Revis blasts Moss, says he 'put his foot on the brake in Wk2 (1 Viewer)

[-jb-]

Revis has spent a lot of time lately trailing Randy Moss and Percy Harvin into the end zone as they score touchdowns. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.::topgun::

Let me ask you something. If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you?

 

[packersfan]

Revis has spent a lot of time lately trailing Randy Moss and Percy Harvin into the end zone as they score touchdowns. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.::topgun::

Let me ask you something. If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you?

Absolutely. I'm a huge Revis fan. I think he got absolutely jobbed for DPOY last season. No way Woodson should have won it over him. I'm just saying that Revis shouldn't be doing so much talking. He hasn't played all that well this season. Blame it on the injury (which is likely because of his own decision to hold out) but his production on the field hasn't been Revis-esque thus far.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Revis has spent a lot of time lately trailing Randy Moss and Percy Harvin into the end zone as they score touchdowns. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.::topgun::

Let me ask you something. If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you?

Actually, I'd rather have a bad ### Marine or Navy SEAL.

 

[VaTerp]

DVR'd the game, and watched it again. I saw what Revis sees.

When Moss lines up, everything from his body launguage to his facial expressions tip off whether or not he is goiung into the pattern and be the primary target. They isolated on Moss a lot last night, and he was so easy to read it was ridiclulous. All Cromartie had to do was look at him and he knew if it was a pass play or a run play.

When Moss wasn't invlolved, he didn't even try to throw a block on Cromartie. He didn't even pretend to care. He didn't try to fake a route, he just stood there, disinterested. Revis was right on spot. If I am a safety, I just look at Moss line up, and I know if I have to worry about him... or get ready to move up in run support.

Moss telegraphs what his offesne is about to do. He can make big plays, but I honestly wonder if he is more of a liability than a help. I think he is a detriment when he knows the play isn't for him. No wonder Belichick jetisoned this guy. Here he is with another new team, and he only puts out when he thinks it's all about him.

Revis was right.

Disagree completely.Moss often sets up his go routes by coming off the line slow before going into a sprint. He's done this throughout his career. He's never been noted for his run blocking but I didn't see anything last night that indicates he gave less effort than usual.

The guy has been on the two most prolific offenses in NFL history and his body language is the same now as it was then IMO. To say that he telegraphs what the offense is about to do is just not accurate.

Revis should worry more about his hammy and less about Moss, who he didn't even cover last nite. And the last time he did cover him he was posterized and came up lame as Moss scored a TD.

I like Revis and the Jets and I like Moss so I have no bias here. I just disagree completely with your analysis.

I rewound the DVR every time they iso'd on Moss. He does indeed telegraph whether or not he is going to be invlolved in the play. Watch it again and see if you can't help but notice it. That is what I took away from all the replays I've watched repeatedly. Bash Revis all you want. I think he should shut up too, but the point is, I don't think he's wrong. I think Belichick agrees with me. Or rather, I with him and Revis. LOL... as far as the TD Revis pulled his hammy on, that was a perfect throw and a brilliant one handed catch. His hamstring injury has really affected his game, and he is to blame for that with what turned out to be a pointless holdout. Truth is, I don't particularly like Revis. He is turning into the ME player Moss is. That doesn't change the fact that he, and Belichick are right about Moss.

You're making a HUGE assumption that Belichick agrees with you and Revis. There are a number of factors that went into why he decided to trade Moss but there is nothing other than speculation on your part that Moss "telegraphing" plays was one of those factors. Of course, BB would never say it if it was but I just don't believe it. At all, and it is far from fact.I will watch the game again but I still maintain that Moss comes off the line like that for a reason the majority of the time. I don't believe that in a contract year when he's trying to get his final payday he's dogging it as much as you and Revis believe. I think that's the way he plays and has played throughout his career.

 

[Adebisi]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Revis miss the second half of this game after he pulled a hamstring trying (unsuccessfully) to keep up with Moss? What a bizarre comment to make under the circumstances.

 

[az_prof]

Revis had a great 2009 but he needs to start showing up in 2010 and get off his island--right now he is all talk and no show. I find it pretty sad.

I loved watching Harvin school him. He plays dirty and uses his hands alot and it was great to watch Harvin throw him around and beat him with his speed too.

 

[Rovers]

So... Revis can be beaten when he has a very bad hammy, and that means he sucks? Revis never should have even played last night, he wasn't healthy. He wasn't "schooled' whatsoever. Revis is all about speed. Put a flat tire on and Indy car and it isn't going to run very well, is it?

Try if you can to overcome your bias for a moment and seperate a couple of things.

Number one, seperate what Revis said from what he has done on the field since his injury. Take his comments the way you would from a sports writer or even a coach, or better yet, and ex-player commentator. Are his statements way off base? Forget the source, are the comments based on fact, or not?

Two: Is what he said about Moss incorrect? It isn't speculation on my part to say I saw Moss dogging it and telegraphing his non-involvement in the play call. I saw what I saw, and it was as plain as day. When he is going to be involved in the play, his eyes are wide open, he's observedly keyed up and ready. When it's a running play, he looks likes he's bored, because he is. His body is so relaxed, he almost looks like he's slumped over. It's as plain as Jimmy Durante's nose on his face, not speculation at all. If you can't see that, you are blind.

Then Moss apologists want to say it's OK since he's been dogging it since he got into the NFL? So, being lazy and lacking team commitment is somehow more acceptable from him because that is what he does all the time? Even after Revis called him out on it... he didn't change a thing.

Moss is a lazy self interested football player. Don't EVEN try to explain Belichick's jetisoning of this guy in early mid season any other way. It never ends well with Moss. He is a guy who is the epitomy of the ME NFL football player. As good as he can be, teams keep unloading him. The reasons for that are easy to see for anyone that has their eyes open.

 

[NinerFan49]

So... Revis can be beaten when he has a very bad hammy, and that means he sucks? Revis never should have even played last night, he wasn't healthy. He wasn't "schooled' whatsoever. Revis is all about speed. Put a flat tire on and Indy car and it isn't going to run very well, is it? Try if you can to overcome your bias for a moment and seperate a couple of things. Number one, seperate what Revis said from what he has done on the field since his injury. Take his comments the way you would from a sports writer or even a coach, or better yet, and ex-player commentator. Are his statements way off base? Forget the source, are the comments based on fact, or not? Two: Is what he said about Moss incorrect? It isn't speculation on my part to say I saw Moss dogging it and telegraphing his non-involvement in the play call. I saw what I saw, and it was as plain as day. When he is going to be involved in the play, his eyes are wide open, he's observedly keyed up and ready. When it's a running play, he looks likes he's bored, because he is. His body is so relaxed, he almost looks like he's slumped over. It's as plain as Jimmy Durante's nose on his face, not speculation at all. If you can't see that, you are blind. Then Moss apologists want to say it's OK since he's been dogging it since he got into the NFL? So, being lazy and lacking team commitment is somehow more acceptable from him because that is what he does all the time? Even after Revis called him out on it... he didn't change a thing. Moss is a lazy self interested football player. Don't EVEN try to explain Belichick's jetisoning of this guy in early mid season any other way. It never ends well with Moss. He is a guy who is the epitomy of the ME NFL football player. As good as he can be, teams keep unloading him. The reasons for that are easy to see for anyone that has their eyes open.

+1Don't expect the Moss "fanboys" to acknowledge that anything you said has merit. But I think your analysis is spot on.And, for the record, I am not "anti" Moss. In fact, he was the first WR I picked in the only FF league I'm in this season so I would love to see him put up great stats.

 

[BassNBrew]

I kind of liked the Jets until Chase decided to be annoying last year. this year he hasn't been posting as much so I'm warming up again to the Jets.

Giants fans seem to be sparse around here. Have they learn how to use the innernets yet?

 

[az_prof]

So... Revis can be beaten when he has a very bad hammy, and that means he sucks? Revis never should have even played last night, he wasn't healthy. He wasn't "schooled' whatsoever. Revis is all about speed. Put a flat tire on and Indy car and it isn't going to run very well, is it? Try if you can to overcome your bias for a moment and seperate a couple of things. Number one, seperate what Revis said from what he has done on the field since his injury. Take his comments the way you would from a sports writer or even a coach, or better yet, and ex-player commentator. Are his statements way off base? Forget the source, are the comments based on fact, or not? Two: Is what he said about Moss incorrect? It isn't speculation on my part to say I saw Moss dogging it and telegraphing his non-involvement in the play call. I saw what I saw, and it was as plain as day. When he is going to be involved in the play, his eyes are wide open, he's observedly keyed up and ready. When it's a running play, he looks likes he's bored, because he is. His body is so relaxed, he almost looks like he's slumped over. It's as plain as Jimmy Durante's nose on his face, not speculation at all. If you can't see that, you are blind. Then Moss apologists want to say it's OK since he's been dogging it since he got into the NFL? So, being lazy and lacking team commitment is somehow more acceptable from him because that is what he does all the time? Even after Revis called him out on it... he didn't change a thing. Moss is a lazy self interested football player. Don't EVEN try to explain Belichick's jetisoning of this guy in early mid season any other way. It never ends well with Moss. He is a guy who is the epitomy of the ME NFL football player. As good as he can be, teams keep unloading him. The reasons for that are easy to see for anyone that has their eyes open.

That's crap about Moss being lazy and self-interested. I have been watching him his whole career. So when a player like Revis spouts that BS, I call BS, and I say starting putting up on the football field. Revis had a great year but he is no HOF player yet; let's see him perform like Moss has for a career.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

Beginning to really dislike Revis. There are at least 6 or 7 corners in the league right now playing at or near his level that you never hear about. I'll take Jonathan Joseph or Jabari Greer and get 95% of the performance at 50% of the price and 0% of the distraction.

 

[-jb-]

Revis has spent a lot of time lately trailing Randy Moss and Percy Harvin into the end zone as they score touchdowns. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.

::topgun::

Let me ask you something. If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you?

Absolutely. I'm a huge Revis fan. I think he got absolutely jobbed for DPOY last season. No way Woodson should have won it over him. I'm just saying that Revis shouldn't be doing so much talking. He hasn't played all that well this season. Blame it on the injury (which is likely because of his own decision to hold out) but his production on the field hasn't been Revis-esque thus far. [JESTER]I don't know...I just don't know.[\JESTER]

fixed

 

[NinerFan49]

That's crap about Moss being lazy and self-interested. I have been watching him his whole career. So when a player like Revis spouts that BS, I call BS, and I say starting putting up on the football field. Revis had a great year but he is no HOF player yet; let's see him perform like Moss has for a career.

Really? Moss has never shown signs of being lazy or self-interested? And he never dogged it in Oakland? (Cue SNL "Really" skit type voice here.) Really?

 

[NinerFan49]

Beginning to really dislike Revis. There are at least 6 or 7 corners in the league right now playing at or near his level that you never hear about. I'll take Jonathan Joseph or Jabari Greer and get 95% of the performance at 50% of the price and 0% of the distraction.

Revis is very good, but I think think you're right. There's at least 3-4 corners who I think are as good. My top choice would be Nnamdi Asomugha.

 

[Rovers]

I was just watching NFLNW, and the feature where Billick and Theisman et al break down some game films. They were previewing the Ravens-Pats game, and showed a clip of Brady making a hot read to Welker when Miami blitzed.

That was by the way, Moss' last game in a Pats uniform back in week 4. Welker caught the ball in the long flat, about 2 yards over the line of scrimmage. Moss was another 5 yards downfield. Then I saw something I have NEVER seen before. Moss just stood up and looked back at Welker. As Welker ran past him, he actually put his hands on his knees and watched the play as Welker got tackled by two defenders another 5 yards downfield.

He actually put his hands on his knees and took a blow in the middle of a play. A block might have sprung Welker for another 5 yards or more. Even for Moss, I was flabbergasted. No small wonder it was his last game for New England. He sure does strange things for a guy in a contract year. What I find to be stranger yet, is that anyone would defend Moss. Fine, you don't like Revis, don't like the source, but Revis is right and if you think he is over rated that is really a different debate.

What people also forget is that this all started last year during an interview where a reporter asked what Revis thought of players like Ocho, Owens, AJ, Moss etc. He praised every single one of them, except for Moss. I guess he should have lied.

 

[nysportsfan]

Childress on Moss: He's getting beat!Favre on Moss: Naw, He's getting angry.

 

[nysportsfan]

Beginning to really dislike Revis. There are at least 6 or 7 corners in the league right now playing at or near his level that you never hear about. I'll take Jonathan Joseph or Jabari Greer and get 95% of the performance at 50% of the price and 0% of the distraction.

Gold, Jerry, GOLD!

 

[((Morpheus))]

Beginning to really dislike Revis. There are at least 6 or 7 corners in the league right now playing at or near his level that you never hear about. I'll take Jonathan Joseph or Jabari Greer and get 95% of the performance at 50% of the price and 0% of the distraction.

Revis is very good, but I think think you're right. There's at least 3-4 corners who I think are as good. My top choice would be Nnamdi Asomugha.

Asomugha is the best corner in the league by a wide margin... Revis is a distant 2nd.

 

[Mikey16x]

Giants/Jets homer... we overpaid. Sucks to see that we can probably win without Revis. Chromartie is playing lights out and Kyle Wilson isn't a bad 2nd CB. If we had traded Revis, we could have probably gotten a 1st and 3rd, which we could have probably spent on a cheaper, slightly less talented CB. At least that's my opinion..

 

[Rovers]

I would take Aso over an injured Revis too.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I was just watching NFLNW, and the feature where Billick and Theisman et al break down some game films. They were previewing the Ravens-Pats game, and showed a clip of Brady making a hot read to Welker when Miami blitzed. That was by the way, Moss' last game in a Pats uniform back in week 4. Welker caught the ball in the long flat, about 2 yards over the line of scrimmage. Moss was another 5 yards downfield. Then I saw something I have NEVER seen before. Moss just stood up and looked back at Welker. As Welker ran past him, he actually put his hands on his knees and watched the play as Welker got tackled by two defenders another 5 yards downfield. He actually put his hands on his knees and took a blow in the middle of a play. A block might have sprung Welker for another 5 yards or more. Even for Moss, I was flabbergasted. No small wonder it was his last game for New England. He sure does strange things for a guy in a contract year. What I find to be stranger yet, is that anyone would defend Moss. Fine, you don't like Revis, don't like the source, but Revis is right and if you think he is over rated that is really a different debate. What people also forget is that this all started last year during an interview where a reporter asked what Revis thought of players like Ocho, Owens, AJ, Moss etc. He praised every single one of them, except for Moss. I guess he should have lied.

Stuff like that is why always I laugh when anyone tries to say that Moss is better than Jerry Rice, or even as close to as great as he was.

 

[NinerFan49]

Giants/Jets homer... we overpaid. Sucks to see that we can probably win without Revis. Chromartie is playing lights out and Kyle Wilson isn't a bad 2nd CB. If we had traded Revis, we could have probably gotten a 1st and 3rd, which we could have probably spent on a cheaper, slightly less talented CB. At least that's my opinion..

Maybe the Jets blowhard HC shouldn't have repeatedly trumpeted his claim that Revis was "the best player in the NFL"? Looks like them chickens came home to roost with a vengeance...

 

[NinerFan49]

Stuff like that is why always I laugh when anyone tries to say that Moss is better than Jerry Rice, or even as close to as great as he was.

+1I imagine Rice must have short-armed a pass or two to avoid getting blown up at some point in his storied career... But I can't remember a single instance. With Moss, it's almost a weekly thing...

 

[njherdfan]

Giants/Jets homer... we overpaid. Sucks to see that we can probably win without Revis. Chromartie is playing lights out and Kyle Wilson isn't a bad 2nd CB. If we had traded Revis, we could have probably gotten a 1st and 3rd, which we could have probably spent on a cheaper, slightly less talented CB. At least that's my opinion..

Have you watched Wilson play this year? He's been beaten like a drum any time he has to play on the outside, and he has an awful habit of not finding the ball. All of this talk about overpaying for Revis will go away once he's healthy.

 

[njherdfan]

I would take Aso over an injured Revis too.

I love the Jets fans who say that Cromartie is doing just as well as Revis did last year, then you look at the stats and see that Marshall had a great game against him, and Moss (Minny edition) put up 80+ yds and a TD. Then you look at what Revis did last year, and it's clear: Cromartie is a very good player having a very good year. 2009 Darelle Revis had a season for the ages, and Jets fans need to hope that once he gets healthy he can return to that level.

 

[Rovers]

So... Revis can be beaten when he has a very bad hammy, and that means he sucks? Revis never should have even played last night, he wasn't healthy. He wasn't "schooled' whatsoever. Revis is all about speed. Put a flat tire on and Indy car and it isn't going to run very well, is it? Try if you can to overcome your bias for a moment and seperate a couple of things. Number one, seperate what Revis said from what he has done on the field since his injury. Take his comments the way you would from a sports writer or even a coach, or better yet, and ex-player commentator. Are his statements way off base? Forget the source, are the comments based on fact, or not? Two: Is what he said about Moss incorrect? It isn't speculation on my part to say I saw Moss dogging it and telegraphing his non-involvement in the play call. I saw what I saw, and it was as plain as day. When he is going to be involved in the play, his eyes are wide open, he's observedly keyed up and ready. When it's a running play, he looks likes he's bored, because he is. His body is so relaxed, he almost looks like he's slumped over. It's as plain as Jimmy Durante's nose on his face, not speculation at all. If you can't see that, you are blind. Then Moss apologists want to say it's OK since he's been dogging it since he got into the NFL? So, being lazy and lacking team commitment is somehow more acceptable from him because that is what he does all the time? Even after Revis called him out on it... he didn't change a thing. Moss is a lazy self interested football player. Don't EVEN try to explain Belichick's jetisoning of this guy in early mid season any other way. It never ends well with Moss. He is a guy who is the epitomy of the ME NFL football player. As good as he can be, teams keep unloading him. The reasons for that are easy to see for anyone that has their eyes open.

That's crap about Moss being lazy and self-interested. I have been watching him his whole career. So when a player like Revis spouts that BS, I call BS, and I say starting putting up on the football field. Revis had a great year but he is no HOF player yet; let's see him perform like Moss has for a career.

You were saying.... the question is Moss, not Revis, and you can remain in denial all you want.