RB/WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Free Agent (2 Viewers)

[Warpig]

He's going to my bench in favor of Allen Hurns...and I'm in a return yardage league. :X

 

[rickyg]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

So, last year in the last 6 GES of the season where he was one of the top WRS in fantasy...that was because he sucks?

Or could it be that this year he isn't being used correctly and has garbage for quarterbacks?

Do you believe that jarous wright is going to have 2500 yards receiving and 20 TDS? If not, the where are bridgewaters' other passing stats going to go? Patterson is a very talented player but he is in a new offense that is heavily in flux rt now with a freaking qb carousel.

Hold.

 

[pantherclub]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

So, last year in the last 6 GES of the season where he was one of the top WRS in fantasy...that was because he sucks?

Or could it be that this year he isn't being used correctly and has garbage for quarterbacks?

Do you believe that jarous wright is going to have 2500 yards receiving and 20 TDS? If not, the where are bridgewaters' other passing stats going to go? Patterson is a very talented player but he is in a new offense that is heavily in flux rt now with a freaking qb carousel.

Hold.

you may want to check your stats there. He had one, good game where he had 8 catches, the next best was 5 and then dog crap from there.

and secondly that is a horrible strategy planning on a guy getting stats based on default. He is not a good wr and gets the bulk of his fantasy points from rushes/rushing td's. Those are the facts.

 

[irish eyes]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

Absolutely agree, he us awful. So tired of reading all the excuses everyone in here makes for him. Ooh he has no one to throw to him, ooh they aren't using him correctly, ooh he has loads of talent..Cutting immediately, terrible terrible terrible.

 

[werdnoynek]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

 

[pantherclub]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

 

[Insein]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

 

[werdnoynek]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

Who exactly is a better gamble?

 

[werdnoynek]

Lot of wet blankets in here. Wring them out and cuddle up. There are brighter days ahead.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Patterson seems just as confused as we are:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/03/cordarrelle-patterson-says-hip-is-fine-hopes-to-get-more-work/

The team has talked about the need to get the ball into Patterson’s hands, but it hasn’t happened.

“I wish I knew the answer,” Patterson said, via the Pioneer Press. “I want to be more involved. I don’t know what’s going on. We have a plan. I’m sticking to the plan. I trust coach [Norv] Turner and the whole staff with what they’re doing. It’s going to turn around. Hopefully I get more touches.”

 

[pantherclub]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

Who exactly is a better gamble?

darrin reaves for now, depends on the league I guess

 

[Warpig]

In dynasty, you have to hold. But ofcourse in redraft you punt his ### down the road.

He had horrible QB play last year as well and his scoring was inconsistent at best.

This year it is the game planning and play calling. Norv can run his suck all he wants about getting CP more involved. He's certainly not been backing up his words in the plays being called.

The Vikings are a train wreck just like the raiders and none of them are fantasy relevent on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Any chance he gets traded out of Minny during this off-season?

 

[KellysHeroes]

In dynasty, you have to hold. But ofcourse in redraft you punt his ### down the road.

He had horrible QB play last year as well and his scoring was inconsistent at best.

This year it is the game planning and play calling. Norv can run his suck all he wants about getting CP more involved. He's certainly not been backing up his words in the plays being called.

The Vikings are a train wreck just like the raiders and none of them are fantasy relevent on the offensive side of the ball.

With the raiders atleast James Jones was startable... minny is just awful

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Exciting player, but his fantasy prospects for this year were always out of whack. He put up intermittent good fantasy numbers last year because of his surprise rushing totals. But he wasn't catching a lot of balls, and that tends to be important over the long haul for receivers.

He could still develop, but as a RECEIVER he has a lot of issues and folks were on the train too early.

 

[irish eyes]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

This makes absolutely no sense. An outlier??? That would mean he would actually had done something this year, which he hasn't. And no one else on waiver wire has potential to put up jack squat?OK.

 

[Ghost Rider]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I gave him four weeks, one productive week due to a long rushing TD is all he has done all year. Honestly, if you paid any attention to Week 4 - strictly a decoy and fake reverses - then shame on anyone who started him on a Thursday Night game with Ponder at QB.

Holding in 12 and 14 team redrafts, but no way I would put him in a lineup again unless Bridgewater starts looking his way when he returns..

 

[jurb26]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

 

[Ghost Rider]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

 

[jurb26]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

Those are the times it was abundantly clear. It's hard to see how open a guy gets when the ball isn't thrown his way without coaches film or being at the game. So, yeah, 3 times that it was glaring and obvious via TV is good for him. 1 he beat his CB easily on a deep fly pattern vs single high S. Ponder never looked his way.

2 he ran a nice deep in/drag route and had 2 steps on the CB with room to run. Ponder got pummeled by the rush before he could get the ball out. Not Ponders fault.

3 he ran wide open with no one within 5 yds on a short drag across the field. Ponder never looked his way even though he got pressured and had him for an easy saftie valve option.

The bottom line is he isn't getting the looks. Some of that has been poor QB play, some poor Oline play and some him still developing his game. He has to get better at the LOS for sure. I've said this for a while actually but it's becoming more and more clear as teams continually shift coverage his way this year. He isn't using his hands well to free himself and seems to want to utilize only his lower body to release. That's not going to work at the NFL level. Once he gets into his route he looks much better as a route runner.

 

[Insein]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

Uh huh.

 

[werdnoynek]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

Who exactly is a better gamble?

darrin reaves for now, depends on the league I guess

A week replacement?? Whoever is picking up Cordarelle is probably doing cartwheels right about now.

 

[Concept Coop]

Any chance he gets traded out of Minny during this off-season?

I think they're happy with him. He's one of the best return men in the league.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Some fun facts with stats.

Patterson has played 21 games in his career.

He has 102 targets in those games. (average of just under 5 targets/game).

He has 1 game lifetime with more than 62 yards receiving.

He has 2 games lifetime with more than 7 targets

He has 1 game lifetime with more than 5 catches.

He averages 10.97 yards/reception over his first 60 career catches.

As a receiver he has 2 plays longer than 30 yards.

Maybe this guy can make himself into a good WR at some point in his career. It's obviously not there yet. I'm wondering if he's more Devin Hester/Jacoby Jones/Ted Ginn than an actual WR.

 

[Concept Coop]

Those are the times it was abundantly clear. It's hard to see how open a guy gets when the ball isn't thrown his way without coaches film or being at the game. So, yeah, 3 times that it was glaring and obvious via TV is good for him.1 he beat his CB easily on a deep fly pattern vs single high S. Ponder never looked his way.

2 he ran a nice deep in/drag route and had 2 steps on the CB with room to run. Ponder got pummeled by the rush before he could get the ball out. Not Ponders fault.

3 he ran wide open with no one within 5 yds on a short drag across the field. Ponder never looked his way even though he got pressured and had him for an easy saftie valve option.

The bottom line is he isn't getting the looks. Some of that has been poor QB play, some poor Oline play and some him still developing his game. He has to get better at the LOS for sure. I've said this for a while actually but it's becoming more and more clear as teams continually shift coverage his way this year. He isn't using his hands well to free himself and seems to want to utilize only his lower body to release. That's not going to work at the NFL level. Once he gets into his route he looks much better as a route runner.

You could rationalize this way for most players in the league.

If three different QBs aren't looking his way--that should tell you something. They either don't trust him, or the OC doesn't trust him to be the first read.

 

[Concept Coop]

Some fun facts with stats.

Patterson has played 20 games in his career.

He has 102 targets in those games. (average of 5 targets/game).

He has 1 game lifetime with more than 62 yards receiving.

He has 2 games lifetime with more than 7 targets

He has 1 game lifetime with more than 5 catches.

He averages 10.97 yards/reception over his first 60 career catches.

As a receiver he has 2 plays longer than 30 yards.

Maybe this guy can make himself into a good WR at some point in his career. It's obviously not there yet. I'm wondering if he's more Devin Hester/Jacoby Jones/Ted Ginn than an actual WR.

This. The hype stemmed from his rushing production and a few highlights. He never did anything more than Tavon Austin, as a WR.

 

[pantherclub]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

Who exactly is a better gamble?

darrin reaves for now, depends on the league I guess

A week replacement?? Whoever is picking up Cordarelle is probably doing cartwheels right about now.

why?

 

[Black]

From the limited games I've seen of him, his route running/technique is very rough. I'd leverage part of that to him coming out of college early and never really being in a spot where he couldn't mask this deficiency with his athleticism.

Now in the NFL, he has a lot of work to do especially in press coverage. I thought Dez struggled his first couple years against press, but CP takes "struggle" to a whole new level. Everyone knows he's dangerous once he has the ball, which is why teams are now pressing. Since he isn't breaking the press, teams aren't even forced to play a safety over the top. Once he learns how to beat that coverage it will open up the deeper plays. Not just the fades, but back shoulder passes, digs, etc.

He's firmly planted on my bench. I don't see him doing much until later in the year if at all.

It doesn't look like he is trying. He doesn't sell routes when he's not getting the ball; he doesn't block on running plays (half-heartedly grabs the shoulder pads of the CB in front of him and gives a little push while looking over at the running play).

I'm getting a Randy Moss in Oakland vibe from him right now.

They took him off kickoff returns for the second half (maybe it was the hip injury?), but either way, it's not looking good.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

Well, that's your problem right there...

 

[pantherclub]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

Well, that's your problem right there...

help me out here, what should I be looking at?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

This guy is the true definition of boom or bust. Either he's making some insane highlight play or he's absolutely invisible. He's that sports car that is on the track five days out of the year and in a garage the rest of the time. He's a far better player in reality than he is in fantasy because there is major value in being a decoy in reality--there is none in fantasy. With Ponder at qb--he's a desperation wr4-wr5 play. With a healthy Bridgewater--he could be a boom or bust wr3--but I think that it would be hard to trust him as any more than that at this point in time. I don't own him in any leagues--but I would call him a hold until we see what Teddy Bridgewater really is as a starting NFL QB. I have to admit that I'm not a Matthew Berry fan, but I was reading his Love/Hate for this week (yes, I should probably nut punch myself for reading it)--and he was talking about how he traded Patterson away for Gronk. I'm just wondering what kind of tranquilizer dart he used on his trading partner to make that trade happen.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

Those are the times it was abundantly clear. It's hard to see how open a guy gets when the ball isn't thrown his way without coaches film or being at the game. So, yeah, 3 times that it was glaring and obvious via TV is good for him. 1 he beat his CB easily on a deep fly pattern vs single high S. Ponder never looked his way.

2 he ran a nice deep in/drag route and had 2 steps on the CB with room to run. Ponder got pummeled by the rush before he could get the ball out. Not Ponders fault.

3 he ran wide open with no one within 5 yds on a short drag across the field. Ponder never looked his way even though he got pressured and had him for an easy saftie valve option.

The bottom line is he isn't getting the looks. Some of that has been poor QB play, some poor Oline play and some him still developing his game. He has to get better at the LOS for sure. I've said this for a while actually but it's becoming more and more clear as teams continually shift coverage his way this year. He isn't using his hands well to free himself and seems to want to utilize only his lower body to release. That's not going to work at the NFL level. Once he gets into his route he looks much better as a route runner.

He also fell down all by himself. Twice.

What are we talikng about here? Does getting open matter if QBs aren't competent enough to get him the ball when he does? Does he win his matchup often enough that they look his way frequently?

My gut is that the answer is no. He's not winning often enough to see the ball. Then when he is open, he's an afterthought because they aren't used to him being open. 3 different QBs now have ignored him this season. QBs' faults? Possibly. OC's fault? Unlikely. Patterson's fault? Probably.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think CP will have 2-4 monstrous fantasy weeks and the other 12-14 will be short of expectations for a 4th rounder. The decision to start or bench for fantasy owners will be grueling, comparable to Mike Wallace last year.

Like I said before, boom or bust. There are going to be a LOT of weeks like the for CP owners. Get used to it.

What are your weekly expectations of a 4th round WR? For reference, here are the games so far by WRs with ADP in the 4th round this year other than Patterson.

77yds, 0 TD

12yds, 0 TD

37yds, 0 TD

55yds, 0 TD

22yds, 0 TD

51yds, 0 TD

72yds, 1 TD

42yds, 0 TD

93yds, 0 TD

74yds, 0 TD

How often do you think 4th round WRs are putting up 100yds and a TD? This year in 10 games from 4th round WRs (other than Patterson) there is one combined TD and zero combined 100 yard games. 6 out of 10 were worse than Patterson's 56/0 and 10 out of 10 were worse than Patterson's week 1. Out of 12 total games from 4th round WRs counting Patterson, he has put up the 1st and 6th best scores. How exactly is that "below 4th round expectations"?

Way below expectations of drafters in the 4th. WAY below.

 

[meatwad1]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble? Obviously, he is nothing more than an emergency fill in at this point, but dropping him is crazy. After this week, there will be pressure on the coaching staff to make something happen. I mean, he is not even getting any rushing attempts and he should be getting at least three a game! That is Turner's fault. Give it another four weeks and if still produces nothing, well then it might be o.k to cut bait.

 

[meatwad1]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

Those are the times it was abundantly clear. It's hard to see how open a guy gets when the ball isn't thrown his way without coaches film or being at the game. So, yeah, 3 times that it was glaring and obvious via TV is good for him.1 he beat his CB easily on a deep fly pattern vs single high S. Ponder never looked his way.

2 he ran a nice deep in/drag route and had 2 steps on the CB with room to run. Ponder got pummeled by the rush before he could get the ball out. Not Ponders fault.

3 he ran wide open with no one within 5 yds on a short drag across the field. Ponder never looked his way even though he got pressured and had him for an easy saftie valve option.

The bottom line is he isn't getting the looks. Some of that has been poor QB play, some poor Oline play and some him still developing his game. He has to get better at the LOS for sure. I've said this for a while actually but it's becoming more and more clear as teams continually shift coverage his way this year. He isn't using his hands well to free himself and seems to want to utilize only his lower body to release. That's not going to work at the NFL level. Once he gets into his route he looks much better as a route runner.

He also fell down all by himself. Twice.

What are we talikng about here? Does getting open matter if QBs aren't competent enough to get him the ball when he does? Does he win his matchup often enough that they look his way frequently?

My gut is that the answer is no. He's not winning often enough to see the ball. Then when he is open, he's an afterthought because they aren't used to him being open. 3 different QBs now have ignored him this season. QBs' faults? Possibly. OC's fault? Unlikely. Patterson's fault? Probably.

Guys were falling down all over the place last night on both sides.

 

[jurb26]

completely droppable now

the overhype on this kid here in the shark pool will be something talked about and dissected for years

He just isnt that good

How can you tell? He hasn't had the ball since week 1.

Probably cause he struggles to get open on a regular basis. Some of us said how he was still very raw as a route runner and pass catcher, but many didn't want to hear it. But, since he is so electric when you get the ball in his hands, it is puzzling why they haven't at least given him a few runs per game.

Yeah, except he's been open. Like 3 times last night he was wide open.

Three whole times? Wow, good for him.

The bottom line is, his inconsistency is why he is not producing.

Those are the times it was abundantly clear. It's hard to see how open a guy gets when the ball isn't thrown his way without coaches film or being at the game. So, yeah, 3 times that it was glaring and obvious via TV is good for him. 1 he beat his CB easily on a deep fly pattern vs single high S. Ponder never looked his way.

2 he ran a nice deep in/drag route and had 2 steps on the CB with room to run. Ponder got pummeled by the rush before he could get the ball out. Not Ponders fault.

3 he ran wide open with no one within 5 yds on a short drag across the field. Ponder never looked his way even though he got pressured and had him for an easy saftie valve option.

The bottom line is he isn't getting the looks. Some of that has been poor QB play, some poor Oline play and some him still developing his game. He has to get better at the LOS for sure. I've said this for a while actually but it's becoming more and more clear as teams continually shift coverage his way this year. He isn't using his hands well to free himself and seems to want to utilize only his lower body to release. That's not going to work at the NFL level. Once he gets into his route he looks much better as a route runner.

He also fell down all by himself. Twice. What are we talikng about here? Does getting open matter if QBs aren't competent enough to get him the ball when he does? Does he win his matchup often enough that they look his way frequently?

My gut is that the answer is no. He's not winning often enough to see the ball. Then when he is open, he's an afterthought because they aren't used to him being open. 3 different QBs now have ignored him this season. QBs' faults? Possibly. OC's fault? Unlikely. Patterson's fault? Probably.

The fault falls on everyone IMO. People making it all CPs fault are off base. People making it all the OCs or QB, off base as well. The QBs suck. We know that. Well, maybe that changes with Bridgewater. We haven't seen enough of him yet to feel that comfortable, though. By and large the QB play in Minn has been bad. The OC seemed to make an effort in week 1 to get the ball to CP. It worked, amazingly well. Since then? It's almost like they've forgotten he's on the team. Lots of decoy plays; fake bubble screens and fake runs. Knowing that CP is one of the most dynamic players in the NFL with the ball in his hands this makes little sense. Just listen to what Bill Cowher kept saying at the half last night. He gets it. Most of us get it. One part of it that seems to be getting ignored right now is that the oline play has been terrible at times. Like last night. As bad as Ponder was, the oline was almost just as bad. CP has to get better at the LOS primarily. That seems to be his biggest obstacle IMO. I think it's defintely a possibility that the QBs are shying away from him when they see the press coverage his way. They expect it will be difficult for him to release and know they aren't getting much time to throw so they start looking the other way immediately.

 

[Concept Coop]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble?

Eddie Royal.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

As a guy who watched him at UT, I can tell you that neither he nor Justin Hunter ran a route correctly while in college. And that's not hyperbole, it's the straight-up truth. UT had really bad coaching at the time and we squandered some of the most athletically gifted WRs we've ever had. Da'Rick Rogers was another freak we had at the same time. Patterson is simply amazing once he has the ball in his hands. He's Percy Harvin sans the injuries. It's the GETTING him the ball part that's tough. Raw is too kind when describing his route running.

That said, the Vikes have hardly been creative. In all seriousness, what about Ponder's play last night caused the staff to NOT try a couple direct snaps to Patterson? Ponder was a train wreck against a pretty mundane defense. At least Patterson gives the threat of a big play if he gets a tiny seam.

 

[werdnoynek]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble?

Eddie Royal.

 

[WhoDat]

Observations from the last two games...

He missed, as in whiffed and did not even attempt, a down field block in the Falcons game. It was on a cross that brought Wright to his side of the field. CP engaged as a blocker potentially springs Wright

Last night he stops short of a block on another such play. He did not even opt to engage the DB. And...on his second catch...he started to curl and go down prior to being tackled

Coaches tend to notice those things

Then, in a game that was decided but you, as a coach, would hope to have him on the field to help; get some reps and such...he is gone. Not on the field in any capacity yet Jennings and Wright were

Lots of problems on the offense...plenty of blame to place...but...

The fact he has just flat out "ole'd" blocking assignments and he disappeared last night during the later part of the game could lead you to believe he was sat down

Not saying that is the case and I am really curious to see what surfaces in the news but in no way would it shock me to learn this

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

Why would you drop him??? Last night was clearly an outlier. There is no way I drop this guy in any league. No one on the waiver wire has the ability or potential that he does... hell no one in the league does.

Outlier of what exactly? I swear I dont think I am looking at the same stats as some of you.

He is not producing and if you have a limited bench there are a ton of people to gamble on. If you have an unlimited bench then sure, keep him hoping he turns it around.

Who exactly is a better gamble?

Peterson?

 

[Insein]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble? Obviously, he is nothing more than an emergency fill in at this point, but dropping him is crazy. After this week, there will be pressure on the coaching staff to make something happen. I mean, he is not even getting any rushing attempts and he should be getting at least three a game! That is Turner's fault. Give it another four weeks and if still produces nothing, well then it might be o.k to cut bait.

That's the part I don't get. First game he gets 3 carries and breaks one of them for a TD. That was with AP in there. Now with Asiata and McKinnon he can't get more than 1 carry in 3 games?

 

[meatwad1]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble?

Eddie Royal.

A calculated risk for certain....I can't help but to remember the last few years when Eddie Royal always looks like an all pro in the beginning of the year, but is next to crap by the end. I would still keep CP in the hopes that they will sort everything out within the next few weeks. I would be willing to predict that once Green and Matthews come back, we will be seeing many 3 for 36 with no td lines coming from Mr. Royal.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble?

Eddie Royal.

A calculated risk for certain....I can't help but to remember the last few years when Eddie Royal always looks like an all pro in the beginning of the year, but is next to crap by the end. I would still keep CP in the hopes that they will sort everything out within the next few weeks. I would be willing to predict that once Green and Matthews come back, we will be seeing many 3 for 36 with no td lines coming from Mr. Royal.

So his floor is higher than CP's

 

[meatwad1]

As a guy who watched him at UT, I can tell you that neither he nor Justin Hunter ran a route correctly while in college. And that's not hyperbole, it's the straight-up truth. UT had really bad coaching at the time and we squandered some of the most athletically gifted WRs we've ever had. Da'Rick Rogers was another freak we had at the same time. Patterson is simply amazing once he has the ball in his hands. He's Percy Harvin sans the injuries. It's the GETTING him the ball part that's tough. Raw is too kind when describing his route running.

That said, the Vikes have hardly been creative. In all seriousness, what about Ponder's play last night caused the staff to NOT try a couple direct snaps to Patterson? Ponder was a train wreck against a pretty mundane defense. At least Patterson gives the threat of a big play if he gets a tiny seam.

That is good info to have and it makes me a little sad, but also happy at the same time. I am sad because obviously we might be wrong about CP, as route running is a big deal for wrs. On the other hand I am happy because if you have this info, the professional coaches on the Vikings must have had it too and it looks like they might have wasted an entire offseason with him. Seeing that I am a Packer fan, this tickles me a little bit because it says alot about the Viking coaches being total idiots for not drilling the routes into him all summer. In watching that game last night, I did suspect that the Viking coaches were morons and this sort of confirms that. This is good because I like seeing the Packers in the playoffs every year. Thanks.

 

[meatwad1]

Dropping this guy is nuts right now. Who are you going to get that is a better gamble?

Eddie Royal.

A calculated risk for certain....I can't help but to remember the last few years when Eddie Royal always looks like an all pro in the beginning of the year, but is next to crap by the end. I would still keep CP in the hopes that they will sort everything out within the next few weeks. I would be willing to predict that once Green and Matthews come back, we will be seeing many 3 for 36 with no td lines coming from Mr. Royal.

So his floor is higher than CP's

To be fair, it also depends on what your situation is. I went heavy on wr this year (Julio, Dez, VJAX) so I have other options to start or flex. Obviously, not everyone did that, so I guess I could see a person might want to drop him. I would not want to have to start CP right at this moment.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

As a guy who watched him at UT, I can tell you that neither he nor Justin Hunter ran a route correctly while in college. And that's not hyperbole, it's the straight-up truth. UT had really bad coaching at the time and we squandered some of the most athletically gifted WRs we've ever had. Da'Rick Rogers was another freak we had at the same time. Patterson is simply amazing once he has the ball in his hands. He's Percy Harvin sans the injuries. It's the GETTING him the ball part that's tough. Raw is too kind when describing his route running.

That said, the Vikes have hardly been creative. In all seriousness, what about Ponder's play last night caused the staff to NOT try a couple direct snaps to Patterson? Ponder was a train wreck against a pretty mundane defense. At least Patterson gives the threat of a big play if he gets a tiny seam.

That is good info to have and it makes me a little sad, but also happy at the same time. I am sad because obviously we might be wrong about CP, as route running is a big deal for wrs. On the other hand I am happy because if you have this info, the professional coaches on the Vikings must have had it too and it looks like they might have wasted an entire offseason with him. Seeing that I am a Packer fan, this tickles me a little bit because it says alot about the Viking coaches being total idiots for not drilling the routes into him all summer. In watching that game last night, I did suspect that the Viking coaches were morons and this sort of confirms that. This is good because I like seeing the Packers in the playoffs every year. Thanks.

I don't think Zimmer and staff are morons at all. The scouting reports on Patterson coming out questioned his ability to understand route concepts. Personally, I think Patterson is a bit of a mental midget, and doesn't have the maturity etc that it takes to be great. There's an awful lot of guys that have wasted their NFL careers for many of the same reasons. This is in no way unique to Zimmer or the Vikings.

 

[Dondante]

Should have moved him for Sproles when I had the chance.

 

[Hoss Style]

As a guy who watched him at UT, I can tell you that neither he nor Justin Hunter ran a route correctly while in college. And that's not hyperbole, it's the straight-up truth. UT had really bad coaching at the time and we squandered some of the most athletically gifted WRs we've ever had. Da'Rick Rogers was another freak we had at the same time. Patterson is simply amazing once he has the ball in his hands. He's Percy Harvin sans the injuries. It's the GETTING him the ball part that's tough. Raw is too kind when describing his route running.

That said, the Vikes have hardly been creative. In all seriousness, what about Ponder's play last night caused the staff to NOT try a couple direct snaps to Patterson? Ponder was a train wreck against a pretty mundane defense. At least Patterson gives the threat of a big play if he gets a tiny seam.

That is good info to have and it makes me a little sad, but also happy at the same time. I am sad because obviously we might be wrong about CP, as route running is a big deal for wrs. On the other hand I am happy because if you have this info, the professional coaches on the Vikings must have had it too and it looks like they might have wasted an entire offseason with him. Seeing that I am a Packer fan, this tickles me a little bit because it says alot about the Viking coaches being total idiots for not drilling the routes into him all summer. In watching that game last night, I did suspect that the Viking coaches were morons and this sort of confirms that. This is good because I like seeing the Packers in the playoffs every year. Thanks.

I don't think Zimmer and staff are morons at all. The scouting reports on Patterson coming out questioned his ability to understand route concepts. Personally, I think Patterson is a bit of a mental midget, and doesn't have the maturity etc that it takes to be great. There's an awful lot of guys that have wasted their NFL careers for many of the same reasons. This is in no way unique to Zimmer or the Vikings.

If Patterson is a mental midget, like you say he may be, I'd suggest they give the mental midget the ball on a screen or two a game, or maybe an end around.