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Thanks for translating into Schmeabs' schmanguage.Yup. Offensive player of the week /Shmoffensive player of the Shmeek, amirite?I don't get the excitement over him to be honest.
Thanks for translating into Schmeabs' schmanguage.Yup. Offensive player of the week /Shmoffensive player of the Shmeek, amirite?I don't get the excitement over him to be honest.
I dropped Allen for him. Hall looks like he’s gonna be the work horse for the jets. Tucker has a shot at taking over as the #1 back on this teamHe's still available in one of my leagues. Would you add him and drop one of Shakir or Braelon Allen?
Run don't walk to do that for Shakir for sure, especially with Cooper in the fold. For Allen is a bit more on the fence IMO.He's still available in one of my leagues. Would you add him and drop one of Shakir or Braelon Allen?
I would definitely add him.He's still available in one of my leagues. Would you add him and drop one of Shakir or Braelon Allen?
I'm cutting bait with Shakir in my 10 team leagues, and on the fence in the 12 team leagues. He's not completely useless, but upside takes a massive hit with Cooper in town.
>>Good news on injury front for Bucs — C Graham Barton, DB Christian Izien, RB Rachaad White all practicing today after missing Sunday’s game with injuries.<<Updates on White would be appreciated. I think today is when they come out.
IMO it is back to a 2 headed running back room with Tucker getting scraps and garbage time>>Good news on injury front for Bucs — C Graham Barton, DB Christian Izien, RB Rachaad White all practicing today after missing Sunday’s game with injuries.<<Updates on White would be appreciated. I think today is when they come out.
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I would imagine it won't take long for White to be relegated to mostly passing downs and for Irving and Tucker to split 1st and 2nd downs and short yardage situations.IMO it is back to a 2 headed running back room with Tucker getting scraps and garbage time>>Good news on injury front for Bucs — C Graham Barton, DB Christian Izien, RB Rachaad White all practicing today after missing Sunday’s game with injuries.<<Updates on White would be appreciated. I think today is when they come out.
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Won't take long?I would imagine it won't take long for White to be relegated to mostly passing downs and for Irving and Tucker to split 1st and 2nd downs and short yardage situations.IMO it is back to a 2 headed running back room with Tucker getting scraps and garbage time>>Good news on injury front for Bucs — C Graham Barton, DB Christian Izien, RB Rachaad White all practicing today after missing Sunday’s game with injuries.<<Updates on White would be appreciated. I think today is when they come out.
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To be fair:Won't take long?I would imagine it won't take long for White to be relegated to mostly passing downs and for Irving and Tucker to split 1st and 2nd downs and short yardage situations.IMO it is back to a 2 headed running back room with Tucker getting scraps and garbage time>>Good news on injury front for Bucs — C Graham Barton, DB Christian Izien, RB Rachaad White all practicing today after missing Sunday’s game with injuries.<<Updates on White would be appreciated. I think today is when they come out.
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So the Bucs will just telegraph their plays by wheeling out White on 3rd down or any type of pass play?
This guy averages almost 4 catches a game or 60+ a season, he's a major part of why Baker is successful and you think they are just gonna have a reduced number of plays for White who also picks up the blitz rather well I might add.
I understand why folks are excited, I watched the game too as a Bucs fan
I've not heard the coaches or the fan base clamoring for someone else at RB. Fans were happy to see Irving doing well early and hoping the Bucs have a 1-2 punch
Also as I posted earlier int his thread or maybe it was another Bucs skill position thread, look at the last 2 games for White
20 carries for over 120+ yds rushing, 6 yds a clip, it's not the like the Bucs were being held back by White being their lead RB
In fact the tandem of White and Irving was working quite well, Bucs actually beat the Lions a few weeks ago
-I think it's going to take a very long time in terms of Redraft '24...now 2025 might look different, a lot different but let's all take a deep breath before Week 7
If White can't suit up and Tucker pairs with Irving, still likely that Bucky will see most of the early touches
And they play the Ravens which might have some folks nervous or slow to jump on him
The next 4 games are going to be very difficult for the Bucs running game
I started one league with Davis, Corum, C. Brown, Chubb and Tucker. I started out 2-7. Hope it's not too late.
Added to my "hope something hits" stable of Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jordan Mason, and Blake Corum. If two of them turn into viable dynasty RB's, I'll be happy.
JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
You’d need an injury for Allen to be relevant it seems at this time. Tucker could straight up pass Irving without an injury. Tucker has great hands and speed and seems to run more physical than his counterpartsStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
I guess In a relative sense no, maybe he’s got some floor but Tucker has a higher ceiling.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
I would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
I overdid this tier justtttt a smidge the last 2 seasons:
Added to my "hope something hits" stable of Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jordan Mason, and Blake Corum. If two of them turn into viable dynasty RB's, I'll be happy.
I play in a .2 PPR leagueI would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
I'm in 6 dynasty leagues and all are full ppr for WRs.I play in a .2 PPR leagueI would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
Took the league 20 years to add that
Now you’re just showing offI'm in 6 dynasty leagues and all are full ppr for WRs.I play in a .2 PPR leagueI would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
Took the league 20 years to add that
Agree with your analysis. Bucky seems to be very shifty and Tucker is more speed and power. I prefer the speed and power and going north, south. Hopefully the coaching staff does as wellIt is important to note in here that Coen has shifted more to a gap scheme these last few weeks versus the mid-zone they started the season with. It's the single biggest reason for the running game taking off. White did have nice games against the Eagles and Atlanta the prior week as well. Tampa's linemen perform much better pulling and walling off defenders in this type of scheme. There's a decent chance White would have also had a really nice game had he played.
Tucker's average yards before contact in this game was 6.6. So, just some things to think about. Tucker definitely powered through some tackles and also eliminated defender's angles with his sneaky speed though.
I am in 7 leagues and 2 are full PPR, 1 is half PPR and 4 are non-PPRI'm in 6 dynasty leagues and all are full ppr for WRs.I play in a .2 PPR leagueI would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
Took the league 20 years to add that
Non-PPR is so 1990s and 2000s.I am in 7 leagues and 2 are full PPR, 1 is half PPR and 4 are non-PPRI'm in 6 dynasty leagues and all are full ppr for WRs.I play in a .2 PPR leagueI would venture to guess most leagues are full ppr.he is averaging 8 ppg in my half PPR league and he is sitting at WR29. So while he may not "stink" he is one of a bunch of similar WR's out there.Really? He’s averaging double digit fantasy points per week.JSN stinksStill unclaimed in my league. I'm the Breece owner so hesitant to drop Allen. Also the Irving owner so don't feel like I can justify using up roster space on two "backups" to White. Otherwise I'd have to cut Hockenson, JSN, Darnold, or wait for Chuba Hubbard to become the backup in Carolina. Sometimes I really hate short benches.
Took the league 20 years to add that
I started in 1985 so that is probably the reasonNon-PPR is so 1990s and 2000s.
It's a numbers game.I overdid this tier justtttt a smidge the last 2 seasons:
Added to my "hope something hits" stable of Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jordan Mason, and Blake Corum. If two of them turn into viable dynasty RB's, I'll be happy.
Hubbard
Brown
Mason
Tracy
Bigsby
Vidal
Allen
Tucker
Lloyd
K. Miller
You mean like Uno?It's a numbers game.I overdid this tier justtttt a smidge the last 2 seasons:
Added to my "hope something hits" stable of Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jordan Mason, and Blake Corum. If two of them turn into viable dynasty RB's, I'll be happy.
Hubbard
Brown
Mason
Tracy
Bigsby
Vidal
Allen
Tucker
Lloyd
K. Miller
I played me the Draw 4 (backup/rookie RBs) card.You mean like Uno?It's a numbers game.I overdid this tier justtttt a smidge the last 2 seasons:
Added to my "hope something hits" stable of Tyrone Tracy, Ray Davis, Jordan Mason, and Blake Corum. If two of them turn into viable dynasty RB's, I'll be happy.
Hubbard
Brown
Mason
Tracy
Bigsby
Vidal
Allen
Tucker
Lloyd
K. Miller
I thought he played for the ….White limited. Tucker prob doesn't do anything this week but count me amongst those excited for his prospects. I added him for the minimum before the game but would have definitely emptied (the already spent) FAAB wallet for him.
Looks like a difference maker (even if NO is doodoo).
The Coachspeak Index
#Bucs HC Todd Bowles on Sean Tucker only playing 7 snaps and whether he’s the lesser third of the three-headed monster:
“I think it’ll change every week. We got behind, and that was probably less Tucker’s thing. But he’s gonna get more touches, he’s gonna get more plays and more reps.”
Bowles has an 80% reliability rating on usage/workload coachspeak and an 85% reliability rating on depth chart coachspeak
We’d expect Sean Tucker to see some more snaps and touches in positive and neutral game scripts. Unfortunately, those can be tough to predict, and Tucker is the third back to enter into games, so two guys ahead of him get the chance to get the “hot hand” before Tucker. Not an ideal setup.k
Lots of cooks in the kitchen, all of which have brought valueNot trying to be salty as a Tucker dynasty owner, but just so strange to not give this guy the ball more. Averaging 8.3 yards per opportunity. Not per touch, per opportunity. Irving is averaging 5.5, and White 4.9. I know 8.3 is an unrealistic number to sustain over a larger sample size, but still. Ever since his huge game (Buccaneers won) his offensive snap count/opportunities have been: 16/7, 7/3, 7/4, 0/0 (all Buccaneers losses). I know you have to earn your way up the depth chart patiently when there is an established top dog ... but still one of the more mystifying cases.
I'm a huge Tucker fan, YUUUUUUUUGE, and I think he could be great given the opportunity to be a bell cow but his success thus far in the NFL is pretty limited. Almost all of his NFL production comes from one game, and it was against one of the worst rush defenses in the league in a blowout win. There was a lot going on in that game.Not trying to be salty as a Tucker dynasty owner, but just so strange to not give this guy the ball more. Averaging 8.3 yards per opportunity. Not per touch, per opportunity. Irving is averaging 5.5, and White 4.9. I know 8.3 is an unrealistic number to sustain over a larger sample size, but still. Ever since his huge game (Buccaneers won) his offensive snap count/opportunities have been: 16/7, 7/3, 7/4, 0/0 (all Buccaneers losses). I know you have to earn your way up the depth chart patiently when there is an established top dog ... but still one of the more mystifying cases.
I blew a ton of my FAAB allotment on him. Started cutting him in some of those leagues last week when it became apparent they cut one of the heads off their "3 headed monster" backfield.Not trying to be salty as a Tucker dynasty owner, but just so strange to not give this guy the ball more. Averaging 8.3 yards per opportunity. Not per touch, per opportunity. Irving is averaging 5.5, and White 4.9. I know 8.3 is an unrealistic number to sustain over a larger sample size, but still. Ever since his huge game (Buccaneers won) his offensive snap count/opportunities have been: 16/7, 7/3, 7/4, 0/0 (all Buccaneers losses). I know you have to earn your way up the depth chart patiently when there is an established top dog ... but still one of the more mystifying cases.
Liam Coen said as part of the bye-week self-scout, Bucs are more aware they need to make sure Sean Tucker has touches in every game and a chance to make plays in rotation with the other two backs.