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RB Saquon Barkley, PHI (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
I think Dallas stacks the box and forces Pickett to beat them .. Hope I am wrong as a Saquon owner ... may help Barkley in the dump off passing game though
rockaction
Footballguy
Dickerson is . . . well, he’s honest.
Insein
Footballguy
He is and he isn't. He later goes on to say Barkley would have to beat him in 16 games if he wanted the record. Nevermind that OJ held the record in 14 games before Dickerson or that Barkley currently has about 70 less carries.
rockaction
Footballguy
No, he doesn’t. He says it doesn’t matter and that he beat O.J. with extra games. Dude, you concern me. What do you read when you read?
rockaction
Footballguy
I mean, ****, half the article is about Dickerson saying it doesn’t matter if Barkley beats him in seventeen games because he had sixteen to beat O.J.
What link did you click on?
What link did you click on?
Insein
Footballguy
Come on man. Sports illustrated quotes him.
x.com
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"I don’t think he’ll break it. But if he breaks it, he breaks it. Do I want him to break it? Absolutely not. I don’t pull no punches on that. But I’m not whining about it. He had 17 games to do it? Hey, football is football. That’s the way I look at it."
rockaction
Footballguy
"But if he breaks it, he breaks it. Do I want him to break it? Absolutely not. I don't pull no punches on that. But I'm not whining about it. He had 17 games to do it? Hey, football is football. That's the way I look at it. If he's fortunate to get over 2,000 yards and get the record, it's a great record to have."
With 1,838 rushing yards, Barkley is 268 away from breaking Dickerson's record. The Eagles back needs to average 134.0 rush yards per game over his remaining two tilts to break the record.
If Barkley comes close in Week 18, much will be made about the extra 17th game played compared to the 16 Dickerson did it in. The former Ram isn't concerned about that, noting that he had two additional games to pass O.J. Simpson, who went for 2,003 yards in 14 contests.
"O.J. Simpson was my favorite player," Dickerson told Farmer. "He went over 2,000 yards in 14 games. It took me 15 games to get to 2,000. I had one extra game to play. Getting to 2,000 is an accomplishment in itself. I got close to that three other times."
With 1,838 rushing yards, Barkley is 268 away from breaking Dickerson's record. The Eagles back needs to average 134.0 rush yards per game over his remaining two tilts to break the record.
If Barkley comes close in Week 18, much will be made about the extra 17th game played compared to the 16 Dickerson did it in. The former Ram isn't concerned about that, noting that he had two additional games to pass O.J. Simpson, who went for 2,003 yards in 14 contests.
"O.J. Simpson was my favorite player," Dickerson told Farmer. "He went over 2,000 yards in 14 games. It took me 15 games to get to 2,000. I had one extra game to play. Getting to 2,000 is an accomplishment in itself. I got close to that three other times."
rockaction
Footballguy
Come on man. Sports illustrated quotes him.
x.com
"I don’t think he’ll break it. But if he breaks it, he breaks it. Do I want him to break it? Absolutely not. I don’t pull no punches on that. But I’m not whining about it. He had 17 games to do it? Hey, football is football. That’s the way I look at it."
Okay, we’re reading different things. That makes more sense. I thought you clicked on the link provided and came away with what you came away with. More understandable. I should have asked before wondering aloud.
But still, usually we comment on the link that somebody posts. Regardless, my bad.
If we're being honest, Dickerson's season isn't even a top-3 season. It makes much more sense to use yards per game as a measuring stick than total yards. By that, Dickerson's 1984 is 4th behind:
1975 OJ
1963 Jim Brown
1977 Walter Payton
All of those seasons were more impressive than Dickerson's 1984 and certainly more than what Barkley is doing this season. In fact, Barkley is currently 14th in rushing yards per game.
Regarding Saquon Barkley's potential to break the single-season rushing yardage record next week against the New York Giants, I get it many people, myself included, often dislike seeing records broken, mainly because players today have more games to play. But let's not forget that the game is far more physical now. The players are bigger, stronger, and faster. However, Saquon is such a likable player, the type you can't help but root for.
I wouldn't be surprised if some Eagles players secretly want him to break the record. On the other hand, Eagles management might prefer to rest him. Saquon, being the class act that he is, might even agree to sit out a quarter or two, preventing him from breaking the record.
But honestly, I really want him to break that record, putting a dagger in the hearts of the Giants' fans. It might finally push Mara to move on from DaFool and Schoen.
I wouldn't be surprised if some Eagles players secretly want him to break the record. On the other hand, Eagles management might prefer to rest him. Saquon, being the class act that he is, might even agree to sit out a quarter or two, preventing him from breaking the record.
But honestly, I really want him to break that record, putting a dagger in the hearts of the Giants' fans. It might finally push Mara to move on from DaFool and Schoen.
Saquon only needs 101 yards I believe. He may really, really want to play. He will defer to Sirianni. He is a team player first.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
The way the Eagles celebrated when he got 2000, I don't think Barkley even suits up next week.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Barkley has had just an unbelievable 2024 season, glad that he passed 2000 today. Anyway, here’s an up to date list of the best rushing yards per game average seasons ever. I found it interesting.
Best Yards Per Game Rushing Seasons
Best Yards Per Game Rushing Seasons
Just watched an interview with him
IMOP he's starting next week
They'll feed him early and often
If he's got a chance they'll let him go and break the record
If he gets hurt,they'll blame Siriani
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Realistically, nobody in real life in that organization gonna care. I'm sure Saquon would love to get it, but he seems like a smart young guy who understands this may be his only chance at a SB this year, and he'll want to give his squad 100% for that pursuit.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Sitting IMO. Not worth it with the 17 game asterisk attached even if he were to break the record, which isn't a guarantee, and I'm not sure it would be worth it without the asterisk either. Hurts should also sit another week.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
Why would there be an asterisk?
yep...plus the the modern game doesn't allow for super teams. There's more parity. Doing it in 17 now is more akin to doing it in 15 30 years ago
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
It would be foolish for him to play. He’s the Eagles MVP and their best shot at a Superbowl. Who cares about a record? I guarantee you Saquon doesn’t. He wants a ring.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Saquon ready to go….
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6,047 likes, 218 comments - memerunnergpt on December 29, 2024: "Saquon Barkley says he’s eager to beat Eric Dickerson’s single season rushing record next week, against his former team, the New York Giants. Saquon put up 167 yards against the Cowboys in a dominant 41-7 win earlier today. I...
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
I couldn't disagree more, If anything, super teams made it harder. Its not like the 2,000 yard RBs played for the 1970's Steelers or 1960's Packers. I think its fair to argue Barkley had it easier than basically any 2,000-yard rusher except maybe Terrell Davis, when it comes to the team around him.
OJ's 1973 Bills didn't even make the playoffs. He was the entire team. Hell, they had under 1,000 passing yards and had 4 passing TDs. He was 48% of the offense. 6.0 YPC
Dickerson was on a wildcard team, and one that had some support. Less than Barkley, but like Barkley, he wasn't fully carrying them. 43% of the offense. 5.6 YPC
The 2012 Vikings snuck into the last wildcard spot, Adrian Peterson was responsible for 42% of their offense, and had the great supporting cast help of Christian Ponder at QB. 6.0 YPC
Jamal Lewis was on a middling playoff team, I'd argue his season was better, as his QB situation was Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright. 44% of the offense. 5.3 YPC
Barry Sanders was on a good offense, they snuck into the playoffs. Like Barkley, he had a great #1 WR taking a large amount of defensive focus, Herman Moore is criminally underrated. Barry was 39% of the offense, and was at 6.1 YPC.
Derrick Henry was on a solid division winner, who also had a solid supporting cast. Maybe the best short of Barkley and Davis. Henry was 33% of the offense and had 5.4 YPC. Truth be told, despite having 2,000 yards, I'm not sure that is Henry's best season.
Terrell Davis was on one of the best teams of the last 30 years, and won a Super Bowl. Davis had 35% of the offense and 5.1 YPC. He really got rode into the ground.
Chris Johnson was a pretty lousy Titans team, that started 0-6 but went 8-2 down the stretch once they started feeding him. Johnson also led his team in receptions which should be a sizeable bonus and an insight into who vital he really was. This season is underrated in my eyes. 44% of the offense, and 5.6 YPC.
Which brings us to Barkley. Who is on a Super Bowl contender, with high-end players all around him. Barkley is 37% of the offense and has 5.8 YPC.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
And Eric did it in 16 while OJ did it in 14. Someone else will do it in 18 eventually.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Insein
Footballguy
Dickerson had 379 carries to do it. Barkley is at 345 carries right now.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Jim Brown averaged 6.4 YPC in 1963. This is well above what Dickerson, Barkley, OJ, or Peyton averaged. If you extrapolate it times the number of carries Dickerson had, Brown would have had about 2300 yards rushing.
Frankly I think Peterson's 2012 season is #2 on my list. He was a beast that year.
Frankly I think Peterson's 2012 season is #2 on my list. He was a beast that year.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I bet he does care about the record. Who wouldn't want to be the all-time single season rushing leader. He cares, the line cares, his coaches care.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
I didn't say the record wouldn't end up on the books if he were to break it, I'm simply stating it would not be as readily accepted by traditionalists as if he were to be past Dickerson after 16 games. So much happens in sports that it's never an apples to apples comparison and major changes (such as added games) are eventually forgotten, but they won't be ignored.And Eric did it in 16 while OJ did it in 14. Someone else will do it in 18 eventually.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
And Dickerson played with Jeff Kemp who threw for 2,021 yards that season. The top receiver on the team went for 622. Do you think he was more or less of a focus for opposing defenses than Saquon is?Dickerson had 379 carries to do it. Barkley is at 345 carries right now.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Saquon is an all time great already, the best collegiate RB I've ever seen, but again, apples to oranges. The naysayer crowd will focus on 16 vs 17, nothing more nothing less, regardless of how many other variables impacted each players' seasons. Personally I think it's a legitimate beef. But still, even if Saquon were to break the record (which I really doubt he'll be allowed to at this point), in 20 years if his record stands no one will really care who was in 2nd place and how they got there.
and then you could say barkley played with better linemen.... or dickerson played against worse defenses/linebackers. Really hard to compare the two era's, and no real point doing so.And Dickerson played with Jeff Kemp who threw for 2,021 yards that season. The top receiver on the team went for 622. Do you think he was more or less of a focus for opposing defenses than Saquon is?Dickerson had 379 carries to do it. Barkley is at 345 carries right now.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Saquon is an all time great already, the best collegiate RB I've ever seen, but again, apples to oranges. The naysayer crowd will focus on 16 vs 17, nothing more nothing less, regardless of how many other variables impacted each players' seasons. Personally I think it's a legitimate beef. But still, even if Saquon were to break the record (which I really doubt he'll be allowed to at this point), in 20 years if his record stands no one will really care who was in 2nd place and how they got there.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Traditionalists are lame. I grew up watching Dickerson dominate, so I feel comfortable saying that the defenses Saquon is running against are far more athletic and far more advanced strategically.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Embrace the greatness we’re seeing folks. Saquon’s a freak.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Traditionalists are lame. I grew up watching Dickerson dominate, so I feel comfortable saying that the defenses Saquon is running against are far more athletic and far more advanced strategically.Not sure if serious, but Saquon would get 17 games to do what Eric did in 16.
Many records will be broken because of the extra game, it is what it is, but traditionalists won't put the same weight on the record IMO.
Embrace the greatness we’re seeing folks. Saquon’s a freak.
Apples to oranges, and traditionalists can be lame and right at the same time.
Different players, different eras. Both players are special.
