Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah he’s getting chances now. Will be an interesting rotation to watch all year.
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RB Tank Bigsby, PHI (2 Viewers)
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the moops
Footballguy
He is getting chances when the game is out of hand. Also, Etienne has 4 times the carries. Not sure if this is going to be interesting
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Etienne is better than Tank Bigsby. I am not sure what everyone saw in Bigsby. I guess it could have been what people didn't see out of Etienne last season?
Glad to have some ETN shares.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
I wouldn’t go as far as saying Etienne is better than bigsby. Bigsby is a better pure runner - but it seems Eteinne is fitting in nicely with Coens offense.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It is too early to say for sure that Tank is done, but Etienne looked great got most of the work and this staff drafted Tuten. I could see Tank as rb very soon.
Isn't he already an RB?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Lol. Autocorrect rb3
doeseatplace
Footballguy
I think this is right. Etienne looked very good today against a terrible run defense. (he'll probably show out well against the Bengals next week as well, fyi)
But at one point he won't look very good, and I think Coen will have no hesitation to rotate in another back. I have no idea how that rotation will look, which will likely be a frustration all season long
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
So basically Tank is a drop in redraft?
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
His value tanked?
Why would his value Tank? He went from being in a 3-headed monster at best, to the clear backup on the league’s best rushing attack. I don’t want Tank Bigsby for 10ppg, I want him for if he could ever be a difference maker. If Barkley goes down, the opportunity is now there.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I see what you did there.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Tank career over
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Why? Why would the Eagles trade for Tank? Does Howie just have to many picks?
Maybe Shipley's rib injury is worse than we know? If not, I honestly wonder if Bigsby would beat Shipley out.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I assume Shipley's rib injury will cause him to miss some time. I think the Eagles want to feature a 2nd back a lot more this year so Saquon is healthy for another playoff run.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It's a wash for me. His chances of taking over the lead back role through superior play went from like 25% to 0% but his upside if the RB1 gets hurt greatly increased.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Agree with this.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Unless Saquon donates his achilles tendons to CMC and retires, yes.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Want him for returning kicks. With the new rule it’s a pretty important role
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I didn't even know Shipley had a rib injury, must be cracked/broken ribs
NajehHejan
Footballguy
As an Eagles fan, I do not like this trade. I’d rather have a future 5th AND 6th round pick than Bigsby. I like Shipley better than Bigsby. Even if Shipley is hurt, just use AJ Dillon as the 2, and sign a 3 off someone’s practice squad. I love Howie and he’s usually spot on but this feels like an overpay to me. Yeah you can say a 5th and 6th rounder rarely pay off big time, but it’s all about multiple shots on goal.
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
As active as Roseman is, he could just trade back an earlier pick and recoup those picks pretty easily. A problem he can kick down the road to April
massraider
Footballguy
Eagles are in their window. Send late round picks for players who can help now. If Roseman thinks Bigsby is an improvement on Dillon/Shipley, I'm ready to agree with him.
Also, Bigsby could play well for them, walk next offseason, and net a comp pick in return. Last year of his rookie deal, I think
Also, Bigsby could play well for them, walk next offseason, and net a comp pick in return. Last year of his rookie deal, I think
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
They had 13 picks for next year going into the season. Now, they have 10? left. They weren’t using all of them anyway.
Somebody pointed out in the Eagles thread that between Shipley and Tank, they have both under contract for under $3M next year. Dillon will be gone.
Terpman22
Footballguy
But now we have Tank Bigsby as a cost controlled backup option for the next 1-2 years to go along with what Shipley brings.
Tank had 4.6 YPC in Jax last year to go along with 7 TDs and 700+ yards.
I think you could bump this up at least .2-.5 YPC behind what this line and running style brings.
I can see the vision, how often do 5th/6th round picks hit or last, considering we’ve cut our 3-4 most recent ones of the past 2 drafts?
this was the first thing I was wondering when this deal was announced.
the second thing I thought was.... does sequon have an unannounced injury?
either way, the Eagles obviously felt he would add something to the team. Lets hope its not due to an injury
KR perhaps?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Didn't he just do that today?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The ESPN article makes it sound like it’s really just for Bigsby to be the kick returner. With the kick return being a thing again, I could maybe see that.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
That’s probably part of the story but not all of it. Shipley is hurt and they may expect him to miss games. And he’s cheap to keep next year and Dillon will presumably be gone.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Slogan for this Bigsby signing,"hey, he's better than AJ Dillon (running directly into his linemen)".
In the words of Cris Collinsworth (probably) Now here's a guy who should file an ADA lawsuit against the NFL for not allowing a blind man to play with his seeing eye dog.
Anyway, wanted to respond with Etienne is the more versatile and athletic back. To me he profiles quite a bit higher with a top 5 RB finish to prove it. I would be shocked if Tuten isn't the big pop 25-30% of touches but ETN commands 65% of the RB snaps. Like his odds as a fantasy backend RB1 top tier RB2.
massraider
Footballguy
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Everyone saying Dillon gone now. What’s his cap hit? Can’t imagine it’s that high
Terpman22
Footballguy
1.197 per OTC so yeah not much
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Still underrated
Chemical X
Footballguy
tank relevance, wait!
doeseatplace
Footballguy
Don't sleep on the Tank. This is heading to a full blown time share
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Interested to see Tank behind that line. I personally think it's a better situation being a backup on Philly than a backup on the Jags. Way bigger upside hold IMO.
True, and being behind a guy who's 28 and had almost 500 touches counting playoffs in the prior season may not be the worst spot for that opportunity either
Terpman22
Footballguy
Hopefully all we see is him grinding clock out in the 4th Quarter as Eagles fans.
He averaged 4.6 YPC in Jax last year, while ETN averaged 3.7 behind the same line, so I am intrigued by what he could do behind the Eagles offensive line as well - I think he was added with a role in mind, not to just serve as a KR.
This guy was trying to tell people and like I said, it made perfect sense. Bigsby's a really good runner but he's proverbial square peg in a round hole in a Liam Cohen offense that loves to throw screens to the RB's.
Was very happy seeing this trade down on multiple fronts.
Bigsby is just a handcuff but if ever called upon I think he'd run wild behind that OL. What is really is awesome for me personally is my ownership of both Barkley and Tank is on the low side but by luck almost every place I own them both, not all but most, happens to be the same team so I just got some nice Barkley insurance.
Freeing Tuten who I am invested in more then Barkley or Tank was the other major positive, maybe the biggest.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
What a strange ending to the longest FF mystery RB situation.
Gotta spike ETN’s value for redraft, and Bigsby’s stock has to be way way down as a ST specialist.
Crazy.
Gotta spike ETN’s value for redraft, and Bigsby’s stock has to be way way down as a ST specialist.
Crazy.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Idk. What Philly paid for the trade wasn't chump change. Is it possible Philly wants to keep Barkley fresh? 75/25 split but w Barkley seeing the RZ touches? Maybe Philly doesn't want Barkley to have to be the bellcow
