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Weeks 1-6 (per game)

Receptions: 33 (6.6)

Yards: 468 (93.6)

TDs: 4 (0.8)

Weeks 7-13

Receptions: 29 (4.1)

Yards: 402 (57.4)

TDs: 1 (0.1)

Oddly, his two best games came against two of the top pass defenses in the league (Baltimore and Pittsburgh). Is he simply getting washed up, injured or is this an indication of something that is actually out of his control? Manning rarely throws bombs to him anymore.

 
Weeks 1-6 (per game)

Receptions: 33 (6.6)

Yards: 468 (93.6)

TDs: 4 (0.8)

Weeks 7-13

Receptions: 29 (4.1)

Yards: 402 (57.4)

TDs: 1 (0.1)

Oddly, his two best games came against two of the top pass defenses in the league (Baltimore and Pittsburgh). Is he simply getting washed up, injured or is this an indication of something that is actually out of his control? Manning rarely throws bombs to him anymore.
Big time washed up. Sell at any cost in dynasty.
 
Looks to me like he's not a top WR. I own him and have watched him extensively...at first I blamed Manning for his skip passes the land at Wayne's feet, but lately he just seems to get blanketed and doesn't seem to have much desire (either to fight for the ball OR create YAC).

Today he was absolutely blamketed by McDonald. Other weeks it been the same story (different defender).

 
I might bench him next week against the Bengals. I know one should never bench their studs. This guy doesn't seem to merit the label of stud anymore, though. If Wayne can't get it done against the Texans and Browns, there's no reason to believe he can do much against the Bengals. When it comes down to it, I'll probably start him anyway since I don't have better options.

 
Looks to me like he's not a top WR. I own him and have watched him extensively...at first I blamed Manning for his skip passes the land at Wayne's feet, but lately he just seems to get blanketed and doesn't seem to have much desire (either to fight for the ball OR create YAC).Today he was absolutely blamketed by McDonald. Other weeks it been the same story (different defender).
Variety of issues, early in year Harrison was getting coverage from top CB it seemed. Recently Manning has used Gonzo as a go to receiver, attribute that to working together time as season has gone on. Total lack of running game has resulted in a cover passs first thought process by defenses - even more than before.ETA: However as we all panic please note that according to NFL.com he is #10 receiver in yards for the year.
 
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1. Peyton is not playing well as of late

2. The Colts O-line can not protect Manning long enough for deep routes to develop. Clark, Gonzo, Addai have become quicker options.

3. Somewhere along the line the Colts decided they were a running team.

 
Reggie is hurt and playing like he is hurt.
I think ur right... Reggie is a little more banged up than usual, along w/ Manning Spreading the ball around a little more. Then toss in the injury to Saturday which hinders Manning's performance...its just a Mess right now, but theres no way u can bench him
 
Reggie is hurt and playing like he is hurt.
I think ur right... Reggie is a little more banged up than usual, along w/ Manning Spreading the ball around a little more. Then toss in the injury to Saturday which hinders Manning's performance...its just a Mess right now, but theres no way u can bench him
Is the key to start the players who will score the most points consistently? Wayne currently does not fit that bill.
 
Reggie is hurt and playing like he is hurt.
I think ur right... Reggie is a little more banged up than usual, along w/ Manning Spreading the ball around a little more. Then toss in the injury to Saturday which hinders Manning's performance...its just a Mess right now, but theres no way u can bench him
Is the key to start the players who will score the most points consistently? Wayne currently does not fit that bill.
it hasn't been that bad... especially in PPR9 13.50 vs Patriots Skibum - S (Q) 5 65 0 10 29.40 at Steelers Skibum - S 6 114 1 0 11 19.00 vs Texans Skibum - S (Q) 7 90 0 12 5.40 at Chargers Skibum - S 2 34 0 13 at Browns Skibum - S 4 46 hes still on pace to reach 80 recs / 1000+ / 6 or more TDs... low end WR1 #s; it could be worse you could of drafted Randy Moss or Edwards or Plax or Colston or another other so called stud WR that hasn't done anything in the past 6 weeks
 
Reggie is hurt and playing like he is hurt.
I agree. He doesn't look like he gets any separation right now. Last Sunday Night Cromartie got up in his face most of the night and he didn't look like he had a prayer. He's never been a burner but he could always accelerate to the ball well and get deep at times. I tend to believe his knee is slowing him down a bit. Marvin's obviously older and doesn't appear to be able to get deep quite like he did in the past either. IMO the lack of explosiveness outside is what is crippling this offense. They used to be able to hit you with the deep strike to Harrison or Wayne, now it's just a check-down dink and dunk offense. I think they'd be better off with Gonzalez at one of the outside spots to give them some more explosiveness, but that's not what they're doing. Last season Wayne moved around quite a bit and played the slot a good amount of time, but lately (at least from the games I've seen) they've pretty much left him over on the left and played Gonzo in the slot. When Harrison was out last season I thought Gonzo gave them back some explosiveness at that outside spot. It might help Wayne and the offense in general if he swapped spots with Gonzo more often...
 
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I think the team is playing more cautious as a whole. They're not putting up gaudy numbers in any area. Maybe their mindset is different knowing they're a wildcard team, or maybe they're just a very good team instead of a superior team now.

I think Wayne is still their big-time player; they're just not making any big-time plays.

 
The entire Indy offense is in flux right now.

One thing not mentioned enough is the demise of Marvin Harrison. When you have two elite WR's with one of the best QB's to ever play the game that's unstoppable. But you could make a great case that Marvin's not anywhere close to being in the Top 30 WR's in the league right now. That puts a lot more pressure on Wayne. And history will show that you can shut down one receiver. I think most teams will take their chances with Marvin right now. That leaves the focus on Wayne.

The O line has also been pretty terrible this year. Too many injuries and too many inexperienced players playing lots of minutes. That will drastically alter the offense.

Plus, Peyton, while healthier, is still probably not in his typical form.

Then, the struggle with the run game.

Who knows what will happen the rest of this year but the entire offense has sputtered. Best hope for next year is to have the O line and Peyton healthy. Also, they could probably stand to make an investment or two or three on weapons for the passing game. As a Peyton dynasty owner I'd like to see another studly wideout come into the fold. I think Harrison is about done and Gonzalez, while a solid player, would be a great #3 WR.

 
Wayne got vitually no separation today. I don't think any of the WRs were very open today - the CLE D played very well today, especially the secondary. The Colts usually struggle against the Browns - look up the recent history.

 
I didn't think I could be this unexcited about having Wayne, Marshall, and Moss going into the playoffs.

 
I asked this question two weeks ago. It seems that Wayne is not getting the looks as he was to start the year. How bad is the injury? He was getting open deep and Peyton was just off with the throws. Now Peyton is getting sharp and Wayne is no longer open.

 
I asked this question two weeks ago. It seems that Wayne is not getting the looks as he was to start the year. How bad is the injury? He was getting open deep and Peyton was just off with the throws. Now Peyton is getting sharp and Wayne is no longer open.
The injury seems to be affecting Harrison, too. Manning simply isn't throwing the deep ball much anymore. He's typically throwing short dump-offs after doing all his check downs.
 
The entire Indy offense is in flux right now. One thing not mentioned enough is the demise of Marvin Harrison. When you have two elite WR's with one of the best QB's to ever play the game that's unstoppable. But you could make a great case that Marvin's not anywhere close to being in the Top 30 WR's in the league right now. That puts a lot more pressure on Wayne. And history will show that you can shut down one receiver. I think most teams will take their chances with Marvin right now. That leaves the focus on Wayne. The O line has also been pretty terrible this year. Too many injuries and too many inexperienced players playing lots of minutes. That will drastically alter the offense.Plus, Peyton, while healthier, is still probably not in his typical form.Then, the struggle with the run game.Who knows what will happen the rest of this year but the entire offense has sputtered. Best hope for next year is to have the O line and Peyton healthy. Also, they could probably stand to make an investment or two or three on weapons for the passing game. As a Peyton dynasty owner I'd like to see another studly wideout come into the fold. I think Harrison is about done and Gonzalez, while a solid player, would be a great #3 WR.
:) Although I think it needs reshuffled a bit. The fall of Harrison is nowhere near as important as the O-line play. The Colts this year are a fine example of what happens to a juggernaut offense when you swap out a top 5 line for slightly below average line play. The biggest thing wrong with Indy is that they need an offseason of healing.
 
I suppose I should've sat him considering the weather in CLE. This guy has the choicest playoff schedule on one of the most explosive offenses in the league, and I have to now consider benching him.

I still probably can't do it against Cinci, but when is the guy gonna start being the WR we was?

 
I thought of benching him yesterday in favor of Davone Bess. Then I thought, "Dude, it's Reggie Wayne! You don't bench Reggie Wayne for Davone Bess!"

Hindsight says I would have been right, but that's not the point. Going forward how much trust can I put in Wayne? I get a bye until Week 15 when he plays Detroit. Normally I would be rubbing my hands together at that matchup, but now I'm thinking about sitting him.

 
I thought of benching him yesterday in favor of Davone Bess. Then I thought, "Dude, it's Reggie Wayne! You don't bench Reggie Wayne for Davone Bess!"Hindsight says I would have been right, but that's not the point. Going forward how much trust can I put in Wayne? I get a bye until Week 15 when he plays Detroit. Normally I would be rubbing my hands together at that matchup, but now I'm thinking about sitting him.
Benching Reggie Wayne against Det. would be a very poor coaching decision.
 
Clearly Indy isnt the same offensive powerhouse that it has been in years passed. Peyton has been injured or recoering all year. His timing with his receivers seems off almost all the time. The run game hasn;t been all that effective. Harrison's fall from grace has hurt becuase he doenst keep the other side honest. Gonzalez doesnt get enough pplaying time. Clark doesnt get enough looks. And quite frankly Reggie just probably isnt as good as we all thoguht he was. This was actually something many people thought through the years but Wayne benefited from playing opposite Harrison. Thisis not to say Wayne isnt a stud because he is. But maybe, just maybe, he isnt as good as well all thought???

 
He dropped one today in the end zone...should have been a 12 yard TD.
He did not drop it, McDonald knocked it out.
He should have made the catch.
This is ridiculous. McDonald made an outstanding defensive play to break up the TD. Manning threw exactly 21 passes yesterday (6 incomplete), at least 7 of which went to Wayne that I know of. The first interception Wayne had a good 2-3 steps down the field on McDonald and the ball was underthrown. Reggie had to come to a complete stop to try and break up the interception which he couldn't do. Another of Manning's incompletions was another nice defensive play by McDonald. Another was a hail mary at the end of the first half.I really think there's nothing wrong with Wayne. The flow of the game and the strong Browns defensive play dictated how effective the Colts ended up being in the passing game. Give credit where it's due. The Browns have actually allowed 17 points or less in 6 of their last 9 games. Don't panic.
 
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There are several things. In no particular order:

* Wayne has been hurt and is probably having a llittle bit tougher time getting separation

* Harrison is not the same threat he once was; he will not see any double teams.

* Dallas Clark has been a non-factor. Is he limited due to injuries earlier in year?

* The o-line has not been as good as in the past. Manning is dumping off to RBs more often.

* Manning, at times, plays like a guy that is afraid of getting hit. Not only is he dumping off to RBs more often, he is dumping more quickly.

 
Reggie is hurt and playing like he is hurt.
I think ur right... Reggie is a little more banged up than usual, along w/ Manning Spreading the ball around a little more. Then toss in the injury to Saturday which hinders Manning's performance...its just a Mess right now, but theres no way u can bench him
Is the key to start the players who will score the most points consistently? Wayne currently does not fit that bill.
it hasn't been that bad... especially in PPR9 13.50 vs Patriots Skibum - S (Q) 5 65 0 10 29.40 at Steelers Skibum - S 6 114 1 0 11 19.00 vs Texans Skibum - S (Q) 7 90 0 12 5.40 at Chargers Skibum - S 2 34 0 13 at Browns Skibum - S 4 46 hes still on pace to reach 80 recs / 1000+ / 6 or more TDs... low end WR1 #s; it could be worse you could of drafted Randy Moss or Edwards or Plax or Colston or another other so called stud WR that hasn't done anything in the past 6 weeks
Hmmm, Moss had three touchdowns last week alone and four in his last 3 games ... not necessarily bottom of the barrel stuff.Reggie is a little banged up as others have mentioned. Manning is also missing him (not only Reggie, other receivers too) with frequently underthrown balls. Another 2 prime examples yesterday, one of which led to Manning being intercepted. Reggie had his man beat deep to the outside, but had to stop and allow the ball to float to him. The defender just boxed out Wayne and was an easy pick. Very few of Mannings deep balls are thrown well these days it seems ... the ball is floating, fluttering, is not a tight spiral, etc and he is underthrowing receivers badly. Not saying that is the only reason Wayne is struggling, but I have seen this time in and time out on Sundays this year it seems. At first, blamed it on him not having preseason, then just thought was an issue with Harrison and his timing with others suffered too. Then it was not having Saturday as an excuse, but Peyton even had him back for a while (until this week at least) ... now? Cant find any other excuses except he is just not playing well this year.Wayne still probably should have caught the TD pass IMO. It was a good play by the defender ripping the ball out, but still thought he could have had it.
 
He dropped one today in the end zone...should have been a 12 yard TD.
He did not drop it, McDonald knocked it out.
He should have made the catch.
This is ridiculous. McDonald made an outstanding defensive play to break up the TD. Manning threw exactly 21 passes yesterday (6 incomplete), at least 7 of which went to Wayne that I know of. The first interception Wayne had a good 2-3 steps down the field on McDonald and the ball was underthrown. Reggie had to come to a complete stop to try and break up the interception which he couldn't do. Another of Manning's incompletions was another nice defensive play by McDonald. Another was a hail mary at the end of the first half.I really think there's nothing wrong with Wayne. The flow of the game and the strong Browns defensive play dictated how effective the Colts ended up being in the passing game. Give credit where it's due. The Browns have actually allowed 17 points or less in 6 of their last 9 games. Don't panic.
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He dropped one today in the end zone...should have been a 12 yard TD.
He did not drop it, McDonald knocked it out.
He should have made the catch.
This is ridiculous. McDonald made an outstanding defensive play to break up the TD. Manning threw exactly 21 passes yesterday (6 incomplete), at least 7 of which went to Wayne that I know of. The first interception Wayne had a good 2-3 steps down the field on McDonald and the ball was underthrown. Reggie had to come to a complete stop to try and break up the interception which he couldn't do. Another of Manning's incompletions was another nice defensive play by McDonald. Another was a hail mary at the end of the first half.I really think there's nothing wrong with Wayne. The flow of the game and the strong Browns defensive play dictated how effective the Colts ended up being in the passing game. Give credit where it's due. The Browns have actually allowed 17 points or less in 6 of their last 9 games. Don't panic.
Couldn't agree any more. Browns used ball control offense and kept Indy's offense off the field. When Indy did get on the field they were out of sync.
 
So is anyone really benching him 1st week of playoffs? Don't think I can do it, probably going with Wayne and R Moss leaving Marshall on the bench.

 
1. Peyton is not playing well as of late

2. The Colts O-line can not protect Manning long enough for deep routes to develop. Clark, Gonzo, Addai have become quicker options.

3. Somewhere along the line the Colts decided they were a running team.
Not true. The Colts OL still protects well. Manning regularly throws it deep, but isn't nearly as accurate this year. Also, the Colts have only allowed 23 sacks, which is in line with almost every year.
 
1. Peyton is not playing well as of late

2. The Colts O-line can not protect Manning long enough for deep routes to develop. Clark, Gonzo, Addai have become quicker options.

3. Somewhere along the line the Colts decided they were a running team.
Not true. The Colts OL still protects well. Manning regularly throws it deep, but isn't nearly as accurate this year. Also, the Colts have only allowed 23 sacks, which is in line with almost every year.
I disagree. Manning has been hurried a lot more this year than in years past.
 
1. Peyton is not playing well as of late

2. The Colts O-line can not protect Manning long enough for deep routes to develop. Clark, Gonzo, Addai have become quicker options.

3. Somewhere along the line the Colts decided they were a running team.
Not true. The Colts OL still protects well. Manning regularly throws it deep, but isn't nearly as accurate this year. Also, the Colts have only allowed 23 sacks, which is in line with almost every year.
I disagree. Manning has been hurried a lot more this year than in years past.
Only early in the year. Obviously I watch every Colts game, and I can tell you that Manning is sitting comfortable in the pocket on most deep throws the last 4 or 5 weeks.
 
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1. Peyton is not playing well as of late

2. The Colts O-line can not protect Manning long enough for deep routes to develop. Clark, Gonzo, Addai have become quicker options.

3. Somewhere along the line the Colts decided they were a running team.
Not true. The Colts OL still protects well. Manning regularly throws it deep, but isn't nearly as accurate this year. Also, the Colts have only allowed 23 sacks, which is in line with almost every year.
I disagree. Manning has been hurried a lot more this year than in years past.
Only early in the year. Obviously I watch every Colts game, and I can tell you that Manning is sitting comfortable in the pocket on most deep throws the last 4 or 5 weeks.
I've watched those same games and you're wrong. You're just very wrong. I've constantly seen the pocket "flexing" around him. It's difficult to put into words and I actually think the line has done an admirable job - but he's getting hurried. "Sitting comfortable". Please tell me you're kidding. Drew Brees. Kurt Warner. Kerry Collins. Eli. Those guys are sitting comfortable. No - I'm not saying Peyton is constantly throwing with a defender draped on his back. But you're painting an unfair picture for Colt owners who don't get to see their games that the pass protection is status quo and Manning is just "off".
 
This is what happens when the best WR on your team gets washed up/injured/old and the coverage now actually focusses more on you. And Anthony Gonzalez is no Harrison so do not expect that Manning will just continue to post the #s he did with Harrison in his prime. Now the entire Colts O will be down and Reggie will be part of that.

 
This is what happens when the best WR on your team gets washed up/injured/old and the coverage now actually focusses more on you. And Anthony Gonzalez is no Harrison so do not expect that Manning will just continue to post the #s he did with Harrison in his prime. Now the entire Colts O will be down and Reggie will be part of that.
The Harrison thing keeps getting brought up, and I continue to wonder why? Harrison was virtually non-existent in 2007, yet Wayne put up his best statistical season.
 
So what are the expectations this week for Reggie? Big Game with the RB's dinged up a bit?
I'd like some opinions on this as well. He's currently on my bench behind AD, Chester Taylor, Roddy White and Anquan Boldin...The only one I could see swapping him for is Taylor, who may get a lion's share of the carries after halftime and put up RB1 numbers this week.
 
This is what happens when the best WR on your team gets washed up/injured/old and the coverage now actually focusses more on you. And Anthony Gonzalez is no Harrison so do not expect that Manning will just continue to post the #s he did with Harrison in his prime. Now the entire Colts O will be down and Reggie will be part of that.
The Harrison thing keeps getting brought up, and I continue to wonder why? Harrison was virtually non-existent in 2007, yet Wayne put up his best statistical season.
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This is what happens when the best WR on your team gets washed up/injured/old and the coverage now actually focuses more on you. And Anthony Gonzalez is no Harrison so do not expect that Manning will just continue to post the #s he did with Harrison in his prime. Now the entire Colts O will be down and Reggie will be part of that.
The Harrison thing keeps getting brought up, and I continue to wonder why? Harrison was virtually non-existent in 2007, yet Wayne put up his best statistical season.
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One thing to consider (and I am not asserting this is the case, but rather just throwing it out there as a possibility) is that in 2007, Reggie Wayne was 100% healthy and more than able to handle the switch in focus (since he is that good when 100% healthy). In 2008, though, he has had some nagging injuries (his knee specifically) and has not been 100% for most of the year. You won't hear him complain publicly about it, though. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that he is having a down year (combined with the fact that he is still seeing #1 coverage).
 
Wow, you guys are really this down on Reggie even against Cincy? I thought he was a lock this weekend and was considering benching Randy or Marshall, should I really reconsider?

 
Wow, you guys are really this down on Reggie even against Cincy? I thought he was a lock this weekend and was considering benching Randy or Marshall, should I really reconsider?
No way. I own Reggie too and there is no way I would consider benching him this or next week given these matchups. Just b/c he isn't having a lights out year doesn't mean he won't have a big game against a subpar opponent.
 

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