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He signed the TAG but they converted some to s signing bonus (which will make him more money) and added $900k in reachable incentives - they are allowed to pay a player more than the TAG but can't neogtiate a long term contract after the deadline.
Yes, we don’t know what the offer was, but unless all the reports were fake, there seemed to be a decent 2 or 3 deal at a higher AAV. Who knows for sure though.
Would you be pleased with it if your coworkers who do less work than you are getting $5-10m a year raises?
And no w it has happened. Good call.
The signing bonus part doesn't get him any additional money, it just expedites when he will get the money. As soon as he signed the franchise tender, that guaranteed he would be paid $10.1M. That would have been paid out over 18 weeks of the regular season. Now he will get $2M of it now instead of later (ie, his weekly in season paychecks will be 80% of what they would have been). Until we see what the incentives are, hard to tell how easy they will be to attain. I am guessing they are performance based (ie, All Pro, 1500 rushing yards, 10 TD or something similar). If he gets hurt, I doubt he reaches them. Obviously $900K in incentives is better than not having $900K in incentives, but I would guess this one-year solution is still less than the multi-year offer the Giants offered him (if the reports are accurate). Certainly better than just accepting the boilerplate franchise tender, but only a little bit better.
The thing is we just don't know a few things. Maybe Saquon is not smart with his money and needs some right now. Maybe/probably the Giants are not wanting to sign him to a long term deal "ever" and ya know, this is the best he was gonna get no matter what. I don't think he is going to get "less" money now with this deal than he was going to get under the tag. It just seems very obvious to me the Giants are cutting ties with him after this season and moving on to whoever will be the next back to take snaps with Danny Dimes.
Not sure if you're being obtuse? Of course I would. A 20% raise is nothing to sneeze at in any industry.
That is what he will get next year under the 2nd tag
That's not the point of what I said at all.
He got an extra $900k and the time value of the $2MM
It's certainly something - the time value of money is a real thing.
Never
Give him another month to think about it.
I’m not sure he’ll ever get it.
www.nbcsports.com
Most players don’t get any concessions after the TAG is offered - I’m not sure what was controversial about me saying he got “a little more money” (which is accurate) before signing the contract - but this board has gotten worse and worse with snark comments and people trying to prove they’re the smartest person in the room by arguing semantics or against things that weren’t actually said.
I did not know measles was part of the deal, and that changes a lot in my opinion. Dude got hosed.
This is what I’m talking about when I say people will even argue semantics. Whatever, I’ll move on.
If he got seriously injured they'd probably not offer him the tag, which is why I'd have recommended he sign the contract he was offered last week. Only way I can see him beating what was offered was in the 2025 season and to me that's not worth the risk.
I'm not sure that's how teams see it. It's just a brutal position and second contracts to RB's have not for the part gone well which has led to changes to the RB market. I don't think teams value RB's any less, they just adjusted to the new market.
If he plays 17, I would say this is nearly a lock
He came under that last year in 16 games but even if you prorate it to 17 he would have been under by 4-5. Hard to think that's a lock.
My assumption is he'll hit it because the coach and QB will help make up the difference if need be at the end.
Barkley has already had 2 seasons with 350+ touches. Of RBs that played in the past 10 years, only 3 of them have had three seasons with 350+ touches across their careers (Peterson, Elliott, and Forte). Getting to 350 touches in a season is really difficult.
Whether or not he actually got an additional $2M isn’t “semantics.” That’s a 20% raise that some people think he got with this 1 year deal that he didn’t actually receive. Not sure why you’re offended that someone is trying to clarify that in this discussion.
Given that I don't participate in fantasy anymore, I don't have him ranked at all. If I had to guess, I would have him closer to 10 than 3rd (which is his current ADP). But that's baking in some missed time (which many other people don't account for in their rankings and projections).
I made a joke about $2MM to some one that said he “only” got a $2MM raise. I never said he got a $2MM raise and that’s not what our exchange was about.
Fair enough. But the quote i specifically responded to was you stating that someone clarifying that he didn’t actually get a $2M raise as “arguing semantics.”
Not that it matters now, but I recall seeing a report that the guaranteed part of the offer was "only" 19.5 million.
