Looks like her O faceGreat flick. Lots of great lines but I love Sigourney at the 0:14 mark might be my favorite moment ("Well screw that" my eye).Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
Same here. Seem hard for a modern movie to be sincerely earnest - and this movie does it.Love this.Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
She's very funny. It never occurred to me that Lt. Uhuru's only purpose was repeating what she heard on the communicator until I watched Galaxy Quest.Great flick. Lots of great lines but I love Sigourney at the 0:14 mark might be my favorite moment ("Well screw that" my eye).Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
Who knew Sigourney was that stacked and smokin'!?And is it wrong that I'm turned on by the alien chick?Great flick. Lots of great lines but I love Sigourney at the 0:14 mark might be my favorite moment ("Well screw that" my eye).Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
I love how she is the only one who can talk to the ship's computer. And she was easy on the eyes in that film too. I never really considered her very attractive but in GQ she was smoking. The make-up artist deserved an Oscar.She's very funny. It never occurred to me that Lt. Uhuru's only purpose was repeating what she heard on the communicator until I watched Galaxy Quest.Great flick. Lots of great lines but I love Sigourney at the 0:14 mark might be my favorite moment ("Well screw that" my eye).Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
Someone that smart's innately attractive to me.I love how she is the only one who can talk to the ship's computer. And she was easy on the eyes in that film too. I never really considered her very attractive but in GQ she was smoking. The make-up artist deserved an Oscar.She's very funny. It never occurred to me that Lt. Uhuru's only purpose was repeating what she heard on the communicator until I watched Galaxy Quest.Great flick. Lots of great lines but I love Sigourney at the 0:14 mark might be my favorite moment ("Well screw that" my eye).Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
Dont get this argument. There was character development until essentially the last 15 minutes. Why was the ending bad?? I pretty much knew before I even started the movie, that the brothers would be fighting each other.'TexanFan02 said:Watched Warrior. I liked it, 3.75 out of 5. -.75 for even attempting character development, doing it haphazardly and basically abandoning it halfway in. -.5 for the ending. Which kind of ties into character development and fight progression. Kind of sloppy.
But, it was a good action flick, and I'm sure MMA fans will like it. I liked it too.
Speaking of remakes that didn't work - I thought Rec and Rec2 were far better than these movies.'The Doctor said:Quarantine 2: Terminal: pretty much the same as the first but not as gooda little eye candy but not enoughid give it a 2.5/5
Rocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
I dont really know how to answer this. If there wasnt "character development" in the last 30 minutes or so of the movie, there were family struggles that were answered.You pretty much answered you own question in the spoiler. I saw Tommy's run to the finals being based on his rage and pure physicality, not his background. As far as his fighting/strategy vs his brother, again, you answered your own question and not only did I think it was apparent in the movie, but I thought it was a fitting ending.'TexanFan02 said:No there wasn't. Being mad at the world for vaguely undefined reasons isn't character development. As for the ending:Dont get this argument. There was character development until essentially the last 15 minutes.'TexanFan02 said:Watched Warrior. I liked it, 3.75 out of 5. -.75 for even attempting character development, doing it haphazardly and basically abandoning it halfway in. -.5 for the ending. Which kind of ties into character development and fight progression. Kind of sloppy.
But, it was a good action flick, and I'm sure MMA fans will like it. I liked it too.
Why was the ending bad?? I pretty much knew before I even started the movie, that the brothers would be fighting each other.Wasn't Tommy the one that won 1400 wrestling matches? But in the tournament he's just a striker, while his brother is the submission specialist. And in the final fight, Tommy isn't even really a striker, he just sucks and gets taken down. Was it on purpose because he really loves his brother? Who the #### knows. If it was, why fight with a dislocated shoulder, just to show how mad you are? C'mon.
Not really. Never got into Stallone films for the most part, so I couldn't really comment about what he morphed into. Probably more to do with me not getting into sports movies in general, and now seeing a lot of the cheesy cliches that this series probably had a big hand in creating. As I stated in my first Rocky post, I just didn't like the characters - a lot of that had to do with the writing and them being in similar situations in every movie. I think Apollo was the best character, and I could have used more of him in 2 and 3, but even he meets his demise because he didn't learn a thing from the first movie. Combine all that will really bad boxing matches (was there even one attempt to block a punch in the whole series?) and I was done.Rocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
That was explained on the beach and during the event. His dad and his brother left. He never got over it. And he felt guilty for living when the rest of his unit was killed and then going AWOL. Plus, a lot of children of drunk abusive parents end up with huge chips on their shoulders. I'm not sure they could have explained it any more clearly than they did.'TexanFan02 said:No there wasn't. Being mad at the world for vaguely undefined reasons isn't character development. As for the ending:Dont get this argument. There was character development until essentially the last 15 minutes.'TexanFan02 said:Watched Warrior. I liked it, 3.75 out of 5. -.75 for even attempting character development, doing it haphazardly and basically abandoning it halfway in. -.5 for the ending. Which kind of ties into character development and fight progression. Kind of sloppy.
But, it was a good action flick, and I'm sure MMA fans will like it. I liked it too.
Why was the ending bad?? I pretty much knew before I even started the movie, that the brothers would be fighting each other.Wasn't Tommy the one that won 1400 wrestling matches? But in the tournament he's just a striker, while his brother is the submission specialist. And in the final fight, Tommy isn't even really a striker, he just sucks and gets taken down. Was it on purpose because he really loves his brother? Who the #### knows. If it was, why fight with a dislocated shoulder, just to show how mad you are? C'mon.
I can't remember most of this movie, but I do remember liking it a lot.Half Nelson - Gosling is my other current man-crush going right now (JGL being the other) and he doesn't disappoint in Half Nelson. It's not a great film but it is a good one. I like the way the story developed and the haphazard way in which things spiraled for the main character. I also thought Shakeera Epps was really good and her character arc was touching and troubling throughout. I liked the ending but I can see that viewing it through a different lens it could be thought to have disturbing implications. I just didn't see it that way.
Good film, worth watching.
'TexanFan02 said:'TexanFan02 said:No there wasn't. Being mad at the world for vaguely undefined reasons isn't character development. As for the ending:Dont get this argument. There was character development until essentially the last 15 minutes.'TexanFan02 said:Watched Warrior. I liked it, 3.75 out of 5. -.75 for even attempting character development, doing it haphazardly and basically abandoning it halfway in. -.5 for the ending. Which kind of ties into character development and fight progression. Kind of sloppy.
But, it was a good action flick, and I'm sure MMA fans will like it. I liked it too.
Why was the ending bad?? I pretty much knew before I even started the movie, that the brothers would be fighting each other.Wasn't Tommy the one that won 1400 wrestling matches? But in the tournament he's just a striker, while his brother is the submission specialist. And in the final fight, Tommy isn't even really a striker, he just sucks and gets taken down. Was it on purpose because he really loves his brother? Who the #### knows. If it was, why fight with a dislocated shoulder, just to show how mad you are? C'mon.
'TexanFan02 said:'TexanFan02 said:No there wasn't. Being mad at the world for vaguely undefined reasons isn't character development. As for the ending:Dont get this argument. There was character development until essentially the last 15 minutes.'TexanFan02 said:Watched Warrior. I liked it, 3.75 out of 5. -.75 for even attempting character development, doing it haphazardly and basically abandoning it halfway in. -.5 for the ending. Which kind of ties into character development and fight progression. Kind of sloppy.
But, it was a good action flick, and I'm sure MMA fans will like it. I liked it too.
Why was the ending bad?? I pretty much knew before I even started the movie, that the brothers would be fighting each other.Wasn't Tommy the one that won 1400 wrestling matches? But in the tournament he's just a striker, while his brother is the submission specialist. And in the final fight, Tommy isn't even really a striker, he just sucks and gets taken down. Was it on purpose because he really loves his brother? Who the #### knows. If it was, why fight with a dislocated shoulder, just to show how mad you are? C'mon.
The actress that played the Mother was tremendous in this. Bin Won is the actor that played the role of the son, he's the star of The Man From Nowhere, a solid action/revenge flick that's also on Netflix streaming.Really enjoyed this film. I didn't find the son distracting, he was mentally handicapped it seemed natural for the character to me.I am surprised it did not get a best foreign film nomination but I only saw A Prophet and The Secret in Their Eyes which were both excellent so perhaps the other three nominees were also on par with Mother, in which case I should queue them up immediately.Mother:
Great movie with a great performance from the lead actress. A Korean film about a mother taking it upon herself to investigate a murder that her son has been arrested for. The police are no help because it is an open and shut case for them. Won't go much into detail, except to say that this one is a recommend watch. The one weak part of the movie for me was the son, and was finding him really distracting throughout the movie. 8/10.
Another great Mann film. The Miami Vice vibe is evident but it's still extremely well done. Far superior to the Norton remake in my opinion. I also think Collateral is an outstanding film. Fox and Cruise are both terrific and Mann does his typical stellar job of directing.I dig. What about Manhunter?Why? Collateral was really ####ing good, my 3rd favorite Mann film after Heat and Last of the Mohicans.I can't believe I'm saying this, but Mann's Collateral is a better movie all around.I'm a huge Michael Mann fan and I thought it was terrible. Even if it didn't pale in comparison to the TV show (which I believe it did) I still thought it would've been a boring movie. Looked great as all Mann films do but poor casting, weak story (especially if you've seen the TV show and saw the far superior Season 1 episode) and just a complete waste of time.Didn't like the Miami Vice movie at all, and I'd call myself a Michael Mann fan.Cars, crime, revenge, a forbidden relationship. You see the two movies were virtually the same... it's just the 80s soundtrack in Miami Vice actually made sense.I have no idea why you would compare Miami Vice to Drive.Watching Miami Vice.
So far it's awesome. Way better than Drive... well for me at least.
I'm starting to consider attempting to pull off Sony's haircut in this movie.
I've only seen Collateral once, and I liked it enough to watch it again some time.Another great Mann film. The Miami Vice vibe is evident but it's still extremely well done. Far superior to the Norton remake in my opinion. I also think Collateral is an outstanding film. Fox and Cruise are both terrific and Mann does his typical stellar job of directing.I dig. What about Manhunter?Why? Collateral was really ####ing good, my 3rd favorite Mann film after Heat and Last of the Mohicans.I can't believe I'm saying this, but Mann's Collateral is a better movie all around.I'm a huge Michael Mann fan and I thought it was terrible. Even if it didn't pale in comparison to the TV show (which I believe it did) I still thought it would've been a boring movie. Looked great as all Mann films do but poor casting, weak story (especially if you've seen the TV show and saw the far superior Season 1 episode) and just a complete waste of time.Didn't like the Miami Vice movie at all, and I'd call myself a Michael Mann fan.Cars, crime, revenge, a forbidden relationship. You see the two movies were virtually the same... it's just the 80s soundtrack in Miami Vice actually made sense.I have no idea why you would compare Miami Vice to Drive.Watching Miami Vice.
So far it's awesome. Way better than Drive... well for me at least.
I'm starting to consider attempting to pull off Sony's haircut in this movie.
My favorite of them all just for that reason.. Lots ofRocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
action, and throw in the match with Hulk Hogan and it is one of my all time favorite
Movies. It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.
I just can't stand the stupid documentary style camera work. And cool it with the light flares for cripes sake. I watched this again the other night and the camera moves around so much in a scene it makes it feel more frenetic than necessary.Finally caught Star Trek J.J.Abrams style last night. Disclaimer - I love the Star Trek franchise, though never wore a costume or went to a convention - that's just weird.
I had to quickly accept the reboot was changing a lot of what I knew. I got over that pretty quick. I think the people they had playing the various roles - except for Chekov who was annoyingly bad - did a fine job. I get why Leonard Nimoy was in it, but I really hate that as much as I hated the Star Trek Generations way they put Kirk in it. Anyone watching these movies with an ounce of love for the preious installments knows the original characters - they don't have to keep showing up to make the new ones more legitimate.
The space time change was necessary to make the reboot work I guess. I can go along with it. I just hope that in doing it they really don't go near any of the original movies at all. if the next movie is their version of Khan in this new universe I will not be happy. Just ignore the rest of the timeline from this point and make up your own. The effects were very good and I was entertained. It was, in the end, a better movie than most of the TNG movies that all felt to me like just extended television episodes.
I'll give it a B+. Bones was outstanding as was Scotty. They nailed those roles.
maybe not so much hollywood but the notion of celebrity and privilege really. i think her bio-pic of marie antoinette kind of explores it in a historical context. i haven't seen it in years (and didn't much care for it as an adaptation of a really fine novel) but "the virgin suicides" could be seen as brushing against it too.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.
Hmmm. I didn't get that at all. When I think of camera work like that I think of the Bourne movies. Good movies but that camera work drove me insane. Didn't get that same feeling here.I just can't stand the stupid documentary style camera work. And cool it with the light flares for cripes sake. I watched this again the other night and the camera moves around so much in a scene it makes it feel more frenetic than necessary.Finally caught Star Trek J.J.Abrams style last night. Disclaimer - I love the Star Trek franchise, though never wore a costume or went to a convention - that's just weird.
I had to quickly accept the reboot was changing a lot of what I knew. I got over that pretty quick. I think the people they had playing the various roles - except for Chekov who was annoyingly bad - did a fine job. I get why Leonard Nimoy was in it, but I really hate that as much as I hated the Star Trek Generations way they put Kirk in it. Anyone watching these movies with an ounce of love for the preious installments knows the original characters - they don't have to keep showing up to make the new ones more legitimate.
The space time change was necessary to make the reboot work I guess. I can go along with it. I just hope that in doing it they really don't go near any of the original movies at all. if the next movie is their version of Khan in this new universe I will not be happy. Just ignore the rest of the timeline from this point and make up your own. The effects were very good and I was entertained. It was, in the end, a better movie than most of the TNG movies that all felt to me like just extended television episodes.
I'll give it a B+. Bones was outstanding as was Scotty. They nailed those roles.
There is no reason they could not plausibly work Khan into the reboot. The Eugenics Wars occurred, and Khan's people shot themselves into space, long before Kirk was born so they would still exist in the reboot universe.Finally caught Star Trek J.J.Abrams style last night. Disclaimer - I love the Star Trek franchise, though never wore a costume or went to a convention - that's just weird.
I had to quickly accept the reboot was changing a lot of what I knew. I got over that pretty quick. I think the people they had playing the various roles - except for Chekov who was annoyingly bad - did a fine job. I get why Leonard Nimoy was in it, but I really hate that as much as I hated the Star Trek Generations way they put Kirk in it. Anyone watching these movies with an ounce of love for the preious installments knows the original characters - they don't have to keep showing up to make the new ones more legitimate.
The space time change was necessary to make the reboot work I guess. I can go along with it. I just hope that in doing it they really don't go near any of the original movies at all. if the next movie is their version of Khan in this new universe I will not be happy. Just ignore the rest of the timeline from this point and make up your own. The effects were very good and I was entertained. It was, in the end, a better movie than most of the TNG movies that all felt to me like just extended television episodes.
I'll give it a B+. Bones was outstanding as was Scotty. They nailed those roles.
Rocky 4 is a 5 star film if there ever was one. Works beautifully as a Cold War metaphor, robot and all. This was propaganda at its absolute finest.Rocky 5 and arguably Rocky 2 are the only ones that suck.Rocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
'El Floppo said:Love this.'jdoggydogg said:Galaxy Quest
Decided to re-watch this one. Fun family movie, especially since we've been watching the original Star Trek series these days.
I thought it was often heavy-handed and amateurish. The scene of him driving around in circles. I get it; he's going nowhere. The endless scenes of him literally sitting in the apartment doing nothing? He must be all empty inside. I think there was about 30 minutes of good material in the film which was entirely the stuff with him and his daughter. Everything else just felt like filler. Although I did chuckle at the hanger-on buddy who's so clearly a pedophile and was all over Elle Fanning.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.
None of that is exactly subtext while watching the film, it's all painfully obvious. Stallone isn't exactly Kafka when it comes to the use of metaphor. Forgetting the painful metaphors of IV there is pretty much zero difference between III & IV except Mr. T >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolph Lundgren. And thank God we don't have to endure a ham handed Stallone speech at the end of III either.Rocky 4 is a 5 star film if there ever was one. Works beautifully as a Cold War metaphor, robot and all. This was propaganda at its absolute finest.Rocky 5 and arguably Rocky 2 are the only ones that suck.Rocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
ETA:
From IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/...e/tt0089927/faq
A more symbolic explanation of how Rocky defeats Drago despite Drago's seemingly overwhelming strength advantage is tied up in the theme of the film. Rocky IV is largely a metaphor for the tensions between America and Russia which existed in the Cold War. Stallone himself has stated (in the famous Ain't It Cool public Q & A; see here) that the film isn't one to be viewed entirely literally, that is not exclusively about revenge or boxing, but rather an examination of the opposing sides in the war. The seemingly invincible Ivan Drago obviously symbolizes the Soviet Union, and his line "I must break you", perfectly represents his nation's sentiment toward America (or at least America's notion of the Soviets' intention towards them). During the fight Drago is far superior to Rocky in terms of firepower and strength, just as the Soviet Union was over America. However, Rocky's seemingly endless stamina and inability to lose is an obvious symbol for American national pride and heart, and the nation's unwillingness to be bullied or intimidated by a superior force. Rocky defeats the superior fighter because he has more heart; an obvious metaphor for the possible outcome of the War. In addition, Stallone has suggested that he intended the film as a message to the Russian people that there is more to life than military might, and that there could be a magnanimous solution to the tensions behind the Cold War. This is represented by the fact that not only do the initially hostile crowd begin to cheer for Rocky, but even Drago himself comes to respect him by the end of the fight. All of this depends upon a symbolic reading of the film, where the fight between Drago and Rocky is not so much a depiction of a real conflict which the audience is supposed to take literally, but a metaphorical examination of a real situation in the world at large.
The first one and the newest one are his best. The others range from okay to downright terrible. If you haven't seen Rocky Balboa don't let the others scare you away.Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
Yeah, the movie isn't really hiding the fact that it's a propaganda movie. Stallone might as well have said "Communism's bad, mmmkay" at the end.None of that is exactly subtext while watching the film, it's all painfully obvious. Stallone isn't exactly Kafka when it comes to the use of metaphor. Forgetting the painful metaphors of IV there is pretty much zero difference between III & IV except Mr. T >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dolph Lundgren. And thank God we don't have to endure a ham handed Stallone speech at the end of III either.Rocky 4 is a 5 star film if there ever was one. Works beautifully as a Cold War metaphor, robot and all. This was propaganda at its absolute finest.Rocky 5 and arguably Rocky 2 are the only ones that suck.Rocky is a tremendous film from top to bottom and is worthy of all the praise it receives. Rocky II is a solid film but certainly has flaws. Rocky III is hysterically awesome, you can't take it seriously but it's just fun. The others are pretty much garbage.I am curious if some of your dislike stems from the fact that you never really sat down with them years ago when they were fresh and perhaps you are a little jaded sitting down with them now by what Stallone morphed into during his career. Possible?Rocky 2, 3, and 4:
Sweet Jesus did these movies terrible in a big hurry. Didn't love the first one, but thought it was good enough. Basically 1/2 theses movies are recaps and silly music video training montages, 1/4 over the top (pun intended) cheesy boxing matches, and 1/4 following characters that seemingly are incapable of learning a thing. Felt like it was a slow decent until Rocky 4 jumped the shark completely (a damn robot?). Won't be going on anymore in the series, and was surprised I got this far. Mostly I was curious how much of them I had actually seen before.
ETA:
From IMDB
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A more symbolic explanation of how Rocky defeats Drago despite Drago's seemingly overwhelming strength advantage is tied up in the theme of the film. Rocky IV is largely a metaphor for the tensions between America and Russia which existed in the Cold War. Stallone himself has stated (in the famous Ain't It Cool public Q & A; see here) that the film isn't one to be viewed entirely literally, that is not exclusively about revenge or boxing, but rather an examination of the opposing sides in the war. The seemingly invincible Ivan Drago obviously symbolizes the Soviet Union, and his line "I must break you", perfectly represents his nation's sentiment toward America (or at least America's notion of the Soviets' intention towards them). During the fight Drago is far superior to Rocky in terms of firepower and strength, just as the Soviet Union was over America. However, Rocky's seemingly endless stamina and inability to lose is an obvious symbol for American national pride and heart, and the nation's unwillingness to be bullied or intimidated by a superior force. Rocky defeats the superior fighter because he has more heart; an obvious metaphor for the possible outcome of the War. In addition, Stallone has suggested that he intended the film as a message to the Russian people that there is more to life than military might, and that there could be a magnanimous solution to the tensions behind the Cold War. This is represented by the fact that not only do the initially hostile crowd begin to cheer for Rocky, but even Drago himself comes to respect him by the end of the fight. All of this depends upon a symbolic reading of the film, where the fight between Drago and Rocky is not so much a depiction of a real conflict which the audience is supposed to take literally, but a metaphorical examination of a real situation in the world at large.
All that stuff you're referring to as filler was what built the character. You might not have liked it and were looking for more action, but that's not what this was about. It's about a guy who has nothing going on intellectually or creatively and literally just drives around because he is so barren that it's all he can think to do. I don't think it's necessarily anything more or less. That was all necessary to put you there. It's a character study, not really a conventional linear story. And I didn't interpret Chris Pontious as a pedophile at all. Just a pretty funny knucklehead friend. Seemed good-hearted to me.I thought it was often heavy-handed and amateurish. The scene of him driving around in circles. I get it; he's going nowhere. The endless scenes of him literally sitting in the apartment doing nothing? He must be all empty inside. I think there was about 30 minutes of good material in the film which was entirely the stuff with him and his daughter. Everything else just felt like filler. Although I did chuckle at the hanger-on buddy who's so clearly a pedophile and was all over Elle Fanning.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.
He seemed awfully chummy with the daughter. Just struck me as funny.All that stuff you're referring to as filler was what built the character. You might not have liked it and were looking for more action, but that's not what this was about. It's about a guy who has nothing going on intellectually or creatively and literally just drives around because he is so barren that it's all he can think to do. I don't think it's necessarily anything more or less. That was all necessary to put you there. It's a character study, not really a conventional linear story. And I didn't interpret Chris Pontious as a pedophile at all. Just a pretty funny knucklehead friend. Seemed good-hearted to me.I thought it was often heavy-handed and amateurish. The scene of him driving around in circles. I get it; he's going nowhere. The endless scenes of him literally sitting in the apartment doing nothing? He must be all empty inside. I think there was about 30 minutes of good material in the film which was entirely the stuff with him and his daughter. Everything else just felt like filler. Although I did chuckle at the hanger-on buddy who's so clearly a pedophile and was all over Elle Fanning.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.
I agree the filler stuff was about developing the character but I just felt like it was often heavy handed. It's not so much that I wanted more action; I just wanted something more interesting to watch. Like I said, the father-daughter scenes were well done. There was a lot of meat there. But the rest of the film lacked substance for me. I felt like Coppola was just too heavy-handed with what she was doing. I think she had the germ of an idea for a film but not enough material to really make it work.Fair enough. I imagine I'm not the only person who found those elements essential to the character and the film, nor are you the only person who found it lacking substance, heavy-handed, and boring. And everybody who saw it likely falls into one camp or the other.He seemed awfully chummy with the daughter. Just struck me as funny.All that stuff you're referring to as filler was what built the character. You might not have liked it and were looking for more action, but that's not what this was about. It's about a guy who has nothing going on intellectually or creatively and literally just drives around because he is so barren that it's all he can think to do. I don't think it's necessarily anything more or less. That was all necessary to put you there. It's a character study, not really a conventional linear story. And I didn't interpret Chris Pontious as a pedophile at all. Just a pretty funny knucklehead friend. Seemed good-hearted to me.I thought it was often heavy-handed and amateurish. The scene of him driving around in circles. I get it; he's going nowhere. The endless scenes of him literally sitting in the apartment doing nothing? He must be all empty inside. I think there was about 30 minutes of good material in the film which was entirely the stuff with him and his daughter. Everything else just felt like filler. Although I did chuckle at the hanger-on buddy who's so clearly a pedophile and was all over Elle Fanning.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.I agree the filler stuff was about developing the character but I just felt like it was often heavy handed. It's not so much that I wanted more action; I just wanted something more interesting to watch. Like I said, the father-daughter scenes were well done. There was a lot of meat there. But the rest of the film lacked substance for me. I felt like Coppola was just too heavy-handed with what she was doing. I think she had the germ of an idea for a film but not enough material to really make it work.
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Had never seen this movie before last night. I definitely would put this one more in the "fun" movie than name it as a top horror movie. There were a couple of creepy moments - mostly at the end (who the #### would have a toy clown that creepy in their room?). Other than that the f/x were silly enough to get the wrong reaction from me. I didn't get the Evil Dead campy vibe, so I have to think it was just a victim of not having the means to make what they wanted to do actually work. Less would have been a lot better here.
In fact that movie is money top to bottom. However I can see that the effects may not hold up so well after 30 years (My goodness has it really been that long). It seems like you are just now getting to some films that really helped to define genres. It's a shame you never saw them when there wasn't such a glut of films that parrot them screaming for our attention. Rocky and Poltergeist are terrific films but in today's universe of CGI monsters and bloodspatter and highly stylized MMA intense fight sequences I can see how they would fall short for today's viewer.classic filmwatch it whenever its onThe clown and the guy peeling off his face were bothPoltergeist:
Had never seen this movie before last night. I definitely would put this one more in the "fun" movie than name it as a top horror movie. There were a couple of creepy moments - mostly at the end (who the #### would have a toy clown that creepy in their room?). Other than that the f/x were silly enough to get the wrong reaction from me. I didn't get the Evil Dead campy vibe, so I have to think it was just a victim of not having the means to make what they wanted to do actually work. Less would have been a lot better here.In fact that movie is money top to bottom. However I can see that the effects may not hold up so well after 30 years (My goodness has it really been that long). It seems like you are just now getting to some films that really helped to define genres. It's a shame you never saw them when there wasn't such a glut of films that parrot them screaming for our attention. Rocky and Poltergeist are terrific films but in today's universe of CGI monsters and bloodspatter and highly stylized MMA intense fight sequences I can see how they would fall short for today's viewer.
I felt the same way about 'older' films when Rocky and Poltergeist were new on the market. As I get older I find I have a much greater appreciation for the films that I thought were old when I was young (did that make sense?).
I liked the movie a lot despite some very corny scenes. Looking forward to the sequel.Finally caught Star Trek J.J.Abrams style last night. Disclaimer - I love the Star Trek franchise, though never wore a costume or went to a convention - that's just weird.
I had to quickly accept the reboot was changing a lot of what I knew. I got over that pretty quick. I think the people they had playing the various roles - except for Chekov who was annoyingly bad - did a fine job. I get why Leonard Nimoy was in it, but I really hate that as much as I hated the Star Trek Generations way they put Kirk in it. Anyone watching these movies with an ounce of love for the preious installments knows the original characters - they don't have to keep showing up to make the new ones more legitimate.
The space time change was necessary to make the reboot work I guess. I can go along with it. I just hope that in doing it they really don't go near any of the original movies at all. if the next movie is their version of Khan in this new universe I will not be happy. Just ignore the rest of the timeline from this point and make up your own. The effects were very good and I was entertained. It was, in the end, a better movie than most of the TNG movies that all felt to me like just extended television episodes.
I'll give it a B+. Bones was outstanding as was Scotty. They nailed those roles.
Can't sleep. Clown'll eat me.Poltergeist:
Had never seen this movie before last night. I definitely would put this one more in the "fun" movie than name it as a top horror movie. There were a couple of creepy moments - mostly at the end (who the #### would have a toy clown that creepy in their room?). Other than that the f/x were silly enough to get the wrong reaction from me. I didn't get the Evil Dead campy vibe, so I have to think it was just a victim of not having the means to make what they wanted to do actually work. Less would have been a lot better here.
I've only seen two Sophia Coppola films: The Virgin Suicides and Lost in Translation. I thought Suicides was very interesting. But Lost in Translation was a lot of style over substance.He seemed awfully chummy with the daughter. Just struck me as funny.All that stuff you're referring to as filler was what built the character. You might not have liked it and were looking for more action, but that's not what this was about. It's about a guy who has nothing going on intellectually or creatively and literally just drives around because he is so barren that it's all he can think to do. I don't think it's necessarily anything more or less. That was all necessary to put you there. It's a character study, not really a conventional linear story. And I didn't interpret Chris Pontious as a pedophile at all. Just a pretty funny knucklehead friend. Seemed good-hearted to me.I thought it was often heavy-handed and amateurish. The scene of him driving around in circles. I get it; he's going nowhere. The endless scenes of him literally sitting in the apartment doing nothing? He must be all empty inside. I think there was about 30 minutes of good material in the film which was entirely the stuff with him and his daughter. Everything else just felt like filler. Although I did chuckle at the hanger-on buddy who's so clearly a pedophile and was all over Elle Fanning.It took some patience, but it did end up getting into the ballpark she was looking get it to. I think there was a good bit of industry insularity in it, but that it was still palatable to somebody not in it. She seems to like to run Hollywood people up the flagpole, starting with Spike Jonze and Cameron Diaz in Lost in Translation.'packersfan said:I caught "Somewhere" on cable last night. Well acted and well cast and the father-daughter scenes were well done but overall it was just pointless and boring. It struck me as one of those films that thought it was far deeper than it really was. It also felt like a student film. If Sofia Coppola was Sofia Smith I doubt the film would ever have gotten made.I agree the filler stuff was about developing the character but I just felt like it was often heavy handed. It's not so much that I wanted more action; I just wanted something more interesting to watch. Like I said, the father-daughter scenes were well done. There was a lot of meat there. But the rest of the film lacked substance for me. I felt like Coppola was just too heavy-handed with what she was doing. I think she had the germ of an idea for a film but not enough material to really make it work.
I liked "Lost in Translation" quite a bit. I thought Murray was perfectly cast and Scarlett Johansson was great too. I thought that film did a much better job of presenting emptiness and loneliness than "Somewhere" did which tread some of the same territory (Hollywood star feeling lost and not knowing where his life is going etc.).I've only seen two Sophia Coppola films: The Virgin Suicides and Lost in Translation. I thought Suicides was very interesting. But Lost in Translation was a lot of style over substance.