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[jdoggydogg]

Watched Gonzo the documentary on the life of Hunter S. Thompson a few days ago. That SOB was crzay but I liked it. Movie was pretty interesting too when it got into his time spend with the Hells Angels and his run for Sherrif in Aspen.

Buy The Ticket, Take the Ride is also very good, its more about other people's interactions with Thompson more so then just a straight life story.

I love Thompson's books, so I need to see these. I always liked Bill Murray playing Thompson in Where The Buffalo Roam more than Johnny Depp's version.

I prefer Peter Boyle to Benecio del Toro too. WTBR was just a better all around film IMO.

Totally. I like Depp, and I like Gilliam. But I've decided I never want to see another drug trip in a movie again. They rarely get it right, and it's a total cliche at this point. Requiem For a Dream did it better than most, and much like the torture scene cliche, I've had enough.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I caught most of Funny People on HBO (or Showtime, or something) the other night. I really liked it and am looking forward to watching the whole thing again sometime soon.I know this movie has gotten pretty mixed reviews. What is the consensus of opinion here on it?

Watched it again last week. I think it works better as a drama with humor mixed in than looking at it as a comedy. Hell, half of the stand up scenes arent even intended to be funny. Thought it was good, but not great, and I give it more credit because there arent very many movies like this. If you are looking at it for the humor though, I thought it was easily Sandler's funniest movie since Big Daddy.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Mission Impossible 2

I had never seen this before. I really enjoyed it. Pure movie cheese. The height of Tom Cruise's giant ego. Dude, look how Tom Cruise walks into a building with doves surrounding him! This movie is a lot of fun, and I want to have Thandie Newton's baby.

So you thought The Rock was awful but this was very enjoyable? Cheesy is one way of putting it, but I thought this was pretty bad - and I really like(d) both MI1 and MI3

They're both awful. MI2 was awful in a way that makes me chuckle, though.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I thought the fact that they mocked the cheesy movies Sandler's character made in FP was a nod to fans who agree with you.

Yep. I thought there were some very self-aware references to some of Sandler's more ill-conceived roles in the film.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Mission Impossible 2

I had never seen this before. I really enjoyed it. Pure movie cheese. The height of Tom Cruise's giant ego. Dude, look how Tom Cruise walks into a building with doves surrounding him! This movie is a lot of fun, and I want to have Thandie Newton's baby.

So you thought The Rock was awful but this was very enjoyable? Cheesy is one way of putting it, but I thought this was pretty bad - and I really like(d) both MI1 and MI3

At least The Rock seemed mostly aware that it was a farce.MI2 seemed to take itself seriously.

Uhhhhhh, no. Re-watch it. It knows it's stupid.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like Sandler as an actor. Just that "funny voices" never make me laugh.

I thought the fact that they mocked the cheesy movies Sandler's character made in FP was a nod to fans who agree with you.

I agree.

 

[Chaka]

You certainly don't need to defend this thread to me. It is my primary movie resource.

I don't consider anyone a movie snob here.

What he said

Although I have to admit that while I love her taste in movies (thanks again for turning me on to Waking Life) just once I would like to see krista break off a post telling us how much she loved Weekend At Bernie's II.

 

[Chaka]

Watched Gonzo the documentary on the life of Hunter S. Thompson a few days ago. That SOB was crzay but I liked it. Movie was pretty interesting too when it got into his time spend with the Hells Angels and his run for Sherrif in Aspen.

Buy The Ticket, Take the Ride is also very good, its more about other people's interactions with Thompson more so then just a straight life story.

I love Thompson's books, so I need to see these. I always liked Bill Murray playing Thompson in Where The Buffalo Roam more than Johnny Depp's version.

I prefer Peter Boyle to Benecio del Toro too. WTBR was just a better all around film IMO.

Totally. I like Depp, and I like Gilliam. But I've decided I never want to see another drug trip in a movie again. They rarely get it right, and it's a total cliche at this point. Requiem For a Dream did it better than most, and much like the torture scene cliche, I've had enough.

I am usually disappointed in on screen drug trips too but I must acknowledge that F&L perfectly captured the visuals of an LSD trip with pattern on the carpet of the casino. 1:18 Been trying to describe that to some of my friends for years.

 

[hooter311]

Watched Gonzo the documentary on the life of Hunter S. Thompson a few days ago. That SOB was crzay but I liked it. Movie was pretty interesting too when it got into his time spend with the Hells Angels and his run for Sherrif in Aspen.

Buy The Ticket, Take the Ride is also very good, its more about other people's interactions with Thompson more so then just a straight life story.

I love Thompson's books, so I need to see these. I always liked Bill Murray playing Thompson in Where The Buffalo Roam more than Johnny Depp's version.

I prefer Peter Boyle to Benecio del Toro too. WTBR was just a better all around film IMO.

Totally. I like Depp, and I like Gilliam. But I've decided I never want to see another drug trip in a movie again. They rarely get it right, and it's a total cliche at this point. Requiem For a Dream did it better than most, and much like the torture scene cliche, I've had enough.

Depp seemed to get all the credit for working off what Murray had already established for the on screen character. Where the Buffalo Roam may not be the best film in the world, but the two leads nail every second of it.

ETA: I can't get enough of the "drug" movies, I'm past the point in my life of consuming copious amounts, but it's nice to reflect once in a while. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be to the point where you are.

 

[Kenny Powers]

ETA: I can't get enough of the "drug" movies, I'm past the point in my life of consuming copious amounts, but it's nice to reflect once in a while. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be to the point where you are.

This. Same with gangster/mob, high school (when done right), and heist movies. I was actually just thinking today or yesterday how there are a handful of subgenres I enjoy 80% of the time or more, even if the movie is average or subpar, because it includes 1 of the aforementioned topics. I probably forgetting a couple more.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I agree but I must acknowledge that F&L perfectly captured the visuals of an LSD trip with pattern on the carpet of the casino. 1:18 Been trying to describe that to some of my friends for years.

Certianly. That pattern effect is pretty sweet. Mostly, a movie can't really recreate a drug trip very well, so I say "Why bother?"

 

[jdoggydogg]

Totally. I like Depp, and I like Gilliam. But I've decided I never want to see another drug trip in a movie again. They rarely get it right, and it's a total cliche at this point. Requiem For a Dream did it better than most, and much like the torture scene cliche, I've had enough.

Depp seemed to get all the credit for working off what Murray had already established for the on screen character. Where the Buffalo Roam may not be the best film in the world, but the two leads nail every second of it.ETA: I can't get enough of the "drug" movies, I'm past the point in my life of consuming copious amounts, but it's nice to reflect once in a while. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be to the point where you are.

I really like drug humor. Pinapple Express and Harold and Kumar Escape Guantanamo Bay were funny to me. I just get tired of movies making serious attempts at showing a drug trip. It often feels like the people making the movies never took the drug, so what the hell do they know about a trip? It's like a virgin director filming a sex scene.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I caught most of Funny People on HBO (or Showtime, or something) the other night. I really liked it and am looking forward to watching the whole thing again sometime soon.

I know this movie has gotten pretty mixed reviews. What is the consensus of opinion here on it?

Watched it again last week. I think it works better as a drama with humor mixed in than looking at it as a comedy. Hell, half of the stand up scenes arent even intended to be funny. Thought it was good, but not great, and I give it more credit because there arent very many movies like this. If you are looking at it for the humor though, I thought it was easily Sandler's funniest movie since Big Daddy.

That's how I took it too. Anybody going in thinking it's going to be Superbad will be disappointed. From the trailers I saw, I thought it seemed like Sandler's character was supposed to be more sad/serious, so maybe that's why I enjoyed it more than most seem to.

 

[KarmaPolice]

You certainly don't need to defend this thread to me. It is my primary movie resource.

I don't consider anyone a movie snob here.

What he said

Although I have to admit that while I love her taste in movies (thanks again for turning me on to Waking Life) just once I would like to see krista break off a post telling us how much she loved Weekend At Bernie's II.

 

[Musesboy]

Kill Bill Volume 1 5/5

How can I put this into words?

Just two and a half minutes into this I experience a huge surge of emotion. It's when Bang Bang starts up. It's like a trigger that reminds me what I am about to see and it almost makes me want to cry.

I relish every minute of this film. Uma Thurman was born for the role of the bride and I think she's perfect. The movie suggests extreme violence, but shows hardly any of it, just the result. The cuts are convincing and have the same effect as if you had seen the violent acts.

It took me five years to bother seeing Kill Bill because I don't embrace things with senseless violence. I expected Thurman to prance around with a samurai sword, hacking people to pieces. In fact, she pretty much does, but there's so much more to the story.

First of all, she makes me care. Her back story makes her actions seem justified. But I also feel pity for Oren Ishii when we see her childhood (brilliantly portrayed anime style).

There are so many little details that I love, even down to the way Oren removes her shoes and the water breaks the silence in the snow.

Thurman, Lucy Lui, Daryl Hannah and David Carradine have never been better.

There's a lot of Tarantino's tongue-in-cheek humor throughout the story. The dialogue is brilliantly written. The use of music massively enhances the experience.

The result is breathtaking and I come back to this more than any other movie. That said, I think Kill Bill 2 is even better because we learn more about the characters.

This may be the most entertaining movie I have ever seen. It's ranked 11th in my all-time list, but it just might be the one that makes me grin with happiness the most. It's a wonderful ride.

I know Tarantino isn't to everyone's liking, but he seems to target people like me as his audience. Kill Bill feels like it was written just to entertain me.

Ah, I could go on and on and still fail to capture what it means to me.

Don't try and label this or dismiss it because of the genre. Tarantino has a genre all his own. I couldn't recommend it more strongly.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Kill Bill Volume 1 5/5

I know Tarantino isn't to everyone's liking, but he seems to target people like me as his audience. Kill Bill feels like it was written just to entertain me.

I feel the same way about this movie.

 

[hooter311]

ETA: I can't get enough of the "drug" movies, I'm past the point in my life of consuming copious amounts, but it's nice to reflect once in a while. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be to the point where you are.

This. Same with gangster/mob, high school (when done right), and heist movies. I was actually just thinking today or yesterday how there are a handful of subgenres I enjoy 80% of the time or more, even if the movie is average or subpar, because it includes 1 of the aforementioned topics. I probably forgetting a couple more.

Are you sure you're not me?

 

[Kenny Powers]

ETA: I can't get enough of the "drug" movies, I'm past the point in my life of consuming copious amounts, but it's nice to reflect once in a while. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be to the point where you are.

This. Same with gangster/mob, high school (when done right), and heist movies. I was actually just thinking today or yesterday how there are a handful of subgenres I enjoy 80% of the time or more, even if the movie is average or subpar, because it includes 1 of the aforementioned topics. I probably forgetting a couple more.

Are you sure you're not me?

Dont think so. I did eat a lot of acid in high school though.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Tonight's flick was Rear Window.

I had seen the movie, but it's been a while. I haven't seen a ton of Hitchcock (the plan is to change that this year), but this comes off as his most complete film that I've seen of his. Great balance of humor, suspense, romance, etc.. There didn't seem to be anything that didn't have an eye for. Great dialogue and barbs between Kelly and Stewart, some fantastic shots going from apartment to apartment, and it's great the way he shows us something then cuts to Stewart's reactions.

Also impressive is the way the movie is still relevant to day. Besides the murder mystery there is an underlying comment on the prisons we contain ourselves in, and the fascination that we seem to have with everybody else's lives. Stewart avoids dealing with his live by watching everybody else live their lives in the neighborhood. Still relevant today with the onslaught of reality TV, gossip mags, and the like.

This movie is fantastic and could be exhibit A of why Hitch is one of the best directors ever.

 

[Glaven]

Kill Bill Volume 1 5/5

I know Tarantino isn't to everyone's liking, but he seems to target people like me as his audience. Kill Bill feels like it was written just to entertain me.

I feel the same way about this movie.

 

[jdoggydogg]

You certainly don't need to defend this thread to me. It is my primary movie resource.

I don't consider anyone a movie snob here.

What he said

Although I have to admit that while I love her taste in movies (thanks again for turning me on to Waking Life) just once I would like to see krista break off a post telling us how much she loved Weekend At Bernie's II.

Everyone knows that Krista prefers Weekend At Bernie's over the sequel

 

[jdoggydogg]

Kill Bill Volume 1 5/5

How can I put this into words?

Just two and a half minutes into this I experience a huge surge of emotion. It's when Bang Bang starts up. It's like a trigger that reminds me what I am about to see and it almost makes me want to cry.

I relish every minute of this film. Uma Thurman was born for the role of the bride and I think she's perfect. The movie suggests extreme violence, but shows hardly any of it, just the result. The cuts are convincing and have the same effect as if you had seen the violent acts.

It took me five years to bother seeing Kill Bill because I don't embrace things with senseless violence. I expected Thurman to prance around with a samurai sword, hacking people to pieces. In fact, she pretty much does, but there's so much more to the story.

First of all, she makes me care. Her back story makes her actions seem justified. But I also feel pity for Oren Ishii when we see her childhood (brilliantly portrayed anime style).

There are so many little details that I love, even down to the way Oren removes her shoes and the water breaks the silence in the snow.

Thurman, Lucy Lui, Daryl Hannah and David Carradine have never been better.

There's a lot of Tarantino's tongue-in-cheek humor throughout the story. The dialogue is brilliantly written. The use of music massively enhances the experience.

The result is breathtaking and I come back to this more than any other movie. That said, I think Kill Bill 2 is even better because we learn more about the characters.

This may be the most entertaining movie I have ever seen. It's ranked 11th in my all-time list, but it just might be the one that makes me grin with happiness the most. It's a wonderful ride.

I know Tarantino isn't to everyone's liking, but he seems to target people like me as his audience. Kill Bill feels like it was written just to entertain me.

Ah, I could go on and on and still fail to capture what it means to me.

Don't try and label this or dismiss it because of the genre. Tarantino has a genre all his own. I couldn't recommend it more strongly.

I've read so many negative comments about this movie, it was fun reading a very positive review.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Tonight's flick was Rear Window.

I had seen the movie, but it's been a while. I haven't seen a ton of Hitchcock (the plan is to change that this year), but this comes off as his most complete film that I've seen of his. Great balance of humor, suspense, romance, etc.. There didn't seem to be anything that didn't have an eye for. Great dialogue and barbs between Kelly and Stewart, some fantastic shots going from apartment to apartment, and it's great the way he shows us something then cuts to Stewart's reactions.

Also impressive is the way the movie is still relevant to day. Besides the murder mystery there is an underlying comment on the prisons we contain ourselves in, and the fascination that we seem to have with everybody else's lives. Stewart avoids dealing with his live by watching everybody else live their lives in the neighborhood. Still relevant today with the onslaught of reality TV, gossip mags, and the like.

This movie is fantastic and could be exhibit A of why Hitch is one of the best directors ever.

A great movie. And kind of interesting seeing it in the context of a modern world where very few truly original movies get greenlighted.

 

[fsufan]

green zone- to political for me

 

[KarmaPolice]

Tonight's flick was Rear Window.

I had seen the movie, but it's been a while. I haven't seen a ton of Hitchcock (the plan is to change that this year), but this comes off as his most complete film that I've seen of his. Great balance of humor, suspense, romance, etc.. There didn't seem to be anything that didn't have an eye for. Great dialogue and barbs between Kelly and Stewart, some fantastic shots going from apartment to apartment, and it's great the way he shows us something then cuts to Stewart's reactions.

Also impressive is the way the movie is still relevant to day. Besides the murder mystery there is an underlying comment on the prisons we contain ourselves in, and the fascination that we seem to have with everybody else's lives. Stewart avoids dealing with his live by watching everybody else live their lives in the neighborhood. Still relevant today with the onslaught of reality TV, gossip mags, and the like.

This movie is fantastic and could be exhibit A of why Hitch is one of the best directors ever.

A great movie. And kind of interesting seeing it in the context of a modern world where very few truly original movies get greenlighted.

Wasn't there a Shia LaBeouf movie that was a mild reboot of Rear Window?

ETA: ah yes - Disturbia

 

[Iraqi Information Minister]

Kill Bill Volume 1 5/5

I know Tarantino isn't to everyone's liking, but he seems to target people like me as his audience. Kill Bill feels like it was written just to entertain me.

I feel the same way about this movie.

Me too. I avoided it for a long time because I thought the violence level would be too high for me. But like Museboy said, it absolutely fits in with the movie.And the final battle in the snow is awesome, both in choreography and style.

 

[Worm]

The Invention of Lying - Wow, what a terrible, terrible movie. Just not funny at all. I may have chuckled once, and my wife didn't even finish it. .5/5

 

[Socrates11]

From Paris WIth Love.

Perhaps the worst movie I've seen in years.

Watched this last night. While not the worst movie I've seen in years it's up there for perhaps the most disappointing. Seems like it could have been a whole lot better if they didn't try to go over the top on every little friggin' scene and put a leash on Travolta. A decent diversion, but lacking.

 

[kupcho1]

watched one last night on ifc....

24 Hour Party People

I read a couple of solid positive reviews about this one so I had queued it up on the netflix. However, after ready about it a bit more, I wasn't sure how badly I wanted to see it so I killed it. Well, I saw it was on last night and said wth, and gave it a whirl. Not quite sure what to say about this one, as it was a kind of choppy in and out all over the place semi-documentary. It kept my interest pretty much, as the time/place/musical scene had me mildly interested, I guess I thought it was going to be more of a story of Joy Division (which would probably interest me more) instead of a story about Tony Wilson - even though he says in the movie the piece is not about him, well, it is mostly about him. It was okay I suppose, but I guess I couldn't get if it was meant to be a comedy (it wasn't particularly funny at all), a documentary (bits and pieces of truth with bits and pieces of fiction), or what. All in all it was not overwhelming, but I don't feel worse for wear after viewing. Let's rank it a 1.5/5.0.

I'd say that's a tad underrated.

Fantastic movie. Coogan's great. The musical history was fantastic. I'd go 4.5/5

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

 

[hooter311]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

There is just no way I could connect with the couple both being sane, open minded, and critical thinkers. Nobody is as perfect as these two characters were.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Tonight's flick was Rear Window.

I had seen the movie, but it's been a while. I haven't seen a ton of Hitchcock (the plan is to change that this year), but this comes off as his most complete film that I've seen of his. Great balance of humor, suspense, romance, etc.. There didn't seem to be anything that didn't have an eye for. Great dialogue and barbs between Kelly and Stewart, some fantastic shots going from apartment to apartment, and it's great the way he shows us something then cuts to Stewart's reactions.

Also impressive is the way the movie is still relevant to day. Besides the murder mystery there is an underlying comment on the prisons we contain ourselves in, and the fascination that we seem to have with everybody else's lives. Stewart avoids dealing with his live by watching everybody else live their lives in the neighborhood. Still relevant today with the onslaught of reality TV, gossip mags, and the like.

This movie is fantastic and could be exhibit A of why Hitch is one of the best directors ever.

A great movie. And kind of interesting seeing it in the context of a modern world where very few truly original movies get greenlighted.

Wasn't there a Shia LaBeouf movie that was a mild reboot of Rear Window?

ETA: ah yes - Disturbia

I love that one of the biggest hits of the summer is Inception. Maybe this'll help Hollywood remember that original stories are always better than reboots.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

There is just no way I could connect with the couple both being sane, open minded, and critical thinkers. Nobody is as perfect as these two characters were.

And I thought they were supposed to be poor yet theyre traveling all over North America. I liked the movie enough, but the supporting cast deserves most of the credit for that.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Wasn't there a Shia LaBeouf movie that was a mild reboot of Rear Window?ETA: ah yes - Disturbia

I love that one of the biggest hits of the summer is Inception. Maybe this'll help Hollywood remember that original stories are always better than reboots.

Agreed, but I thought Disturbia was pretty good for what it was. Not many summer blockbusters are as good as it, or at least thats the case the last few summers since it has come out.

 

[hooter311]

Wasn't there a Shia LaBeouf movie that was a mild reboot of Rear Window?ETA: ah yes - Disturbia

I love that one of the biggest hits of the summer is Inception. Maybe this'll help Hollywood remember that original stories are always better than reboots.

Agreed, but I thought Disturbia was pretty good for what it was. Not many summer blockbusters are as good as it, or at least thats the case the last few summers since it has come out.

Disturbia was a great popcorn flick, can't really call Rear Window that. I have no problem with remakes based on concepts, as long as they at least present a somewhat different storyline.Remakes that try to recreate the first movie in its entirety are what really bother me. See Psycho, Stepford Wives, and Swept Away.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Wasn't there a Shia LaBeouf movie that was a mild reboot of Rear Window?ETA: ah yes - Disturbia

I love that one of the biggest hits of the summer is Inception. Maybe this'll help Hollywood remember that original stories are always better than reboots.

Agreed, but I thought Disturbia was pretty good for what it was. Not many summer blockbusters are as good as it, or at least thats the case the last few summers since it has come out.

Disturbia was a great popcorn flick, can't really call Rear Window that. I have no problem with remakes based on concepts, as long as they at least present a somewhat different storyline.Remakes that try to recreate the first movie in its entirety are what really bother me. See Psycho, Stepford Wives, and Swept Away.

I haven't seen Disturbia, so I can't comment. I'm just tired of re-hashed ideas.

 

[hooter311]

I haven't seen Disturbia, so I can't comment. I'm just tired of re-hashed ideas.

But let's at least be thankful for these:ScarfaceThe ThingDirty Rotten ScoundrelsOcean's 11Evil Dead 2The track record is definitely a lot worse, but there is potential out there left to be found.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I haven't seen Disturbia, so I can't comment. I'm just tired of re-hashed ideas.

But let's at least be thankful for these:ScarfaceThe ThingDirty Rotten ScoundrelsOcean's 11Evil Dead 2The track record is definitely a lot worse, but there is potential out there left to be found.

I don't like Oceans 11, but I get your point. We could come up with a fairly impressive list of good movies in this group. Problem is, picking out isolated successes doesn't negate the fact that Hollywood is cranking out a ton of these reboots at a rate we've never seen before.

 

[hooter311]

I haven't seen Disturbia, so I can't comment. I'm just tired of re-hashed ideas.

But let's at least be thankful for these:ScarfaceThe ThingDirty Rotten ScoundrelsOcean's 11Evil Dead 2The track record is definitely a lot worse, but there is potential out there left to be found.

I don't like Oceans 11, but I get your point. We could come up with a fairly impressive list of good movies in this group. Problem is, picking out isolated successes doesn't negate the fact that Hollywood is cranking out a ton of these reboots at a rate we've never seen before.

But according to Back to the Future II we still need 14 more Jaws films in the next 5 years!!!!

 

[jdoggydogg]

I haven't seen Disturbia, so I can't comment. I'm just tired of re-hashed ideas.

But let's at least be thankful for these:Scarface

The Thing

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Ocean's 11

Evil Dead 2

The track record is definitely a lot worse, but there is potential out there left to be found.

I don't like Oceans 11, but I get your point. We could come up with a fairly impressive list of good movies in this group. Problem is, picking out isolated successes doesn't negate the fact that Hollywood is cranking out a ton of these reboots at a rate we've never seen before.

But according to Back to the Future II we still need 14 more Jaws films in the next 5 years!!!!

Star Trek XII - So Very Tired

 

[hooter311]

I just wiki'd Ocean's Eleven because I was going to see if I was the only one who thought that there was a giant hole of logic missing in the end heist, I can't remember specifically without watching it again, but something never made sense to me.

This was pretty interesting though:

In the beginning of the film, when they begin to work on the plan for the casino heist, Rusty (Pitt) says to Danny (Clooney),

Off the top of my head, I'd say you're looking at a Boesky, a Jim Brown, a Miss Daisy, two Jethros and a Leon Spinks, not to mention the biggest Ella Fitzgerald...ever.

This list of cons was created by director Steven Soderbergh and screenwriter Ted Griffin to describe the type of people and cons needed to knock over the three casinos.[4]

* Boesky - Saul playing Lyman Zerga. This is a reference to Ivan Boesky, a big-time trader on Wall Street who got caught committing securities fraud. The con is about a wealthy bankroller who has insider information.

* Jim Brown - the confrontation between Frank Catton and Linus Caldwell, staged to distract Terry Benedict so that Linus can lift the security codes to the vault. Named for the famous American football player Jim Brown.

* Miss Daisy - the SWAT vehicle used as the getaway car. From the film title Driving Miss Daisy.

* Two Jethros - "Hillbilly gear-head types" (in this case the Malloy brothers) having a confrontation on the casino floor, during which balloons are used to cover a security camera and distract casino security, allowing Livingston Dell to sneak into the security offices.

* Leon Spinks - the disruption of the boxing match. This refers to the surprise victory of Leon Spinks over Muhammad Ali.

* Ella Fitzgerald - the looped tape of the robbery that is played over Benedict's security system. A reference to a 1970s commercial for Memorex, in which a recording of Ella Fitzgerald's voice breaks a glass and the question is posed to the viewer: "Is it live or is it Memorex?"

 

[videoguy505]

there was a giant hole of logic missing in the end heist

There is something about the duffel bags full of porno fliers that doesn't add up IIRC.Edit:

Where do the flyers come from that are in the bags that are carried out of the vault and into the van? Danny and Linus couldn't have taken them down there and there is no room with the Chinese man. They are carried out to the van before the SWAT team appears, which means they'd have to have been in the vault to start with? In the commentary by Steven Soderbergh he acknowledges that there's no explanation.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Remakes that try to recreate the first movie in its entirety are what really bother me. See Psycho, Stepford Wives, and Swept Away.

I actually liked the Psycho remake, although I still dont think Ive ever seen the entire original, and I like Vince Vaughn a lot - but even outside of him the cast was stellar - Anne Heche, Julianne Moore, Viggo, William H Macy, Robert Forster, Philip Baker Hall, James Remar. I think Van Sant's movies are hit or miss for the most part for me, but the direction always seems to be very good.But yes, exact remakes typically suck....never saw Stepford Wives original, but the remake blew. Never even heard of Swept Away (looking now, I guess Guy Ritchie just made it so he could rail Madonna)

 

[hooter311]

there was a giant hole of logic missing in the end heist

There is something about the duffel bags full of porno fliers that doesn't add up IIRC.Edit:

Where do the flyers come from that are in the bags that are carried out of the vault and into the van? Danny and Linus couldn't have taken them down there and there is no room with the Chinese man. They are carried out to the van before the SWAT team appears, which means they'd have to have been in the vault to start with? In the commentary by Steven Soderbergh he acknowledges that there's no explanation.

Thanks, it was bothering me and now I can watch something else tonight.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

I really liked the movie.

I've been wanting to ask a couple of you for awhile now - WTF is with the decimals in the rankings? Do you actually have a breakdown of ratings, or are you pulling it out of your ###? What would've made the movie a 6.4?

I was thinking about my ratings system and how/why I rank things the way I do. The most I can do is 3.5/5 or 7/10, but rating movies is hard for me for whatever reason. I was going to start another thread, but I'll ask everybody here. It probably has been discussed, but what is your rating system, what are you looking for, are they genre-specific, etc...

 

[KarmaPolice]

there was a giant hole of logic missing in the end heist

There is something about the duffel bags full of porno fliers that doesn't add up IIRC.

Edit:

Where do the flyers come from that are in the bags that are carried out of the vault and into the van? Danny and Linus couldn't have taken them down there and there is no room with the Chinese man. They are carried out to the van before the SWAT team appears, which means they'd have to have been in the vault to start with? In the commentary by Steven Soderbergh he acknowledges that there's no explanation.

Never really thought about how they got in there. Now it's going to bug me if I watch it again.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

I really liked the movie.

I've been wanting to ask a couple of you for awhile now - WTF is with the decimals in the rankings? Do you actually have a breakdown of ratings, or are you pulling it out of your ###? What would've made the movie a 6.4?

I was thinking about my ratings system and how/why I rank things the way I do. The most I can do is 3.5/5 or 7/10, but rating movies is hard for me for whatever reason. I was going to start another thread, but I'll ask everybody here. It probably has been discussed, but what is your rating system, what are you looking for, are they genre-specific, etc...

I'm pulling these ratings out of my ###. I can change the 5.9/10 to 59/100 if you like. Maybe offdee can come in and give us a nice rating system.

 

[hooter311]

Remakes that try to recreate the first movie in its entirety are what really bother me. See Psycho, Stepford Wives, and Swept Away.

I actually liked the Psycho remake, although I still dont think Ive ever seen the entire original, and I like Vince Vaughn a lot - but even outside of him the cast was stellar - Anne Heche, Julianne Moore, Viggo, William H Macy, Robert Forster, Philip Baker Hall, James Remar. I think Van Sant's movies are hit or miss for the most part for me, but the direction always seems to be very good.But yes, exact remakes typically suck....never saw Stepford Wives original, but the remake blew. Never even heard of Swept Away (looking now, I guess Guy Ritchie just made it so he could rail Madonna)

If have never seen the entire original, I wouldn't doubt you enjoyed Psycho, but it's literally a scene for scene remake, even the camera angles are the same. Nothing original at all. Normally a fan of Van Sant's, but he makes some weird stuff most of the time.

 

[Chaka]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

I really liked the movie.

I've been wanting to ask a couple of you for awhile now - WTF is with the decimals in the rankings? Do you actually have a breakdown of ratings, or are you pulling it out of your ###? What would've made the movie a 6.4?

I was thinking about my ratings system and how/why I rank things the way I do. The most I can do is 3.5/5 or 7/10, but rating movies is hard for me for whatever reason. I was going to start another thread, but I'll ask everybody here. It probably has been discussed, but what is your rating system, what are you looking for, are they genre-specific, etc...

I don't do rankings because I can't come up with a legitimate way to objectively compare movies. Too much depends on subjective factors and everything is influenced by my state of mind.I'll stick with giving explanations of what I think about movies and leave it at that. I don't think attaching a 5 or 10 or 2^5 star ranking to my write up should influence an opinion.

Now when it comes to something like IMDB I rely on their rankings more because they are averages of hundreds, thousands and even tens of thousands of opinions. It's easier to establish a general feeling about a film with a large consensus.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I saw Away we go the other day and I didn't really like it. I enjoy Sam Mendes movies but this one was a swing and a miss for me. Both main characters were annoying, the "funny" parts weren't funny and by the time they got to Montreal I just wanted the movie to be done. But I'm a black guy in my 20's so maybe this movie wasn't intended for me.

5.9/10

I really liked the movie.

I've been wanting to ask a couple of you for awhile now - WTF is with the decimals in the rankings? Do you actually have a breakdown of ratings, or are you pulling it out of your ###? What would've made the movie a 6.4?

I was thinking about my ratings system and how/why I rank things the way I do. The most I can do is 3.5/5 or 7/10, but rating movies is hard for me for whatever reason. I was going to start another thread, but I'll ask everybody here. It probably has been discussed, but what is your rating system, what are you looking for, are they genre-specific, etc...

I don't do rankings because I can't come up with a legitimate way to objectively compare movies. Too much depends on subjective factors and everything is influenced by my state of mind.I'll stick with giving explanations of what I think about movies and leave it at that. I don't think attaching a 5 or 10 or 2^5 star ranking to my write up should influence an opinion.

Now when it comes to something like IMDB I rely on their rankings more because they are averages of hundreds, thousands and even tens of thousands of opinions. It's easier to establish a general feeling about a film with a large consensus.

That's where I was. For whatever reason, I keep thinking I need some sort of ratings for ####s and giggles, but am still tweaking it. My one rule is I try not to rate a movie that's 1/2 way decent on the first viewing, but I think anything that's below 5/10 would be something I wouldn't watch a second time.