Rick Dennison - Vikings coach role may change due to not getting vaccine (1 Viewer)

[ignatiusjreilly]

Youre explaining something that everyone knows. 

Back to my question.  If wearing a mask is acceptable EVERYWHERE if you are not vaccinated why is it not ok with the Minnesota Vikings?  

You see, you claim to understand it, but in the next breath you indicate that you don't seem to get the level of protection offered by masks relative to vaccines. Because if you did understand, the answer to your question would be pretty obvious.

Also, even though it was the entire point of my original post that you responded to, you don't seem to understand that the rules around unvaccinated employees came from the NFL, not the Vikings. Minnesota had to make their decision on Dennison on the basis of the league's restrictions. So far, they seem to have determined that the costs imposed by those restrictions are too steep for it to be worth keeping him in his position.

 

[supermike80]

You see, you claim to understand it, but in the next breath you indicate that you don't seem to get the level of protection offered by masks relative to vaccines. Because if you did understand, the answer to your question would be pretty obvious.

Also, even though it was the entire point of my original post that you responded to, you don't seem to understand that the rules around unvaccinated employees came from the NFL, not the Vikings. Minnesota had to make their decision on Dennison on the basis of the league's restrictions. So far, they seem to have determined that the costs imposed by those restrictions are too steep for it to be worth keeping him in his position.

Still not answering the question. 

Sigh.

 

[AAABatteries]

Still not answering the question. 

Sigh.

Because it's the rule - how do you know Minnesota's owner and management wouldn't be fine with him wearing a mask but they can't allow it because of the NFL rule.  Sounds like your issue should first be with the NFL.

 

[supermike80]

Because it's the rule - how do you know Minnesota's owner and management wouldn't be fine with him wearing a mask but they can't allow it because of the NFL rule.  Sounds like your issue should first be with the NFL.

Not the question.   That wasn't the question.

I understand,  for the billionth time, that it's the rule.   

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Still not answering the question. 

Sigh.

I did answer it, but apparently I used big words that confused you, so let's try again.

If wearing a mask is acceptable EVERYWHERE if you are not vaccinated why is it not ok with the Minnesota Vikings?  

BECAUSE A MASK OFFERS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS PROTECTION THAN A VACCINE, AND NO ONE BELIEVES, HAS SUGGESTED OR HAS IMPLEMENTED ANY POLICIES THAT TREAT MASKS AS AN EQUAL SUBSTITUTE FOR VACCINES.

(For the record, I don't for a minute actually think you're this dense. I think it's part of your whole schtick. But if you're going to keep playing dumb, I see no reason I shouldn't just go with it and assume you actually are. Besides, it's more fun that way.)

 

[AAABatteries]

Not the question.   That wasn't the question.

I understand,  for the billionth time, that it's the rule.   

I'm not sure if I should bother but you typed, "If wearing a mask is acceptable EVERYWHERE if you are not vaccinated why is it not ok with the Minnesota Vikings?"

It being the rule is an answer to that.  If you are saying that Minnesota still wouldn't let him do it and you want to know why then the answer to your question is MONEY.

 

[supermike80]

I'm not sure if I should bother but you typed, "If wearing a mask is acceptable EVERYWHERE if you are not vaccinated why is it not ok with the Minnesota Vikings?"

It being the rule is an answer to that.  If you are saying that Minnesota still wouldn't let him do it and you want to know why then the answer to your question is MONEY.

Nope. Not the question.  Sorry you don't understand.  Its broader than just the Vikings. But thats ok.   Thank you for your thoughts

 

[supermike80]

I did answer it, but apparently I used big words that confused you, so let's try again.

BECAUSE A MASK OFFERS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS PROTECTION THAN A VACCINE, AND NO ONE BELIEVES, HAS SUGGESTED OR HAS IMPLEMENTED ANY POLICIES THAT TREAT MASKS AS AN EQUAL SUBSTITUTE FOR VACCINES.

(For the record, I don't for a minute actually think you're this dense. I think it's part of your whole schtick. But if you're going to keep playing dumb, I see no reason I shouldn't just go with it and assume you actually are. Besides, it's more fun that way.)

Name calling really isn't nice.  Thank you for your thoughts

 

[supermike80]

I did answer it, but apparently I used big words that confused you, so let's try again.

BECAUSE A MASK OFFERS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS PROTECTION THAN A VACCINE, AND NO ONE BELIEVES, HAS SUGGESTED OR HAS IMPLEMENTED ANY POLICIES THAT TREAT MASKS AS AN EQUAL SUBSTITUTE FOR VACCINES.

(For the record, I don't for a minute actually think you're this dense. I think it's part of your whole schtick. But if you're going to keep playing dumb, I see no reason I shouldn't just go with it and assume you actually are. Besides, it's more fun that way.)

And by the way, you're 2000% wrong.   There are signs that say, if you are not vaccinated you must wear a mask.  Soooo what does that mean? 

Sounds like an either or to me

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Name calling really isn't nice.  Thank you for your thoughts

Hey, I did say I didn't actually believe you were as dumb as your posts made you sound. Learn how to take a compliment!

And by the way, you're 2000% wrong.   There are signs that say, if you are not vaccinated you must wear a mask.  Soooo what does that mean? 

Sounds like an either or to me

Sigh.

I literally explained this distinction like two pages ago, and you got all indignant and said, "Everyone understands this." So you see why I get frustrated?

If you see a sign somewhere that says employees must be vaccinated, but if they're not vaccinated then wearing a mask is a sufficient substitute, please take a picture and post it here. But I suspect all you will find is unenforceable suggestions by businesses toward their customers in scenarios where they have no interest and/or means to check anyone's vaccination status and masking is literally the only restriction available to them. Wal-Mart can't tell its customers, "If you're unvaccinated you have to get tested and quarantine yourself for two days and then shop in a separate section of the store," especially when they don't even know who's actually vaccinated. 

That is a completely different situation from the NFL. Employers who know their employees' vaccination status and have leverage over them typically impose far more onerous requirements than simple masking, precisely because they know that the latter would offer insufficient protection.

Does THAT answer your question?

 

[supermike80]

Hey, I did say I didn't actually believe you were as dumb as your posts made you sound. Learn how to take a compliment!

Sigh.

I literally explained this distinction like two pages ago, and you got all indignant and said, "Everyone understands this." So you see why I get frustrated?

If you see a sign somewhere that says employees must be vaccinated, but if they're not vaccinated then wearing a mask is a sufficient substitute, please take a picture and post it here. But I suspect all you will find is unenforceable suggestions by businesses toward their customers in scenarios where they have no interest and/or means to check anyone's vaccination status and masking is literally the only restriction available to them. Wal-Mart can't tell its customers, "If you're unvaccinated you have to get tested and quarantine yourself for two days and then shop in a separate section of the store," especially when they don't even know who's actually vaccinated. 

That is a completely different situation from the NFL. Employers who know their employees' vaccination status and have leverage over them typically impose far more onerous requirements than simple masking, precisely because they know that the latter would offer insufficient protection.

Does THAT answer your question?

Ugh no.  It doesn't.  Yet you keep repeating it over and over.  Its ok you don't understand.  

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Ugh no.  It doesn't.  Yet you keep repeating it over and over.  Its ok you don't understand.  

Why don’t you give us a specific example of a business with a vaccine mandate for its employees saying that a mask is a sufficient substitute for the unvaccinated? If there are signs everywhere you go I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding one

 

[supermike80]

Why don’t you give us a specific example of a business with a vaccine mandate for its employees saying that a mask is a sufficient substitute for the unvaccinated? If there are signs everywhere you go I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding one

Dude.  Why do you keep repeating the same thing. You don't get it.  Makes sense.  Usually the name callers do that for a reason.  

 

[dawgtrails]

I have zero idea what you two are arguing about

 

[Joe Bryant]

Both of you drop it please.