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RB Tevin Coleman, SF (1 Viewer)

I have both but think today forces more of a 50/50 share which is not good for fantasy owners. Oh well I will take the basically 50 points on the day.

 
No idea where these coaches got the idea of RBBC but it's a failure. Stick with one guy or the other. The Panthers were the worst at it. They sucked so bad that they had no idea how good DeAngelo was. Fortunately this injury showed ATL coaches how good Freeman is. Now let's see how quickly they forget.

 
lod01 said:
No idea where these coaches got the idea of RBBC but it's a failure. Stick with one guy or the other. The Panthers were the worst at it. They sucked so bad that they had no idea how good DeAngelo was. Fortunately this injury showed ATL coaches how good Freeman is. Now let's see how quickly they forget.
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AMEN

Good to see your solid posting isn't limited to the Trump thread.

 
TDorBust said:
I have both but think today forces more of a 50/50 share which is not good for fantasy owners. Oh well I will take the basically 50 points on the day.
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ya I own both in a couple leagues too and this isn't good. Not sure if I would have rathered Freeman being awful so Coleman came back as the clear top back, or this, because I am going to win a week because of him. Gonna just ride him out as a starter until Coleman comes back.

 
zed2283 said:
I guess that's that.

It was a good run.
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Yup, hard to imagine him doing much going forward with as good as Freeman has looked. Sold him t the Freeman owner in one league last week, will try to do the same in the other than I have Coleman in. I just find it hard to believe Atlanta would go back to Coleman now with how the offense has been rolling with Freeman in there.

 
MattFancy said:
zed2283 said:
I guess that's that.

It was a good run.
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Yup, hard to imagine him doing much going forward with as good as Freeman has looked. Sold him t the Freeman owner in one league last week, will try to do the same in the other than I have Coleman in. I just find it hard to believe Atlanta would go back to Coleman now with how the offense has been rolling with Freeman in there.
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Ya... but do you just leave a talented rookie on the bench?? He'll be worked in somehow, which doesn't bode well for owners of either.

 
MattFancy said:
zed2283 said:
I guess that's that.

It was a good run.
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Yup, hard to imagine him doing much going forward with as good as Freeman has looked. Sold him t the Freeman owner in one league last week, will try to do the same in the other than I have Coleman in. I just find it hard to believe Atlanta would go back to Coleman now with how the offense has been rolling with Freeman in there.
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See it the same. We have to see this from the real world's eyes. This is a real world team that is 4-0, having success, etc. It just works. The Rb fits the system and it is exactly what they need. Could Coleman come in and do an even better job in this system? Sure could. But reality is in the NFL, when it's working, you don't monkey with it.

 
Rotoworld:

Tevin Coleman - RB - Falcons

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Sunday that Devonta Freeman remains "the guy" in Atlanta's backfield, but coach Dan Quinn is hoping to get Tevin Coleman "20 to 25 reps" against the Redskins Week 5.

With Freeman promoted to the Falcons' lead back, Coleman will mix in as a speedy change of pace. 20-25 snaps would figure to translate to no more than ten touches for Coleman unless he finds a groove in his limited playing time. As a part-time back, Coleman isn't much of a flex option against a stout Redskins run defense this week. He remains an RB4 hold in 12-team leagues.

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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Tevin Coleman - RB - Falcons

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Sunday that Devonta Freeman remains "the guy" in Atlanta's backfield, but coach Dan Quinn is hoping to get Tevin Coleman "20 to 25 reps" against the Redskins Week 5.

With Freeman promoted to the Falcons' lead back, Coleman will mix in as a speedy change of pace. 20-25 snaps would figure to translate to no more than ten touches for Coleman unless he finds a groove in his limited playing time. As a part-time back, Coleman isn't much of a flex option against a stout Redskins run defense this week. He remains an RB4 hold in 12-team leagues.

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Did he get his 20-25 reps? He had 2 carries but how often did he see the field? Is it time to just dump him or does he have any value this year and next or is he stuck behind Freeman barring injury?

 
Coleman lost his job to injury. What I saw pre-injury was encouraging. Coleman is a Freeman injury away from regaining the job. More likely is the Falcon ease him back in and he becomes a viable flex option latter in the year due to fresh legs.

My ¢2

 
Hu-Tang Clan said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Tevin Coleman - RB - Falcons

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Sunday that Devonta Freeman remains "the guy" in Atlanta's backfield, but coach Dan Quinn is hoping to get Tevin Coleman "20 to 25 reps" against the Redskins Week 5.

With Freeman promoted to the Falcons' lead back, Coleman will mix in as a speedy change of pace. 20-25 snaps would figure to translate to no more than ten touches for Coleman unless he finds a groove in his limited playing time. As a part-time back, Coleman isn't much of a flex option against a stout Redskins run defense this week. He remains an RB4 hold in 12-team leagues.

Oct 11 - 12:52 PM
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Did he get his 20-25 reps? He had 2 carries but how often did he see the field? Is it time to just dump him or does he have any value this year and next or is he stuck behind Freeman barring injury?
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Barring injury, he's #2. Freeman works his ### off. He won't let Coleman take his job.

 
lod01 said:
Hu-Tang Clan said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Tevin Coleman - RB - Falcons

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Sunday that Devonta Freeman remains "the guy" in Atlanta's backfield, but coach Dan Quinn is hoping to get Tevin Coleman "20 to 25 reps" against the Redskins Week 5.

With Freeman promoted to the Falcons' lead back, Coleman will mix in as a speedy change of pace. 20-25 snaps would figure to translate to no more than ten touches for Coleman unless he finds a groove in his limited playing time. As a part-time back, Coleman isn't much of a flex option against a stout Redskins run defense this week. He remains an RB4 hold in 12-team leagues.

Oct 11 - 12:52 PM
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Did he get his 20-25 reps? He had 2 carries but how often did he see the field? Is it time to just dump him or does he have any value this year and next or is he stuck behind Freeman barring injury?
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Barring injury, he's #2. Freeman works his ### off. He won't let Coleman take his job.
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At this point, if Freeman got hurt this coming Thursday he has shown so much in such a short window that he would have the door opened back up for him, unlike Coleman who never got anything on tape to leave coaches to think about. Freeman is the much safer bet going forward, regardless of situation. Coleman might be the next coming of Christine Michael in that there might end up being a LOT of people holding on to him the next couple of years sayings "What if" and "Just wait".

Actually, he might be the next JSTEW. It has that feeling to it more than Michael.

 
Hu-Tang Clan said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Tevin Coleman - RB - Falcons

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Sunday that Devonta Freeman remains "the guy" in Atlanta's backfield, but coach Dan Quinn is hoping to get Tevin Coleman "20 to 25 reps" against the Redskins Week 5.

With Freeman promoted to the Falcons' lead back, Coleman will mix in as a speedy change of pace. 20-25 snaps would figure to translate to no more than ten touches for Coleman unless he finds a groove in his limited playing time. As a part-time back, Coleman isn't much of a flex option against a stout Redskins run defense this week. He remains an RB4 hold in 12-team leagues.

Oct 11 - 12:52 PM
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Did he get his 20-25 reps? He had 2 carries but how often did he see the field? Is it time to just dump him or does he have any value this year and next or is he stuck behind Freeman barring injury?
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He played 9 snaps.

 
Wouldn't it be nice to stick it to the Freeman owner and have Coleman rostered for when Devonta breaks down? Short benches make it tough, but the major "screw you" points are very tempting

 
So I know we don't root for injury, but since he's already hurt I wouldn't mind seeing Freeman sit for several weeks.

 
Week 12 Rookie Report

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Tevin Coleman (RB-Atl)

When the Falcons drafted Tevin Coleman early in the third round of the 2015 draft, it was presumed they wanted him to be their starting running back, with Devonta Freeman working as a change-of-pace. Both players had 29 touches through two weeks before Coleman missed Weeks 3 and 4 with a rib injury, opening up the backfield for Freeman.

Freeman ran away with the job over the next seven games, playing like one of the best backs in football. A concussion early in last weeks game against the Colts knocked him out early and kept him out of Week 12s loss to the Vikings, giving Coleman the opportunity to step up. The rookie responded with his first career 100-yard game, rushing for 110 yards on 18 carries.

Atlanta made it a point to establish Coleman early, handing the ball to him on their first three plays of the game. His seven-yard run on the first snap displayed his vision and instincts to find the open lane, as Coleman waited for his fullback to seal his block before cutting to the backside and picking up seven yards. Coleman picked up just two yards on the next two plays, though, forcing Atlanta to punt.

The Falcons went right back to Coleman on their next drive with a toss to the right, and the rookie used his speed to get outside before patiently waiting for his fullback to seal off the corner and bursting to the second level for 46 yards. Coleman straight-armed safety Antone Exum off him down the field, but didnt protect the ball after that move as Anthony Barr came from behind to knock it into the air, where Exum grabbed it to force the turnover.

Atlantas next drive started with four straight passes before Coleman saw another carry, which went for eight yards after a good cutback into the hole. The rookie showed nice balance on the play, stumbling through the opening but staying on his feet to finish the run. One of Colemans strengths at Indiana was falling forward at the end of his runs, and he consistently added an extra yard or two to his runs Sunday by refusing to go down easily on first contact.

Down four points coming out of halftime, the Falcons leaned heavily on Coleman on their initial drive of the third quarter after marching into Vikings territory. The 6-1, 210-pounder showed an innate ability to avoid backfield penetration on multiple plays, juking to redirect behind the line of scrimmage and avoiding losses, as Coleman was stopped just once for negative yardage.

Even when the holes didnt open immediately, the rookie did well not to stop his feet in the backfield, which was a key to his 16-yard run that brought Atlanta down to the 1-yard line. Rather than freezing when the hole didnt materialize right away, Coleman kept inching towards the line of scrimmage before spotting a gap and using his acceleration to hit the hole and carry safety Robert Blanton at least five yards down to the goal line.

Two plays later, Coleman scored on a toss to the left side, showing good speed to turn the corner past the defensive end before cutting back inside his block. Unfortunately, the TD was called back due to clipping and Colemans alligator arms caused him to drop an easy slip screen on the following play. The Falcons then turned to the air, and Matt Ryan threw a deflating interception in the end zone.

Coleman had another bad drop in the fourth quarter. After beating Barr down the sideline, Ryan hit Coleman right in the hands with a pass that the rookie runner dropped before Barr recovered to knock the pass away for good. Coleman didnt receive another carry or target the rest of the way as the Falcons turned to Terron Ward and their two-minute offense in a comeback attempt.

The numbers look nice on paper, and Coleman showed some very nice traits Sunday that will serve him well as a future starter. The fumble and drops were poor, however, and there is little doubt that Freeman will be back to serve as the starter in Week 13. Coleman should see a few touches as a change-of-pace back but as long as Freeman is in Atlanta and healthy, the rookies path to a starting job will be a difficult one despite showing what he was capable of Sunday.
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Now we have to worry about players in the shower.

Tevin Coleman is in the league's concussion protocol.

Coleman slipped in the shower Wednesday and hit his head. A seldom-used backup anyway, the rookie is unlikely to play against the Panthers. Terron Ward will serve as Devonta Freeman's backup if Coleman cannot play.


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ESPN Falcons reporter Vaughn McClure cautioned to "not count out" Tevin Coleman at running back.
The Falcons' higher-ups have been talking up Coleman since the season ended, with coach Dan Quinn calling Coleman-Devonta Freeman a "unique combination" and GM Thomas Dimitroff labeling the duo a "tandem" in the backfield. Per McClure, Freeman "can't afford to let his guard down" with the team still believing in Coleman's big-play ability. Coleman is a solid late-round flier in fantasy drafts right now. He was handpicked by the current regime.

 
 
Source: ESPN.com 
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Falcons RBs coach Bobby Turner says the team wants Tevin Coleman to get the ball more this season.
"(I’d) obviously like to get Tevin more involved and that also keeps (Devonta Freeman) fresher," Turner said. "We want them competing. ... They both can catch the football. They both have run instincts. When it comes down to it, the one difference is the flat out long speed of Tevin Coleman." A bigger role seemed like a certainty for Coleman this season, but it's noteworthy that the Falcons are already confirming it before camp. Freeman remains a low-end RB1, but Coleman is one of the league's highest-upside handcuffs. He's worth a mid- to late-round pick in all formats.
 

Related: Devonta Freeman
 
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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The Falcons want to get second-year RB Tevin Coleman more involved as a pass catcher this season.
At least once a week, the Falcons talk about getting last year's third-rounder more touches. "They’re finding more ways to get the backs out there and get them the ball," Coleman said. "So it’s going to be exciting for us to be back there and get the ball more than just running." Catching the ball is one of Devonta Freeman's fantasy firewalls after he notched 73 receptions last season, but Coleman had decent hands in college. The Falcons seem deadly serious about having more of a committee this season, but Freeman's red zone and third-down work still have him on the RB1/2 borderline.
 

Related: Devonta Freeman
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BigSteelThrill said:
Makes sense. He has to up his pass game ability if he is to spell Freeman for entire drives. His 2 catches is scary bad.
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He wasn't good as a rookie in this area at all. 11 targets 2 receptions 14 yards 18.2% catch rate (puke) 7 yards per reception 1.3 yards per target.

Tevin Coleman college receiving stats.

2012 11 targets 10 receptions    49 yards 90.9% catch rate 4,9 yards per reception 4.5 yards per target    
2013 23 targets    19 receptions    193 yards 82.6% catch rate 10.2 yards per reception 8.4 yards per target    
2014 33    targets 25 receptions    141 yards 75.8% catch rate 5.6 yards per reception 4.3 yards per target

Total 67 targets 54 recrptions 383 yards 80.6% catch rate 7.1 yards per reception 5.7 yards per target

This isn't bad and a lot better than he performed as a pro. Still kind of week in the yards per target category.

For comparisons sake

Devonta Freeman    

2011 18  targets 15 receptions 111 yards 83.3% catch rate 7.4 yards per reception 6.2 yards per target    
2012 12 targets    10 receptions 86 yards 83.3% catch rate 8.6 yards per reception 7.2 yards per target    
2013 25 targets    22 receptions 278 yards 88.0% catch rate 12.6 yards per reception 11.1 yards per target    

Total 55 targets 47 receptions 475 yards 85.5% catch rate 10.1 yards per reception 8.6 yards per target

Freeman was better in terms of catch rate and yards per target in college than Tevin Coleman who actually had more targets than Freeman did.

That said Colemans receiving numbers were decent in college and he should be able to improve on what he dd as a rookie if they give him the opportunity.

18% is really really bad though. So he needs to do better than that to expect any more targets.

 
I am an owner.  From what I've seen in preseason this year, he still doesn't have it.  I don't know what parts of his game he may have improved, but his running style/ability still looks the same to me.  Not very athletic and goes down easily with any contact to the legs or feet.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

 
I found him still on the board at 12.12 in my PPR league.

If Freeman misses time, he's bound to be a fantasy starter.

I'll either be able to use him, or maybe trade him to the Freeman owner. 

 
zed2283 said:
I am an owner.  From what I've seen in preseason this year, he still doesn't have it.  I don't know what parts of his game he may have improved, but his running style/ability still looks the same to me.  Not very athletic and goes down easily with any contact to the legs or feet.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Didn't see much impressive but it was limited. 

 
http://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/22368/devonta-freeman-or-tevin-coleman-falcons-to-go-with-hot-hand-at-rb

not really buying this hot hand BS.  Freeman is the starter and i'd be surprised if he doesnt get at least 2/3's of the carries this week.  I thought Coleman looked very good week 1 last year but I dont think he's THAT much better than Freeman for him to steal the full time gig away or to even earn a 50-50 timeshare.  Plus I have concerns that with an early fumble or two and coleman gets relagated to a 5 carry a week or less back.  I acquired coleman in two leagues for $1 at auction and I much prefer rostering him at that price vs. paying $45ish for freeman

 
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iamkoza said:
http://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/22368/devonta-freeman-or-tevin-coleman-falcons-to-go-with-hot-hand-at-rb

not really buying this hot hand BS.  Freeman is the starter and i'd be surprised if he doesnt get at least 2/3's of the carries this week.  I thought Coleman looked very good week 1 last year but I dont think he's THAT much better than Freeman for him to steal the full time gig away or to even earn a 50-50 timeshare.  Plus I have concerns that with an early fumble or two and coleman gets relagated to a 5 carry a week or less back.  I acquired coleman in two leagues for $1 at auction and I much prefer rostering him at that price vs. paying $45ish for freeman
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Put it this way...IF they do go 50-50 all the signs would have been there.  Where there's smoke....

 
Fantasy Football Week 1 Review: Tevin Coleman reaction and an early look at waivers

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you were wondering why last year's No. 1 running back, Devonta Freeman, was often slipping to the end of the second round in your drafts this fall, you didn't need to wait long to get an answer.

Freeman, who led the NFL with 11 rushing touchdowns and racked up 1,634 all-purpose yards in 13 starts last season, was relegated to a mere bit role in Week 1 against the Buccaneers. He finished with 20 yards on 11 carries and added 20 more on four receptions, and though he led the running backs corps in snaps overall, it was close. That's because Tevin Coleman, Freeman's ostensible backup, totally outperformed last year's breakout star, and he did it in the most unlikely way possible.

Freeman led Coleman in snaps, 36-32, but it was Coleman who was the team's best option out of the backfield. Freeman finished with 15 touches to Coleman's 11, but Coleman racked up 95 yards through the air on six receptions, while being targeted eight times. To get a sense of how unexpected Coleman's dominance through the air was, he had just two receptions on 11 targets last season, while playing 226 total offensive snaps.

At one point, Coleman even lined up wide in a trips formation, with Freeman serving as the lone back in the backfield. It was Coleman, then, who emerged as the team's do-it-all back, after looking like a rushing specialist only last season. This may have just been a matchup thing. Maybe Coleman had the hot hand, and it will be Freeman who gets the big workload next week. However, Coleman earned the starting job out of camp last year, and it was only an injury that pushed Freeman into the starting role.

It isn't time for Freeman owners to panic, to be sure. He still got more touches and snaps than Coleman, after all, so it may have just been a good game for Coleman. However, Coleman is out there on waivers in 41 percent of CBS Sports leagues, and given what he showed Sunday, should be the top target going into Week 2.
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Coleman blew it up in receiving, who saw that coming after only 2 catches total last year? Atlanta definitely committed to putting him out in space to give his break away speed some room to run.

 
Coleman's straight line speed is pretty insane. I imagine he's going to have a healthy amount of 40+ catches/runs this year as long as ATL schemes him into space. Still, I think knocks on him coming out of college were still apparent in his play today. His vision is average, he's not particularly shifty and he doesn't break many tackles. It was really good to see him used in the screen game though and if that continues I imagine he could hold some stand alone flex value in PPR. He was utilized 14 times (6 targets, 8 carries) to Freeman's 15 (4 targets, 11 carries).

 
According to Bloom he's just a boom or bust FLEX play?  Losing me a title bit on that one.

He sure hasn't busted yet...   He's a high upside RB2. 

 
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Pretty good flex option.  Should be close to Top 5 RB after this week.  

Has become the most dangerous recieving threat out of the backfield in the NFL. 

 
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Coleman is killing it and I see no reason it stops.   There is enough production to go around in the Atlanta backfield.   I would almost say they are both RB1s until proven otherwise.  In PPR it's hard to say you would take a guy like Lamar Miller or Gurley over either of them right now. 

 
Just traded Bree's, Snead, and Matt Jones for Coleman and Dak. I spent a lot but it doesn't hurt my team . I needed a RB. 

 
His point per touch must be absolutely insane because he's not really getting much work. Hell, he's only on the field about 40% of the time a game.


 


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There are more than 25 RB's with more touches, but he ranks 5th in PPR scoring among backs and 7th in standard scoring format.  Efficient, but will be hard to maintain.  Freeman has run the ball a bit more effectively but is not nearly as explosive catching the ball.  Coleman looked like a WR on that TD. 

 
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