Reggie Bush ain't gonna produce $%!@ this year (1 Viewer)

[fenwah]

FBGs has him projected to get about 900 yards on the ground with 5 TDs...and almost 500 yards receiving with 3 TDs. Do you think that this estimate is too low, about right, or too high? And, do you think that's good value at an average #2 overall pick in FF drafts?

 

[Double_J]

I don't give a damn if he only runs for 400 and 4 touchdowns. I've got him for one reason, catching balls. I think he's going to catch atleast 60 balls this year which is good enough for my rb3.

 

[Lehigh98]

Reggie Bush ain't gonna produce $%!@ this year

Constipated?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

At a minimum he touches the ball 10-15 times a game...200 touches for the season...at least 800-1,000 total yds. Wass taken 2nd in the draft and it wasn't to look at him on the sidelines I promise you...he might get more receiving than rushing yds...TDs? Hard to predict.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD). What are your thoughts?

Tell us why instead of fishing for crap.

 

[tangfoot]

I think he's going to catch atleast 60 balls this year

He's going to make 30 guys in the locker room VERY happy!

 

[doughboydeluxe]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD). What are your thoughts?

Tell us why instead of fishing for crap.

 

[gocats]

:IBTL:

 

[pantagrapher]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD).

You do make a convincing argument.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD). What are your thoughts?

 

[Texican]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD). What are your thoughts?

3 digiter

 

[Alias]

where are you getting an ADP of 18? It is more like 24-26 the past 1 to 3 weeks.

 

[fenwah]

where are you getting an ADP of 18? It is more like 24-26 the past 1 to 3 weeks.

Latest DD ADP is 2.09 based on a 12 team league

 

[Alias]

where are you getting an ADP of 18? It is more like 24-26 the past 1 to 3 weeks.

Latest DD ADP is 2.09

XpertSports lists his ADP as AVG: 25.99, and for 12-team: 2.9 (last I checked 12+9 = 21), if you look at last 1, 3, 4, 10 weeks, even the highest week they list there - you will not see anything lower then 24 which is odd, something about the average draft position and their conversion to x.xx format does not add up.

 

[jurb26]

Well, we haven't heard this before.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I say he gets about 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs (one of them a kickoff/punt return for a TD).

You do make a convincing argument.

 

[Warpig]

I'm sorry but I have to respectfully disagree. A healthy Bush will hopefully produce $%!@ atleast once a day. If he doesn't produce $%!@ all year, then I'd suggest he see a proctologist.

 

[hutchins929]

I had my leagues draft this afternoon... its a 12 team redraft...

Bush went 1.4 :X

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I had my leagues draft this afternoon... its a 12 team redraft...Bush went 1.4 :X

I've got the 16th pick in my redraft tomorrow.I may go with Bush if he is still opn the board.#4 is a bit high.

 

[faulkfan]

I think he's going to catch atleast 60 balls this year

He's going to make 30 guys in the locker room VERY happy!

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

He went 4.07 in my 10 team redraft league on Thursday. I thought that was a little low, but not much. I would have taken him at 4.08. I considered him, but passed, at 3.03.

 

[crimsonrebel]

I got him at 3.6 in a 14 team league sunday. Nice to know I didnt reach, which i thought i might have been just a little.

 

[jive miguel]

snagged him at 3.09 this weekend in a 10 team redraft. hoping he can catch a lot of passes.

 

[One]

He'll be a stud if you have him in PPR's

 

[mojorizin]

I'll be glad when he either lights it up, falls flat, or turns into an average football player so all this painful guesswork disappears until the next fast kid appears next season.

 

[EFD]

I have two questions:

1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?

2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?

Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

 

[gigantor]

See Thomas Jones/ Ced Benson last year..

 

[teamramrod]

How does this affect Reggie Bush's draft position?

 

[mojorizin]

See Thomas Jones/ Ced Benson last year..

Has Reggie Bush whined like a sissy, held out until this week, took himself out with a hangnail, and alienated every veteran on the club, too?

 

[kris]

Whoever wrote this thread was right on. FBGs wiffed on Bush. They sold out to the hype.

 

[fenwah]

Whoever wrote this thread was right on. FBGs wiffed on Bush. They sold out to the hype.

There are just so many questionmarks with him. I guess we'll just see how they use him this week. My guess is that he will probably get quite a bit of playing time...maybe have two backs in the backfield...short passes and/or screen passes to Bush. If he can get some speed going, then nobody's going to catch him. I hope he plays well...the city of New Orleans could use something to cheer about.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I know this has been said ad nauseum, but it is worth remembering that Bush didn't really run between the tackles much even in college. I am not saying that he can't do it, but simply that there is relatively little evidence, to this point, that he can.

On the other hand, I haven't seen too many running backs that catch the ball so effortlessly, both in the backfield and downfield. The kid doesn't just have good hands, he looks like a natural pass catcher. I think there is a really big difference between the two.

It goes without saying that he is absolutely electrifying in the open field. The problem is that it will be tougher to get him into space in the NFL than it was in college.

We'll see how New Orleans uses him.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Reggie Bush is going to be absolute money in PPR scoring format. He'll be Brian Westbrook but better. I think he will be a top 10 player in PPR leagues. In non-PPR he will probably not be as valuable this year.

 

[Das Boot]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

See Thomas Jones/ Ced Benson last year..

I forgot all about Thomas Jones blowing out his ACL!

 

[duaneok66]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

 

[Ozymandias]

Bush is listed as KR/PR. In leagues which give points for return yardage, he could be very good.

 

[duaneok66]

Bush is listed as KR/PR. In leagues which give points for return yardage, he could be very good.

for guys that spent a 2nd round pick on him, "could be" isn't sufficient . . .

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I think Sean Payton will figure out ways to get Reggie Bush in there...

I think Bush is one of the main reasons they determined they could trade Stallworth.

Those quick hitter slants that Stallworth used to drop will now be take to the house by Bush.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

I couldn't care less.I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.If you are, then don't take Bush.

 

[duaneok66]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

I couldn't care less.I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.If you are, then don't take Bush.

so by that reasoning, I should waste a 2nd round pick on someone that might get enough carries to warrant the pick??/Nice logic, I'd rather spend a 2nd on a proven guy that has to be the centerpiece of a fantasy team . . .

 

[duaneok66]

I think Sean Payton will figure out ways to get Reggie Bush in there...I think Bush is one of the main reasons they determined they could trade Stallworth.Those quick hitter slants that Stallworth used to drop will now be take to the house by Bush.

assuming he plays in the slot, which he rarely did in the preseason . . .

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I think Sean Payton will figure out ways to get Reggie Bush in there...I think Bush is one of the main reasons they determined they could trade Stallworth.Those quick hitter slants that Stallworth used to drop will now be take to the house by Bush.

assuming he plays in the slot, which he rarely did in the preseason . . .

LOL... preseason.The Rams #1 offense didn't score one TD this preseason. So I guess they'll suck.Ever hear of a RB going in motion?Payton has already said there will be some formations with both Deuce and Bush out on the field at the same time.

 

[Das Boot]

I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.

 

[duaneok66]

I think Sean Payton will figure out ways to get Reggie Bush in there...I think Bush is one of the main reasons they determined they could trade Stallworth.Those quick hitter slants that Stallworth used to drop will now be take to the house by Bush.

assuming he plays in the slot, which he rarely did in the preseason . . .

LOL... preseason.The Rams #1 offense didn't score one TD this preseason. So I guess they'll suck.Ever hear of a RB going in motion?Payton has already said there will be some formations with both Deuce and Bush out on the field at the same time.

yes, he also RARELY went in motion . . . and I didn't say how bad NO was, I commented onwhat Bush didnt do in the preseason . . . again, Deuce and Bush were rarely in the game at the same time . . .people are assuming something that hasn't yet happened . . . my point is that when you are basing a 2wnd round pick on assumption, you are taking a huge risk . . .

 

[duaneok66]

I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.

you can win your league without picking Bush . . .

 

[Keys Myaths]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

I couldn't care less.I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.If you are, then don't take Bush.

so by that reasoning, I should waste a 2nd round pick on someone that might get enough carries to warrant the pick??/Nice logic, I'd rather spend a 2nd on a proven guy that has to be the centerpiece of a fantasy team . . .

2nd round is way too early.I got him late third. I agree that people taking him in the second are nuts.

 

[duaneok66]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

I couldn't care less.I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.If you are, then don't take Bush.

so by that reasoning, I should waste a 2nd round pick on someone that might get enough carries to warrant the pick??/Nice logic, I'd rather spend a 2nd on a proven guy that has to be the centerpiece of a fantasy team . . .

2nd round is way too early.I got him late third. I agree that people taking him in the second are nuts.

I also agree that he is decent value in the 3rd . . . I just don't see him doing great this year as long as Deuce is in the lineup . . .

 

[Keys Myaths]

I have two questions:1. What are the odds that McAllister remains healthy all season long?2. What is Reggie Bush's value if McAllister goes down?Lots of upside here. Saying he "ain't gonna produce" seems ballsy to me.

The upside is the key to focus on.Lots of it here.

Don't forget about the downside . . . lots of it here . . .

I couldn't care less.I want to win my league, not finish a respectable 5th. I'm not afraid of finishing last.If you are, then don't take Bush.

so by that reasoning, I should waste a 2nd round pick on someone that might get enough carries to warrant the pick??/Nice logic, I'd rather spend a 2nd on a proven guy that has to be the centerpiece of a fantasy team . . .

2nd round is way too early.I got him late third. I agree that people taking him in the second are nuts.

I also agree that he is decent value in the 3rd . . . I just don't see him doing great this year as long as Deuce is in the lineup . . .

He'll do well enough in PPR leagues, and could explode.That's all I need.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Just because you haven't seen it in the pre-season doesn't mean that they aren't planning to do it. Certainly, you can make the argument that it makes more sense not to do it in pre-season, assuming the coaching staff is confident that Bush can produce in that role.

Of course, given that this is New Orleans we are talking about, it could just be that they are oblivious to Bush's talent as a receiver and/or can't think of creative ways to get him touches.