BlackCrowes
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What the actual injury?
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RB Omarion Hampton, LAC (3 Viewers)
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It's his ankle. Being put on IR so quickly must mean it's a high ankle sprain. At the least.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Same hereI don't normally handcuff, but did in one redraft with Connor/Benson and Hampton/Najee. You know, just to be safe
zamboni
Footballguy
If he don’t look good, we don’t look good.
Tau837
Footballguy
Sign somebody else like who off the street who would be able to actually make an impact? There is no one.
Saying maybe they'll sign somebody doesn't mean I'm saying they'll make an impact.
In fact, if they sign somebody, it will make the situation even worse.
zamboni
Footballguy
Surprisingly there often are guys who have kept in shape and have come off the couch to produce. Can’t come up with names right now and not sure the Chargers will go that route, but because RB can be plug and play, I wouldn’t rule it out. But whoever it is is going to be running behind a decimated OL either way.
Tau837
Footballguy
Fair enough. I don't think there is anyone impactful available, and I'll stand by that until and unless I see them sign someone who proves me wrong.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
What a missed opportunity for Raheim Sanders. He was sitting on the UDFA RB lotto winner.
According to Schefter they just made it official 5 minutes ago.
Boston
Footballguy
Boooooo...
Proteus
Footballguy
So...when he had to share the backfield with Najee, he was looking like a bust.
How's it gonna be when he has to share with Vidal?
I mean Dowdle is being treated like a full blown Wally Pipp situation, even tho Chubba is most likely coming back well before Hampton.
I'm not saying this is the same situation or that the talent gap is even similar, but given that Hampton's injury report has gone from bad to worse, isn't anyone worried that Hampton goes back to the way he was when sharing with Najee?
As a Hampton GM, I really wish I'd bid higher for Vidal at this point. But that's water under the bridge.
Are we kinda screwed here?
How's it gonna be when he has to share with Vidal?
I mean Dowdle is being treated like a full blown Wally Pipp situation, even tho Chubba is most likely coming back well before Hampton.
I'm not saying this is the same situation or that the talent gap is even similar, but given that Hampton's injury report has gone from bad to worse, isn't anyone worried that Hampton goes back to the way he was when sharing with Najee?
As a Hampton GM, I really wish I'd bid higher for Vidal at this point. But that's water under the bridge.
Are we kinda screwed here?
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Tau837
Footballguy
First, I'll admit I didn't see that performance by Vidal coming. He showed nothing like that last season or in camp/preaseason. I'm skeptical it will continue.
As for Vidal vs. Hampton, Hampton is better at everything. I could see Vidal getting some touches to spell Hampton once Hampton is healthy and back, but forcing a full blown committee seems like a stretch to me.
electric Ape
Footballguy
I think your statement that this is not the same situation as what's happening in Carolina or a similar talent gap is the key.
Vidal was an offseason darling his rookie year but he has a 10 game sample in 2024 where he looked unimpressive. One game vs the lowly Miami D should not cause us to revise our opinion of him too much. Dowdle actually played well in 2024 so it simply isn't very useful to compare these guys.
I would argue that Vidal's performance week 6 is actually good news for Hampton owners. There were reports that the Chargers were aggressively exploring the RB trade market with names like Breece Hall and Kamara being thrown around. As a Hampton owner you'd much rather him share a backfield with Vidal than a Hall or Kamara caliber player. Hampton's near 100% snap-share right after the Najee injury was likely not sustainable but ceding a few snaps to Vidal when Hampton returns is not such a bad outcome IMO
rockaction
Footballguy
I wouldn’t be worried about Vidal but I would be worried about what is wrong with Hampton's foot. I was reminded on Twitter/X the other day by that Jeff Mueller guy (one of the main guys who tweets diagnoses of injuries in a roundabout way without seeing the player as a patient, ahem) that the NFL does not have to talk about the severity of the injury or the exact nature of it—they only have to name the body part, whether or not the player practiced, whether their practice was limited or full if they did, and what their status for the upcoming game is in that report. Hampton is on the IR until at least Week 10 and many are speculating that it will be beyond that date.
People are speculating this because the Chargers admitted they were in the market for an RB, which is probably as bad of news as them trading for a specific back like Kamara (that was never going to happen this week) or Hall (that also is unlikely for a bunch of reasons, but I would watch a little more closely after, per Connor Hughes, Hall posted “Free 20” on his Instagram account after Sunday’s game, which must have so endeared him to the Jets’ brass). They Chargers play it vague under Harbaugh regarding injuries they don’t have to report upon (Najee) and John Harbaugh is the same as Jim.
People are speculating this because the Chargers admitted they were in the market for an RB, which is probably as bad of news as them trading for a specific back like Kamara (that was never going to happen this week) or Hall (that also is unlikely for a bunch of reasons, but I would watch a little more closely after, per Connor Hughes, Hall posted “Free 20” on his Instagram account after Sunday’s game, which must have so endeared him to the Jets’ brass). They Chargers play it vague under Harbaugh regarding injuries they don’t have to report upon (Najee) and John Harbaugh is the same as Jim.
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Its Hampton's job when he comes back. End of story. Vidal had a nice game against a bottom of the barrel defense. Nice to see he can do that. Let's see Vidal do it against Indy, before thinking he's anywhere near the threat Najee was.
As an aside, I think people are overreacting to Dowdle as well. I don't think he's taking Hubbard's starting job (a bigger role than before, sure) and people would be wise to notice he also played Miami in these 2 games. Watch Judkins go for 150+ yards this week, as long as the Browns don't fall behind big instantly.
electric Ape
Footballguy
Agreed. This is one of the murkier injury situations out there. Low ankle sprain? Mild high ankle sprain? Severe high ankle sprain? Foot injury? Has anyone seen a credible report on the nature of the injury? All I've seen is conflicting reports (only 4 games missed then definitely more than 4 games missed) and even the Twitter docs can't seem to find the injury on Hampton's game tape. When you find yourself hoping it's "only" a mild high ankle sprain that ain't great...
rockaction
Footballguy
Yup. They were showing him colliding with Luvu about a play or two before he left and didn’t return. It looked like Luvu and Hampton clipped and collided. Luvu has been known to be a bit rough, but don’t let the editorializing of this tweet sway you necessarily. This is the play from what I’ve been hearing. So this guy is a bent Chargers fan but this is what I could find.
The Chargers are being cryptic. I don’t think the Chargers have a ton of money either operationally or cap-wise, and I don’t think they’d want to absorb either Kamara’s cap hit or give Hall a new deal (see the Hall thread) with an extension, especially with first-round salary and draft capital just having been used this past spring of 2025.
I was going to say something about Hall not wanting to go until there was an extension, and although in the time I've been looking into this it seems teams do not acquire guys who don’t really want to be shipped out, Cle/Jax and LA/Baltimore seem to have surprised the guys in their respective trades just a week ago and didn’t try and get their consent at all, so maybe that’s not even close to the case when a team controls the player’s rights. I am, unfortunately for me and fortunately for the hypothetical club, not anybody’s NFL GM.
zoonation
Footballguy
Kamara has already said he isn't leaving NO.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Great, but that’s the Saints choice, not Kamara’s. Perhaps they are in agreement.
brewer
Footballguy
It was reported that he has a no-trade clause in his contract.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh. I’ve been writing about Kamara in the Kendre Miller and Alvin Kamara thread at length. I just didn’t cover it here in detail. I did not think he wanted to leave New Orleans nor did they really want to deal him. I went into his cap and the Saints’ cap in painstaking detail. I also said I thought he and Loomis might be trying to drive up the price of the return another team gives in trade to the Saints while also having them pick up the last year of Kamara’s non-guaranteed 2026 salary ($8.5M) in the form of a guarantee or a restructure with a pro-rated signing bonus to essentially equal the 8.5M but to help the other club spread out the cap hit for 2026 an into the future.
But I honestly decided that the beat reporters might actually be right and that Nick Underhill of NOLA.com and now independent journalist (I think he was with NOLA.com) is reporting it accurately and the Kamara does not want to leave and Loomis isn’t that moved to trade him for fan and cap reasons. So that’s where I’m at right now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No, he doesn’t.
brewer
Footballguy
Found the link from yesterday - https://x.com/JustinDavidKish/status/1977613706906485016
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He doesn’t have a no trade clause. I believe that twitter remark is incorrect. Anyone else want to chime in?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
AI Overview
No, Alvin Kamara does not have a no-trade clause; however, there is a possibility he could approve a trade, as he has expressed allegiance to the Saints and desire to retire in New Orleans, making a trade unlikely. His contract does not include a no-trade clause, but it is important to note that he would have to approve any trade, which would make it very difficult for the Saints to move him without his consent.
No, Alvin Kamara does not have a no-trade clause; however, there is a possibility he could approve a trade, as he has expressed allegiance to the Saints and desire to retire in New Orleans, making a trade unlikely. His contract does not include a no-trade clause, but it is important to note that he would have to approve any trade, which would make it very difficult for the Saints to move him without his consent.
- No no-trade clause:
Kamara's contract does not include a no-trade clause, which is a clause that would prevent his team from trading him without his permission.
- Trade approval:
While he does not have a no-trade clause, he would still have to approve any trade to a new team.
- Unlikely to be traded:
Kamara has repeatedly expressed his loyalty to the Saints and his desire to retire in New Orleans, making a trade very unlikely.
- Contract status:
Kamara is on a 2-year, \$24.5 million contract extension that will keep him with the Saints through the 2026 season.
rockaction
Footballguy
JohnnyU, you have to verify AI. You cannot take it as fact. I do it all the time. It spits out stuff that isn’t right. I use it but you have to source it and verify what it is telling you.
Now, is that one source from Twitter right? I don’t think so. But AI is not going to disprove it. That is because NFL contracts and their provisions and clauses are NOT always public. The player’s association will often make details public so that the players know what an appropriate salary is. They apparently have a database at the NFLPA and also the agents and teams will tell the press what to report because it suits their interest. There are public filings from which the places that do the public-facing salary cap actually reconstruct the contracts from (Over The Cap and Spotrac).
So you actually do not know that he does not have a no-trade clause because it could be private. Why? Because it’s leverage in negotiations with other teams.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I had read in other places his contract didn’t include a no trade clause. Too lazy to research further.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Worse than whether it's accurate or not is the redundancy, and the weird presentation of the first sentence altogether.
rockaction
Footballguy
Didn’t catch that. Good job. I think it’s because writing has gotten so bad in my lifetime that I only glean for facts and not style from most writers and outlets. People can tell if AI is writing? I sure as hell can’t. You’re telling me that you can tell the difference between Sports Illustrated in 1996 and AI in 2025? Kudos to you, sir!
I’m only sort of kidding.
Tau837
Footballguy
The Chargers do not have cap space right now. They have about $2.1M functionally available after accounting for remaining in-season expenses (e.g., active roster, IR, practice squad, practice squad activations, etc.). They will presumably get several players back from IR during the season, which will generate cap credit by pushing others off the active roster... that should generate at least $2M in cap credit... as long as it is not offset by more players going on IR.
They could restructure a veteran contract to clear some space, but it doesn't seem like something GM Hortiz would be likely to do in order to bring in a short term expensive rental like Kamara or Hall.
They could restructure a veteran contract to clear some space, but it doesn't seem like something GM Hortiz would be likely to do in order to bring in a short term expensive rental like Kamara or Hall.
Marauder
Footballguy
FWIW, Here's what ChatGPT says about it.
Does Alvin Kamara have a no-trade clause in his contract?
Contracts with such clauses (which prevent a team from trading the player without consent) are relatively rare in the NFL, especially for non-quarterbacks or non-superstars.
If you like, I can dig into his specific extension (2024–2026) and see if there is any language suggesting trade protections. Do you want me to look into that?
Here’s what the sources do tell us:
If you want, I can look into contract filings or insider reports to see if there’s any hidden or unreported clause. Do you want me to try that?
Thought for 7s
Short answer: No publicly reported no-trade clause.
What I checked and what it shows:
Does Alvin Kamara have a no-trade clause in his contract?
ChatGPT said:
I could not find any credible source indicating that Alvin Kamara has a no-trade clause in his contract.Contracts with such clauses (which prevent a team from trading the player without consent) are relatively rare in the NFL, especially for non-quarterbacks or non-superstars.
If you like, I can dig into his specific extension (2024–2026) and see if there is any language suggesting trade protections. Do you want me to look into that?
You said:
yesChatGPT said:
I did a review of publicly available sources, and I found no evidence that Alvin Kamara’s contract (including the 2024 extension) includes a no-trade clause or similar trade protection.Here’s what the sources do tell us:
- Kamara signed a two-year extension in October 2024 with the Saints, through the 2026 season. CBS Sports+3neworleanssaints.com+3ESPN.com+3
- That extension carries $22.23 million (or similar) in guarantees and a $15.5 million signing bonus. CBS Sports+4Over the Cap+4Spotrac+4
- Contract‐tracking sites (e.g. OverTheCap) list his contract details but do not mention any trade restrictions. Over the Cap+2Pro Football Rumors+2
- Media reports, announcements of the extension, and commentary surrounding it make no reference to a no-trade clause. CBS Sports+3ESPN.com+3FOX Sports+3
If you want, I can look into contract filings or insider reports to see if there’s any hidden or unreported clause. Do you want me to try that?
You said:
yes, please.ChatGPT said:
Thought for 7s
Short answer: No publicly reported no-trade clause.
What I checked and what it shows:
- Contract trackers list his October 2024 two-year extension and guarantees but show no trade-protection language. Over the Cap+1
- The Saints/NFL reporting about the extension (NFL.com, ESPN, team site) describe the deal but make no mention of a no-trade clause. If one existed it would very likely be reported. NFL.com+2ESPN.com+2
- Recent reporting about trade interest explicitly notes Kamara does not have a no-trade clause and that the team checked with him about his willingness to be moved. That piece cites league sources and front-office conversations. Pro Football Rumors+1
rockaction
Footballguy
Man, they don’t make it public unless the player, agent, or team says they agreed to one. It’s not commonly reported on by teams. Therefore, there wouldn’t be any evidence of it. I just . . . AI isn’t going to be able to tell you. Trust me, AI can’t even click on “Post-June 1st” at Over The Cap to give the right numbers, never mind find a contract that isn’t public record and is only public because it’s good business for the teams and agents to have it known. (eta* forgot the player’s association—that’s the main arm that drives these private agreements public)
As soon as it comes to non-cash items, which aren’t considered against the cap, the teams, agents, and players remain awfully silent.
DO NOT construe this as me saying Kamara has a no-trade clause. I don’t trust the source linked to. But you wouldn’t and won’t know until the acquiring gives Kamara his full 2026 salary plus some with a guarantee to sweeten the deal.
I also honestly think the dude just wants to stay in New Orleans anyway and Pacheco is running aight enough and as Tau said, LA can’t afford him.
I guess we will see but the whole no-trade clause does/doesn’t thing is pointless because you won’t and may never know.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know what? It wasn’t that bad. We had information that needed to be straightened out and it got straightened out. Now people know that we only hear about the details of the contracts only if it serves one of the interests of the parties to the contract (or it follows an
historical pattern somebody can reconstruct) and it has to be crucially important to them because they don’t give a rat’s *** about ethics or full disclosure.
No harm and we learned something. But this is the Hampton thread and I’ll certainly yield
to the Hampton fans. He looked awesome before injury. I was stunned he turned that corner against the Giants and went 50+ for the TD.
