Reggie Bush might not enter 2006 NFL Draft (1 Viewer)

[stevec]

The look of every dynasty owner that has already overpaid to acquire the #1 rookie pick in their league, assuming Bush would be there = 

Sorry, I don't understand this statement. If they have the #1 overall pick, Bush WILL be there. If they wanted Bush they will get him. Even if he doesnt get drafted #1 overall in the NFL, it won't make him less valuable in FF.

If Bush doesn't come out, he's not there to pick.I find it very interesting and odd he doesn't want to go to Houston:

1. They were fairly decent before last year's collapse.

2. They have shown an ability to have RB get yards in both run & pass game.

3. Big city with marketing potential (guessing he's not anti big city since at USC)

 

[3nOut]

The look of every dynasty owner that has already overpaid to acquire the #1 rookie pick in their league, assuming Bush would be there = 

Sorry, I don't understand this statement. If they have the #1 overall pick, Bush WILL be there. If they wanted Bush they will get him. Even if he doesnt get drafted #1 overall in the NFL, it won't make him less valuable in FF.

I think the point you were responding to was merely suggesting that **IF** Bush does decide to remain at USC for a final year (as is contemplated by a decision being "far off"), those who paid dearly for rookie 1.1 assuming he's coming out would be hosed. I don't think SJ was suggesting Bush wouldn't be available if he comes out as expected. Obviously he'd be there at 1.1 if he does.

Gotcha...

 

[The Ref]

If he stays, he loses millions and likely wouldn't be the first RB taken in next year's draft.

why not? If he's as "can't miss", "best rb in years", etc. what difference would a year make (assuming he doesn't get hurt)?

A.P.If you don't know now you know.

 

[SammyJankis]

The look of every dynasty owner that has already overpaid to acquire the #1 rookie pick in their league, assuming Bush would be there =

Sorry, I don't understand this statement. If they have the #1 overall pick, Bush WILL be there. If they wanted Bush they will get him. Even if he doesnt get drafted #1 overall in the NFL, it won't make him less valuable in FF.

I think the point you were responding to was merely suggesting that **IF** Bush does decide to remain at USC for a final year (as is contemplated by a decision being "far off"), those who paid dearly for rookie 1.1 assuming he's coming out would be hosed. I don't think SJ was suggesting Bush wouldn't be available if he comes out as expected. Obviously he'd be there at 1.1 if he does.

Gotcha...

You got it. Didn't mean bush would slip past #1 in rookie drafts. I mean if he stays in school and you traded Shaun Alexander straight up for the #1 rookie pick (I have heard of such a deal.) you might be getting a little nervous.

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

Sounds to me like he's milking the decision to be a news story. His ego is probably bruised after VY stole some of his buzz.

And Houston won't even start taking offers for the #1 pick until we get a Head Coach........and he will be named once the Broncos are finished in the playoffs.

Hello Gary!

 

[Capella]

Can't they go back to being the Oilers?God those jerseys are ugly.

 

[bagger.]

If he stays, he loses millions and likely wouldn't be the first RB taken in next year's draft.

Funny, that's what everyone said about Leinart.It has been known for some time by USC insiders that White was the RB who was a lock to go to the draft early, not Bush. I am not saying that Bush will stay, but he comes from a wealthy family from north San Diego so he does not have the desire to get all this money he never had ASAP.

Carroll could use the same speech he gave to Leinart. Stay one more year. Try to repeat as Heisman, win a 3rd championship in 4 years, this will be your team completely as Booty or Sanchez will be eased into the passing game, the money will be there next year too, and his family (like Leinart's) has the resources to take out an additional insurance policy that will guarantee Bush 7 figures if he suffers a career threatening injury.

Bush may very well go, but Carroll is very convincing, especially to a kid like Bush who enjoys the college lifestyle, much moreso than White ever did.

Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[MrPack]

Any chance he could end up declaring AFTER the draft, and go in the supplemental draft? I believe he would have a better chance of going to a better team athough admittedly I'm not exactly sure how the supplemental draft works.I would think he would be losing some money too, but he could make that up eventually.Just a thought......

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

Can't they go back to being the Oilers?

God those jerseys are ugly.

Tampa fan.......you have some nerve referring to "UGLY" uniforms. How about wearing one of those 1980's jersey.Now that was ugly.

 

[Capella]

Can't they go back to being the Oilers?

God those jerseys are ugly.

Tampa fan.......you have some nerve referring to "UGLY" uniforms. How about wearing one of those 1980's jersey.Now that was ugly.

You might want to note that part of your post that said '80s' -- we're in a new century now.

 

[Courtjester]

Wouldn't he no longer be eligable to play NCAA football once he has hired and agent?

Technically, yes, he would be. As an athlete, there are some things you can do, while working through and with the NCAA, to test your status among the pro market before to making a declaration. Conversely, there is plenty that can and is done behind closed doors that would be a violation of NCAA rules but it goes on every season.

Thanks, I thought he had already hired this Dunn guy. But I may be mistaken.

See that was my thought too. He has an agent and please someone correct me if I am wrong, wasn't he debuting his new shoes during the Bowl game? ABC has some little blurb about it that the tape was covering up his new design or something.

Maybe I am wrong about that.

 

[bagger.]

NCAA | Bush far from a decision on the draft

Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:50:17 -0800

NBC Sports.com reports Southern California RB Reggie Bush told the Los Angeles Times that he is "far" from making his decision on whether to return for his senior year at Southern California or enter the 2006 NFL Draft. Bush met with USC head coach Pete Carroll and agent David Dunn for about one hour on campus Monday, Jan. 9, the Times said. "I'm still trying to figure everything out and put everything in perspective before I make my decision," Bush said after the meeting.

Wouldn't he no longer be eligable to play NCAA football once he has hired an agent?

He has not hired an agent yet...he just met with a few.

 

[JohnnyU]

Can't they go back to being the Oilers?

God those jerseys are ugly.

Tampa fan.......you have some nerve referring to "UGLY" uniforms. How about wearing one of those 1980's jersey.Now that was ugly.

You might want to note that part of your post that said '80s' -- we're in a new century now.

The pants on the current Bucs uniforms are still ugly. That puter, or whatever color that it is, is downright uuugly. However, I do like their helmets and jerseys.

 

[BigJim®]

Wouldn't he no longer be eligable to play NCAA football once he has hired and agent?

Technically, yes, he would be. As an athlete, there are some things you can do, while working through and with the NCAA, to test your status among the pro market before to making a declaration. Conversely, there is plenty that can and is done behind closed doors that would be a violation of NCAA rules but it goes on every season.

Thanks, I thought he had already hired this Dunn guy. But I may be mistaken.

See that was my thought too. He has an agent and please someone correct me if I am wrong, wasn't he debuting his new shoes during the Bowl game? ABC has some little blurb about it that the tape was covering up his new design or something.

Maybe I am wrong about that.

Reggie Bush never had an agent. He did have screwy dealings with Rebok representative Mike Ornstein in December, who was not an agent but was helping him screen potential agents (France, Dunn, Frankel, Steinberg, Segal, Parker and Condon). Reportedly, through that process he narrowed his choices to France/Segal. Makes no sense to me but apparently so long as any future deal with Ornstein/Rebok was just nod/nod wink/wink it's legit to utilize a rep to screen agents, and he never did sign with any agent or declare.

 

[cstu]

Bush is posturing, but stranger things have happened. He could easily take out a hefty insurance policy on himself [as Leinart did this year] to insulate him from major injury next year. The question he needs to ask himself is, will the teams he's trying to avoid this year [i.e., the Saints and Texans] assuredly be in a position to not pick that high again next year.

Why do players care about what team they go to when the fortunes of teams can change so quickly in the NFL? Look at Eli not wanting to go to SD and them going 12-4. Cincy should have been a place that Palmer didn't want to go and they've completely turned around in 3 years.

 

[Red Apples]

Bush is posturing, but stranger things have happened. He could easily take out a hefty insurance policy on himself [as Leinart did this year] to insulate him from major injury next year. The question he needs to ask himself is, will the teams he's trying to avoid this year [i.e., the Saints and Texans] assuredly be in a position to not pick that high again next year.

Why do players care about what team they go to when the fortunes of teams can change so quickly in the NFL? Look at Eli not wanting to go to SD and them going 12-4. Cincy should have been a place that Palmer didn't want to go and they've completely turned around in 3 years.

i would imagine they take into account the ownership & the city. historically cheap owners or cities prone to hurricanes might rate low for prospective players.

 

[slimflop]

This is from Scott Wright owner of NFL Draft Countdown

That is out of context, what he isn't sure about is picking an agent. Here is the full quote:

Quote:

Bush said the meeting with Dunn would be his last with agents, but he emphasized that he had not chosen who would represent him if he turns pro.

"I'm far from making my decision," he said.

Dunn, who was accompanied by several associates, declined to comment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uscfbr...eadlines-sports

 

[Iron_Far]

Wouldn't he no longer be eligable to play NCAA football once he has hired and agent?

Technically, yes, he would be. As an athlete, there are some things you can do, while working through and with the NCAA, to test your status among the pro market before to making a declaration. Conversely, there is plenty that can and is done behind closed doors that would be a violation of NCAA rules but it goes on every season.

Thanks, I thought he had already hired this Dunn guy. But I may be mistaken.

See that was my thought too. He has an agent and please someone correct me if I am wrong, wasn't he debuting his new shoes during the Bowl game? ABC has some little blurb about it that the tape was covering up his new design or something.

Maybe I am wrong about that.

. Reportedly, through that process he narrowed his choices to France/Segal.

So why then is Dunn being quoted along in this story??

 

[MrPack]

Any chance he could end up declaring AFTER the draft, and go in the supplemental draft? I believe he would have a better chance of going to a better team athough admittedly I'm not exactly sure how the supplemental draft works.

I would think he would be losing some money too, but he could make that up eventually.

Just a thought......

Is this too far-fetched to even be considered an option?

 

[tattoofan]

Any chance he could end up declaring AFTER the draft, and go in the supplemental draft? I believe he would have a better chance of going to a better team athough admittedly I'm not exactly sure how the supplemental draft works.

I would think he would be losing some money too, but he could make that up eventually.

Just a thought......

Is this too far-fetched to even be considered an option?

I always thought there had to be some sort of extenuating circumstances that kept the player from being able to be in the draft, thus placing them in a supplemental draft. I did not think a person could just pick which draft they wanted to participate in. Could be completely wrong though.

 

[BigJim®]

Wouldn't he no longer be eligable to play NCAA football once he has hired and agent?

Technically, yes, he would be. As an athlete, there are some things you can do, while working through and with the NCAA, to test your status among the pro market before to making a declaration. Conversely, there is plenty that can and is done behind closed doors that would be a violation of NCAA rules but it goes on every season.

Thanks, I thought he had already hired this Dunn guy. But I may be mistaken.

See that was my thought too. He has an agent and please someone correct me if I am wrong, wasn't he debuting his new shoes during the Bowl game? ABC has some little blurb about it that the tape was covering up his new design or something.

Maybe I am wrong about that.

. Reportedly, through that process he narrowed his choices to France/Segal.

So why then is Dunn being quoted along in this story??

I'm just mentioning what was reported back in December after initial screenings. Current reports are he will settle on Segal regardless of continued speculation about Dunn.

 

[cowboyz]

This is from Scott Wright owner of NFL Draft Countdown

That is out of context, what he isn't sure about is picking an agent. Here is the full quote:

Quote:

Bush said the meeting with Dunn would be his last with agents, but he emphasized that he had not chosen who would represent him if he turns pro.

"I'm far from making my decision," he said.

Dunn, who was accompanied by several associates, declined to comment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uscfbr...eadlines-sports

 

[BrentBlack]

This is from Scott Wright owner of NFL Draft Countdown

That is out of context, what he isn't sure about is picking an agent. Here is the full quote:

Quote:

Bush said the meeting with Dunn would be his last with agents, but he emphasized that he had not chosen who would represent him if he turns pro.

"I'm far from making my decision," he said.

Dunn, who was accompanied by several associates, declined to comment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uscfbr...eadlines-sports

Another quality thread by GBill.

 

[Red Apples]

reggie bush has a press conference tomorrow live on ESPN @ 11:30 eastern.

 

[Buckna]

reggie bush has a press conference tomorrow live on ESPN @ 11:30 eastern.

Looks like we will know tomorrow!

 

[Red Apples]

Reggie Bush to announce plans ThursdayAssociated Press

College Football News Wire

LOS ANGELES - Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush will announce Thursday whether he'll return to Southern California for his senior season or enter the NFL draft.

He has kept a low profile since USC lost to Texas 41-38 for the national championship in the Rose Bowl game Jan. 4. Underclassmen have until Sunday to apply for the April 29-30 draft.

Bush is to make his announcement in the morning on campus. He has been projected for months as the No. 1 overall pick, and it will be surprising if he returns to the Trojans.

Texas quarterback Vince Young inserted himself into the mix Sunday, declaring for the draft four days after his amazing performance in the Rose Bowl.

After winning his Heisman in 2004, USC's Matt Leinart decided to return to school for his final year of eligibility although he almost surely would have been one of the top players in the draft.

But as a quarterback, Leinart was in a far different situation. Running backs are such a target, with even the best at risk every time they carry the ball. On average, standout running backs have far shorter professional careers than top quarterbacks.

If Bush does decide to return to school, he could join Ohio State running back Archie Griffin as the only two-time winners of the Heisman. Griffin won the award in 1974-75.

Fellow USC tailback LenDale White, who represented the "Thunder" to Bush's "Lightning" for the Trojans, was to announce his plans Wednesday at a news conference in Denver - his hometown.

Bush rushed for 3,169 yards and White 3,159, helping the Trojans go 37-2 the past three seasons. USC has won 34 straight games before losing to Texas.

 

[Christo]

If he stays, he loses millions and likely wouldn't be the first RB taken in next year's draft.

why not? If he's as "can't miss", "best rb in years", etc. what difference would a year make (assuming he doesn't get hurt)?

His name is Adrian Peterson.

 

[Loopdog]

hahait would really suck for the guy that traded LT for the number one rookie pick in his league's draft if Reggie stays at USC

 

[Red Apples]

haha

it would really suck for the guy that traded LT for the number one rookie pick in his league's draft if Reggie stays at USC

yes, that ####### would prove to be even dumber.

 

[wannabee]

haha

it would really suck for the guy that traded LT for the number one rookie pick in his league's draft if Reggie stays at USC

yes, that ####### would prove to be even dumber.

C'mon. Be excellent to one another. There is no need for that. I assume if he is proven right, he will bump the thread. If not, I KNOW someone else will. No need for personall assaults. We are all just guessing now. Bush could be the best ever, or not. We will know soon enough.

 

[JohnnyU]

haha

it would really suck for the guy that traded LT for the number one rookie pick in his league's draft if Reggie stays at USC

yes, that ####### would prove to be even dumber.

C'mon. Be excellent to one another. There is no need for that. I assume if he is proven right, he will bump the thread. If not, I KNOW someone else will. No need for personall assaults. We are all just guessing now. Bush could be the best ever, or not. We will know soon enough.