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Great watching this from afar.Does the rookie draft start right away? I can't wait to see that go down.
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Jeff Pasquino
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42.07 Johnson, Jarret BAL DE39.10 Rayner, Dave GBP PK Second kicker, again young with a good leg. Only knock would be the Frozen Tundra.Lots have happened since Round 28.34.07 Griese, Brian CHI QB
36.07 Bollinger, Brooks MIN QB
Two QBs with upside. Griese is self-explanatory with Rex, but Bollinger is allegedly competing with Tarvaris. Either way, nice to have both.
37.04 Ward, Derrick NYG RB
Second RB on the roster right now for the Giants. Also an interesting pickup if Buckhalter goes to the G-men.
37.10 McMullen, Billy MIN WR
Former Eagle is doing well with the Vikings (and TJax) and is a nice sleeper. He actually can catch over half his targets.
36.04 Akers, David PHI PK
My #1 PK in the 36th round. Sounds good to me.
38.07. Tapp, Darryl SEA DE ®
The former Hokie had a nice first year, and he's already Top 50 DL on most Dynasty lists.
37.10 Banta-Cain, Tully NEP LB
Either a solid young LB in NE, or possibly the next SF LB that does well. Either way, I like the upside.
37.02 Sheppard, Lito PHI CB
Can't have too many Eagles, right? Actually he's about my 5th or 6th (Westbrook, Avant, Akers, possibly C-Buck) but he's a solid Pro Bowl corner.
34.15 Brown, Mike CHI S (I)
33.10 Bullocks, Josh NOS S
37.14 Smith, Anthony PIT S ®
32.70 Smith, Dwight MIN S
That "I" next to Mike Brown means injured, but it could also mean "Incredible" Value. This guy was lights out good two years ago, so I'll take that chance.
Bullocks is a bright young prospect for the Saints in a bad secondary.
Not an expert on Anthony Smith, but Bloom says he's good so that works for me. Actually I do know him - 3rd rounder from Syracuse, started in December. Good young prospect.
Daryl Smith is an oldie but a goodie. Actually he's on the right side of 30, but he might not be a Viking much longer. Their secondary is a mess, but he's a solid S in a league where good DBs stick around.
I also traded 2 4th round rookies and a 5th rounder for 3 veteran picks. I figured that my 4 rookies picks (1.05, 1.07, 1.08 and 2.10) are worth enough, and then there is enough value to scoop up in the veteran rounds.
40.07 Shipp, Marcel ARI RB
Rumors abound on where this free agent RB goes. Giants? Denver? Detroit's out now, but he could go a lot of places, and he's under 30.
41.10 Glover, La' roi STL DT
Extremely talented DT, and a nice compliment to Kelly Gregg. DT's the least glamorous position of IDP, so two solid vets sounds great to me.
Six more vet picks to go....
Sleeper time.
Source: Carroll County Times Getting a DE that could be used like AD even in a limited capacity is a huge steal this late.
43.02 Miller, Billy NOS TE
Miller is the only TE on a Sean Payton / Drew Brees team. They have a high-flyin' offense, and a starting TE in Round 43 is ridiculous value.
43.10 Wistrom, Grant SEA DE
I considered other veterans here to deepen my DEs, but Wistrom was easily at the top of the list. He's not as old as one might think (30) and he's finished just outside the Top 50 DEs the past two seasons. I'll take that for my #5 DE.
43.13 Northcutt, Dennis CLE WR
Another sleeper. It pays to stay up on news and/or NFL rumors.
Northcutt to Jacksonville?
Apparently the Jags are looking at Northcutt to come in as their #3 for next season.
44.07 Looker, Dane STL WR
Kevin Curtis is leaving. Shaun MacDonald is out. Who's the #3 after Holt and Bruce? Dane Looker.
45.10 Godfrey, Randall SDC LB
A veteran LB to sure up my corps. He's coming back for one more year so this will do fine as my final pick.
31.10 Rosenfels, Sage HOU QB
Apparently I missed one to comment on here - Sage Rosenfels is the #1 QB in Houston right now, and he would have been the starter had he been healthy last December. With Carr likely out and if Plummer doesn't head there, look for Rosenfels to at least compete for the starting job.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Final Roster:
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redman
Footballguy
42.16(672) Myers, Michael - I needed a backup to Jamal Williams, and Myers in both dynasty leagues I've been in has always seemed to get overlooked as a solid (if unspectacular) DT. I'm not a big believer in sinking a lot of resources into this position as there seems to be a lot of flux and players at this position seem to lose their athleticism at the fastest pace, regressing quickly to the mean. The waiver wire tends to be key here.
43.01(673) Laboy, Travis - Again, I'm drafting depth and Laboy is a decent young DE prospect who happens to start at the valued RDE position.
44.16(704) Dendy, Patrick - He put up great numbers at the end of the year, so I'm hoping that that's a sign of things to come. He's also young.
45.01(705) Herndon, Kelly - No, I didn't want two CB's (my 4th and 5th) to round out my draft, but thanks to the vagaries of predrafting that's how it played out. Certainly not a disaster, but not the way I wanted to end the draft.
My current roster:
QB - Bulger, Carr, S. Wallace, I. Martin, Frerotte
I feel good about this position, although the lack of an established backup concerns me for 2007. Hopefully Carr can land a starting job somewhere. In the meantime, Bulger should put up impressive numbers in this scoring format.
RB - Tomlinson, L. White, C. Brown, C. Houston, A. Thomas, A. Harris
It's pretty easy to look like a genius when you have Tomlinson on your team, but that can be as much of a curse as a blessing. This is a league whose scoring deemphasizes RB's relative to other positions, so by being "obligated" to draft a RB early at 1.01 I was watching a lot of very talented WR's and TE's drop off the board before I could really build my team. I like what I did in drafting backups though. Between White, Brown, Houston and maybe Thomas, I should be able to find a decent RB2 week to week, and the first two (and perhaps, but less likely, Houston) may even end up as starting RB's for their teams. Harris ended up being a wasted pick given the Tatum Bell trade - oh well.
WR - Colston, Burress, Henry, Randle El, Baskett, J. Porter, Hilliard
They're deep, talented and young, and with the exception of Burress and Hilliard have probably not shown us their potential yet.
TE - Scheffler, Graham, Wiggins
I like this group. All three will probably be the primary pass-catching TE's for their teams which is great, and Scheffler's end of last season showed some amazing potential with Cutler. I needed good depth here given my shaky RB2 situation and the potential need for starting 2 TE's instead of 2 RB's, especially given the added weight given to TE scoring, and I feel like I was successful in getting that.
K - Kaeding
It's a kicker for a high scoring team, and he's young, has a strong, accurate leg, and he plays in good weather. What do you want?
DT - J. Williams, Myers
I have two quality guys here who will hold the line for me. They're average, and that's fine. I'm going to be playing four LB's and one DT, rather than three and two.
DE - Peppers, Suggs, Dumervil, Laboy
I love Peppers and Suggs. That tandem could dominate for me at DE for the next five years. Dumervil and Laboy are young and have enough talent to be adequate spot starters for me on bye weeks or due to injury.
LB - Pierce, Hayes, Gaither, A. Brooks, J. Anderson, Dobbins, J. Williams, Quarles
I'm probably most open to criticism here because I certainly chose youth and potential over established veterans, but with Pierce and Hayes anchoring my LB corps, and with Gaither and Anderson already figuring to hold good starting jobs in 2007, I've got four starting quality LB's. Brooks is very much in the mix to get the coveted MLB position in Cincy, and Jamar Williams is coming off an injury but is in the running to replace Briggs if he leaves. Dobbins is good enough to start on occasion to fill in on bye weeks and due to injury. Quarles, if he doesn't retire, will have a shot once again to start at MLB in Tampa for one more year.
CB - Mathis, McFadden, Dyson, Dendy, Herndon
A little deeper thana I wanted (see above) but I have good quality here. Mathis is a bona fide CB1 in any fantasy league, and McFadden won the starting job in Pittsburgh at the end of last season and will if anything be more valuable as a Cover-2 CB. Dyson, Dendy and Herndon provide good depth.
S - A. Wilson, N. Collins, Milloy, J. Sanders, S. Knight
I'm very happy with my safety corps. Wilson is the hands-down S1 in fantasy. Collins is a borderline S1 in this league and is very young, and Sanders is the heir apparent to Rodney Harrison's job in NE. Milloy and Knight provide nice insurance.
Overall, this is a team that should be competitive for the next several years as Bulger and Tomlinson and my DE's remain in their prime, and hopefully beyond that if I draft, sign and trade well and as my LB's and WR's develop. I'm looking forward to starting the season.
43.01(673) Laboy, Travis - Again, I'm drafting depth and Laboy is a decent young DE prospect who happens to start at the valued RDE position.
44.16(704) Dendy, Patrick - He put up great numbers at the end of the year, so I'm hoping that that's a sign of things to come. He's also young.
45.01(705) Herndon, Kelly - No, I didn't want two CB's (my 4th and 5th) to round out my draft, but thanks to the vagaries of predrafting that's how it played out. Certainly not a disaster, but not the way I wanted to end the draft.
My current roster:
QB - Bulger, Carr, S. Wallace, I. Martin, Frerotte
I feel good about this position, although the lack of an established backup concerns me for 2007. Hopefully Carr can land a starting job somewhere. In the meantime, Bulger should put up impressive numbers in this scoring format.
RB - Tomlinson, L. White, C. Brown, C. Houston, A. Thomas, A. Harris
It's pretty easy to look like a genius when you have Tomlinson on your team, but that can be as much of a curse as a blessing. This is a league whose scoring deemphasizes RB's relative to other positions, so by being "obligated" to draft a RB early at 1.01 I was watching a lot of very talented WR's and TE's drop off the board before I could really build my team. I like what I did in drafting backups though. Between White, Brown, Houston and maybe Thomas, I should be able to find a decent RB2 week to week, and the first two (and perhaps, but less likely, Houston) may even end up as starting RB's for their teams. Harris ended up being a wasted pick given the Tatum Bell trade - oh well.
WR - Colston, Burress, Henry, Randle El, Baskett, J. Porter, Hilliard
They're deep, talented and young, and with the exception of Burress and Hilliard have probably not shown us their potential yet.
TE - Scheffler, Graham, Wiggins
I like this group. All three will probably be the primary pass-catching TE's for their teams which is great, and Scheffler's end of last season showed some amazing potential with Cutler. I needed good depth here given my shaky RB2 situation and the potential need for starting 2 TE's instead of 2 RB's, especially given the added weight given to TE scoring, and I feel like I was successful in getting that.
K - Kaeding
It's a kicker for a high scoring team, and he's young, has a strong, accurate leg, and he plays in good weather. What do you want?
DT - J. Williams, Myers
I have two quality guys here who will hold the line for me. They're average, and that's fine. I'm going to be playing four LB's and one DT, rather than three and two.
DE - Peppers, Suggs, Dumervil, Laboy
I love Peppers and Suggs. That tandem could dominate for me at DE for the next five years. Dumervil and Laboy are young and have enough talent to be adequate spot starters for me on bye weeks or due to injury.
LB - Pierce, Hayes, Gaither, A. Brooks, J. Anderson, Dobbins, J. Williams, Quarles
I'm probably most open to criticism here because I certainly chose youth and potential over established veterans, but with Pierce and Hayes anchoring my LB corps, and with Gaither and Anderson already figuring to hold good starting jobs in 2007, I've got four starting quality LB's. Brooks is very much in the mix to get the coveted MLB position in Cincy, and Jamar Williams is coming off an injury but is in the running to replace Briggs if he leaves. Dobbins is good enough to start on occasion to fill in on bye weeks and due to injury. Quarles, if he doesn't retire, will have a shot once again to start at MLB in Tampa for one more year.
CB - Mathis, McFadden, Dyson, Dendy, Herndon
A little deeper thana I wanted (see above) but I have good quality here. Mathis is a bona fide CB1 in any fantasy league, and McFadden won the starting job in Pittsburgh at the end of last season and will if anything be more valuable as a Cover-2 CB. Dyson, Dendy and Herndon provide good depth.
S - A. Wilson, N. Collins, Milloy, J. Sanders, S. Knight
I'm very happy with my safety corps. Wilson is the hands-down S1 in fantasy. Collins is a borderline S1 in this league and is very young, and Sanders is the heir apparent to Rodney Harrison's job in NE. Milloy and Knight provide nice insurance.
Overall, this is a team that should be competitive for the next several years as Bulger and Tomlinson and my DE's remain in their prime, and hopefully beyond that if I draft, sign and trade well and as my LB's and WR's develop. I'm looking forward to starting the season.
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I'll breakdown my team in a few minutes - posting a new article on NFLDraftguys right now.
QB
Brady, Tom NEP QB 5.02Cassel, Matt NEP QB 25.06Culpepper, Daunte MIA QB (I) 12.13Lemon, Cleo MIA QB 27.06The plan here was to wait and have something like Aaron's combo (Losman and Kitna). Vet Qbs on their last leg are always way undervalued in initial dynasty drafts. Brady falling to 5.02 just messed up my plans. I mean, Brady is the kind of QB that you plug in every week and "fuggedaboutit". He's undervalued right now because of the slow start with the new receivers. You saw Brady humming by the end of the year with retreads like Gaffney and Caldwell. Culpepper was still there when my clump in the 12th came up, and i compiled a clump of 4 picks exactly so I could feel free to spend one on a lottery ticket like Culpepper. Lemon and Cassel are both among the most talented QBs not starting, so I was happy to grab future upside and likely backups in one swoop. I advocate minimal QB, but Brady was too good to pass up.next: RBs
Brady, Tom NEP QB 5.02Cassel, Matt NEP QB 25.06Culpepper, Daunte MIA QB (I) 12.13Lemon, Cleo MIA QB 27.06The plan here was to wait and have something like Aaron's combo (Losman and Kitna). Vet Qbs on their last leg are always way undervalued in initial dynasty drafts. Brady falling to 5.02 just messed up my plans. I mean, Brady is the kind of QB that you plug in every week and "fuggedaboutit". He's undervalued right now because of the slow start with the new receivers. You saw Brady humming by the end of the year with retreads like Gaffney and Caldwell. Culpepper was still there when my clump in the 12th came up, and i compiled a clump of 4 picks exactly so I could feel free to spend one on a lottery ticket like Culpepper. Lemon and Cassel are both among the most talented QBs not starting, so I was happy to grab future upside and likely backups in one swoop. I advocate minimal QB, but Brady was too good to pass up.next: RBs
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RB
Anderson, Mike BAL RB 44.11Johnson, Larry KCC RB 1.02Perry, Chris CIN RB (I) 15.06Robinson, Michael SFO RB (R) 22.11Taylor, Chris HOU RB (R) 34.11Williams, Ricky FA RB 20.11
The rest of the RBs I took are lottery tickets. Obviously talent/upside is my guiding principle here, with situation being in the background. My take on this ragtag bunch: I can see Anderson beating out a returning Lewis, but I doubt that Lewis will be the only competition. I can see Taylor having a horse in the race for Houston RB if they don't draft a Peterson. Ricky could easily get a shot somewhere like Denver if he's on the trading block, and he honestly looked better than Ronnie Brown when they were both in the same backfield. Perry is purely based on the talent he displayed in the 3rd down RB role and at Michigan. He might be permanent damaged goods, but if he's not he'll get a shot in the next few years. Michael Robinson still has plenty of latent upside as a QB to RB convert, and Gore is destined to get hurt, like Bob Sanders, he just plays so hard that injuries are unavoidable - I would still love to have Gore, I just think injury opportunity for his backup is there. If I can get even 2 or 3 RB/TE flex games from this group this year, and have one of these guys hit for a 6-8 game stretch in the future. I think that's good return on the picks.
Anderson, Mike BAL RB 44.11Johnson, Larry KCC RB 1.02Perry, Chris CIN RB (I) 15.06Robinson, Michael SFO RB (R) 22.11Taylor, Chris HOU RB (R) 34.11Williams, Ricky FA RB 20.11
When I didn't draw 1.01 in the draft, I made it my first priority to get to 1.02 to get Larry Johnson. I advocate the "supergiant RB" theory in leagues like this one. Right now, I see LJ as the 2nd most desirable RB to build around after LT. I gave up relatively small bumps (late 2nd to early 3rd, 5th to late 7th were the biggest) to move up from 1.06 (would have been Bush) to 1.02. If this was a full PPR instead of .5 PPR for RBs, i would have considered staying home and taking Bush/Gore. Other than that, I did not want to (and did not have the opportunity) to invest other premium picks in RBs. RB value is so mercurial that I don't really like investing initial picks in guys unless they are on the upside or their career. That being said, I would have considered MBIII and Turner at 5.02, but didnt have the chance. I would have considered Thomas Jones at my clump in the 7th, but i didnt have the chance. I dont mind having a vacancy at RB2. In a similar league to this one, I have traded for Mike Anderson in 05 and Warrick Dunn in 06, and been fine at RB/TE flex. Ill probably pursue a similar plan in red dog.
The rest of the RBs I took are lottery tickets. Obviously talent/upside is my guiding principle here, with situation being in the background. My take on this ragtag bunch: I can see Anderson beating out a returning Lewis, but I doubt that Lewis will be the only competition. I can see Taylor having a horse in the race for Houston RB if they don't draft a Peterson. Ricky could easily get a shot somewhere like Denver if he's on the trading block, and he honestly looked better than Ronnie Brown when they were both in the same backfield. Perry is purely based on the talent he displayed in the 3rd down RB role and at Michigan. He might be permanent damaged goods, but if he's not he'll get a shot in the next few years. Michael Robinson still has plenty of latent upside as a QB to RB convert, and Gore is destined to get hurt, like Bob Sanders, he just plays so hard that injuries are unavoidable - I would still love to have Gore, I just think injury opportunity for his backup is there. If I can get even 2 or 3 RB/TE flex games from this group this year, and have one of these guys hit for a 6-8 game stretch in the future. I think that's good return on the picks.
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redman
Footballguy
And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
Hey maybe you inspired the Broncos... life imitates drafts. Wiggins is an FA too, lets bring the Overton 3 together!And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
redman
Footballguy
If Shanny signs Wiggins I'm driving to Denver to shoot him.Hey maybe you inspired the Broncos... life imitates drafts. Wiggins is an FA too, lets bring the Overton 3 together!And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
KTM
Braaaaaaaaaap
Hey maybe you inspired the Broncos... life imitates drafts. Wiggins is an FA too, lets bring the Overton 3 together!And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I think you showed too much confidence in Scheffler's late season performance.As I said in my earlier post looking at your begining draft, the Scheffler pick was the only choice you made that I wasn't really sold on and thought you should have gone another direction.And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
All of your other early choices were solid however so you should still be in a very good situation despite this weakness at TE.
Warpig
Footballguy
Ok...I'm bored. I'll break down my thought process...though my thought process should be considered "Pay" material. 
QB - Brees, Simms, DJ Shockley, Jared Lorenzen
** I gave up my 4.06 and 5.16 to move up to 2.16 to take Brees. He was the 2nd highest scoring QB (after Peyton) in this format. He's only 28 I believe and is just hitting his prime.
When I picked Simms, I thought he had the better upside for what was left (C-Pep, Grossman, Frye, Kitna, Plummer, ..etc). I prefer potential over star names or older, deteriorating veterans. Though now, it seems like that may not have been the way to go since Gruden appears to be searching for a new QB.
Shockley could end up being Vick's successor..."could". He has a similar skillset but is more accurate. Schaub will be gone next year if not this year.
Lorenzen...meh. Potential. Cannon arm and deceptively quick and nimble for his size. He's the #2 behind Eli and I've heard the staff likes him.
RB - Maroney, C. Taylor, Rhodes, Fason, Ross
** Maroney reminds me of SJax1 (not SJax2). Quick and powerful. Good hands and decent blocker. I was actually targeting Addai but he went right before my pick. I'm happy with Maroney as well. He's only 22 years old.
C. Taylor was hand picked by Childress to be his guy. And he proved it even to a fault last year perhaps. Taylor is a dual threat in that he is a good receiver as well. I'm hoping that the O-line will gel this year and will be as dominant on the field as it is on paper. A veteran QB won't hurt either.
Rhodes was good value for where I got him in the draft. I'm not expecting too much out of him. If he signs somewhere to be a #1 then that is a bonus...but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe a decent bye week filler.
Fason if Taylor falters, Fason could pick it up. He's been experimented with as a goalline back and had moderate success. Still young and just needs a legitimate shot.
Cory Ross...who knows. He was my last pick and put up some great #'s at Nebraska. I decided I wanted on the midget RB bandwagon that appears to be sweeping the NFL (he's 5'6" 206 lbs). A poor man's MJD?
WR - Stallworth, Muhammed, Jenkins, Wilford, Copper, Obomanu, Mathis
** Stallworth was the last startable #1 WR left when I took him. He has star power if he could stay healthy.
Muhammed was my vet pick. He's still the reliable #1 in Chi-town.
Jenkins has great ability and potential and I'm hoping the new spread offense will improve his numbers. He may have been a bit of a reach, but like I said...potential.
Wilford was more of a homer pick. He's a good WR but he's not very fast. More of a posession guy. He does better with Lefty and Matt Jones is inconsistent and should be moved to TE if ya ask me.
Mathis is my kick returner...Oh...we don't start kick returners? Damn...that was a bad pick then. Actually, he's a burner and maybe, just maybe could be the #2 in Houston. OK...maybe #3 then. Potential.
Copper is at worst the #3 in NO and their spread offense. They put up lots of points and could be a good 1-2 punch for me with Brees.
Obomanu...I really don't know much about him but Pasquino convinced me to take him. Everything I've read about him has been positive. Maybe the next Colston?
TE - Heap, Troupe
** Heap was the #3 TE in this format and has averaged around 70 rcpts the last 5 years or so. McNair and Boller love him so either way it's a win win for me. At 1.5 points a pop...he's golden.
Troupe...we'll see. He has the ability and potential to be great, but he needs to earn the trust of Young.
LB - Kirk Morrison, EJ Henderson, Stephen Tulloch, Freddie Kieaho, David Thornton, Napoleon Harris, Dontarrious Thomas, Jordan Beck
I could have an extremely productive group of LB's here if everything works out as expected.
** Kirk Morrison is the MLB on a young and surprising defensive squad. They'll spend alot of time on the field due to the growing pains of their offense.
EJ Henderson had over 100 tackles last year from his OLB spot and may move to middle with the departure of Harris. Another young guy.
Stephen Tulloch takes over for the recently departed Sirmon. People have high hopes for this tackle machine. He may only be a 2 down backer though. We'll see.
Keiaho could be a clone of June. Another quick scat backer that can cover the whole field. Dungy seems to have faith in him so I'm expecting 100+ tackles from him for years to come.
Thornton is only 28 and had over 100 tackles from his OLB spot in Tennessee. Let's see, Thornton and Bulloch each had over 100 tackles but the MLB didn't? Looks like they covered up a weak spot. A solid veteran tackler.
Napoleon Harris is being wine and dined by teams like Tampa, Kansas City, and Miami. I'd love to see him in Tampa or KC as the MLB. He was highly regarded but seems to have had some trouble repeating his sophomore year numbers. He needs to be in the right system but he certainly has ability.
Dontarrious Thomas was a freak coming out of college but hasn't seen much time in the NFL. I wonder if it's psychological or system related? He should see more playing time with Harris gone. He may be the one that ends up playing MLB in Minny.
Jordan Beck - I love his measurables. He's a big guy and has playmaking ability. A foot injury has held him back and may have lost faith in himself since the staff has been hesitant to use him. I'm hoping for an emergence from him since Hartwell has been a bust. Beck is only 24 years old too! He was a late pick with upside.
DE - Schobel, Freeney, B. Thomas, Geathers, Tuck
** Schobel is self expanatory. Double digit sacks 3 of the last 4 years. He also has 2 good DE's that rotate in to keep him fresh. He turns 30 later this year but I should still get 2 more solid years from him.
Freeney slipped a lot I think due to his down year. He's young and motivated now that they won the "Big Game" (patent pending). He returned to his usual self during the playoffs so I'm hoping for him to pick up where he left off this year. Mathis on the other side should keep him from getting double teamed.
B. Thomas - This may have been a mistake. I didn't realize that he is actually an OLB on a 3-4 but shows as a DE on NFL.com. If they don't tinker too much with the defense, I don't see why he couldn't repeat 8+ sacks again.
Geathers...10 sacks! Are you kidding me? He's my 4th DE! Thanks for letting him fall to me guys! Another young guy that should produce for years to come.
Tuck was a late round pick for me with upside. Strahan has to retire soon and I expect Tuck to get more time this year if he has healed fully. Another athletic freak to add to my arsenal.
CB - Spencer, Jackson, Foxworth, Vasher, Williams, Cromartie
** I never wanted 6 CB's really I didn't...it just so happens that Jackson MIGHT get moved to Safety, as well as Foxworth now that Bly is in town. Freakin' suxor!
Spencer recently signed a 5 year extension and has been solid.
Jackson has great measurables but is a bit of an unknown since no one knows what position he'll be playing at for sure next year. I like his potential.
Vasher was a pro-bowler two years ago and had 8 picks as a sophomore. He has a super supporting cast and should atleast maintain his productivity.
Williams was another college stud highly touted in the draft. Injuries set him back but I'm hoping he'll live up to his hype and should get picked on alot playing across from DeAngelo which means good tackle numbers and pick opportunities.
Foxworth - I have man love for Foxworth but he can't seem to get a starting chance in Denver. I made this pick assuming he'd be the corner across from Champ. Now that is Bly's job. I regret this pick now.
Cromartie is more of an insurance pick as well as a homer pick (GO 'NOLES!). Was drafted on his speed only pretty much since he didn't even play that much in college. He should be a starter in SD this year.
S - Schweigert, Page, Pool, Allen
** Schweigert is my kinda guy. He looks like a mormon but plays like a southern baptist. Was highly regarded coming out of Purdue and was considered the best safety in college. Solid play maker with great tackle numbers. I have him in several other leagues as well.
Page is soon to be the starting safety in KC. Solid playmaker that plays the entire field. I also own him in several leagues.
Pool is a guy I didn't know much about but from what I read he's pretty solid. Was versatile enough to play corner and didn't even start until a few games into the season. The fans and coaching staff seems to have warmed to him and hopefully he'll be a staple in their lineup.
Allen - I didn't know much about this guy either except that it must have sucked for him to have to cover for Jermaine Phillips. He's young and if Jermaine Phillips can stay a starter, I think he's safe.
Overall, I like my depth (except for QB and TE), but I always have the draft (which is my bread'n'butter thanks to KCBOB's rankings.)
QB - Brees, Simms, DJ Shockley, Jared Lorenzen
** I gave up my 4.06 and 5.16 to move up to 2.16 to take Brees. He was the 2nd highest scoring QB (after Peyton) in this format. He's only 28 I believe and is just hitting his prime.
When I picked Simms, I thought he had the better upside for what was left (C-Pep, Grossman, Frye, Kitna, Plummer, ..etc). I prefer potential over star names or older, deteriorating veterans. Though now, it seems like that may not have been the way to go since Gruden appears to be searching for a new QB.
Shockley could end up being Vick's successor..."could". He has a similar skillset but is more accurate. Schaub will be gone next year if not this year.
Lorenzen...meh. Potential. Cannon arm and deceptively quick and nimble for his size. He's the #2 behind Eli and I've heard the staff likes him.
RB - Maroney, C. Taylor, Rhodes, Fason, Ross
** Maroney reminds me of SJax1 (not SJax2). Quick and powerful. Good hands and decent blocker. I was actually targeting Addai but he went right before my pick. I'm happy with Maroney as well. He's only 22 years old.
C. Taylor was hand picked by Childress to be his guy. And he proved it even to a fault last year perhaps. Taylor is a dual threat in that he is a good receiver as well. I'm hoping that the O-line will gel this year and will be as dominant on the field as it is on paper. A veteran QB won't hurt either.
Rhodes was good value for where I got him in the draft. I'm not expecting too much out of him. If he signs somewhere to be a #1 then that is a bonus...but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe a decent bye week filler.
Fason if Taylor falters, Fason could pick it up. He's been experimented with as a goalline back and had moderate success. Still young and just needs a legitimate shot.
Cory Ross...who knows. He was my last pick and put up some great #'s at Nebraska. I decided I wanted on the midget RB bandwagon that appears to be sweeping the NFL (he's 5'6" 206 lbs). A poor man's MJD?
WR - Stallworth, Muhammed, Jenkins, Wilford, Copper, Obomanu, Mathis
** Stallworth was the last startable #1 WR left when I took him. He has star power if he could stay healthy.
Muhammed was my vet pick. He's still the reliable #1 in Chi-town.
Jenkins has great ability and potential and I'm hoping the new spread offense will improve his numbers. He may have been a bit of a reach, but like I said...potential.
Wilford was more of a homer pick. He's a good WR but he's not very fast. More of a posession guy. He does better with Lefty and Matt Jones is inconsistent and should be moved to TE if ya ask me.
Mathis is my kick returner...Oh...we don't start kick returners? Damn...that was a bad pick then. Actually, he's a burner and maybe, just maybe could be the #2 in Houston. OK...maybe #3 then. Potential.
Copper is at worst the #3 in NO and their spread offense. They put up lots of points and could be a good 1-2 punch for me with Brees.
Obomanu...I really don't know much about him but Pasquino convinced me to take him. Everything I've read about him has been positive. Maybe the next Colston?
TE - Heap, Troupe
** Heap was the #3 TE in this format and has averaged around 70 rcpts the last 5 years or so. McNair and Boller love him so either way it's a win win for me. At 1.5 points a pop...he's golden.
Troupe...we'll see. He has the ability and potential to be great, but he needs to earn the trust of Young.
LB - Kirk Morrison, EJ Henderson, Stephen Tulloch, Freddie Kieaho, David Thornton, Napoleon Harris, Dontarrious Thomas, Jordan Beck
I could have an extremely productive group of LB's here if everything works out as expected.
** Kirk Morrison is the MLB on a young and surprising defensive squad. They'll spend alot of time on the field due to the growing pains of their offense.
EJ Henderson had over 100 tackles last year from his OLB spot and may move to middle with the departure of Harris. Another young guy.
Stephen Tulloch takes over for the recently departed Sirmon. People have high hopes for this tackle machine. He may only be a 2 down backer though. We'll see.
Keiaho could be a clone of June. Another quick scat backer that can cover the whole field. Dungy seems to have faith in him so I'm expecting 100+ tackles from him for years to come.
Thornton is only 28 and had over 100 tackles from his OLB spot in Tennessee. Let's see, Thornton and Bulloch each had over 100 tackles but the MLB didn't? Looks like they covered up a weak spot. A solid veteran tackler.
Napoleon Harris is being wine and dined by teams like Tampa, Kansas City, and Miami. I'd love to see him in Tampa or KC as the MLB. He was highly regarded but seems to have had some trouble repeating his sophomore year numbers. He needs to be in the right system but he certainly has ability.
Dontarrious Thomas was a freak coming out of college but hasn't seen much time in the NFL. I wonder if it's psychological or system related? He should see more playing time with Harris gone. He may be the one that ends up playing MLB in Minny.
Jordan Beck - I love his measurables. He's a big guy and has playmaking ability. A foot injury has held him back and may have lost faith in himself since the staff has been hesitant to use him. I'm hoping for an emergence from him since Hartwell has been a bust. Beck is only 24 years old too! He was a late pick with upside.
DE - Schobel, Freeney, B. Thomas, Geathers, Tuck
** Schobel is self expanatory. Double digit sacks 3 of the last 4 years. He also has 2 good DE's that rotate in to keep him fresh. He turns 30 later this year but I should still get 2 more solid years from him.
Freeney slipped a lot I think due to his down year. He's young and motivated now that they won the "Big Game" (patent pending). He returned to his usual self during the playoffs so I'm hoping for him to pick up where he left off this year. Mathis on the other side should keep him from getting double teamed.
B. Thomas - This may have been a mistake. I didn't realize that he is actually an OLB on a 3-4 but shows as a DE on NFL.com. If they don't tinker too much with the defense, I don't see why he couldn't repeat 8+ sacks again.
Geathers...10 sacks! Are you kidding me? He's my 4th DE! Thanks for letting him fall to me guys! Another young guy that should produce for years to come.
Tuck was a late round pick for me with upside. Strahan has to retire soon and I expect Tuck to get more time this year if he has healed fully. Another athletic freak to add to my arsenal.
CB - Spencer, Jackson, Foxworth, Vasher, Williams, Cromartie
** I never wanted 6 CB's really I didn't...it just so happens that Jackson MIGHT get moved to Safety, as well as Foxworth now that Bly is in town. Freakin' suxor!
Spencer recently signed a 5 year extension and has been solid.
Jackson has great measurables but is a bit of an unknown since no one knows what position he'll be playing at for sure next year. I like his potential.
Vasher was a pro-bowler two years ago and had 8 picks as a sophomore. He has a super supporting cast and should atleast maintain his productivity.
Williams was another college stud highly touted in the draft. Injuries set him back but I'm hoping he'll live up to his hype and should get picked on alot playing across from DeAngelo which means good tackle numbers and pick opportunities.
Foxworth - I have man love for Foxworth but he can't seem to get a starting chance in Denver. I made this pick assuming he'd be the corner across from Champ. Now that is Bly's job. I regret this pick now.
Cromartie is more of an insurance pick as well as a homer pick (GO 'NOLES!). Was drafted on his speed only pretty much since he didn't even play that much in college. He should be a starter in SD this year.
S - Schweigert, Page, Pool, Allen
** Schweigert is my kinda guy. He looks like a mormon but plays like a southern baptist. Was highly regarded coming out of Purdue and was considered the best safety in college. Solid play maker with great tackle numbers. I have him in several other leagues as well.
Page is soon to be the starting safety in KC. Solid playmaker that plays the entire field. I also own him in several leagues.
Pool is a guy I didn't know much about but from what I read he's pretty solid. Was versatile enough to play corner and didn't even start until a few games into the season. The fans and coaching staff seems to have warmed to him and hopefully he'll be a staple in their lineup.
Allen - I didn't know much about this guy either except that it must have sucked for him to have to cover for Jermaine Phillips. He's young and if Jermaine Phillips can stay a starter, I think he's safe.
Overall, I like my depth (except for QB and TE), but I always have the draft (which is my bread'n'butter thanks to KCBOB's rankings.)
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You may well be right. I made the same mistake with a redraft team in 2003 going off of Jerramy Stevens' last six games the year before and paid all year long for that one too. He certainly was the riskiest pick of the TE's to that point in the draft. Meanwhile . . .Biabreakable said:I think you showed too much confidence in Scheffler's late season performance.As I said in my earlier post looking at your begining draft, the Scheffler pick was the only choice you made that I wasn't really sold on and thought you should have gone another direction.redman said:And then Graham signs with Denver to compete with Scheffler for receptions.
All of your other early choices were solid however so you should still be in a very good situation despite this weakness at TE.
So you're sayin' there's a chance! :(zadok said:
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Let's follow the herd...
I went into this knowing just about everyone would be looking to build the infamous "young and full of potential" squads. So I figured why not go against the grain and let them go after the young stars and take the old proven vets to make a run at winning 2007. Add in the fact that I'm an impatient person and tend to sell off the young kids too early I felt I should just go for the gusto.
I'm a heavy trader at heart. When I saw this league starting to make trade not a week into us all logging on to the site I knew I was in the right place.
I went into this knowing just about everyone would be looking to build the infamous "young and full of potential" squads. So I figured why not go against the grain and let them go after the young stars and take the old proven vets to make a run at winning 2007. Add in the fact that I'm an impatient person and tend to sell off the young kids too early I felt I should just go for the gusto.
I'm a heavy trader at heart. When I saw this league starting to make trade not a week into us all logging on to the site I knew I was in the right place.
Although I'm a big fan of Calvin, I wanted to stick to the plan and use the rookies as bargaining chips to climb the vet ladder. Gaining 21 slots for a 3 slot drop was worth it.
Again, using my rookies to gain in the vet. Another 20 slot increase to drop 8 spots (where I think after 1.03r the drop in value is pretty small) fits perfectly. This gave me 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
I hit the motherload. This was actually offered to me, and couldn't believe it. To have an outright stud RB in a 16 team league is a huge advantage. I wanted to trade up in the 1st all along but wasn't ready to do so. Having this fall right into my lap was a nice surprise.
The draft started and I thought after 1.06 Peyton was gonna be taken. After it got to 1.08 and he was still there I started slinging offers left and right to try and get him. By 1.14 I finally got him.Here's how I ended up. Overall I'm really happy with how it turned out. I missed out on a few IDP's that I let slip too long.
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My turn....
I made toooo many trades to comment on each one...
Here are some of the bigger deals..
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 24.03
Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13
Will Grant gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.16;Year 2006 Draft Pick 10.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.01
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 9.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.03
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 19.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.02
Chris Overton gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 30.16;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.01
On draft day...
Nick Chadick gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.10;Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.15
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 1.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 14.06
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.07
Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.02;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.02
Comments: Carlos also receives Brian's 2008 1st round rookie pick
QB
Roethlisberger, Ben
Garcia, Jeff TBB
Batch, Charlie PIT
Rodgers, Aaron GBP
-I addressed my QB spot at 5.15 with Big Ben, at that point my other choices were Eli, Hassleback or Kitna. I went with the younger player. I feel Ben is WAY underrated. He came off a injury riddled year, and despite not getting into full swing until week 4 he still put up QB11 #'s. I see him as a potential QB6-QB10. So I was very satisfied with this selection.
-Garcia was taken as a flier (23.13) hoping he could latch on to a good situation and maybe start for the 07 season. He ends up in TB, I think Plummer will be a non factor, Simms never really impressed me. I think I landed my (backup) starter for 2007.
-Rodgers was actually taken also in the 23rd about 10 picks before Garcia, at this point I am just hoping for a 2008 starter.
-Batch for the obvious reason, he was taken in the 41st, he filled in decently for Ben, a serviceable handcuff IMO
RB
Williams, Carnell TBB
Green, Ahman HOU
Jacobs, Brandon NYG
Bell, Mike DEN
Bennett, Michael KCC
Dillon, Corey
-Caddy was my 1st selection at the 2.3 spot. After having traded away the 1.14 for 2 3rd RDers. I passed up on the likes of Mcgahee, Chester, Holt or Gates. I am in the camp that Caddy is still very young, and has alot of potential as showed in his rookie season.
-Brandon Jacobs was my 1st real reach, seeing him as the potential starter in NY I could not pass on him anymore so I took him at 7.10 (106). Even if/when NY brings someone to share the load, I feel BJ (no pun intended) will at the least be the main target at the goal line and I feel he showed flashes last season that he could be more than just a GL back
-Ahman Green at 9.10 was my 3rd back. At this stage I could continue filling up IDP, but chose not to as the top tiers of LB had already been skimmed thru, I went against my grain of always trying to go for the GOLD and land the next big young stud. I took a guy that has a shot to be a serviceable back to me for the next 1-3 years or potential trade bait, if I am out of the playoff race.
-Mike Bell 11.9 could be a waste, could be a star, at this point most people are filling in IDP's and taking chances on WR's I decided to throw my hat into the DEN running game. Now TBell is gone Mbell picks looks better, even though I know they wil bring in another RB via the draft or FA, I mainly made this pick because I saw TBell go earlier, so I figured the better running back (MBell) was still out there and well worth the risk.
Corey Dillon at 15.14 3 days BEFORE he claims he wants to retire. Oh well, went with the same kind of thinking with as I did with AGreen, at this point I could only hope Dillon signs on somewhere.
-Bennett at 22.03 was a flier. My grandma once ran for 156 yards in a scrimmage in the KC system, so I figured if LJ goes down I could be in the money.
WR
Johnson, Chad
Ward, Hines PIT
Horn, Joe
Johnson, Bryant ARZ
White, Roddy ATL
Anderson, David HOU
Hass, Mike CHI
Morant, Johnnie
Orr, Jonathan
Washington, Kelley
-Chad Johnson was my 2.4 pick. Fitz and SSmith were off the board, I could have gone with Holt, or as I usually have in my FF past, another RB which would have been Mcgahee or Chester. I decided to go with Chad he is in his prime, and in a good young O. I expect top 5 results.
-Wards was my 3rd pick in 3.10, I was not SOLD on anyone here and I actually was hoping TJ fell to me, as I would have nabbed him to start along side Chad. TJ was taken a few picks earlier so I went with Ward, as I feel he aslo is in his prime, and coming off a bad year, but way under valued IMO.
-Bryant Johnson was actually my 3rd WR taken at the 14.03 (211) spot. He is still young, could go elsewhere next year, and if anything happens to Fitz or Boldin he is in a good situation. Good upside here.
-Joe Horn at 17.11, basially what I felt a a BPA, I feel he still has a year or 2 still in him. He was WR 49 despite missing 6 games. I like the upside here.
-Roddy White at 18.06, went wit hupside, I know he is in the black hole for WR's but I still think he could be a viable starter. The others are just young WR fliers, if 1 of them start more then 5 games I will call that a plus considering they were all taken at the 40+ RD's
TE
Gonzalez, Tony KCC
Heiden, Steve CLE
Gonzo was taken at 3.15, this was abit tricky for me, I could have gone with another WR (Edwards, Plaxico) or another RB (Deuce, Benson) Being the TE position is very valuable I felt I had to address this position now. My choices were Gonzo, Shockey, Crumpler. Shockey is younger, but I think Gonzo still has 1-3 years of top 6 TE in him. He is still a GREAT red zone target, and with no other big time WR in KC, I went with the Gonzo
-Hedien at 26.13 I think has good value with KWII and all his injury concerns. Heiden was serviceable 2 years ago when Winslow was out for the year, so I think his potential is good.
PK
Mare, Olindo MIA
Tynes, Lawrence KCC
BLAH-I take em cause I have too...
IDP...Here is where I need help on.
It's my weakness, and I need to improve on it.
DT
Pickett, Ryan GBP
Robbins, Fred NYG
Young, Brian NOS
DE
Green, Jarvis NEP
Pryce, Trevor BAL
Taylor, Jason MIA
Taylor was my 1st IDP taken at 7.14, he was the highest scoring IDP last year, so I went with what seems to be a solid pick.
LB
Boley, Michael ATL
Draft, Chris CAR
Foote, Larry PIT
Haggans, Clark PIT
Nece, Ryan TBB
Short, Brandon NYG
Thomas, Adalius BAL
Williams, Demorrio ATL
LB's are the obvious premium in this scoring format. So Me, not knowing my IDP's as much, I just started going with several LB's Adalius was my 1st at 8.6, I think khe was the best LB available, the next LB's taken were 20 picks later (June, Witherspoon) Draft, basically score well last year, I am hoping for solid #'s.
I took both Pitt LB, expecting Porter to be a cap casualty, and maybe one if them could move into being a good LB. Demorrio was young, showed some good athleticism, and I think has good upside.
CB
Williams, Sam OAK
Bailey, Champ DEN
Harris, Walt SFO
Smoot, Fred WAS
Bell, Yeremiah MIA
I took Champ at 8.03, a mistake in hind sight. I could have waited VERY Long for a CB, but my logic was do I take the a mid tier IDP at another position, or go with the best CB, so instead of going mid-tier I went with the best CB, what I would have liked to do here in hind sight was to tave taken Kitna to start/compete with Big Ben for my top QB spot
S
Brown, C.C. HOU
Chavous, Corey STL
Thompson, Lamont TEN
ROOKIE PICKS
1.02
2.04
3.02
3.03
3.13
4.14
5.03
(also own Brians 1st RD pick in 2008 draft)
I made toooo many trades to comment on each one...
Here are some of the bigger deals..
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 24.03
Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13
Will Grant gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.16;Year 2006 Draft Pick 10.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.01
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 9.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.03
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 19.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.02
Chris Overton gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 30.16;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.01
On draft day...
Nick Chadick gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.10;Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.15
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 1.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 14.06
Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.07
Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.02;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.02
Comments: Carlos also receives Brian's 2008 1st round rookie pick
QB
Roethlisberger, Ben
Garcia, Jeff TBB
Batch, Charlie PIT
Rodgers, Aaron GBP
-I addressed my QB spot at 5.15 with Big Ben, at that point my other choices were Eli, Hassleback or Kitna. I went with the younger player. I feel Ben is WAY underrated. He came off a injury riddled year, and despite not getting into full swing until week 4 he still put up QB11 #'s. I see him as a potential QB6-QB10. So I was very satisfied with this selection.
-Garcia was taken as a flier (23.13) hoping he could latch on to a good situation and maybe start for the 07 season. He ends up in TB, I think Plummer will be a non factor, Simms never really impressed me. I think I landed my (backup) starter for 2007.
-Rodgers was actually taken also in the 23rd about 10 picks before Garcia, at this point I am just hoping for a 2008 starter.
-Batch for the obvious reason, he was taken in the 41st, he filled in decently for Ben, a serviceable handcuff IMO
RB
Williams, Carnell TBB
Green, Ahman HOU
Jacobs, Brandon NYG
Bell, Mike DEN
Bennett, Michael KCC
Dillon, Corey
-Caddy was my 1st selection at the 2.3 spot. After having traded away the 1.14 for 2 3rd RDers. I passed up on the likes of Mcgahee, Chester, Holt or Gates. I am in the camp that Caddy is still very young, and has alot of potential as showed in his rookie season.
-Brandon Jacobs was my 1st real reach, seeing him as the potential starter in NY I could not pass on him anymore so I took him at 7.10 (106). Even if/when NY brings someone to share the load, I feel BJ (no pun intended) will at the least be the main target at the goal line and I feel he showed flashes last season that he could be more than just a GL back
-Ahman Green at 9.10 was my 3rd back. At this stage I could continue filling up IDP, but chose not to as the top tiers of LB had already been skimmed thru, I went against my grain of always trying to go for the GOLD and land the next big young stud. I took a guy that has a shot to be a serviceable back to me for the next 1-3 years or potential trade bait, if I am out of the playoff race.
-Mike Bell 11.9 could be a waste, could be a star, at this point most people are filling in IDP's and taking chances on WR's I decided to throw my hat into the DEN running game. Now TBell is gone Mbell picks looks better, even though I know they wil bring in another RB via the draft or FA, I mainly made this pick because I saw TBell go earlier, so I figured the better running back (MBell) was still out there and well worth the risk.
Corey Dillon at 15.14 3 days BEFORE he claims he wants to retire. Oh well, went with the same kind of thinking with as I did with AGreen, at this point I could only hope Dillon signs on somewhere.
-Bennett at 22.03 was a flier. My grandma once ran for 156 yards in a scrimmage in the KC system, so I figured if LJ goes down I could be in the money.
WR
Johnson, Chad
Ward, Hines PIT
Horn, Joe
Johnson, Bryant ARZ
White, Roddy ATL
Anderson, David HOU
Hass, Mike CHI
Morant, Johnnie
Orr, Jonathan
Washington, Kelley
-Chad Johnson was my 2.4 pick. Fitz and SSmith were off the board, I could have gone with Holt, or as I usually have in my FF past, another RB which would have been Mcgahee or Chester. I decided to go with Chad he is in his prime, and in a good young O. I expect top 5 results.
-Wards was my 3rd pick in 3.10, I was not SOLD on anyone here and I actually was hoping TJ fell to me, as I would have nabbed him to start along side Chad. TJ was taken a few picks earlier so I went with Ward, as I feel he aslo is in his prime, and coming off a bad year, but way under valued IMO.
-Bryant Johnson was actually my 3rd WR taken at the 14.03 (211) spot. He is still young, could go elsewhere next year, and if anything happens to Fitz or Boldin he is in a good situation. Good upside here.
-Joe Horn at 17.11, basially what I felt a a BPA, I feel he still has a year or 2 still in him. He was WR 49 despite missing 6 games. I like the upside here.
-Roddy White at 18.06, went wit hupside, I know he is in the black hole for WR's but I still think he could be a viable starter. The others are just young WR fliers, if 1 of them start more then 5 games I will call that a plus considering they were all taken at the 40+ RD's
TE
Gonzalez, Tony KCC
Heiden, Steve CLE
Gonzo was taken at 3.15, this was abit tricky for me, I could have gone with another WR (Edwards, Plaxico) or another RB (Deuce, Benson) Being the TE position is very valuable I felt I had to address this position now. My choices were Gonzo, Shockey, Crumpler. Shockey is younger, but I think Gonzo still has 1-3 years of top 6 TE in him. He is still a GREAT red zone target, and with no other big time WR in KC, I went with the Gonzo
-Hedien at 26.13 I think has good value with KWII and all his injury concerns. Heiden was serviceable 2 years ago when Winslow was out for the year, so I think his potential is good.
PK
Mare, Olindo MIA
Tynes, Lawrence KCC
BLAH-I take em cause I have too...
IDP...Here is where I need help on.
It's my weakness, and I need to improve on it.
DT
Pickett, Ryan GBP
Robbins, Fred NYG
Young, Brian NOS
DE
Green, Jarvis NEP
Pryce, Trevor BAL
Taylor, Jason MIA
Taylor was my 1st IDP taken at 7.14, he was the highest scoring IDP last year, so I went with what seems to be a solid pick.
LB
Boley, Michael ATL
Draft, Chris CAR
Foote, Larry PIT
Haggans, Clark PIT
Nece, Ryan TBB
Short, Brandon NYG
Thomas, Adalius BAL
Williams, Demorrio ATL
LB's are the obvious premium in this scoring format. So Me, not knowing my IDP's as much, I just started going with several LB's Adalius was my 1st at 8.6, I think khe was the best LB available, the next LB's taken were 20 picks later (June, Witherspoon) Draft, basically score well last year, I am hoping for solid #'s.
I took both Pitt LB, expecting Porter to be a cap casualty, and maybe one if them could move into being a good LB. Demorrio was young, showed some good athleticism, and I think has good upside.
CB
Williams, Sam OAK
Bailey, Champ DEN
Harris, Walt SFO
Smoot, Fred WAS
Bell, Yeremiah MIA
I took Champ at 8.03, a mistake in hind sight. I could have waited VERY Long for a CB, but my logic was do I take the a mid tier IDP at another position, or go with the best CB, so instead of going mid-tier I went with the best CB, what I would have liked to do here in hind sight was to tave taken Kitna to start/compete with Big Ben for my top QB spot
S
Brown, C.C. HOU
Chavous, Corey STL
Thompson, Lamont TEN
ROOKIE PICKS
1.02
2.04
3.02
3.03
3.13
4.14
5.03
(also own Brians 1st RD pick in 2008 draft)
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Quick comments on Faletti's draft/team on the offensive side of the ball. He appears to be the big winner with the FA RB news over the past 2 days of Thomas Jones going to the Jets, Travis Henry going to the Bronco's, & Ahman Green signing with Houston, which gives Morency a shot at being the starting back in GB. For at least this year, Marc has a very great chance of winning the championship with his late RB picks, especially the Henry pick at 6.14.
I felt he reached taking Vince Young at 2.14.....bit too high for my liking to take a QB not named Peyton Manning. T.Henry in Denver & Thomas Jones added to Vince Young and the best trio of WR's in the league (Steve Smith, Fitz, & Holt) is very impressive.
Marc Faletti
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Huard, Damon KCC QB 133.10 3 32.14
Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 221.50 9 15.03
Rattay, Tim TBB QB 51.80 4 35.03
Whitehurst, Charlie SDC QB ® 7.40 3 27.03
Young, Vince TEN QB ® 229.25 7 2.14
Betts, Ladell WAS RB 222.60 8 9.03
Dayne, Ron HOU RB 109.90 5 25.03
Fargas, Justin OAK RB 88.30 3 19.03
Henry, Travis TEN RB 193.90 7 6.14
Jones, Thomas CHI RB 198.40 7 7.03
Morency, Vernand GBP RB 75.70 6 13.03
Carter, Tim NYG WR 63.30 4 24.14
Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 202.60 9 1.15
Galloway, Joey TBB WR 222.60 4 10.14
Givens, David TEN WR (I) 18.70 7 22.14
Holt, Torry STL WR 279.80 7 2.07
McDonald, Shaun STL WR 30.60 7 23.03
Smith, Brad NYJ WR ® 27.20 9 18.14
Smith, Steve CAR WR 272.70 9 2.02
Anderson, Courtney OAK TE 84.00 3 26.14
Mangum, Kris CAR TE 54.50 9 38.14
Manumaleuna, Brandon SDC TE 48.20 3 43.03
Miller, Heath PIT TE 126.30 4 8.14
Smith, Alex TBB TE 95.50 4 11.03
I felt he reached taking Vince Young at 2.14.....bit too high for my liking to take a QB not named Peyton Manning. T.Henry in Denver & Thomas Jones added to Vince Young and the best trio of WR's in the league (Steve Smith, Fitz, & Holt) is very impressive.
Marc Faletti
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Huard, Damon KCC QB 133.10 3 32.14
Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 221.50 9 15.03
Rattay, Tim TBB QB 51.80 4 35.03
Whitehurst, Charlie SDC QB ® 7.40 3 27.03
Young, Vince TEN QB ® 229.25 7 2.14
Betts, Ladell WAS RB 222.60 8 9.03
Dayne, Ron HOU RB 109.90 5 25.03
Fargas, Justin OAK RB 88.30 3 19.03
Henry, Travis TEN RB 193.90 7 6.14
Jones, Thomas CHI RB 198.40 7 7.03
Morency, Vernand GBP RB 75.70 6 13.03
Carter, Tim NYG WR 63.30 4 24.14
Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 202.60 9 1.15
Galloway, Joey TBB WR 222.60 4 10.14
Givens, David TEN WR (I) 18.70 7 22.14
Holt, Torry STL WR 279.80 7 2.07
McDonald, Shaun STL WR 30.60 7 23.03
Smith, Brad NYJ WR ® 27.20 9 18.14
Smith, Steve CAR WR 272.70 9 2.02
Anderson, Courtney OAK TE 84.00 3 26.14
Mangum, Kris CAR TE 54.50 9 38.14
Manumaleuna, Brandon SDC TE 48.20 3 43.03
Miller, Heath PIT TE 126.30 4 8.14
Smith, Alex TBB TE 95.50 4 11.03
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
While I agree with Henry news, I expect TJones' numbers to actually decline. The Jets are enamored with the RBBC approach, so I don't think you'll see TJones with the same number of touches as last year (even on a per game basis). If you'll recall, Jones was questioned throughout the year, in particular during the beginning of '06.He also averaged less than 4YPC in 8 of 16 games last season.Lastly, Morency has to be encouraged, but all signs point towards a new rookie RB in GB this year.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Rookie draft will start after the NFL Draft.Brian is very impatient so, it may start after Day 1 of the NFL Draft
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Personally, I think we should just have the rookie draft now
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
i tentatively set it for the tuesday after the draft, but i'm open to ideas
Warpig
Footballguy
Cheater!Not until I get Bob's rankings!Personally, I think we should just have the rookie draft now
KTM
Braaaaaaaaaap
Personally, I think we should just have the rookie draft now
:feedtheaddiction:
redman
Footballguy
Pretty ironic: I went from having drafted a couple of good TE's in order to compensate for a weak RB2 spot (so I could start two TE's and one RB if I desired), to having three pretty good starting candidates at RB and potentially a very mediocre TE corps. 
Pretty Good starting candidates? C.Brown?
Pretty ironic: I went from having drafted a couple of good TE's in order to compensate for a weak RB2 spot (so I could start two TE's and one RB if I desired), to having three pretty good starting candidates at RB and potentially a very mediocre TE corps.
redman
Footballguy
Yes assuming the rumors about the Bills' intentions to trade McGahee are true.Pretty Good starting candidates? C.Brown?
Don't forget that Brown averaged an eye-popping 13.1 yards per catch the last year he started, which is especially valuable in our ppr league.
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When was that, 2000?Yes assuming the rumors about the Bills' intentions to trade McGahee are true.Pretty Good starting candidates? C.Brown?
Pretty ironic: I went from having drafted a couple of good TE's in order to compensate for a weak RB2 spot (so I could start two TE's and one RB if I desired), to having three pretty good starting candidates at RB and potentially a very mediocre TE corps.
redman
Footballguy
2005. I may start him against you just to let him light you up.When was that, 2000?Yes assuming the rumors about the Bills' intentions to trade McGahee are true.Pretty Good starting candidates? C.Brown?Pretty ironic: I went from having drafted a couple of good TE's in order to compensate for a weak RB2 spot (so I could start two TE's and one RB if I desired), to having three pretty good starting candidates at RB and potentially a very mediocre TE corps.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
i love your sig!
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
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redman
Footballguy
If you ask Jeff, he'll tell you how brilliant he was. I promise.Biabreakable said:I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Someone else bumped it and then I noticed your rationalizations.Thank goodness there is no experation date on things that can amuse me.5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
redman
Footballguy
Denial, in fact, gets better with age.Someone else bumped it and then I noticed your rationalizations.Thank goodness there is no experation date on things that can amuse me.5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
So Bia,Since you brought this up, I'd like to hear what you believe would be fair value for both sides (4/8 and the two 6s).Someone else bumped it and then I noticed your rationalizations.Thank goodness there is no experation date on things that can amuse me.5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Fair value is a very subjective thing.Perhaps the best measure of if a trade is fair value is if you would be willing to do either side of a trade.So for example: 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330)If this deal is pretty even in value then people would be willing to do either side of the deal I would think. Or one person would be willing to do this deal trading up or down based on thier personal goals at the time. In this case that is the price you established for moving up to pick 4.14 Total number of picks exchanged were even (3 picks for 3 picks). Late 4th for mid 6th evened out by giving mid 6th for early 8th then an additional upgrade for you in round 21 to even out the total number of slots exchanged.What I find to be ammusing and contraticory is that when you are trading down that you required a very different deal in order to do so. SayingSo Bia,Since you brought this up, I'd like to hear what you believe would be fair value for both sides (4/8 and the two 6s).Someone else bumped it and then I noticed your rationalizations.Thank goodness there is no experation date on things that can amuse me.5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
and
So when you are trading down (from almost exactly the same pick 4.15) you require a very different deal in order to have incentive to do so..4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 You trade late 4th (almost early 5th) for mid 6th + early 9th round pick and get a substantial rookie pick upgrade as well. Net 2 picks for 3.I am not taking issue with, nor am questioning the fairness of either deals value. What I find ammusing about this however is how different you percieve (or rationalize) the value of each deal (that involves VERY similar picks) depending on if you are trading up or trading down. Becuase you clearly would not do either of these deals if you were the other party involved.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
That's about the response I would have expected.Perception all depends on the person - that's why it is subjective, not objective.Trading is an art and a science. You could offer what you would personally believe is fair value or even more than fair value, but you cannot force the other party to accept the deal.As for the examples above, I would actually take either side of the deal regarding a 4th and an 8th for 2 6ths - if I felt I needed to move up to get whomever I wanted, I'd have sold two 6s to get to a 4th and be willing to back down to an 8th. Moreover, if I felt that I needed to get more starters sooner than others and that I wanted 7 players before many had 6, or even if I felt that after the 6th round that value plummeted, I would sell a 4th and an 8th for two 6s. Frankly I can't even remember which side of this deal I was on, I think I was moving up, because I targeted a player. The other team's incentive was that he was lacking in Top 6 round picks so it benefitted both sides.As for rationalizing, you'd be lying to yourself and everyone else if it isn't a part of your nature to rationalize each and every decision we make - WDIS, trades, picks, everything. If I am trading downward, I have a different rationale than if I'm moving up. I have to have incentive to make both maneuvers, but those incentives may not (and likely won't) be the same in either case.Fair value is a very subjective thing.Perhaps the best measure of if a trade is fair value is if you would be willing to do either side of a trade.So for example: 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330)If this deal is pretty even in value then people would be willing to do either side of the deal I would think. Or one person would be willing to do this deal trading up or down based on thier personal goals at the time. In this case that is the price you established for moving up to pick 4.14 Total number of picks exchanged were even (3 picks for 3 picks). Late 4th for mid 6th evened out by giving mid 6th for early 8th then an additional upgrade for you in round 21 to even out the total number of slots exchanged.What I find to be ammusing and contraticory is that when you are trading down that you required a very different deal in order to do so. SayingSo Bia,Since you brought this up, I'd like to hear what you believe would be fair value for both sides (4/8 and the two 6s).Someone else bumped it and then I noticed your rationalizations.Thank goodness there is no experation date on things that can amuse me.5 weeks between posts =I just find it pretty amusing that Jeff on one hand is calling 4.14(62) + 8.02(114) + 21.04(324) for 6.07(87) + 6.09(89) + 21.10(330) even money.Then on the other hand giving up 4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 was neccessary for the "priveledge" to move up.
andSo when you are trading down (from almost exactly the same pick 4.15) you require a very different deal in order to have incentive to do so..4.15(63) + rookie pick 1.13 for 6.07(87) + 9.02(130) + rookie pick 1.08 You trade late 4th (almost early 5th) for mid 6th + early 9th round pick and get a substantial rookie pick upgrade as well. Net 2 picks for 3.I am not taking issue with, nor am questioning the fairness of either deals value. What I find ammusing about this however is how different you percieve (or rationalize) the value of each deal (that involves VERY similar picks) depending on if you are trading up or trading down. Becuase you clearly would not do either of these deals if you were the other party involved.
redman
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dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
so long as i stay in the moura division, im willing to discuss it
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Riding the gravy train huh?How unmanly of you.so long as i stay in the moura division, im willing to discuss it
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
Riding the gravy train huh?How unmanly of you.so long as i stay in the moura division, im willing to discuss it
Ned
Footballguy
arent you the 1 with tatum bell as your top rb?Riding the gravy train huh?How unmanly of you.so long as i stay in the moura division, im willing to discuss it
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