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That's a statement of contradiction. If a wealthy person can get here, there's a path that money will provide, which is the opposite of "literally no provision". This is what I'm trying to get at....what's the rule of law today?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/30/irs-doesnt-tell-1-million-taxpayers-that-illegal-i/
Here's a good explainer. It's not literally impossible because they could spend years obtaining the requisite training and skills, become a doctor or engineer or something, and then connect with the people who could arrange for employment-based immigration, but that's just not a real option for most people.
Yeah, I believe if you have an average bank balance equivalent to 20,000 days of work at minimum wage in Mexico City you can apply for residency.
1. I say that we require them all to join the Army, and when we get to about 7 million armed and ready to go..... we invade Mexico. Once we win we have to station garrison there to keep the peace. Given their background they would be perfect for that role.
So our official position is along the lines of "unless you have an immediate family member here in the States we don't want you". Is there any other country we take this position with?
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Many private employers (large and small) want to see the appearance of legality (SS#, whoever's it is)) and then they won't ask anymore questions. The entire construction industry in this country works this way. I'd imagine a large part of the service industry does as well. Some Fed construction projects require each subcontracted employee to e-verify and most firms know who in their workforces to not take chances with on these types of projects.
Just to be clear, you'd like to bring millions of foreign nationals into the military ranks, pay them, train them in military tactics, including officers, arm them with the weapons of the greatest military on earth, and send them home among their families and friends a few miles from our borders which will not have a wall?
Again, this is also in the explainer I linked to:
Basically there's four ways to get in- family, employment, humanitarian (refugees) or the lottery. The first three can take years, and the lottery is not an option at all for certain countries.
Sure just as long as you give citizenship to our good future Democrat voters first.
Why would I train them? There is 7 million of them. Just send them over with landscaping equipment with the US Army logo on it and paint their shirts green. Why you have to be so complicated. This stuff is easy.
I'm for the "Obama plan." He deported more immigrants than any previous President and more than all of them before W. combined. He did so by heavily ramping up "border crossing" deportations. You get caught crossing? See ya. Back across immediately. You've been here several years and aren't a dirtbag? Check in annually and if you stay not a dirtbag, you can stay.
So by "garrison" you mean a room full of 7 million guys holding rakes and shovels. Got it.
I don't really care about strengthening our borders one way or another. I think any measures will cost a lot and have limited effectiveness. But if the majority of people disagree and want to spend our tax dollars on such a project, so be it. I'm fine with doing it now regardless of how we treat those who are already here, which I consider a separate issue. Opposing a "wall" or whatever is pretty low on my list of liberal priorities.
With 51% of our legal immigrants already being subsidized by our government there should not be a line anywhere for poor people to just mosey on in and enjoy the ever increasing American welfare state.
I'd agree with a lot of this post. Migrant workers add a lot of complexity to the discussion. That's the only people we can get to pick fruits and vegetables.
This is my understanding as well. Years ago, when I worked for a payroll company, I had clothing companies that hired lots of Hispanic people that did piecework for them, and I was given Social Security numbers like 555-56-6666 and 567-8901-234.
Look, we all know that the army thing is easy. If the regular old folks of Mexico see 7 million guys with American lawn equipment coming at them, they are gonna back down. Believe me. They are gonna back down.
When you write "subsidized by the government", can you be more specific? And what is the percentage of people born here who are subsidized by the government?
Sometimes they do here.
You seem very eager to conquer Mexico. Is there something in particular you're looking for?
Shows what you know. That's the lost 4th verse. It's on Lady Liberty's lower back. It was the first tramp stamp.
Don't ask. He's got this thing for women in those dresses women wear while working at Mexican restaurants
Easier access to South America so that I can get from Brazil to West Africa before anyone else.
I agree. I also think there's a line where people have been here and contributed and shown they deserve a place in our society. I think most people just disagree on where that line is.
Remember that news story about the mother of two in Phoenix being deported a couple weeks ago? She was one.
Nah.
People getting across the border, ditching work, and disappearing into a nation of nearly 3.8 million square miles where we'll never find them.
It's not just Mexico, I assure you. Part of the new budget are plans for the USA-India Wall and the USA-Eastern Europeans who aren't good-looking Wall. Those are going to be awesome.
) will agree is horrible.
Please. Never find them. Pfft. Show me your local Home Depot and I will show you your local undocumented Mexican workers waiting for the army signups to invade Mexico.
Over a decade ago, I think. Ss# used to do work. As I recall, didn't take any debt in the name of the person, didn't file for a tax return. Seems like a crime without a victim, which is probably why under GWB and BHO she was given a pass. Trump changed the rules though and she was taken into custody at her annual meeting.
Well, if we never find them, that means they aren't bothering anyone, right? So what's the harm? Or do I need to get my sarcasm meter adjusted? This whole thing is getting more and more silly to me. If Disney World can figure out a way to keep people who didn't pay for "extended hour" types of tickets and thus keeps them off the rides, I don't see why we can't do something similar with respect to our entitlements.
I don't have figures on me, but it's very bad for human trafficking. Women trying to cross are often raped, of course, but many times pay a coyote to take them across and are instead sold into slavery.Does anyone have any research on how a given border policy affects human trafficking, which I think everyone (except yankee23
Ouch.Does anyone have any research on how a given border policy affects human trafficking, which I think everyone (except yankee23
It isn't sarcasm but it isn't my personal concern. A lot of people don't like the idea - I personally think that with a legal migrant work visa people would be pretty unlikely to disappear and lose that.
