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Rice cut by Ravens (1 Viewer)

Yes. He rightfully deserves punishment. Making him a pariah and taking away his job, along with literally millions of dollars, is not in line with the offense.
It's a public relations league. He's one of the faces of a franchise. If I were in the news in a video knocking out my wife, I'd be fired by my job in about ten seconds, and I'm not the face of the law firm.
True, but you'd find a similar job with similar income and benefits before too long. If it took you two years to get back to your prestige/income, that would represent only a small fraction of your lifetime earning potential.

An NFL RB has no other "similar job" to turn to, and has only a few short years to his career to begin with. Two years represents up to 30% of his LIFETIME EARNINGS ....and that's assuming he can come back in two years to a paycheck similar to what he would have had if this hadn't happened.

Domestic assault is an ugly thing that needs to be taken seriously, but taking away 30-50% of a man's lifetime earnings is harsh for an offense that in the end is a simple assault. Far too harsh IMHO.
He has lost some huge percent of his lifetime professional running back earning potential, but like any other pariah, he's more than welcome to peddle his wares for a working man's wage. Plenty of warehouses and construction sites out there that would happily take a strong, healthy 30 year old without giving a second thought to the PR hit. He hasn't lost anything remotely like 30-50% of his lifetime earning timeline. He's just put himself in a position where those earnings probably can't come in a PR intensive industry.
Really? 30% in this case is upwards of 4 million dollars minimum. At 100K per year (which is far more than he would earn at the jobs you suggest), it would take 40 years just to make up for the lost money.

30% takes into account the money he's already made in the NFL...his true lifetime earnings. If you count just earnings going forward, if he is never allowed back into the NFL the figure is closer to 75%.
Yes, really. Nobody promised this guy 4 million dollars a year for life when he was born, nor is that part of his set of fundamental rights as a human being. He was in the entertainment industry, and made himself poisonous to the public. He isn't being punished for hitting his wife/fiancee by having money taken away; he's being fired from his job as an entertainer because the public has cried out that they no longer want to be entertained by him.

But that doesn't mean he has to live out the rest of his life without being gainfully employed. He has 30 or 40 good earning years left if he sees fit to use them. If he's especially motivated and creative, he can even use that time to earn far more than he did playing football. He probably won't, but let's not confuse that with the idea that his ability to support himself has been permanently severed. Men lose professional football jobs all the time because they don't help the team entertain their clientele -- i.e., they don't make the team more likely to win. He just lost his because he hurt the team in pursuit of that goal in a somewhat different way. :shrug:

He'll get on with his life just like the rest do. Or he won't. I won't shed a tear either way, just like I didn't when the Falcons cut poor Cupcake.

 
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The girl didn't press charges and I think she has a better perspective than both of us.Yeah, her husband hit her. She got past it, married him and now you just cost her husband her job.

If this is really about the girl and her struggle, you made her life a living hell for doing this to her husband.
Daniel Jay ‏@ventriloquist 3m

What kind of world are we living in when you can't even punch your wife in the privacy of an elevator? #rayrice #bigbrother #pathetic
 
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Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
Whether she presses charges is irrelevant if they have the video.

 
To the people calling for his head now...what the hell did you think he had done before you saw this video??? We already knew the woman was knocked out cold. He was dragging her dead weight body off the elevator. I figured he had hit her multiple times. One punch was far less than I was expecting to see.
Great post. I guess there's a lot of very naive, trusting people in the world who need to see it with their own eyes to believe it. It's both funny and a little sad to see everyone backtracking now that the video is out. It's two games if you knock out your wife and nobody sees it. It's an indefinite suspension if the video is released to the public.Both the justice system and the NFL look like incompetent idiots right now, and I've lost a lot of respect for both institutions. It says a lot about our country that we throw the book at harmless potheads, yet abusive psychos like Ray Rice get away scott free. I hope this ends up costing Roger Goodell his job. That would be the only good thing to come out of this mess.

 
I really hate the mainstream media and how they invade people's lives.

Yes, everyone. People make mistakes. I'm sure everyone in their life has done at least one or two things that we regret. But when these things happen it should be used to allow the person to grow, not to be ridiculed on a grand stage.

America has no culture and definitely no class.
This is so interesting. I think ridicule is well deserved in this scenario. For the NFL, the NJ district attorney, the Ravens, certain media types, and especially Ray Rice. I'm sure some people are fans of the team or have Rice on their fantasy squad, and this have a self-focused perspective and can't quite see past that. Others just don't like to see people punished for wrong-doing. Fortunately, those two segments represent a really small minority in our culture.
The girl didn't press charges and I think she has a better perspective than both of us.

Yeah, her husband hit her. She got past it, married him and now you just cost her husband her job.

If this is really about the girl and her struggle, you made her life a living hell for doing this to her husband.
This clearly exposes how ignorant you are about domestic violence. Ordinarily, I'd say an opinion like this is worthless and to be ignored. But, in this case, opinions like this are dangerous and serve to keep violence in the home. But, I trust most others will see how obvious that is and ignore all content you hammer out, as I certainly will do.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.

 
Killing men while drunk driving, allowed back in the league.

Punch a woman, and get banned from the NFL and should receive death.
######ed, isn't it? It's all about how much info about a situation that can be kept in the closet
Let me be clear, Ray Rice is a doosh, he deserved a stiffer penalty. Problem is I believe in due process. He was already punished for his infraction/mistake/crime, now he is punished again because people saw what they already knew. He shouldnt be punished further.

Self righteousness on this topic is through the roof.
This.His punishment should have been stiffer from the start, but this is too far now.
That's BS, based on that video he should have been in jail and missing the year already. The amount you are defending this guy is sickening.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
Those horrible men who rudely interrupted Jeffrey Dahmer's dinner.

 
I really hate the mainstream media and how they invade people's lives.

Yes, everyone. People make mistakes. I'm sure everyone in their life has done at least one or two things that we regret. But when these things happen it should be used to allow the person to grow, not to be ridiculed on a grand stage.

America has no culture and definitely no class.
This is so interesting. I think ridicule is well deserved in this scenario. For the NFL, the NJ district attorney, the Ravens, certain media types, and especially Ray Rice. I'm sure some people are fans of the team or have Rice on their fantasy squad, and this have a self-focused perspective and can't quite see past that. Others just don't like to see people punished for wrong-doing. Fortunately, those two segments represent a really small minority in our culture.
The girl didn't press charges and I think she has a better perspective than both of us.

Yeah, her husband hit her. She got past it, married him and now you just cost her husband her job.

If this is really about the girl and her struggle, you made her life a living hell for doing this to her husband.
This clearly exposes how ignorant you are about domestic violence. Ordinarily, I'd say an opinion like this is worthless and to be ignored. But, in this case, opinions like this are dangerous and serve to keep violence in the home. But, I trust most others will see how obvious that is and ignore all content you hammer out, as I certainly will do.
Very well written. Thank you for posting that.
 
Killing men while drunk driving, allowed back in the league.

Punch a woman, and get banned from the NFL and should receive death.
######ed, isn't it? It's all about how much info about a situation that can be kept in the closet
Let me be clear, Ray Rice is a doosh, he deserved a stiffer penalty. Problem is I believe in due process. He was already punished for his infraction/mistake/crime, now he is punished again because people saw what they already knew. He shouldnt be punished further.

Self righteousness on this topic is through the roof.
This.His punishment should have been stiffer from the start, but this is too far now.
That's BS, based on that video he should have been in jail and missing the year already. The amount you are defending this guy is sickening.
If you feel that strongly, how do you feel about Greg Hardy, who was convicted, appealed, and in fact played yesterday?

Earlier in the morning the accuser testified that she was assaulted by Hardy at his apartment after a night of drinking. She also said Hardy threatened to kill her and put his hands around her neck.

"He looked me in my eyes and he told me he was going to kill me," said the accuser, a 24-year-old cocktail waitress in downtown Charlotte. "I was so scared I wanted to die. When he loosened his grip slightly, I said just, `Do it. Kill me."

The accuser said she had used cocaine on the night of the incident and had been drinking.

She described Hardy as jealous and controlling, mentioning several times that Hardy didn't allow her do some things because he often paid her rent. She said she didn't immediately give police a statement out of fear of retribution.

"He had told me in past if I took food out of his family's mouth he was going to kill me," the accuser said.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?

 
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
I have news for you. No one is preventing anyone from joining other teams. Rice can sign with anyone right now. No one wants him, he's toxic right now.

Actually, I stand corrected. There is someone preventing Rice from having an NFL job: Ray Rice.

He underestimated how much most NFL fans would react to video footage of him dropping his girl with a left hook, watching her bang her head off a railing, then nudge her in disgust with his foot.

As to Larry Fitzgerald, you know what? If he had been dumb enough to coldcock his lady on film, I am guessing this would have happened sooner.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
From Forbes.com(T)hose who know him really like him. It’s enough to declare Fitzgerald the most-liked player in the NFL, according to the latest surveys from E-Poll Market Research, an Encino, Calif.-based firm that tracks the marketing power of celebrities through its E-Score, compiled by measuring dozens of attributes including awareness, likability, and other perceived qualities like influence, talent and confidence.

In this case, we’re narrowing the focus to likability and awareness – who do people “like” or “like a lot” among NFL players that register a minimum awareness level of 10% of the public. Fitzgerald leads the pack with a whopping 74%.
Fans like Larry Fitzgerald. They don't like Ray Rice. That's why Larry has a job. It isn't the NFL's job to mete out justice. It's their job to get people to like and watch the NFL.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
did fitz punch his gf in the head, too?

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
did fitz punch his gf in the head, too?
Slammed it into a marble floor, if I recall correctly.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
did fitz punch his gf in the head, too?
I believe he ripped her hair out.

 
Furthermore, the girl never pressed charges. Should it not be by her consent to have that video tape released?

She is the victim after all, is there a known police report? Somebody is going to end up somebody if this doesn't get negotiated.
She refused to press charges, and Rice agreed to an intervention program to avoid jail time.

Her consent? Umm, it's not her tape.

I get that some of you think Rice is getting railroaded by the NFL here, but this is power of the people, boys. This is Twitter, and social media, and the NFL finding out-within seconds-exactly what people think of what they saw. The talking heads smell blood, and they are all tripping over themselves to pander to that crowd, and be the anti-Stephen A. Smith. The NFL can follow trending topics on Twitter, and they are fully aware that the vast majority of their fans don't really care about pot, but really don't like seeing a man knock his girlfriend out.

The Ravens and the NFL has heard, and they are listening. It's not up to the Ravens to decide what should be between a man and a woman, but is up to them to employ whoever the heck they want. Or not.
I don't think strangers should invade in the personal lives of others.
You mean like police arresting men for beating their girlfriends? Those kind of strangers?
And then ban then from joining other teams? Why is Larry Fitzgerald still playing? There's just as much in a police report against Larry Fitzgerald as there is Ray Rice. Neither have been convicted of anything, yet only one is banned? Is this video the only qualification for banning Rice?
did fitz punch his gf in the head, too?
Slammed it into a marble floor, if I recall correctly.
in that case I'd place blame on the floor

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
"Hello, hotel? May we have your private security footage?"

"No."
The NFL is kind of a big deal, they might be able to convince a few folks to give them what they want. It's possible.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
"Hello, hotel? May we have your private security footage?"

"No."
If thats the case, how did the initial footage outside the elevator get out if its so private?

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
"Hello, hotel? May we have your private security footage?""No."
The NFL is kind of a big deal, they might be able to convince a few folks to give them what they want. It's possible.
Not very likely for a casino to just go ahead and hand over security footage. Bad for business.
 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
"Hello, hotel? May we have your private security footage?""No."
If thats the case, how did the initial footage outside the elevator get out if its so private?
Wasn't that also TMZ?
 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
 
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
Sure, wouldn't want to stand in the way of justice. BTW, there are a lot of legal folks who need to be called out as Rice was acquitted or given a slap on the wrist, would like to know if they had this footage. Keith Olberman had one heckuva monologue on his show tonight, about sums up my feelings, you might want to check it out but I am irate with Goodell all the way down through the Ravens front office, there's plenty of blame to go around besides just Ray Rice who should be in prison right now.

 
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Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
Sure, wouldn't want to stand in the way of justice. BTW, there are a lot of legal folks who need to be called out as Rice was acquitted or given a slap on the wrist, would like to know if they had this footage. Keith Olberman had one heckuva monologue on his show tonight, about sums up my feelings, you might want to check it out but I am irate with Goodell all the way down through the Ravens front office, there's plenty of blame to go around besides just Ray Rice who should be in prison right now.
Link.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
"Hello, hotel? May we have your private security footage?"

"No."
If thats the case, how did the initial footage outside the elevator get out if its so private?
The video would not have been so difficult to obtain. I am certain the prosecutor's office had access to it. With an agreement from Ray Rice, that discoverable evidence could have been turned over to the league. Commissioner Goodell could have demanded Ray Rice cooperate by allowing the league access. I don't see how the NFL.can make a valid argument they simply could not obtain the video. I'm calling BS on this one, if that is their claim.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I obviously don't think it was unattainable - but the NFL isn't going to pay good money for it.
 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I obviously don't think it was unattainable - but the NFL isn't going to pay good money for it.
I dont see how you think when a crime is committed that security footage only goes to the highest bidder.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I don't know that they're necessarily connected. King and Mort could have simply heard what Rice told Baltimore happened in the elevator.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I don't know that they're necessarily connected. King and Mort could have simply heard what Rice told Baltimore happened in the elevator.
But why reference the video then and not just say they heard? They would lie just to sound like its from a video?

 
Suspended by NFL indefinitely.
now this is also absurd. Why can't the NFL just tack on 4 games to make his suspension in line with the new policy (even though that's bs too, ex post facto etc) Patently unfair to Ravens as well.
Kind of a Donald Sterling like example being made I guess......except Rice won't see quite the payday.
Bad publicity is the worst offense a member of any sports league can commit.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I obviously don't think it was unattainable - but the NFL isn't going to pay good money for it.
I dont see how you think when a crime is committed that security footage only goes to the highest bidder.
This was all in response to the question, "How could they not?"

I don't think anyone's saying it's impossible the NFL had the footage. I think people are merely saying it's also entirely possible they didn't, and that we can't simply rule out narratives that follow that path.

 
Rice is a scumbag, but he's the victim of the NFL feeling the immense pressure of the 2 game suspension. I can't believe for a second that with all the resources the NFL has, they just saw the video.
How would they get it?
How could they not?
Let's say someone called you and asked for your company's security footage. What's your response?
One tape got out, why couldnt this one?
It did get out. Once TMZ managed to pay someone for it. Just like the first one.
Reporters are backtracking now but there were sources providing Mort and King with info on this video including her hitting her head on the rail.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/jay-glazer-adam-schefter-among-those-outraged-at-nfl-over-new-ray-rice-video/

If you really believe this footage form this prestigious New Jersey casino on the verge of bankruptcy was unattainable you have blinders on.
I don't know that they're necessarily connected. King and Mort could have simply heard what Rice told Baltimore happened in the elevator.
But why reference the video then and not just say they heard? They would lie just to sound like its from a video?
Depends on what they were told. How many times do sources tell these guys something that's not 100% accurate?

 

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