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RB Phillip Lindsay, IND (8 Viewers)
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Buffaloes
Footballguy
Yes, that's it. He ran with power between the tackles at cu, as far as college players go was great in pass pro, caught the ball out of the backfield, ran a 4.3 40 at his pro day, and was basically the cu offense. He was highly productive and ticked every box you typically look for in a rb with the exception of size.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
beerbuff
Footballguy
Given that Vance Joseph also attended C.U. Lindsay could luck out with a little favoritism.
lardonastick
Footballguy
I'm intrigued by this guy.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
This Lindsay kid looks really good, stretching the defense laterally, and he can find open space underneath. Will they use him in a Tarik Cohen type of role ? I just don't see how you can keep him off the field.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
FWIW I thought he looked very good against the Vikings in the first week of preseason.
He won't be sweating anything. Roster lock and I have a feeling he will be fantasy relevant at some point this season.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Kind of have to have some big ones to do that wouldn’t you? It’s awesome that TD was cool with it, but man. I can’t imagine being a rookie and asking a HoFer if I can wear his #30.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Dude earned a spot on an NFL roster. He earned the right to ask. And if you don't have huge ones, you don't make that roster in the first place. If the team didn't retire it it's there to use.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I didn’t realize it wasn’t retired, that changes things a bit. I agree with the sentiment, and also appreciate the fact that Lindsey asked.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
On a few of my rosters now.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is interesting.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Lindsay has some real moxie. Tough kid.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
How was he not drafted?
Truebluey
Footballguy
Does look very quick off his cuts, obviously a good receiver. And must have good hands, because although it was Freeman with the majority of runs on the game-killing final drive (and a couple of big first downs), they did give it to Lindsay on the last carry to protect the football on third and seven.
Dismattle
Footballguy
lol I still took a long look at him Not only did I add him but I also didn't draft Freeman (took Guice) and started him today because I figured return yds and maybe a few extra plays
I realize it may be a little early but it was still a nice showing
hamsterdam
Footballguy
I’m think I’m using my #2 waiver on him. I don’t think the coaches came into this game with him penciled in as the RB2 / split guy, and he seemingly just took the job from Booker in-game. I think he’s in a “he can’t be denied” type situation after a great camp and showing up in a real game.
Plus he looks like a better fit than Booker to be the lightening to Freeman’s thunder. 15 rushes and 3 targets can’t be ignored imo. The downside is that this is just a repeat of Tarik Cohen from week one last season, but I’m pretty sure Cohen hasn’t rushed 15 times in a game so far in his career.
Plus he looks like a better fit than Booker to be the lightening to Freeman’s thunder. 15 rushes and 3 targets can’t be ignored imo. The downside is that this is just a repeat of Tarik Cohen from week one last season, but I’m pretty sure Cohen hasn’t rushed 15 times in a game so far in his career.
I stashed him at the end of my bench based on his strong preseason, but I thought it would be mid-season before anything worthwhile would happen.
Still, impossible to start until we see evidence that this role is consistent. Perfect for those doing the zero RB thing though.
Still, impossible to start until we see evidence that this role is consistent. Perfect for those doing the zero RB thing though.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Yeah see I believe Denver had every intention of getting the man some work. I’m not posting to argue or disagree I’m just stating my thoughts. Local media. Local Fans. Hard effort for the Coach’s. I read the dude was taking 100 punts every day post practice. I’m just kind of leery of future success/usage. A healthy Freeman should mean he’s the guy trying to pound out the tough yards I don’t believe they want Lindsay attempting to but heads w 300lb lineman if it’s only for a yard or two. Now if he’s getting in there and reaching the 2nd lvl? I’d expect to see usage ramp up some. I like Freeman. I like big backs. Lindsay just excites me.
Basically I think we need a larger baseline of something like four games. I’m thinking there’s a chance Freeman plays more the short yardage/GL role. Hell of. Start though
moleculo
Footballguy
Disagree with the bolded. Lindsay had first quarter snaps, I don't believe Booker did. Booker's name doesn't pop-up in the play-by-play until 1:35 to go in the 2nd quarter. Lindsay was clearly intended to be the complimentary back to Freeman - Bookers role moving forward will be to back up both of these guys. - a few plays here, a few there. I'm basing this off of what happened week 1, what I saw in pre-season, and my speculation on what the Bronco RB's are capable of.
hamsterdam
Footballguy
That’s a fair enough, I admit I wasn’t keeping up with the team up until the game. My assumption was based on Booker being named the starter a few weeks ago, and all the talks of Freeman vs Booker in the off/preseason. I knew Lindsay was making his case in camp and had a good preseason, however I always thought he was going to be more of a pass catching specialist type guy and the 50/50 split and the 3x more rushes than targets yesterday was a surprise to me.
Anyways apologies if my take muddied up anyone’s thoughts on the situation here.
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moleculo
Footballguy
it was a surprise to me too. Bronco fans seem unanimous in thinking that Lindsay> Booker, and were prepared to be disappointed by the coaches choosing an inferior veteran over a UDFA rookie. This seems to be a case where the coaches are actually making decisions that agree with what my eyes are telling me.
I certainly didn't expect to see Lindsay getting 15 carries. Not convinced we will see that moving forward. During the game yesterday, I was assuming that Freeman might have been hurt - glad that wasn't the case.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
70% FAAB?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
That would be a big mistake imo. Freeman is the back to own in Denver. Lindsay may turn into a flex play for ppr leagues.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Dismattle
Footballguy
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/09/10/broncos-best-running-back-phillip-lindsay/?productCode=WebAccessSP
"I’ll stick with Freeman getting at least 1,000 yards because if Sunday’s game is a trend, the Broncos will have plenty of fourth-quarter carries to distribute. I looked up Woodhead’s statistics. He had two years of 1,000-plus all-purpose yards. I would bet the “under” on Lindsay because of the Broncos’ receiver/tight end depth. The Broncos would be smart not to overtax Lindsay (10 touches? Yes; 17 touches? Not every week)."
Common sense would make it seem that Freeman is best served in a rbbc role because of mileage No real reason to just give up on Freeman who started the game (I mean Denver knew the man lacked a high-speed gear in the draft) While I believe there is a chance Lindsay could take over a 3 down role I'm just not so sure of the actual value of over usage just to maintain the homerun potential on every play Keenum's play could dictate more of a grinder role at RB which is to say which RB is most likely to get you four yards on first down? It might be more the change of back than actual skill levels Two tackles on Special teams leads me to lean more towards being a difference maker role as opposed to every down back Possibly more a combined version of something between Cohen and Kamara which is to say more a player you start hoping to overachieve (against a better team) as to breaking even in a game you should Win I'm just not the biggest fan of blowing "70% of FAAB" for a player who could be just like R. Cobb on opening games
All that said he is the only back I liked finally aside from SB who I really have concerns about because of the OLine Hopefully, we see more posts/discussion
"I’ll stick with Freeman getting at least 1,000 yards because if Sunday’s game is a trend, the Broncos will have plenty of fourth-quarter carries to distribute. I looked up Woodhead’s statistics. He had two years of 1,000-plus all-purpose yards. I would bet the “under” on Lindsay because of the Broncos’ receiver/tight end depth. The Broncos would be smart not to overtax Lindsay (10 touches? Yes; 17 touches? Not every week)."
Common sense would make it seem that Freeman is best served in a rbbc role because of mileage No real reason to just give up on Freeman who started the game (I mean Denver knew the man lacked a high-speed gear in the draft) While I believe there is a chance Lindsay could take over a 3 down role I'm just not so sure of the actual value of over usage just to maintain the homerun potential on every play Keenum's play could dictate more of a grinder role at RB which is to say which RB is most likely to get you four yards on first down? It might be more the change of back than actual skill levels Two tackles on Special teams leads me to lean more towards being a difference maker role as opposed to every down back Possibly more a combined version of something between Cohen and Kamara which is to say more a player you start hoping to overachieve (against a better team) as to breaking even in a game you should Win I'm just not the biggest fan of blowing "70% of FAAB" for a player who could be just like R. Cobb on opening games
All that said he is the only back I liked finally aside from SB who I really have concerns about because of the OLine Hopefully, we see more posts/discussion
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Poor man's Kamara?
I picked him up 5 minutes before the game, and was surprised how much they ran him between the tackles. Fully expected him to beat out Booker after watching him in preseason, but to see him split carries with Freeman was telling. To me, he looked like the best RB on the field- excellent burst and broke some tackles. I think the Denver coaches know exactly what they have here.
I picked him up 5 minutes before the game, and was surprised how much they ran him between the tackles. Fully expected him to beat out Booker after watching him in preseason, but to see him split carries with Freeman was telling. To me, he looked like the best RB on the field- excellent burst and broke some tackles. I think the Denver coaches know exactly what they have here.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
Shhhhh. And pray he falls in waivers.
Booker is done until there is some injury.
Freeman is #1, but the kid has it. Min 10 touches and 60+ yds w a lot of upside.
Booker is done until there is some injury.
Freeman is #1, but the kid has it. Min 10 touches and 60+ yds w a lot of upside.
Yes this could be a NO-lite with Freeman and Lindsay both being RB2s with a little upside.
Dismattle
Footballguy
I just found this posted on YouTube... Some like me who couldn't watch the game may enjoy! https://youtu.be/HTBnm05y37U
(imho) It's a great opportunity to see what's possible when the Oline does their job even creating a small hole because TTD is able to just slip right on thru the hole and also plenty of bursts to outrun the pursuit
(imho) It's a great opportunity to see what's possible when the Oline does their job even creating a small hole because TTD is able to just slip right on thru the hole and also plenty of bursts to outrun the pursuit
skol asylum
Footballguy
Bid way too much probably to ensure I got him as my RBs are mediocre and not much available. $42/$100
Hope this guy is the second coming of Warrick Dunn.
Hope this guy is the second coming of Warrick Dunn.
Do you know the runner up bid?
I have no problem over bidding. He's not a one hit wonder.
Got him in one league as RB depth behind Saquon/DLewis. In another, he's still out there, but I would have to drop either Breida, Cole or John Brown to get him. What's giving me pause is that I have good depth at RB and don't really need him. I see both he and Breida having the ceiling of Duke Johnson, who I also happen to own. I can't see him getting 15 carries every week, and if he does I think he'll break down.
The argument in his favor over a Cole/Brown is that both are not even guaranteed WR1 status in mediocre passing offenses. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I lean toward dropping Brown for him.
The argument in his favor over a Cole/Brown is that both are not even guaranteed WR1 status in mediocre passing offenses. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I lean toward dropping Brown for him.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
He led the NCAA in carries last season, and the PAC 12 the year before. Obviously the NFL is a different beast, but I’m not convinced he can’t handle 15 carries a week.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Depends on roster size, taxi squad, IR, etc. I’ll say that I’d happily pay 60% in all of my dynasty leagues. If your waiver wire is less picked through, however, maybe he’s not worth it.
Isn't there some stat about RBs who are under 5'10"/190lbs? As I remember, Warrick Dunn is the extreme outlier and no one else has come close to carrying a full load.
