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RB Willis McGahee is STILL Overrated (2 Viewers)

No complaints here with McGahee. What's interesting is he's so close to a monster game. He could've had a multiple-TD game yesterday and he had a 54-yard run called back late because of a penalty. He's going to explode real real soon in my opinion.

 
ill also toss out there that mcgahee scored once in 4th vs. arizona when the game was completely out of hand, and twice in the 4th vs. seattle when the game was completely out of hand - points in the game when the bills were up at least 21. As the season went on, the bills realized that they needed to protect willis - pulling him in garbage time - shaud williams scored twice in garbage time in the last 4 games. Another reason that his TD total from last year is deceiving.
so, you are predicting that the Bills will never win any games by a large margin in 2005? I don't see why people are discounting a player for scoring TDs. That's exactly what I look for from a RB1.If the over/under on McGahee's TD total in 2005 is 12, I'm betting the over. There are no other RBs outside of the top-4 that I would say that about.
I'll take that bet. O/U 12, 12 is a push. Name your price
$20, with the stipulation that he plays at least 12 games.
Giddy-up
On pace for 9.6 :thumbup:

 
After week 5, Willis is ranked #8 in YTD points among RBs, and #13 in fantasy points/game.
Top 5 pick who finishes #13 overall is overrated, just ask all the 2004 Portis owners.
He ranks 10th in my league in RB scoring and his production is on the rise. His scoring the last three weeks would rank him 4th. No complaints from this McGahee owner.
 
When did RBs getting ops in the redzone or scoring postion become a bad thing for FF players?
It's not. But because McGahee won't compile receiving yardage totals like other backs being in the top 5 will depends on him getting significantly more TDs than the likes of Barber, Deuce, Green, and Portis (with LT, Alexander, Holmes, and Edge IMO being in the top 5). He saw the third most looks inside the 5 last year. Even in a full 16 game season, he couldn't hope for much more than what he got last year.
What makes you think this?
in order to gain receiving yards, you must catch passes.
What makes you think he wont catch any passes?
He has 8 so far, at this pace he should make 20 by year end :lmao:
 
Yeah, but what percent of goalline oppurtunities did he get? plus, me point was was that last year, people were complaining all over these boards that Manning was being selfish, and that James was not getting any goalline carries.
Perception and reality are not always the same.
i agree, my point is this. When the Bills do get inside the 5, its almost a guaranteed 6 for Willis. I cant say the same for Edge.
Even this is a bit strong. I honestly did not know what I would find when I went to the PbPs, but what I did find is that it was the exception rather than the rule for him to score with his team within the 10.As for Edge vs. McGahee inside the 5, why do I have to choose here? I will take someone effective within the 5 instead, like a Tiki Barber or a Holmes
I was only using James as an example because he seems to be one of the players that most people have as a top 5 guy. You can choose Barber if you want, but i dont reccomend taking him on the top 5 in your draft. And wait, did you just insinuate that Barber is a good goalline back? :confused:
S, BS you need to spend some time with the numbers. Data Dominator is powerful - use it.Here are goalline numbers last year (filtered for minimum 10 goalline rushes.

http://footballguys.com/datadom.php?pt=p&g...l=10&mincat=rsh

It is sorted by fantasy points right now. Import the numbers into Excel and make a new category, TD / rush, and it will become even more revealing.

Tiki: 10 TDs, 15 rushes

Willis: 9 TDs, 25 rushes
Wilked, you should look at more than last years numbers. Barber has never been what i would call a consistent TD guy.
OK, 2002

8 TDs, 21 rushes

Still getting TDs at a better clip than Willis
:thumbup:
 
He is tied for 9th in total fantasy pointsamong RBs in my league. This is only week 6, theres still a long way to go. There's no reason he can't finish top ten, especailly now that Losman is no longer the QB. With the passing game opening up, the running game should also improve.

 
He is tied for 9th in total fantasy pointsamong RBs in my league.
This discussion is incomplete without a full listing of your league's scoring, rules, and full draft results
 
He is tied for 9th in total fantasy pointsamong RBs in my league.
This discussion is incomplete without a full listing of your league's scoring, rules, and full draft results
No its not. It doesnt matter what my league scoring rules are. people are saying that he is over-rated and i'm saying that in my league he is not. Yes, its all relative, but its also relative to those who say he is over-rated. why don't you ask those people what their scoring system is?
 
He is tied for 9th in total fantasy pointsamong RBs in my league.
This discussion is incomplete without a full listing of your league's scoring, rules, and full draft results
No its not. It doesnt matter what my league scoring rules are. people are saying that he is over-rated and i'm saying that in my league he is not. Yes, its all relative, but its also relative to those who say he is over-rated. why don't you ask those people what their scoring system is?
Because those people are right? :unsure: ;)
 
He is tied for 9th in total fantasy pointsamong RBs in my league.
This discussion is incomplete without a full listing of your league's scoring, rules, and full draft results
No its not. It doesnt matter what my league scoring rules are. people are saying that he is over-rated and i'm saying that in my league he is not. Yes, its all relative, but its also relative to those who say he is over-rated. why don't you ask those people what their scoring system is?
That's a very good point. As I posted earlier, McGahee is 8th in my league in scoring but he's been trending upward the past three weeks during which time his production would rank 4th overall in my league. If he maintains that pace, stays close to it or (gasp!) improves upon it he clearly will have been worth the high ranking he deserved (for the record, McGahee was my keeper in a 1-keeper league but I had him ranked 5th among RBs going into the season).But even in "traditional" scoring systems he ranks 8th among RBs heading into this week. He is only 7 total points behind the No. 5 RB, who just happens to be someone with serious durability issues (Stephen Davis) and only 9 points separates him from the No. 4 RB so far this season (Westbrook). Not to mention the RB ranked 7th (Thomas Jones) may not play this week and is no lock to keep his starting job. So it's quite possible McGahee will move up to 7th after this weekend and in the not-too-distant future he could move up even higher.

So please tell me again how he's a bust if he's only a few points off the ranking he was given by many people heading into the season?

 
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I am pleased with McGahee, he's scored me 12,3, 20,15,14 this year. My other RB KJ has scored me 8,2,9,17 points this year. McGahee has been one of the bright spots in my lineup.Currently the RB rankings in my league are as follows:1. LT2. SA3. Edge4. BW5. S. Davis6. Dillon7. T. Jones8. McGaheeMcgahee has 64 points in my league with Edge #3 having 79 points. Hardly a BUST.

 
I got Willis with #18 and am very happy. It helps to have Edge #7 & S. Jackson #31. So far Willis is #12 in points, but only 6 points behind #5.LT - 140S Alex - 113Westbrook - 101Edge - 97S Jax - 81L Jordan - 79T Jones -79Duece - 78J. Jones - 77Dillon - 76S. Davis - 76Willis - 75Duece is out; TJ & JJ nursing injuries and Davis on the verge of an injury...I see Willis in the top 7 after this week. However, there is a big drop off from Edge down to the rest. Only Jordan & T Jones have had their bye week of this group. Also you have Tiki & Priest right behind this group with a bye behind them.Willis should be top 10 at the end of the year barring injury.If all (6-12) these guys stay healthy they are pretty interchangable.

 
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Traded him for Priest...not as much as I expected from an easy early schedule..Not liking his upcoming schedule. JMHO

 
If you were drafting right now, how many RBs would you draft ahead of McGahee for the season going forward?I think it would be tough to find 5 or 6 that would be obvious choices.

 
from a FF standpoint, i think hes overrated. he does almost nothing as a wr and needs to rush for 1600 yards and 15 tds to earn such a high position. those are pretty lofty #s, even though he could get them

 
from a FF standpoint, i think hes overrated. he does almost nothing as a wr and needs to rush for 1600 yards and 15 tds to earn such a high position. those are pretty lofty #s, even though he could get them
I think you need to put the bowl down and quit smoking when your talking fantasy football... :loco:
 
from a FF standpoint, i think hes overrated. he does almost nothing as a wr and needs to rush for 1600 yards and 15 tds to earn such a high position. those are pretty lofty #s, even though he could get them
You just fall off the turnip truck? :confused:
 
If you were drafting right now, how many RBs would you draft ahead of McGahee for the season going forward?

I think it would be tough to find 5 or 6 that would be obvious choices.
I'm thinking the following RBs would probably deserve to go ahead of McGahee if we were drafting right now:1. LT2

2. Alexander

3. James

4. Holmes

5. Barber

anyone else that you think would clearly belong ahead of him going forward?

 
If you were drafting right now, how many RBs would you draft ahead of McGahee for the season going forward?

I think it would be tough to find 5 or 6 that would be obvious choices.
I'm thinking the following RBs would probably deserve to go ahead of McGahee if we were drafting right now:1. LT2

2. Alexander

3. James

4. Holmes

5. Barber

anyone else that you think would clearly belong ahead of him going forward?
Fixed.Jhoe T swings and whiffs yet again.

 
If you were drafting right now, how many RBs would you draft ahead of McGahee for the season going forward?

I think it would be tough to find 5 or 6 that would be obvious choices.
I'm thinking the following RBs would probably deserve to go ahead of McGahee if we were drafting right now:1. LT2

2. Alexander

3. James

4. Holmes

5. Barber

anyone else that you think would clearly belong ahead of him going forward?
Fixed.Jhoe T swings and whiffs yet again.
I wouldn't even put Edge in there to be honest.
 
willis ran like a man posessed today. I honestly think he is the 2nd most talented back in the league behind LT. Guy is a stud.

 
Willis is a stud, he's even better now that I have splinters in my rear, one of these weeks he's gonna bust a 200 yard game.

 
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I traded Eli Manning and Ricky Wiliams for McGahee and Leftwich. My starting QB is Peyton.The next few weeks should be huge for McGahee.

 
Willis is a stud, he's even better now that I have splinters in my rear, one of these weeks he's gonna bust a 200 yard game.
That's the thing -- if you watch McGahee you can see he's so close to busting off a monster game. He hasn't had a multiple-TD game yet (he just missed last week) and he's had a lot of good runs called back by penalty (he had a couple of those today and a 54 yarder last week). He's been rock solid and very strong this season but watching him play I have a feeling he's going to explode in a huge way sometime real soon.
 
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I wouldn't even put Edge in there to be honest.
Colts have been relying on the running game pretty heavily this year and James has put up solid numbers in all 5 games. He clearly has a better surrounding cast, and I also think he has an easier remaining SOS.Would be tough to take Willis over James now, IMO.
 
Took him #2 in a dynasty draft this offseason. Sorry Rude. :)
great pick. My 1st round pick of Peyton isn't working out like I expected, but I still wound up with Tiki Barber and Rudi Johnson at RB so I can't complain.
 
Willis is a stud, he's even better now that I have splinters in my rear, one of these weeks he's gonna bust a 200 yard game.
That's the thing -- if you watch McGahee you can see he's so close to busting off a monster game. He hasn't had a multiple-TD game yet (he just missed last week) and he's had a lot of good runs called back by penalty (he had a couple of those today and a 54 yarder last week). He's been rock solid and very strong this season but watching him play I have a feeling he's going to explode in a huge way sometime real soon.
I agree, when you watch him run it doesn't look like he's moving all that fast, he just sort of glides like he's on a hover board to positive yardage.
 
I wouldn't even put Edge in there to be honest.
Colts have been relying on the running game pretty heavily this year and James has put up solid numbers in all 5 games. He clearly has a better surrounding cast, and I also think he has an easier remaining SOS.Would be tough to take Willis over James now, IMO.
Don't discount the fact that Willis was without Mike Williams and Villarial for parts of the year, coupled with Losman's shaky performances *cough* he is in line for more big games.
 

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