RB Najee Harris, LAC (3 Viewers)

[menobrown]

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What I would ask anyone who does not like the landing spot for Najee to please list the other places you'd have preferred to see him go.

I got one and I never thought it possible as I don't think they are in the market to pay a veteran RB.

Chargers would have been my second best option if I could have picked any team for him to land. ETA-and it's a superclose second.

Whatever happens after this with Chargers or any other team with RB additions we don't know. Just saying based on what we know right now I'd be curious exactly where other people would have preferred.

Totally depends on what else they do between now and the end of April.

All RB's are volume plays, but even moreso for him since he's incapable of creating explosive plays. He was a good player in our game when he net ~22 touches per game and 94 targets as a rook. Thereafter when he tailed to ~17 per and 40some targets give or take, not so much. Regardless, an additional variable needing considered are those targets - are the Bolts are going to use him more in the passing game than JK's 38 targets?

So, what alternative destinations would've been better? We'll see what else the team does at the position. If it's him / Vidal / Haskins / day 3 rook, probably none - that tells me they see him like they saw Frank Gore when they were in SF. But if they commit meaningful capital to anyone else he quickly becomes an undesirable starter / worthwhile depth.

Similar to March, don't over-react to last night. He's an undesirable starter, but he is worthwhile depth. Harbaugh / Roman want to throw to get ahead but then they want to run, run, and run some more. Expect Najee to lead in touches early in the season with opportunities for Hampton to earn more late in the season.

I think that's the size of it. In redraft leagues, Hampton is a great depth piece that you probably don't want to rely upon too early but can be big down the stretch. In keeper/dynasty, it's pretty much wheels up from the get-go, with only Jeanty ahead of him.

I think that might change tonight, feel it's more likely to then not.

 

[zamboni]

**scrolls up**

What I would ask anyone who does not like the landing spot for Najee to please list the other places you'd have preferred to see him go.

I got one and I never thought it possible as I don't think they are in the market to pay a veteran RB.

Chargers would have been my second best option if I could have picked any team for him to land. ETA-and it's a superclose second.

Whatever happens after this with Chargers or any other team with RB additions we don't know. Just saying based on what we know right now I'd be curious exactly where other people would have preferred.

Totally depends on what else they do between now and the end of April.

All RB's are volume plays, but even moreso for him since he's incapable of creating explosive plays. He was a good player in our game when he net ~22 touches per game and 94 targets as a rook. Thereafter when he tailed to ~17 per and 40some targets give or take, not so much. Regardless, an additional variable needing considered are those targets - are the Bolts are going to use him more in the passing game than JK's 38 targets?

So, what alternative destinations would've been better? We'll see what else the team does at the position. If it's him / Vidal / Haskins / day 3 rook, probably none - that tells me they see him like they saw Frank Gore when they were in SF. But if they commit meaningful capital to anyone else he quickly becomes an undesirable starter / worthwhile depth.

Similar to March, don't over-react to last night. He's an undesirable starter, but he is worthwhile depth. Harbaugh / Roman want to throw to get ahead but then they want to run, run, and run some more. Expect Najee to lead in touches early in the season with opportunities for Hampton to earn more late in the season.

I think that's the size of it. In redraft leagues, Hampton is a great depth piece that you probably don't want to rely upon too early but can be big down the stretch. In keeper/dynasty, it's pretty much wheels up from the get-go, with only Jeanty ahead of him.

I think that might change tonight, feel it's more likely to then not.

Could be, but the Chargers are right there among the top of the list for RB fantasy landing spots.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Two recent similar situations come to mind.

Detroit with Montgomery and Gibbs. This isn't a great comparison because these to back offer different styles.

• Montgomery - 14 Games, 219 Carries, 1015 Yards, 13 TD, 16 Recs, 117 Yards, 0 TD
• Gibbs - 15 Games, 182 Carries, 945 Yards, 10 TDs, 52 Rec, 316 Yards, 1 TD

A better comparison is Javonte and Gordon as they both had similar skillset.

• Javonte - 17 Games, 203 Carres, 903 Yards, 4 TD, 43 Rec., 316 Yards, 3 TD
• Gordon - 16 Games, 203 Carries, 918 Yards, 8 TD, 28 Rec., 213 Yards, 2 TD

Without injury to one of them or ridiculous volume (unlikely with a competent passing game) I think they both end up low end RB2 or high end RB3s. Who knows what happens in 2026.

Is that your projection for 2025 for Hampton, the Denver situation? That's what came to mind for you?
You see Hampton getting about 200 carries over 17 games? Maybe 10-12-14 carries a week sprinkled into the offense?

In a league where they pride themselves on not paying RBs or investing a lot into the position, the Bolts spent a 1st round pick!
This is a deep class and I kind of shame the Bolts, they could have found a quality RB to take half the load from Harris in the 3rd or 4th round so maybe they should get a big fat "F"
But the fact is they spent the No 22 pick on him, I think folks are being very short sighted in the approach here

It also confirms my opinion that Harbaugh wants Herbert throwing the ball no more than 6 times a game
Trying to keep it light but folks are way over selling Harris and his abilities, the Hampton selection confirms it
Harbaugh went Tackle at no 5 or 6 last year, the guy is measured in his process, Hampton is not going to be a part time player, he will see a lot more than 200 carries

I'm not trying to convince everyone, there's no need. If the public thinks Harris poses a major threat and Hampton slides down a round in redrafts, all the better.
I just think people like to gripe and complain and when RBs first arrive, all of them tend to start at the bottom of the depth chart thru camp and coaches use it as motivation

 

[ghostguy123]

Seems like he's the clear #2 pick in single QB league right?

 

[Chaka]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

 

[menobrown]

**scrolls up**

What I would ask anyone who does not like the landing spot for Najee to please list the other places you'd have preferred to see him go.

I got one and I never thought it possible as I don't think they are in the market to pay a veteran RB.

Chargers would have been my second best option if I could have picked any team for him to land. ETA-and it's a superclose second.

Whatever happens after this with Chargers or any other team with RB additions we don't know. Just saying based on what we know right now I'd be curious exactly where other people would have preferred.

Totally depends on what else they do between now and the end of April.

All RB's are volume plays, but even moreso for him since he's incapable of creating explosive plays. He was a good player in our game when he net ~22 touches per game and 94 targets as a rook. Thereafter when he tailed to ~17 per and 40some targets give or take, not so much. Regardless, an additional variable needing considered are those targets - are the Bolts are going to use him more in the passing game than JK's 38 targets?

So, what alternative destinations would've been better? We'll see what else the team does at the position. If it's him / Vidal / Haskins / day 3 rook, probably none - that tells me they see him like they saw Frank Gore when they were in SF. But if they commit meaningful capital to anyone else he quickly becomes an undesirable starter / worthwhile depth.

Similar to March, don't over-react to last night. He's an undesirable starter, but he is worthwhile depth. Harbaugh / Roman want to throw to get ahead but then they want to run, run, and run some more. Expect Najee to lead in touches early in the season with opportunities for Hampton to earn more late in the season.

I think that's the size of it. In redraft leagues, Hampton is a great depth piece that you probably don't want to rely upon too early but can be big down the stretch. In keeper/dynasty, it's pretty much wheels up from the get-go, with only Jeanty ahead of him.

OI think that might change tonight, feel it's more likely to then not.

Could be, but the Chargers are right there among the top of the list for RB fantasy landing spots.

It’s ok to me but for instance if Bears were to draft Henderson or Kaleb with one of their upcoming seconds I might prefer them

 

[Chemical X]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

maybe he pulls a chubba wubba?

 

[Mister CIA]

Super Elite Tier roster clogger.

 

[The Future Champs]

Super Elite Tier roster clogger.

Yup. Low ceiling, low floor.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

If Harris owners were irritated by the presence of Jaylen Warren, it just got worse.

 

[Chaka]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

maybe he pulls a chubba wubba?

If he's buying I'll go tubthumping with him.

 

[Blick]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

If Harris owners were irritated by the presence of Jaylen Warren, it just got worse.

Except its a MUCH better situation.

 

[Chaka]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

If Harris owners were irritated by the presence of Jaylen Warren, it just got worse.

Except its a MUCH better situation.

Better offensive line for sure. Also, far superior competition for sure.

 

[IHEARTFF]

this is such an NFL team does what's best for them and ignores FF extreme move

 

[JohnnyU]

No matter your opinion on usage I don't see how you can start him in most leagues, injuries aside.

 

[Tau837]

So kind of taking in both sides of the argument here on Najee it feels like a great target in redraft, a win now guy for playoff bound rosters in dynasty, and a screaming sell for everyone else in dynasty. He's already jumped from RB36 to RB30 since the trade. I think this could go up to a consensus ranking as a mid RB2 pretty easily in the next month. This would mark his highest value since pre-2023 season and probably a great time to shove him off to a RB needy team. You could roll the dice and hope for some bad rookie landing spots in the draft and that Chargers don't invest in one in the first 3 rounds and probably squeeze some more juice out of him in the market; but I think if you're not set up for a deep playoff run in your leagues this is a prime opportunity to sell at a high. If he does just plod his way to another low end RB2 season in a much better situation in LA I think you see his trade value cut in half. Especially considering at that point he'll be a FA again and 28 years old.

I think the Chargers are extremely likely to take a RB by round 4. A speedy compliment would make sense.

Isn’t Vidal already that guy?

Vidal isn't a lock to make the team. I think they'll want someone much more talented than Vidal.

I don't think he will make the final 53 man roster. I can't see him getting offensive snaps if Harris and Hampton are healthy, especially since his pass blocking is terrible. And Vidal played just 6 snaps on special teams last year. The other depth RB is Haskins, who is a better pass blocker and was 4th on the Chargers in special teams snaps. So Vidal is 4th on that depth chart at best.

 

[Zow]

Dude got Wally Pipped before even taking a snap with the Chargers.

maybe he pulls a chubba wubba?

If he's buying I'll go tubthumping with him.

Sounds like you'd be pissing the night away if you did that.

 

[Dez]

I came to the Najee thread to feel positive and I see him getting trashed, comped to Richardson.

I think he's a 4-5 year stud. And still not sure he's worth 1.1 only because.....

I love this class.

he's in a class with the best TE prospect I've ever seen who won't turn 21 until a few weeks into the season and a WR who if I combine his talent plus incoming situation I might have to go all the way back to Julio to find a WR I would have ranked higher entering the league.

Chase was the winner of the 3 headed horse race from 2021 and by a wide wide margin.

 

[menobrown]

I came to the Najee thread to feel positive and I see him getting trashed, comped to Richardson.

I think he's a 4-5 year stud. And still not sure he's worth 1.1 only because.....

I love this class.

he's in a class with the best TE prospect I've ever seen who won't turn 21 until a few weeks into the season and a WR who if I combine his talent plus incoming situation I might have to go all the way back to Julio to find a WR I would have ranked higher entering the league.

Chase was the winner of the 3 headed horse race from 2021 and by a wide wide margin.

By a wider margin then I would ever forecast.

After year one Najee and Pitts at least had high value. I just checked FFPC in June of 2022, when they were all heading into their second seasons, and in standard leagues Najee and Pitts were going 4 and 5 overall in startups.

That draft was really a big 5, if you include Javonte and ETN, and the value for everyone but Chase has dwindled down to peanuts.

 

[TheWinz]

No matter your opinion on usage I don't see how you can start him in most leagues, injuries aside.

Why not? David Montgomery finished RB18 last year on only 221 touches. That's a middle of the pack RB2 in a 12-team league, and most definitely a starter. Do you not think Najee will get a decent amount of touches?

 

[Faust]

Alex Insdorf
OC Greg Roman on the RB room:
-"blown away" by Najee Harris' knowledge of the game and movement skills
-Hampton: "really excited"

"Kimani's (Vidal) looking really good. He's really taken a step. He's got an extra gear this year. He's really asserting himself out there." ️

https://x.com/alexinsdorf99/status/1931049820053274904?s=61

Adam Koffler
The Chargers didn’t give Najee Harris $5.25M guaranteed to relegate him to Omarion Hampton’s backup

https://x.com/adamkoffler/status/1931107510410506433?s=61

Jeff Mueller, PT, DPT
Again, I understand how talented Omarion Hampton is (and eventually can be), but this backfield is going to be a committee.
And if Najee Harris does play well, it won’t surprise me one bit if LAC gives him an extension.

Could be frustrating for fantasy.

https://x.com/jmthrivept/status/1931066390095839443?s=61

 

[Big Nate]

I know there has been a lot of hate on Najee but he could have a great start to the year in this offense and system. They (obviously) didn't spend a high pick on Hampton to not play him but they are going to run a ton and Herbert could hit some check-downs to his RBs.

I may look to grab Najee on discount because at worst he is in a timeshare and someone who you can probably play at flex. And to start the year he will likely be the lead back being the vet and all. Never want to see injuries but if Hampton gets dinged up the Najee to the moon.

Just wait till all the camp hype comes out on Hampton pushing Najee's value lower.... can't wait to get him cheap.

 

[TheWinz]

I know there has been a lot of hate on Najee but he could have a great start to the year in this offense and system. They (obviously) didn't spend a high pick on Hampton to not play him but they are going to run a ton and Herbert could hit some check-downs to his RBs.

I may look to grab Najee on discount because at worst he is in a timeshare and someone who you can probably play at flex. And to start the year he will likely be the lead back being the vet and all. Never want to see injuries but if Hampton gets dinged up the Najee to the moon.

Just wait till all the camp hype comes out on Hampton pushing Najee's value lower.... can't wait to get him cheap.

Agreed. I love the H & H duo, but in redraft at least, the smart play is Najee. FBG's current rankings have Hampton at RB22 and Harris at RB37. That's about an early 6th rounder vs a late 10th rounder. I know the Chargers play a slower game, but why can't the duo do better? Last year, DET and TB both had RB's in the top 20, and JAC, SEA, and WAS had 2 in the top 36. Just like you, I'm hoping as the Hampton hype train gains momentum, it leaves Najee behind, instead of boosting him too.

 

[menobrown]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

 

[sm8680]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers. He won't be facing stacked boxes, and they may utilize him more in the passing game. Chargers' offense will be way more creative as well. However, he's splitting the back field which could save wear and tear on his body. I'm not saying he's an RB1 or RB2. Are you considering him an RB3?

 

[menobrown]

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers.

Just not how I see it and its a bummer as I was excited about him when they signed him but that got dealt a blow when they took Hampton. And Najee sucks just as much for Hampton.

I think the Chargers offense is better then he's dealt with but they got issues as well and Roman as the OC who everyone hated just two two years ago is hard for me to envision as some guru who will unlock Najee. They got some issues on their OL as well. Again I'd say the Chargers on the whole are a better eco-system, but not so much to withstand the loss of volume I expect.

Are you considering him an RB3?

I'd have him just inside my top 36 PPG PPR forecast for RB's but not by a lot.

Just for me the bottom line is Najee's been averaging 300 touches every year since his rookie season and has turned that into RB20, RB31 and RB27 PPR seasons in PPG and I don't think he's getting 300 touches with a healthy Hampton.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

Agreed this is the likely outcome. But there’s a different outcome where Hampton gets hurt and Najee is the bell cow in a run heavy offense. Or maybe Najee is rejuvenated in a new environment and has that big unexpected year we see out of a surprise RB every season. At his cost (10th-11th round?) - I love him as an RB 3 with upside.

My biggest hang up is the Chargers below average LG and C. Unless they play better, inside running will be difficult.

 

[sm8680]

Well said Menobrown I have a soft spot for Najee great teammate. Bad offense in Pittsburgh. Faced stacked boxes and for at least 2 plus years he played under the worst OC in NFL history.

 

[Tau837]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers. He won't be facing stacked boxes, and they may utilize him more in the passing game. Chargers' offense will be way more creative as well. However, he's splitting the back field which could save wear and tear on his body. I'm not saying he's an RB1 or RB2. Are you considering him an RB3?

Why would you think they would utilize him more in the passing game? Last season, the Chargers targeted their RBs 51 times in the regular season, compared to 109 RB targets for the Steelers. His passing game usage is going down, likely by quite a bit.

Also, you reference the Chargers offense being creative (presumably as relates to RBs). You are aware that Greg Roman is the OC, right?

 

[sm8680]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers. He won't be facing stacked boxes, and they may utilize him more in the passing game. Chargers' offense will be way more creative as well. However, he's splitting the back field which could save wear and tear on his body. I'm not saying he's an RB1 or RB2. Are you considering him an RB3?

Why would you think they would utilize him more in the passing game? Last season, the Chargers targeted their RBs 51 times in the regular season, compared to 109 RB targets for the Steelers. His passing game usage is going down, likely by quite a bit.

Also, you reference the Chargers offense being creative (presumably as relates to RBs). You are aware that Greg Roman is the OC, right?

What team did Najee play for last year?

 

[TheWinz]

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers.

Just not how I see it and its a bummer as I was excited about him when they signed him but that got dealt a blow when they took Hampton. And Najee sucks just as much for Hampton.

I think the Chargers offense is better then he's dealt with but they got issues as well and Roman as the OC who everyone hated just two two years ago is hard for me to envision as some guru who will unlock Najee. They got some issues on their OL as well. Again I'd say the Chargers on the whole are a better eco-system, but not so much to withstand the loss of volume I expect.

Are you considering him an RB3?

I'd have him just inside my top 36 PPG PPR forecast for RB's but not by a lot.

Just for me the bottom line is Najee's been averaging 300 touches every year since his rookie season and has turned that into RB20, RB31 and RB27 PPR seasons in PPG and I don't think he's getting 300 touches with a healthy Hampton.

When I check Najee`s stats, he has finished as a RB1 in the 2 years over 300 touches, and an RB2 in the 2 years under 300 touches.

 

[menobrown]

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers.

Just not how I see it and its a bummer as I was excited about him when they signed him but that got dealt a blow when they took Hampton. And Najee sucks just as much for Hampton.

I think the Chargers offense is better then he's dealt with but they got issues as well and Roman as the OC who everyone hated just two two years ago is hard for me to envision as some guru who will unlock Najee. They got some issues on their OL as well. Again I'd say the Chargers on the whole are a better eco-system, but not so much to withstand the loss of volume I expect.

Are you considering him an RB3?

I'd have him just inside my top 36 PPG PPR forecast for RB's but not by a lot.

Just for me the bottom line is Najee's been averaging 300 touches every year since his rookie season and has turned that into RB20, RB31 and RB27 PPR seasons in PPG and I don't think he's getting 300 touches with a healthy Hampton.

When I check Najee`s stats, he has finished as a RB1 in the 2 years over 300 touches, and an RB2 in the 2 years under 300 touches.

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20
284-RB31
299-RB27

Basically averages 299 touches and a RB26 finish.

BTW those numbers are over 18 weeks which I thought apt since I was using his total touches. If we slice off that last non-fantasy week he's even worse and finishes as RB21, RB34 and RB29 .

 

[TheWinz]

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers.

Just not how I see it and its a bummer as I was excited about him when they signed him but that got dealt a blow when they took Hampton. And Najee sucks just as much for Hampton.

I think the Chargers offense is better then he's dealt with but they got issues as well and Roman as the OC who everyone hated just two two years ago is hard for me to envision as some guru who will unlock Najee. They got some issues on their OL as well. Again I'd say the Chargers on the whole are a better eco-system, but not so much to withstand the loss of volume I expect.

Are you considering him an RB3?

I'd have him just inside my top 36 PPG PPR forecast for RB's but not by a lot.

Just for me the bottom line is Najee's been averaging 300 touches every year since his rookie season and has turned that into RB20, RB31 and RB27 PPR seasons in PPG and I don't think he's getting 300 touches with a healthy Hampton.

When I check Najee`s stats, he has finished as a RB1 in the 2 years over 300 touches, and an RB2 in the 2 years under 300 touches.

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20
284-RB31
299-RB27

Basically averages 299 touches and a RB26 finish.

BTW those numbers are over 18 weeks which I thought apt since I was using his total touches. If we slice off that last non-fantasy week he's even worse and finishes as RB21, RB34 and RB29 .

I'm confused????? I thought he was entering his 5th season.

 

[TheWinz]

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20

Your scoring must differ from all the dropdown options on FBG's Player Stats. Nowhere is he that low that I can find.

 

[menobrown]

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers.

Just not how I see it and its a bummer as I was excited about him when they signed him but that got dealt a blow when they took Hampton. And Najee sucks just as much for Hampton.

I think the Chargers offense is better then he's dealt with but they got issues as well and Roman as the OC who everyone hated just two two years ago is hard for me to envision as some guru who will unlock Najee. They got some issues on their OL as well. Again I'd say the Chargers on the whole are a better eco-system, but not so much to withstand the loss of volume I expect.

Are you considering him an RB3?

I'd have him just inside my top 36 PPG PPR forecast for RB's but not by a lot.

Just for me the bottom line is Najee's been averaging 300 touches every year since his rookie season and has turned that into RB20, RB31 and RB27 PPR seasons in PPG and I don't think he's getting 300 touches with a healthy Hampton.

When I check Najee`s stats, he has finished as a RB1 in the 2 years over 300 touches, and an RB2 in the 2 years under 300 touches.

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20
284-RB31
299-RB27

Basically averages 299 touches and a RB26 finish.

BTW those numbers are over 18 weeks which I thought apt since I was using his total touches. If we slice off that last non-fantasy week he's even worse and finishes as RB21, RB34 and RB29 .

I'm confused????? I thought he was entering his 5th season.

Bolded, did not really think his 381 rookie touch season was even worth bringing up.

 

[menobrown]

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20

Your scoring must differ from all the dropdown options on FBG's Player Stats. Nowhere is he that low that I can find.

It's almost exactly the same to point I'm not sure what your point is right now? If you want to argue something just to argue something please go find someone else.

If you sort by this sites, which he's RB19 vs RB20 in my leagues, RB32 vs RB31 in my leagues and RB26 vs RB27 in my leagues.

 

[Tau837]

Problem with Najee in a split backfield is he has almost zero upside and not even an overly high floor. He can get you through some weeks at RB but you'll likely never feel great about starting him or always be hunting to upgrade so long as Hampton is in the mix or when back to catching like 4 passes a game like he did as a rookie.

He has way more upside with the Chargers than Steelers. He won't be facing stacked boxes, and they may utilize him more in the passing game. Chargers' offense will be way more creative as well. However, he's splitting the back field which could save wear and tear on his body. I'm not saying he's an RB1 or RB2. Are you considering him an RB3?

Why would you think they would utilize him more in the passing game? Last season, the Chargers targeted their RBs 51 times in the regular season, compared to 109 RB targets for the Steelers. His passing game usage is going down, likely by quite a bit.

Also, you reference the Chargers offense being creative (presumably as relates to RBs). You are aware that Greg Roman is the OC, right?

What team did Najee play for last year?

So your post refers to my second point and ignores my first?

 

[TheWinz]

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20

Your scoring must differ from all the dropdown options on FBG's Player Stats. Nowhere is he that low that I can find.

It's almost exactly the same to point I'm not sure what your point is right now? If you want to argue something just to argue something please go find someone else.

If you sort by this sites, which he's RB19 vs RB20 in my leagues, RB32 vs RB31 in my leagues and RB26 vs RB27 in my leagues.

I am not trying to argue just to argue,but we must be looking at different lists. Where you have him RB20 in 2022, I see him as RB12. Where you have him RB31 in 2023, I see him as RB23. And where you have him RB27 in 2024, I see him as RB21. Those are huge differences. I'm using FBGs historical stats and choosing PPR scoring.

 

[menobrown]

I am not trying to argue just to argue

Being willfully obtuse is birds of the same feather.

 

[Big Nate]

My standard PPR/FFPC leagues PPG finishes:

313-RB20

Your scoring must differ from all the dropdown options on FBG's Player Stats. Nowhere is he that low that I can find.

It's almost exactly the same to point I'm not sure what your point is right now? If you want to argue something just to argue something please go find someone else.

If you sort by this sites, which he's RB19 vs RB20 in my leagues, RB32 vs RB31 in my leagues and RB26 vs RB27 in my leagues.

RB4, RB15, RB20 and RB20. startable in a lot of leagues. Helped me win a number of games the last 2 years playing him as flex.

Lots of good points brought up in this thread but the finishes are not correct as the other poster mentioned.

He split time in PIT and was still flex-able. Going to a better offence this year where he will still likely split time. Better O-line and WAY better QB.

No doubt the Hampton signing hurt but let's see how things shake out. Hampton could be a fantastic back but Najee is the vet and I expect will start and play the key downs where he needs to execute the offense and protect Herbert.

See how quickly Hampton gets up to speed to the NFL.

 

[menobrown]

Did I wake up in a world where people are going to really try and tell me they don't know what PPG means on a fantasy message board?

 

[Big Nate]

Did I wake up in a world where people are going to really try and tell me they don't know what PPG means on a fantasy message board?

We all know, but your numbers are messed up.

 

[menobrown]

Did I wake up in a world where people are going to really try and tell me they don't know what PPG means on a fantasy message board?

We all know, but your numbers are messed up.

How so?

 

[Big Nate]

Did I wake up in a world where people are going to really try and tell me they don't know what PPG means on a fantasy message board?

We all know, but your numbers are messed up.

How so?

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up. I guess what I am trying to get at is Najee was a decent flex play the last 2 years on a bad team with a bad offense and in a time share.

I expect similar numbers at least for this year, being in a timeshare but on a better offense with a better O-line and better QB play. I think he could be a decent flex play and he won't cost you a lot.

I was disappointed when they signed Hampton but it doesn't mean it is over for Najee - just don't overpay for him. I think Najee gets a bad rap and he's finished no worse than RB23 in PPR and RB20 in half ppr. RB2 at least in all his 4 seasons with potential of RB1 if Hampton happens to get injured or is slow coming out of the gates this year.

 

[menobrown]

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up.

Then I'd encourage you both to submit a ticket to support to see how to sort out PPG vs total points.

 

[warpig33]

He won't be facing stacked boxes

I beg to differ. Chargers have question marks on their O-line. Defenses know Harbaugh wants to run the rock. Do their WRs scare anyone? A second year WR, a journeyman in Williams, an inconsistent Johnston, and a rookie? And those TEs?! I know Pittsburgh didn't have much last year, but it could be argued their pass catchers were better than what the Chargers have now (obviously Chargers have a better QB than anything Pitt rolled out last year). May be a long year for all the LAC runners. ESPECIALLY if Dobbins comes back. No guarantee he signs any where else since open spots are drying up.

 

[joey]

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up.

Then I'd encourage you both to submit a ticket to support to see how to sort out PPG vs total points.

FBG Player stats pages are good for this. Here’s 2024, PPR scoring, sorted by PPG…

Player Historical Stats

Statistics for previous years of the NFL

www.footballguys.com

 

[TheWinz]

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up.

Then I'd encourage you both to submit a ticket to support to see how to sort out PPG vs total points.

Here are the links to each of his PPG finishes, per FBG...
2024 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2024&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2023 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2023&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2022 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2022&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2021 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2021&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p

Are you trying to say FBG's stats are wrong for 4 straight years? If you have different finishes, a link would be nice.

 

[menobrown]

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up.

Then I'd encourage you both to submit a ticket to support to see how to sort out PPG vs total points.

Here are the links to each of his PPG finishes, per FBG...
2024 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2024&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2023 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2023&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2022 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2022&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2021 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2021&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p

Are you trying to say FBG's stats are wrong for 4 straight years? If you have different finishes, a link would be nice.

No I'm saying unless you click FP/G, which sorts it by PPG, you are looking at a list of total PPR points.

 

[TheWinz]

I see the same rankings as TheWiz when I look it up.

Then I'd encourage you both to submit a ticket to support to see how to sort out PPG vs total points.

Here are the links to each of his PPG finishes, per FBG...
2024 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2024&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2023 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2023&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2022 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2022&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p
2021 - https://www.footballguys.com/playerhistoricalstats?pos=rb&yr=2021&startwk=1&stopwk=18&profile=p

Are you trying to say FBG's stats are wrong for 4 straight years? If you have different finishes, a link would be nice.

No I'm saying unless you click FP/G, which sorts it by PPG, you are looking at a list of total PPR points.

Yes, I realized that just after I sent the links. It was just miscommunication by us. He did actually finish as an overall RB1 or RB2 in each of his 4 seasons. I was sorting by overall stats using PPR. I thought you were talking about some weird scoring system. As you can see by the other posters, I really wasn't trying to argue just to argue, but if you choose to think that, be my guest.