aren't the kind of injuries an agent would try to sugarcoat as "gonna be ready for week 1".

Yes, and I noticed he said nothing about camp, which menobrown astutely pointed out. And I still don't trust an agent as far as I can throw him. His job is to make sure Najee gets paychecks and isn't an instant cut. I would guess that a roster bonus is part of his salary.

eta* A roster bonus is not part of his salary. He is signed for 5.25 million dollars guaranteed with 4 million potential in incentives.
 
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Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.

And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.

And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!

The terrified animals are dummies too? Or the veterans who have PTSD triggered? They are just horrible all around. Smart is not using them at all.
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.

And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
So, you researched all the reports of fireworks injuries and property damage and PTSD triggers and runaway pets and...
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.
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And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
So, you researched all the reports of fireworks injuries and property damage and PTSD triggers and runaway pets and...
Yep :hifive:
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.
i
And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
So, you researched all the reports of fireworks injuries and property damage and PTSD triggers and runaway pets and...
Yep :hifive:
Congratulations on living in the one place not impacted by the ~13,000+ injuries, ~14,000 fires, $21 million in property damage or 50% increase in runaway pets caused by fireworks annually.
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.
i
And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
So, you researched all the reports of fireworks injuries and property damage and PTSD triggers and runaway pets and...
Yep :hifive:
Two days on the calendar trigger me pretty good. Memorial day and July 4th. Both for obvious reasons. I always have a shrink session scheduled a day or two after each. It's my problem. I'm dealing with it. Zero chance id wouldn't want people to celebrate how they seem fit. Fireworks are part of it. Blast em up boys and girls. I just wish the sound of them werent so similar to mortar fire. Ha ha
 
Chargers beat writer Daniel Popper reported that, after the incident, Harris went to John Mir hospital and later to Stanford hospital for treatment. He said no other details are available beyond the agent's statement.
 
The question, and I suppose it's mainly about his eyes, is are they useful right now to the degree he will need them to be?
I'm with you and I don't think he's out of the woods yet in that respect. There is a non-zero chance the eye is such an issue the Chargers choose to part ways.


He is signed for 5.25 million dollars guaranteed with 4 million potential in incentives.
I can't be 100% sure on it, not sure if his contract would have to specifically prohibit handling of fireworks or just have broader language, but would have to think there is a chance this voids his contract if Chargers choose to do so, and possible recoup any bonus money already paid.
 
I can't be 100% sure on it, not sure if his contract would have to specifically prohibit handling of fireworks or just have broader language, but would have to think there is a chance this voids his contract if Chargers choose to do so, and possible recoup any bonus money already paid.

I remember twenty years or so ago being really into understanding morals clauses and other general indemnity contract clauses, but I no longer have any inkling of how contracts between players and clubs have evolved to prevent or dissuade this type of thing from happening while leaving the club on the hook for the money. I just don't know how it goes now, but I do know that they were once basically unenforceable clauses. I think the teams now try to insure themselves for the most part. Still going to be a 5.25 million dollar cap hit regardless. (I think.)
 
I can't be 100% sure on it, not sure if his contract would have to specifically prohibit handling of fireworks or just have broader language, but would have to think there is a chance this voids his contract if Chargers choose to do so, and possible recoup any bonus money already paid.

I remember twenty years or so ago being really into understanding morals clauses and other general indemnity contract clauses but I no longer have any inkling of how contracts between players and clubs have evolved to prevent or dissuade this type of thing from happening while leaving the club on the hook for the money. I just don't know how it goes now, but I do know that they were once basically unenforceable clauses. I think the teams now try to insure themselves for the most part. Still going to be a 5.25 million dollar cap hit regardless. (I think.)
I think they are off the hook for everything if they have grounds to void his contract.

Can they or will they want I don't know. I think all player contracts have a list of things they are prohibited from doing that could void their contract if injured. Stuff like sky diving, riding motorcycles,etc,etc. But like I said earlier not sure if that has some broad coverage if it does not specifically mention fireworks.

Or his eye could be fine and none of this is an option anyone is looking at taking.
 
Okay, I will stop being a downer about the way people choose to celebrate America's Birthday.

I'll end with the fact that there is nothing Patriotic about fireworks.
 
Fireworks suck.

You know I'm right.

I'm with you. It must be living in Southern California that does it. I don't get the fascination with them here when they're a serious property loss or personal injury waiting to happen.
Southern California has a particular level of risk, and sensitivity when it comes to fires, for sure but anywhere can burn down in July from a misfire.
i
And let's not forget the risk of injury and death from misfires. An 8 year old girl died from a misfire in Buena Park this year. And I read that Najee Harris's earballs may have caught fire from a misfire this year. I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of examples every year.

Fireworks are a massive PTSD trigger for veterans, first responders and survivors of gun violence.

In addition they terrify animals. Shelters are full of pets right now that panicked and ran away.

They also cause ridiculous air quality hazards and obnoxious noise pollution.

And they're boring.

No one over 11 years old should look forward to a fireworks show.
Take my explosive devises rom my cold, dead hands. I need to blow **** up!

Glad Najee is ok!
Fireworks are great and a traditional way to celebrate America's birthday. Our area was a 360 display for about 3 hours. No reports of anyone injured. A small amount of dummies have issues when they use them recklessly. Be smart and enjoy!!!!!!
So, you researched all the reports of fireworks injuries and property damage and PTSD triggers and runaway pets and...
Yep :hifive:
Congratulations on living in the one place not impacted by the ~13,000+ injuries, ~14,000 fires, $21 million in property damage or 50% increase in runaway pets caused by fireworks annually.
Thank you, although I seriously doubt it was the only place not impacted in the entire United States.

We have a lot of veterans in our neighborhood and most seemed to relish in the festivities. No property damage reported and nobody complaining about lost pets although some were not happy about the noise. I would think most responsible pet owners would have their pets inside. I know we did. I understand if you live on a farm or ranch and that isn't possible, but if you have domesticated pets and they ran away because of your ineptitude as a pet owner, then that's on you.

I certainly empathize with the Vets who struggle with fireworks, but as FarFromHome pointed out, stopping people from celebrating isn't the answer. Again, it's mostly a few dummies (in proportion to the amount of people who do fireworks) who cause the property damage by being irresponsible. But that happens in every aspect of life.
 
Chargers beat writer Daniel Popper reported that, after the incident, Harris went to John Mir hospital and later to Stanford hospital for treatment. He said no other details are available beyond the agent's statement.
Stanford Hospital in Palo Alto? That's about a two hour drive from John Muir Concord Medical Center. I was going to be scooping up Najee at his RB39 price tag, but this news has me at a loss.
 
My grandmother (RIP) lost one of her eyes from either a cherry bomb or m80, can’t remember which, at the hands of my drunk grandfather (RIP). Not sure, but I think it happened before I was born. She stayed with him.
 
My grandmother (RIP) lost one of her eyes from either a cherry bomb or m80, can’t remember which, at the hands of my drunk grandfather (RIP). Not sure, but I think it happened before I was born. She stayed with him.
Chargers probably have more options then women did in the 1800's.
I see what you did there, nice. Did they have cherry bombs and m80s in the 1800s? Maybe they did.
 
Chargers beat writer Daniel Popper reported that, after the incident, Harris went to John Mir hospital and later to Stanford hospital for treatment. He said no other details are available beyond the agent's statement.
Stanford Hospital in Palo Alto? That's about a two hour drive from John Muir Concord Medical Center. I was going to be scooping up Najee at his RB39 price tag, but this news has me at a loss.

I didn't know that. Stanford is ranked as a top 10 national hospital, and its Byers Eye Institute is very highly regarded:

The Byers Eye Institute at Stanford is highly regarded, consistently ranking among the top ophthalmology programs nationally. In 2021, it was ranked #5 in National Institutes of Health (NIH)-funded medical school departments of ophthalmology. Stanford University also holds the #4 spot for National Eye Institute-funded academic institutions according to Stanford Medicine. Additionally, Ophthalmology Times ranked it #12 for Best Overall Program and #9 for Best Research Program. The Byers Eye Institute has also climbed to #4 in NIH-funded ophthalmology departments.

I don't think we would know if this (assuming report is true) indicates a serious injury, or if it indicates simply getting treatment there out of an abundance of caution.
 
I don't think we would know if this (assuming report is true) indicates a serious injury, or if it indicates simply getting treatment there out of an abundance of caution.
Going to a top notch eye institute only 2 hours away isn't what concerns me. It's the fact that he went there so quickly after visiting another hospital. Did the doctor at John Muir Concord Medical Center take one look and say, screw this?
 

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