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What’s questionable is thinking either of these two bring something to the table. Byron Marshall is more intriguing. Alex Smith is solidified as a high volume QB as long as it’s just Kelley or Perine for an early down role. Snap share and utilization was both ugly and irrelevant in fantasy for Kelley and Perine with Thompson healthy last season.
Darkwa did a hell of a lot more with the same kind of #### OLine last year than Kelley or Perine did and he can catch out of the backfield. I imagine whatever injury he had was far worse than first thought upon him entering free agency.
I told you why he’s unemployed, he’s coming off injury. Please enlighten me though Mr. One-liner. I’d hate for you to exhuast your brain and do more than come in during preseason and drop hot takes.
Darkwa is JAG. Kelley and Perrine might very well be the same. I just don't think their story has been written yet.
That’s acceptable but I’m still seeing people in best ball take either of them over Peyton Barber and Bilal Powell (both of whom are starters right now). This isn’t some high upside get. It’s a low quality back that is going to split with Thompson and likely to split with the other low quality back. Now can high volume be a smart play on backs like these? Yep, I’ve taken Jamaal Williams enough as a bench stash and I hate him as a talent. I’m not seeing the appeal here. You take them and hope for a Thompson injury? Hasn’t that guy suffered enough? I guess to be fair to that point, I don’t really try to predict or factor in injuries to projections.
First of all, Crowell is the starter on the Jets and the key words for Barber are "right now" because I think even you realize Rojo is going to take the job from Barber at some point. Personally, I'm looking for guys who will have their peak value in weeks 14-16. Not weeks 1-4. And no, you're not drafting Perine with a hope for a Thompson injury. Last year they split the job into thirds. Thompson (who is still getting up to speed from his last injury) can keep third down duties and leave plenty of work for an early down bruiser. The gamble here is simply that one of the early down players will emerge over the other.
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What got him in trouble last year was being terrible. Sorry that you wasted a pick on him. I did too. Took him over JuJu. He’s not good.
100% honest full disclosure: drafted him in zero dynasty leagues last year... but I would have if I could have
- that's why I remember reading all the glowing reviews from teammates, coaches, and interviewers as well as college fumble rate. So I'll admit I got lucky by circumstance. But now I'm thinking about possibly acquiring him in dynasty and/or redraft. Looking at the facts, his ypc was poor, but his OL was bedraggled by the time he got his shot. Rob was running behind a healthier line and somehow had an even worse ypc. Perine excelled in the passing game when he got a chance. Rob was below mediocre.
I reset... I don’t hold grudges. I don’t think he is good. I think his peripheral stats tell his story. I found this interesting: https://twitter.com/stephengill_ts/status/1028356133134786560?s=21100% honest full disclosure: drafted him in zero dynasty leagues last year... but I would have if I could have
I know you think I'm an optimistic bag holder - I'm honestly not. But you do sound a bit like a jaded owner. I get it. Once bitten, twice shy. That's understandable but it can hurt you. Gotta learn to hit reset after the season ends.
That guy has some interesting data there. Thanks for sharing it.
Thompson is rarely healthy. The likelihood he makes it through 16 games seems very, very low (even by NFL RB standards). If either back steps up they could eventually end up with 3 down touches.
Jay Gruden seems like a solid coach. No argument on Daniel Snyder.SeniorVBDStudent said:
This is why I think Perine is a good trade target. Many of the people who drafted him probably spent an early rookie pick, passed over players who had more productive or promising rookie seasons, and watched him struggle throughout the year. All trade markets are localized to specific leagues of course, and you may have a stubborn person or a believer holding him, but I imagine many people will see the Guice injury as an opportunity to get out from under their 2017 investment before the season starts and Perine potentially struggles again. If you're even the least bit optimistic, it may be worth a try. Stranger things have happened than a productive college player who was a well-regarded prospect looking like a different guy in his second year.
It matters. Especially on these boards. Bring back up the old locked Christine Michael thread.
It may matter (probably not so much) but the unfounded accusations as a basis of opinion is entirely useless.
Bell was 3.5 ypc, Tomlinson 3.6, Forte 3.9... followed up with 3.6, Melvin Gordon has played 3 seasons without cracking 4 ypc. Mark Ingram started off with back-to-back 3.9 ypc seasons - was considered a bust through 3 years and didn't hit 1000 yards until year 6. Shady's first year paled in comparison to his 2nd year. Freeman was pretty meh as a rookie.
A-freaking-men. It's the laziest tactic out there and more than anything else helps me realize whose posts I can safely ignore, either literally or figuratively.
Go with 4th rounders and go apples for apples, only Freeman applies on that list I believe.
I agree in general but unless Washington signs some one else - and there’s not much out there - they are either relying on their fourth rounder or their UDFA, both of which had dismal a ypc last season. But the fact they drafted Guice makes your point though - they in essence did give up on him, but now they may need to go back.
I wouldn't do this. That'd penalize him for sharing the rock with Nixon in college which was unfair on draft day too
You wouldn’t do what? He’s not special. If he was special that wouldn’t matter. It didn’t matter for Caddy Williams and Ronnie Brown. It didn’t matter for Sony Michel and Nick Chubb. There is a reason why he fell. Something happened between his freshman year and now that has taken his legs from under him. Go to player profiler and look at the athleticism and production between him and Andre Williams. It’s scary how similar it is. His best case scenario is probably a Bob Turbin career at this point.
This is pointless at this juncture. I actually agree with you - yes, they are much more likely to give up on a 4th rounder quicker... and they did! They drafted Guice. Gave up on Perine after one year. It happened and it's done. But the point that my post made was that not all RBs play their best football as a rookie and that was true even of 1st rounders. Therefore, it is very possible Perine figures things out this year now that fortune has smiled upon him and given him a second chance that the organization did not intend to give him.
I would be surprised if he's healthy enough to play in more than 8 or 9 games.
Poor Thompson -- aside from the ACL, he has suffered some weird injuries in is football career -- spinal compression fractures, torn labrum, then the broken fibula.
A ding is not an injury. You don't miss a game over a ding. But you do limp to the sideline and get attention and then usually miss some practice time the next week. Perine is a guy who is constantly dinged. It's just a result of his size and battering style.
