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So what are you saying..youd rather watch a great actor in bad movies OR a decent/good actor in good or better movies?

Also, I initially called him a 'decent' actor. Now youre kinda backing down bc you dont think hes a 'good' actor, but you compare him to a great actor to weakly prove your point.

I dont get it

Not every actor is gonna get nominated, let alone multiple times. I just listed almost 25 movies hes done that after watching, you enjoyed and didnt waste your time (though to each his own).

Do I think guys half his age like Joe Gordon-Levitt, Ben Foster, Ryan Gosling, and Emile Hirsch are better actors than him, YES, but that doesnt mean Willis isnt good or at least makes good movies.

And maybe its just me, but Id rather watch Jason Statham in Snatch, than DeNiro in Rocky and Bullwinkle
All I was arguing is that Bruce Willis isn't a decent actor. (to me decent is above average, which is pretty close to good). I didn't say which I prefered, I was just commenting that there are a lot of average to bad actors that are in good/great movies, and on the flip side there are a lot of good/great actors that are in movies that I can't stand to watch. Just an observation, guy.
Observation understoodI know he has his schtick, but compared to most of those action guys (Arnold, Sly, and worse), he actually is a great actor. All things considered not great, but I think hes above average.

I guess our perception of 'decent' is different, but if youre in that many 'good' movies, I dont think your a below average actor, just saying

ETA: Does Tarantino use below average actors in fairly prominent roles? Just a thought.
Yes, he does. Tarantino just has that knack of getting every once of acting out of a person. A lot of people he uses are has-beens and people you usually don't think about but they seem to work well with what he is doing - Travolta, Kurt Russel, Willis, etc... Most of the time you think of the work they did with him as being their best and that might point more towards him than the actors. I would be interested in seeing if he could get Keanu to look like an actor...

It's kinda like you hinted at - acting is relative sometimes. Is Willis a great actor as a whole? I would argue not. Is he one of the best at what he does - ie mostly action movies ? Sure is. I think Stratham's another great example of that, and is probably the Willis for this generation.
I like that point on QT, though I wouldnt call any of them has beens except for Russell, but he hasnt done many movies over the last 5 years or so either.(Jackie Brown is probably my favorite QT movie. He got perfection out of Samuel, DeNiro, Grier, Fonda, Forster, etc)

Bringing up Keanu only helps, bc hes just bad. I want to rent Street Kings, heard some good things, but he makes me hesitant.

As far as Statham goes, hah, he might be.

In all honesty, I looked at my DVDs at someone who wouldnt be considered a 'good' actor, and I came upon Snatch, and named Statham. :popcorn: :stalker:

I agree he may be BW of this generation, but hes been in some pretty bad action movies lately (Condemned, Death Race, etc)
I guess when I wrote that I was thinking mainly of Russell and Travolta. When Pulp Fiction came out, I thought Travolta hadn't been in anything for a while. That movie seemed to jack up his career a little bit. Speaking of Willis (I think the discussion's run it's course) I've been meaning to check out Lucky # Slevin and 16 Blocks. Are either of them worth the time ??
16 Blocks was ok, Lucky Number Slevin was pretty weak. A good Bruce Willis movie that many people haven't seen is Nobody's Fool with Paul Newman.
 
jdoggydogg said:
16 Blocks was ok, Lucky Number Slevin was pretty weak. A good Bruce Willis movie that many people haven't seen is Nobody's Fool with Paul Newman.
I think youre the first person Ive heard this fromUnless I missed some post above, but they all looked positive, I thought it was very well done, good acting all around.

 
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16 Blocks was ok, Lucky Number Slevin was pretty weak. A good Bruce Willis movie that many people haven't seen is Nobody's Fool with Paul Newman.
I think youre the first person Ive heard this fromUnless I missed some post above, but they all looked positive, I thought it was very well done, good acting all around.
Hey, maybe you'll like Slevin. I thought it was a cheap ripoff of Tarantino and Guy Ritchie movies.
 
Hey, maybe you'll like Slevin. I thought it was a cheap ripoff of Tarantino and Guy Ritchie movies.
Worse than that, I thought. McGuigan - the director - has done some interesting work though. I like "Gangster #1", for example, even though it was pretty unoriginal plotting. "The Reckoning" wasn't bad either. Josh Hartnett is as much the problem with "Slevin" as anything. He's not really a leading man. His best work tends to be done when he speaks very little like "Black Hawk Down".
 
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Hey, maybe you'll like Slevin. I thought it was a cheap ripoff of Tarantino and Guy Ritchie movies.
Worse than that, I thought. McGuigan - the director - has done some interesting work though. I like "Gangster #1", for example, even though it was pretty unoriginal plotting. "The Reckoning" wasn't bad either. Josh Hartnett is as much the problem with "Slevin" as anything. He's not really a leading man. His best work tends to be done when he speaks very little like "Black Hawk Down".
Exactly. Hartnett isn't very good. He may develop into a real actor someday. But he can't carry a movie.
 
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Andy Dufresne said:
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8MM, The Rock, Con Air, and Face/Off rank among my worst movie experiences. Although admittedly, they were all better than McHale's Navy.
Never seen 8MM, but you've gotta be kidding me about the other three.
Not kidding at all. I guess most people don't find Nicholas Cage incredibly annoying like I do.
I didn't mind 8MM, except I read that Nic Cage wussed out about the ending and wanted the one that stuck for the theaters. But yes, I find Cage to be horrible in just about every movie he's in and usually can't watch him for more than 15 mins. IMO Con Air is a terrible movie, as is Face/Off. People seem to love his movies and disagree with me a lot, but he's one of the few actors that are on my "avoid at all costs" list.
 
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.

 
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
 
Since theres been a lot of horror talk out there:

Feast

It was great. It was like assault on precinct 13 with monsters and good dialogue

It got good ratings so I decided to watch it, and it def delivered

 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
Had a good movie friend recommend it, so it's #1 in my queue right now. I agree that the trailer wasn't that appealing.How I made it through these movies yesterday without becoming suicidal is anyone's guess:

Snow Angels: Have to say upfront that I'm a huge David Gordon Green fan and always think he should be on the "best current directors" list that float around here sometimes. I was a bit disappointed with Undertow, but this one made up for it. Usual warning as with most of my top movies: this is a highly depressing film. But damned if he doesn't just nail, as always, very real people in very real situations, reacting in very real ways. The directing style is top-notch, and the acting is phenomenal. Hot babe alert: Kate Beckinsale does an excellent job. Sam Rockwell is masterful and probably has received the most notice for his performance, but I was really taken with the two teenagers in the film. They are both insanely good and I am definitely going to see what else they've been in. Really a fantastic movie, if you can take the depression. 5/5

As if that weren't enough, I immediately followed this one with S21: The Khmer Rouge Killing Machine: After traveling to Cambodia in July, I've become particularly fascinated with Cambodian culture and history. For those who don't remember this bit of history, before the Khmer Rouge took over in 1975, there were about 7.7 million people in Cambodia. Around 2 million of them died in the next three years. This documentary is about the most notorious of the Khmer Rouge prisons--Tuol Sleng or S21--where all but 12 of the 17,000 people imprisoned (including women and children) were tortured and killed. (See Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum for more information.) The filmmaker brought back to the prison two of the survivors and about a half-dozen of the prison guards or workers, many of whom were responsible for torture and killing of their fellow Cambodians. Pretty much one of the most incredible documentaries you'll ever see. It's not all tied up in a bow, and I read some critical reviews on Netflix after watching this--people who complained that there was no tying together or storyline or voiceover to guide them through. But to me, that made the movie better, as it is more than enough to watch as former prisoners talk to former guards/killers to try to understand why they did what they did, or former guards reenact some of the everyday life or the torture or the killings. Incredible, if you can stomach it. I felt sick throughout watching this, but it is worth seeing. 5/5

 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
The trailer isn't that great for it, but I thought the movie was good. Took a chance because I remember a lot of critics recommending it too. The Onion gave it a B+, Travers gave it 3 1/2 stars, Roeper and whatshisname both gushed about it, etc.
 
As if that weren't enough, I immediately followed this one with S21: The Khmer Rouge Killing Machine: After traveling to Cambodia in July, I've become particularly fascinated with Cambodian culture and history. For those who don't remember this bit of history, before the Khmer Rouge took over in 1975, there were about 7.7 million people in Cambodia. Around 2 million of them died in the next three years. This documentary is about the most notorious of the Khmer Rouge prisons--Tuol Sleng or S21--where all but 12 of the 17,000 people imprisoned (including women and children) were tortured and killed. (See Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum for more information.) The filmmaker brought back to the prison two of the survivors and about a half-dozen of the prison guards or workers, many of whom were responsible for torture and killing of their fellow Cambodians. Pretty much one of the most incredible documentaries you'll ever see. It's not all tied up in a bow, and I read some critical reviews on Netflix after watching this--people who complained that there was no tying together or storyline or voiceover to guide them through. But to me, that made the movie better, as it is more than enough to watch as former prisoners talk to former guards/killers to try to understand why they did what they did, or former guards reenact some of the everyday life or the torture or the killings. Incredible, if you can stomach it. I felt sick throughout watching this, but it is worth seeing. 5/5
i'll have to add this to the queue. i've been fascinated with the khmer rouge for a long time and did some projects from grad school on them. i'd love to hear more about this trip. i'll buy the first few rounds even...
 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
Had a good movie friend recommend it, so it's #1 in my queue right now. I agree that the trailer wasn't that appealing.How I made it through these movies yesterday without becoming suicidal is anyone's guess:

Snow Angels: Have to say upfront that I'm a huge David Gordon Green fan and always think he should be on the "best current directors" list that float around here sometimes. I was a bit disappointed with Undertow, but this one made up for it. Usual warning as with most of my top movies: this is a highly depressing film. But damned if he doesn't just nail, as always, very real people in very real situations, reacting in very real ways. The directing style is top-notch, and the acting is phenomenal. Hot babe alert: Kate Beckinsale does an excellent job. Sam Rockwell is masterful and probably has received the most notice for his performance, but I was really taken with the two teenagers in the film. They are both insanely good and I am definitely going to see what else they've been in. Really a fantastic movie, if you can take the depression. 5/5
Looked at Snow Angels the other day, but passed it over. I guess I'll give it a try in the next few days. Nothing else, I :bye: Kate Beckinsdale.
 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
Had a good movie friend recommend it, so it's #1 in my queue right now. I agree that the trailer wasn't that appealing.How I made it through these movies yesterday without becoming suicidal is anyone's guess:

Snow Angels: Have to say upfront that I'm a huge David Gordon Green fan and always think he should be on the "best current directors" list that float around here sometimes. I was a bit disappointed with Undertow, but this one made up for it. Usual warning as with most of my top movies: this is a highly depressing film. But damned if he doesn't just nail, as always, very real people in very real situations, reacting in very real ways. The directing style is top-notch, and the acting is phenomenal. Hot babe alert: Kate Beckinsale does an excellent job. Sam Rockwell is masterful and probably has received the most notice for his performance, but I was really taken with the two teenagers in the film. They are both insanely good and I am definitely going to see what else they've been in. Really a fantastic movie, if you can take the depression. 5/5
Looked at Snow Angels the other day, but passed it over. I guess I'll give it a try in the next few days. Nothing else, I :lmao: Kate Beckinsdale.
Since this is the 2nd or 3rd time Ive seen you profess your love for Kate, I just wanted to let you know her last name is Beckinsale, not dale :lol:
 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
Had a good movie friend recommend it, so it's #1 in my queue right now. I agree that the trailer wasn't that appealing.How I made it through these movies yesterday without becoming suicidal is anyone's guess:

Snow Angels: Have to say upfront that I'm a huge David Gordon Green fan and always think he should be on the "best current directors" list that float around here sometimes. I was a bit disappointed with Undertow, but this one made up for it. Usual warning as with most of my top movies: this is a highly depressing film. But damned if he doesn't just nail, as always, very real people in very real situations, reacting in very real ways. The directing style is top-notch, and the acting is phenomenal. Hot babe alert: Kate Beckinsale does an excellent job. Sam Rockwell is masterful and probably has received the most notice for his performance, but I was really taken with the two teenagers in the film. They are both insanely good and I am definitely going to see what else they've been in. Really a fantastic movie, if you can take the depression. 5/5
Looked at Snow Angels the other day, but passed it over. I guess I'll give it a try in the next few days. Nothing else, I :goodposting: Kate Beckinsale.
Since this is the 2nd or 3rd time Ive seen you profess your love for Kate, I just wanted to let you know her last name is Beckinsale, not dale :lmao:
dammit - I have zero clue why I always do that.
 
dude said:
really liked the recently released the fall (by tarsem singh, who i think has only done the cell, previously)... this was one of the best movies i've seen this year... not perfect, i thought the end was a bit abrupt...this has probably fallen through the cracks, as i don't think it reached any kind of distribution outside of the festval circuit... i thought the cell was visually stunning, but somewhat lacking in the story department... the fall is even more visually stunning, & imo is a much better story... he doesn't have a very deep body of work (sort of like an indian terrance mallick? :) ), but after seeing this movie, i'm starting to think he could be an important director and worth following his career... somewhat like gilliam's baron von munchausen, employing similar narrative vehicle to spin out episodic tales... also like wizard of oz (& munchausen), characters & events from the narrator's world are incorporated into & interwoven with the tales...this could almost be a family classic (but a dark one, like pan's labrynth), but maybe not ideal for YOUNG children, as there is some heavy underlying subject matter... a paralyzed and hospitalized stunt man ('30s or '40s?) distraught over being jilted tells a young girl fellow patient an epic tale of revenge, betrayal & love, in order to cajole her into stealing morphine so he can carry out his intent to suicide... at any rate this movie could appeal at a lot of levels, & could have crossover appeal for most ages, young & old... the stunt man & central character doesn't look like him, but his way of speaking reminds me of owen wilson... the little girl steals the show...the scope of this work is also maybe reminiscent of gilliam in that he paints on an extremely broad canvas & the story is wildly imaginative (i suspect a big reason singh took so long between movies was probably a gilliam-like difficulty in securing funds from financiers who balk at the prospect that his epic scope of vision could exceed the resources alotted to the budget for a weird movie by a quirky director that may not have mainstream appeal & bankability)... but the look is more streamlined & maybe even refined... gilliam can be a bit bloated at times, though i do admire him a lot for the most part...
thanks to this review, i checked it out and liked it. the girl did stole the show.
interesting backstory to the movie... he claims to have scouted locations for 17 years (reportedly shot in 24 countries & it shows), & when he saw a picture of the girl he felt compelled to start filming right away... he was able to piggyback on his commerical shoots to cut costs, but still almost went bankrupt by financing it out of pocket... reminiscent of the big stakes coppola gambled with apocalypse now, reportedly being close to the brink financially... less successfully, billy friedkin, flush from success of the exorcist, lost a fortune shooting the unappreciated gem but commercially disastrous sorceror on location in central or south american jungle... one thing that made conventional financing impossible, was he admitted that the script would be partly written by the child actress (the stories of the narrator & girl become interwoven & collaborative during the course of the movie)... one way they were able to capture such a natural & unaffected performance from the child was hiding the camera where possible, & filming during apparent rehearsals...tarsem (as he goes by) has been attached to a few projects recently, but not sure if anything concrete is lined up...* ebert liked it enough to give it a follow up review (both below)... he also said it would make his best/favorite movies of the year list...The Fall May 29, 2008 By Roger EbertTarsem's "The Fall" is a mad folly, an extravagant visual orgy, a free-fall from reality into uncharted realms. Surely it is one of the wildest indulgences a director has ever granted himself. Tarsem, for two decades a leading director of music videos and TV commercials, spent millions of his own money to finance "The Fall," filmed it for four years in 28 countries and has made a movie that you might want to see for no other reason than because it exists. There will never be another like it."The Fall" is so audacious that when Variety calls it a "vanity project," you can only admire the man vain enough to make it. It tells a simple story with vast romantic images so stunning I had to check twice, three times, to be sure the film actually claims to have absolutely no computer-generated imagery. None? What about the Labyrinth of Despair, with no exit? The intersecting walls of zig-zagging staircases? The man who emerges from the burning tree? Perhaps the key words are "computer-generated." Perhaps some of the images are created by more traditional kinds of special effects.The story framework for the imagery is straightforward. In Los Angeles, circa 1915, a silent movie stunt man has his legs paralyzed while performing a reckless stunt. He convalesces in a half-deserted hospital, its corridors of cream and lime stretching from ward to ward of mostly empty beds, their pillows and sheets awaiting the harvest of World War I. The stunt man is Roy (Lee Pace), pleasant in appearance, confiding in speech, happy to make a new friend of a little girl named Alexandria (Catinca Untaru).Roy tells a story to Alexandria, involving adventurers who change appearance as quickly as a child's imagination can do its work. We see the process. He tells her of an "Indian" who has a wigwam and a squaw. She does not know these words, and envisions an Indian from a land of palaces, turbans and swamis. The verbal story is input from Roy; the visual story is output from Alexandria.The story involves Roy (playing the Black Bandit) and his friends: a bomb-throwing Italian anarchist, an escaped African slave, an Indian (from India), and Charles Darwin and his pet monkey, Wallace. Their sworn enemy, Governor Odious, has stranded them on a desert island, but they come ashore (riding swimming elephants, of course) and wage war on him.Roy draws out the story for a personal motive; after Alexandria brings him some communion wafers from the hospital chapel, he persuades her to steal some morphine tablets from the dispensary. Paralyzed and having lost his great love (she is the Princess in his story), he hopes to kill himself. There is a wonderful scene of the little girl trying to draw him back to life.Either you are drawn into the world of this movie or you are not. It is preposterous, of course, but I vote with Werner Herzog, who says if we do not find new images, we will perish. Here a line of bowmen shoot hundreds of arrows into the air. So many of them fall into the back of the escaped slave that he falls backward and the weight of his body is supported by them, as on a bed of nails with dozens of foot-long arrows. There is scene of the monkey Wallace chasing a butterfly through impossible architecture.At this point in reviews of movies like "The Fall" (not that there are any), I usually announce that I have accomplished my work. I have described what the movie does, how it looks while it is doing it, and what the director has achieved. Well, what has he achieved? "The Fall" is beautiful for its own sake. And there is the sweet charm of the young Romanian actress Catinca Untaru, who may have been dubbed for all I know, but speaks with the innocence of childhood, working her way through tangles of words. She regards with equal wonder the reality she lives in, and the fantasy she pretends to. It is her imagination that creates the images of Roy's story, and they have a purity and power beyond all calculation. Roy is her perfect storyteller, she is his perfect listener, and together they build a world.Ebert notes: The movie's R rating should not dissuade bright teenagers from this celebration of the imagination.Tarsem and the legend of "The Fall" June 3, 2008by Roger EbertTarsem was talking about how he risked almost everything he owned to make a movie that nobody, nobody at all, was willing to finance for years. The movie is "The Fall," which will be on my list of the year's best films, and is setting box office records on the art house circuit. It is almost impossible to describe. You can say what happens, but you can't convey the astonishment of how it happens.Tarsem made millions as a director of commercials, and gladly spent most of them to make his movie. "Everybody in advertising," he was telling me, "always says one day they’ll make a great movie with their own money, blah, blah, blah. They never do it. David Fincher, one of my producers, told me, 'You happen to be the fool that has done it'."Tarsem is a thin man of medium height, mercurial in conversation, smiling easily. "Something happened to me that doesn’t happen to most people," he said. "Life happens to them. It was happening to me. But at the particular point when I was ready to settle down with a woman and have the babies, the woman moved and had the babies with somebody else. I was freaked out. What happened next was, I had promised myself I would make this film in a heartbeat if I found the right girl. And suddenly I found the little girl."How would he finance the movie? "I’ve never known what to do with money. I live quite easily. Ninety-five percent of the time it seems like I'm on airplanes or in airports. I travel making commercials, I have a home that’s all paid for, and I’m a prostitute in love with a profession. I had no idea who my money was for. It wasn’t for the kids that I didn’t have, so I decided to cash in.""The Fall" is one of the most extraordinary films I've ever seen. Set in Los Angeles in 1915, it involves a paralyzed stunt man (Lee Pace) and a four-year old Romanian girl named Alexandria (Catinca Untaru) who occupy separate wings in a hospital where most of the beds are empty -- waiting, probably, to be filled by victims of the Great War.The stunt man begins to tell the girl a story. We hear the story in his words, but we see it through her eyes, and she imagines it as a magical vision. After filming all the scenes involving the two characters, Tarsem shot her visions in 28 countries over a period of four years. There are sights in the film you cannot imagine are possible, but Tarsem says he used no computers to create them. They exist.Who is this Tarsem? Full name, Tarsem Singh Dhabdwar. Last name too hard for Americans to say. Millions of Indians have the middle name "Singh." Therefore, Tarsem. Born in India, his family moved to Iran when he was three, but his father was concerned the mullahs would destroy education there, so he sent his two sons to a boarding school in the Himalayas."I saw a book in India titled Guide to Film Schools in America, and it shell-shocked me," he said. "It changed my life, because I thought you went to college to study something that your father loved and you hated. I told my father I wanted to study film and he said there was no way he was gonna let me do that. I made my way to Los Angeles, and made a film that won a scholarship to the Art Center College of Design. My father thought I was headed for Harvard. I called him and said, 'I want to study film,' and he said, 'You don’t exist anymore'."Tarsem made a music video for Suzanne Vega, another for REM. "The first commercial I did was for Levi's, and was based on the movie 'The Swimmer,' the Burt Lancaster one, where a guy swims from pool to pool in his neighbor's back yards. The tagline was, 'The more you wash them, the better they get.”' That won the Grand Prix in Cannes and so in a way it's been downhill ever since."The agencies that made commercials, he said, "gave me very good money and I didn't complain about it. I put it aside like a little squirrel and at the end I ended up with a project that I wanted to do very badly and threw it all away, so now I’m penniless but as happy as a pig in poo. I told my brother, sell everything, I’m going on this magical mystery tour. When I finish it, I’ll let you know. I called him when it was almost done. He said the house was almost up for sale. But I was finished."He has a quick smile and makes his struggle sound like a lark."If you think it’s hard raising money for a film, try telling people that the script is going to be written by a 4-year old. It’s going to be dictated to me by a child. For seven years wherever I would shoot a commercial I would send people out with a camera to schools, and one day I got a tape of this girl at a school in Romania, in the middle of students talking. I was amazed. She was perfect. She didn't speak English. The penny dropped. She was six, but if she didn’t speak the language she would be using, the misunderstanding would buy me the two years that I needed. Because she had to seem four."I found a mental asylum in South Africa that gave me a wing. I figured everything for her had to be visual. I explained to her where she lived, where he lived, where everything was. And we taught her the English of her lines, word by word. She would say them, and if she didn't get it right in three or four takes, we changed her dialog because she needed to sound spontaneous, not rehearsed.""I found a mental asylum in South Africa that gave me a wing. I figured everything for her had to be visual. I explained to her where she lived, where he lived, where everything was. And we taught her the English of her lines, word by word. She would say them, and if she didn't get it right in three or four takes, we changed her dialog because she needed to sound spontaneous, not rehearsed."It's true. One of the treasures of the film is the sound of the dialog by Catinca Untaru. We understand every word, but she sounds as if she's inventing them as utters them.Now what about those miraculous locations? I asked him. No special effects? What about the zig-zagging interlocking black and white staircases reaching down into the earth?"Its true. Its Ripley’s. What people think is not true in the film is true. The steps that go down, it's a reservoir that has been there for 500 or 600 years. It's used for seeing how low the water level is, to determine how to tax people. If the water level is so high, they charge so much tax from the farmers. The problem is most of the time you never see those steps; they’re underwater. Somebody showed me these steps and said they went really way down. And I said, well, has anybody seen that?"They said, most Indians think they look cheap. But in fact they look like an inspiration by Escher. So labyrinthine and mad. The problem is, when you see the wide shot, you realize they're not what I’m making them out to be. What matters is how I’m framing it. If you see the wider shots, there are about 2,000 Indians on trees watching and wondering why we’re shooting in a really crappy well. But since I shot those steps, three Hindi movies have gone and shot there because they figure, if its good enough for him, it must be beautiful."And the Labyrinth With no Escape?"That is a 400-year-old observatory. The steps line up with one star, the arc lines up with another star, and if you look around the location it's really chaotic and haywire. All I had to do was choose my angle so I could use their shapes without showing their surroundings. I thought, I can make a labyrinth out of this if I make it look like it’s enclosed. The fact is, it's a really cheap-looking park in the middle of Jaidpur."And as for the Blue City..."Jodhpur, the blue city, is a Brahmin city where you’re only supposed to paint your house blue. I made a contract with the city; we would give them free paint. We knew legally they could only choose blue. So they painted their houses blue and it looked more vibrant than it ever had before."Tarsem made it all sound so simple, and when you see the film it all seems literally impossible."There are no computer effects. It’s just the kind of visual stuff like what I was doing all the time with commercials, where it looks like more than it is. In all these places I had filmed over at least 17 years, I told the people, this is a paid job, its a commercial, but I’ll come back one day and make this place look magical. To use a line from 'The Godfather,' he does them a favor, and one day, 'and that day may never come,' there will be a favor in return. And 17 years later that day came, I showed up, and some of the favors I could cash in, and some I couldn't. "And then Tarsem made one of the most astonishing films I have ever seen. It is all the more special in this age of computer-generated special effects, because we see things that cannot exist, but our eyes do not lie, and they do exist, yes, they really do.
This movie is truly a masterpiece.I can't describe it and Ebert only scratches the surface. It's like the first time I ever saw Cirque Du Soleil's "Mystere" in Vegas. I could only liken it to the first time a child sees Disneyland.It's visually stunning with a great story.You HAVE to see this film. It's not a request!
yup.
I normally hate when you guys quote 44 different responses, but I thought I had to here so that people don't miss this. The gf and I watched this last night and enjoyed it. We couldn't believe that all those shots were real and not cg or at least enhanced. Awe-inspiring cinematography. We saw this on Blu-ray, to boot, so if you can find it (Blockbuster had it) on that, I'd highly recommend it. :lmao:
 
Sex And The City - About what you would expect. At least I was able to avoid paying for this at the movies. There were a few laughs in it. Too long, but I've seen worse chic flicks. 1.75/5

The Vanishing - Rented this after seeing Pan's Labyrinth. Kept me interested through most of the movie. I'm partial to redheads and like the girlfriend who goes missing (she not being able to speak english probably was a bonus). The storyline moved right along and it certainly was a nice change of pace movie from what I have been watching. 3.25/5

Hot Fuzz - Mindless, amusing film that had some funny moments, It was an OK rental for a rainy night in. 2/5

Casablanca - I'd never seen this movie in its entirety before. It's held up well over time and I really enjoyed this classic Bogart film. 4.5/5

Pan's Labyrinth - I was not familiar with this film and rented it strictly because of this thread. I liked it, and was not disappointed. The mothers character was more than a bit annoying, but it was another different enjoyable movie. 3.5/5

1408 - I haven't rented what is suppose to be a scary movie for a while. I went in with low expectations, but ended up enjoying the movie. I like John Cusack in this and in Identity (which I liked better than 1408). A decent rental. 3/5

Definitely Maybe - Maybe not high prise, but definitely better than Sex In The City. I also kinda have a thing for Isla Fisher. I thought it was an OK movie. 2.75/5

 
Sex And The City - About what you would expect. At least I was able to avoid paying for this at the movies. There were a few laughs in it. Too long, but I've seen worse chic flicks. 1.75/5
Why didnt you avoid paying for it at blockbuster :(
 
jdoggydogg said:
KarmaPolice said:
Just got done watching The Visitor.

Great movie that I really didn't know much about until I took a stab at it when I was looking at the "new this week" lists for DVDs. It's by the writer/director of The Station Agent and I would recommend anybody that liked that movie to check this one out as well.
That trailer looked bad to me, so I avoided it. But I liked The Station Agent, so I added The Visitor to my queue.
The trailer isn't that great for it, but I thought the movie was good. Took a chance because I remember a lot of critics recommending it too. The Onion gave it a B+, Travers gave it 3 1/2 stars, Roeper and whatshisname both gushed about it, etc.
Totally. I can't remember reading a bad review of that movie. Makes me think the people that produced the trailer were sub-par.
 
As if that weren't enough, I immediately followed this one with S21: The Khmer Rouge Killing Machine: After traveling to Cambodia in July, I've become particularly fascinated with Cambodian culture and history. For those who don't remember this bit of history, before the Khmer Rouge took over in 1975, there were about 7.7 million people in Cambodia. Around 2 million of them died in the next three years. This documentary is about the most notorious of the Khmer Rouge prisons--Tuol Sleng or S21--where all but 12 of the 17,000 people imprisoned (including women and children) were tortured and killed. (See Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum for more information.) The filmmaker brought back to the prison two of the survivors and about a half-dozen of the prison guards or workers, many of whom were responsible for torture and killing of their fellow Cambodians. Pretty much one of the most incredible documentaries you'll ever see. It's not all tied up in a bow, and I read some critical reviews on Netflix after watching this--people who complained that there was no tying together or storyline or voiceover to guide them through. But to me, that made the movie better, as it is more than enough to watch as former prisoners talk to former guards/killers to try to understand why they did what they did, or former guards reenact some of the everyday life or the torture or the killings. Incredible, if you can stomach it. I felt sick throughout watching this, but it is worth seeing. 5/5
i'll have to add this to the queue. i've been fascinated with the khmer rouge for a long time and did some projects from grad school on them. i'd love to hear more about this trip. i'll buy the first few rounds even...
I'll trade you SE Asia for Macchu Picchu? :lmao:
 
Just got done watching Redbelt.

Liked the direction, liked the basic premise of the movie, but overall thought it fell short. Maybe it was the beers or the time of night but it just felt choppy and convoluted. A lot of things (esp. at the end) felt either forced or really out of place. Would recommend it to the Mamet fans on the board, but not to anybody else.

 
I almost forgot- I also watched The Happening.

Yes, it is as terrible as people have been saying. Stay away from this thing at all costs.

 
Since theres been a lot of horror talk out there:FeastIt was great. It was like assault on precinct 13 with monsters and good dialogueIt got good ratings so I decided to watch it, and it def delivered
FWIW, this was the movie they developed in Project Greenlight Season 2.Fun horror flick in the tradition of From Dusk Till Dawn.
 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.

 
Redbelt.

Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.

We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.

 
I rented a couple of Korean movies this week:

Legend of the Shadowless Sword: I really enjoyed this movie. Awesome cinematography and great martial arts scenes.

4/5

Musa the Warrior : I liked the movie, but I think they could have developed the characters a little more, especially the Ming Princess. Had the potential to be a great movie. 3.5/5

 
Redbelt.Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.
:no: I understand the criticisms regarding the implausibility of some of the plot turns (especially the end), but I enjoyed this movie for the same reason...and for the lead performance.
 
Redbelt.

Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.

We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.
:goodposting: I understand the criticisms regarding the implausibility of some of the plot turns (especially the end), but I enjoyed this movie for the same reason...and for the lead performance.
 
Redbelt.Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.
:thumbup: I understand the criticisms regarding the implausibility of some of the plot turns (especially the end), but I enjoyed this movie for the same reason...and for the lead performance.
I agree with you two about the main character, but put me in the camp of not liking the movie as much b/c of the ending, which I thought was too much.
 
Redbelt.Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.
:goodposting: I understand the criticisms regarding the implausibility of some of the plot turns (especially the end), but I enjoyed this movie for the same reason...and for the lead performance.
I agree with you two about the main character, but put me in the camp of not liking the movie as much b/c of the ending, which I thought was too much.
Sweet J, I'm with you 100% about the impact of that scene. I touched on the same thing earlier in this thread in my review. But I'm with Karma on this one, the plot just ruined the entire experience for me. It is refreshing to live through a character that doesn't compromise their values and the main character really pulled this off. Just the implausibility of what I would call the three main plot points kept me from truely enjoying this film. The effort to make a great film was there, it just didn't follow through for me because of the screenplay.
 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.
Thought the same thing and I dont think I like a single other Foster movie besides 'Lambs'However, as always, Terrence Howard was great in it. A poor man's Jamie Foxx if you will that always delivers. Probably one of my favorite actors Ive recently come across the last few years

'Whoop that trick!!! Get Em!! Whoop that trick!!!'

 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.
Thought the same thing and I dont think I like a single other Foster movie besides 'Lambs'However, as always, Terrence Howard was great in it. A poor man's Jamie Foxx if you will that always delivers. Probably one of my favorite actors Ive recently come across the last few years

'Whoop that trick!!! Get Em!! Whoop that trick!!!'
Definitely. Terrance Howard needs to be in more movies. I think Howard is the next Don Cheadle - only more talented.
 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.
Thought the same thing and I dont think I like a single other Foster movie besides 'Lambs'However, as always, Terrence Howard was great in it. A poor man's Jamie Foxx if you will that always delivers. Probably one of my favorite actors Ive recently come across the last few years

'Whoop that trick!!! Get Em!! Whoop that trick!!!'
Definitely. Terrance Howard needs to be in more movies. I think Howard is the next Don Cheadle - only more talented.
Nice comparison, Cheadle's another favorite.TH needs to keep taking those challenging roles like he had in Hustle&Flow and Crash instead of somewhat simpler ones like this and Pride, but I havent seen a movie hes in where hes not very good

 
Redbelt.Rented it last night. Now, I'm a boxing fan, and a Ultimate Fighting fan, so I assumed I would like the movie on purely that level. But I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it, especially its meditation on honor, integrety, and decency. The central character was admirable, and brought my mind back to remembering the type of person I wanted to be growing up.We don't grow into our ideals. We shift. We make compromizes of character in the face of duty to family, to community, to . . . I guess, ourselves (or what we think of as necessary for advancement in society). When we witness on the big screen a character who refuses to compromise his ideal, it's. . . nice. If only for a moment, before we go back to our world of compromises. So thanks, david mamet.
:thumbup: I understand the criticisms regarding the implausibility of some of the plot turns (especially the end), but I enjoyed this movie for the same reason...and for the lead performance.
I agree with you two about the main character, but put me in the camp of not liking the movie as much b/c of the ending, which I thought was too much.
Sweet J, I'm with you 100% about the impact of that scene. I touched on the same thing earlier in this thread in my review. But I'm with Karma on this one, the plot just ruined the entire experience for me. It is refreshing to live through a character that doesn't compromise their values and the main character really pulled this off. Just the implausibility of what I would call the three main plot points kept me from truely enjoying this film. The effort to make a great film was there, it just didn't follow through for me because of the screenplay.
Upon further thought, I really liked the movie up to the point where the tournament started. Then it just broke down completely.
 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.
Thought the same thing and I dont think I like a single other Foster movie besides 'Lambs'However, as always, Terrence Howard was great in it. A poor man's Jamie Foxx if you will that always delivers. Probably one of my favorite actors Ive recently come across the last few years

'Whoop that trick!!! Get Em!! Whoop that trick!!!'
Definitely. Terrance Howard needs to be in more movies. I think Howard is the next Don Cheadle - only more talented.
Nice comparison, Cheadle's another favorite.TH needs to keep taking those challenging roles like he had in Hustle&Flow and Crash instead of somewhat simpler ones like this and Pride, but I havent seen a movie hes in where hes not very good
Cheadle was great in Boogie Nights. But at this point I think he's overrated. I believe he has an excellent movie career ahead of him. However, I don't think he's the top actor critics believe he is - yet.
 
The Brave One

Jodie Foster revenge drama. Nothing unique or special in this perfunctory movie. But still, it was engaging. Not bad.
Thought the same thing and I dont think I like a single other Foster movie besides 'Lambs'However, as always, Terrence Howard was great in it. A poor man's Jamie Foxx if you will that always delivers. Probably one of my favorite actors Ive recently come across the last few years

'Whoop that trick!!! Get Em!! Whoop that trick!!!'
Definitely. Terrance Howard needs to be in more movies. I think Howard is the next Don Cheadle - only more talented.
Nice comparison, Cheadle's another favorite.TH needs to keep taking those challenging roles like he had in Hustle&Flow and Crash instead of somewhat simpler ones like this and Pride, but I havent seen a movie hes in where hes not very good
Cheadle was great in Boogie Nights. But at this point I think he's overrated. I believe he has an excellent movie career ahead of him. However, I don't think he's the top actor critics believe he is - yet.
I agree that Howard most likely has more range and chops than CheadleIm assuming youre saying Cheadle is overrated??

I kind of agree with you, but kind of dont. I think his roles have limited him somewhat. When I see him in these movies, I dont think Im watchin this character, I think Im actually watching "Don Cheadle":

-Reign Over Me

-Hotel Rwanda

-Crash

-United States of Leland (BTW, a simply GREAT movie for those who havent seen/heard of it. Cheadle and Gosling esp both great)

-Manic

-Traffic

-Swordfish

-Rosewood

..and I actually thought I could come up with more above, but I guess the 'Oceans' have held him up in making more movies

In these movies though:

-Talk to Me (possibly his best performance thus far)

-Boogie Nights

-After the Sunset

-Out of Sight (another personal favorite, but Cheadle is just icing on the cake)

-Devil in a Blue Dress

His acting is on point, but hes taking a role that is "un-Cheadle" like, and excels at it.

Its kind of funny because those are only 8-5, but I just feel like Cheadle's been 'typecasted' somewhat for 'Cheadle'. He just plays that mild mannered guy, whos not a dork, just normal for the most part, but has an edge to him. He does it to perfection and almost every movie going in, thats what youre expecting to see - 'Cheadle'

I agree with you JDD that he has the potential to really make a name for himself, but really its those latter movies where he really shows what hes capable of, and its those roles he should try to take more often than not.

 
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Since theres been a lot of horror talk out there:

Feast

It was great. It was like assault on precinct 13 with monsters and good dialogue

It got good ratings so I decided to watch it, and it def delivered
FWIW, this was the movie they developed in Project Greenlight Season 2.Fun horror flick in the tradition of From Dusk Till Dawn.
Was adding this to my queue. Evidently there is a sequel to this movie as well:Feast 2: Sloppy Seconds

:goodposting:

 
Some bad movie watching on the holiday yesterday...

Get Smart: I have never seen the original show so there was probably a few jokes I missed out on. At least I hope there was because this movie was not funny at all. Seriously. I kept waiting for something good to happen but it never did. I think this is the first Steve Carell movie I haven't liked. 1.5/5

College: This movie was a cheap ripoff of Superbad. No name actors who have no business being in movies and toilet humour = bad movie. The only thing that saved it was loads of gratuitous boob scenes. .5/5

Expelled - No Intelligence Allowed: Ben Stein's "documentary" about ID and creationism. I was hoping to find out a little more about the whole ID movement through this show, but it gave absolutely nothing. The entire premise of the "documentary" was Stein twisting people's words and basically making things up. Countless times he proclaimed mountains of evidence against evolution, yet he didn't offer up a single fact. This "documentary" was nothing more than the Discovery Institute trying to push its propaganda. His attempt at using the holocaust to attack evolution and Darwin was sad and pathetic. All that said, I recommend people to watch the movie but not before reading this website: Expelled Exposed.

 
The Jacket

For some reason, I was always turned off from watching this movie without even knowing what it was about. It was recommended in Karma's horror thread as being similar to Donnie Darko, which I consider to be one of the few "perfect" films ever made. The Jacket was like throwing Donnie Darko, 12 Monkeys, and Butterfly Effect in a blender. I enjoyed it, but was hoping it would build up to something a little "bigger". I'll take any of the other three films over it, but Brody was fantastic in this. I also wish there was a bigger "revelation" involving Daniel Craig's character.

I'll give it 4/5 based on the mind#### subject matter and Brody's performance.

Devil's Backbone

I'm a big Del Toro fan and this movie is right up there with Pan's Labyrinth in his collection. Excellent performances by the child actors, the main character in particular. Del Toro blends horror and fantasy better than anyone in the business and comes up with some incredible shots despite not having a lot to work with. I absolutely can't wait for the release of the Hobbit in 2011 with him behind the camera, I have a feeling that Smaug is going to be the new king of Hollywood monsters.

4.5/5

 
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