RIP Ron Dayne? (1 Viewer)

[footballguide1]

Of course it was the first preseason game, but based on his results against the 3rd string Det D is it time to send him to the waiver wire or is there still a chance he can be the man in Denver? OR would it be best to avoid the situation at all costs. Just wanting to get the general consensus of the board.

 

[SSOG]

A tip... if a guy is competing for the #1 tailback job... if he is, by all reports, second in line for that job if the guy ahead of him falters... and if the guy ahead of him does the one thing that the coach says he CAN'T DO... then that's not the time to cut this hypothetical player.

Seriously, Dayne has more of a life tonight than he did last night- not because of how he looked, but because of how Mike Bell looked.

It's one game, and not any reason to overreact one way or another. I just think it'd be silly to cut Dayne on a night when his position only improved.

 

[MLBrandow]

remember... it's all just one big motivational ploy for Tatum Bell

 

[pizzatyme]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

 

[Slinger]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

He fumbled and played like, well, Mike Bell.

 

[SSOG]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

NFL.com answers all your game-related questions .Click the "Game Stats" for Denver/Detroit and look under "fumbles".

 

[SSOG]

Large (Marge) type RBs who have neither the ability to move piles, nor the speed to separate, rarely hang around too long in today's NFL. If Mike Bell cannot cut it and/or isn't being showcased, expect Denver to move Lelie to a team who has another RB who can compliment Tatum Bell. Ron Dayne is a blatant waste of oxygen.

According to Legwold, Denver has stopped shopping for RBs entirely. And if Legwold says it, I tend to take it as gospel.

 

[LHUCKS]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

 

[Chaz]

After thinking about the Dayne bandwagon, I can see myself just avoiding this situation altogether.

 

[ffnut]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

He fumbled and played like, well, Mike Bell.

I didn't think that he looked all that bad before the fumble. Granted, it was only a few carries but I thought he was fine. Don't get me wrong though - the fumble was huge and that can't continue if he wants to have any shot at all...no way Shanny puts up with that.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

He fumbled and played like, well, Mike Bell.

I didn't think that he looked all that bad before the fumble. Granted, it was only a few carries but I thought he was fine. Don't get me wrong though - the fumble was huge and that can't continue if he wants to have any shot at all...no way Shanny puts up with that.

I believed someone predicted this.ats self on back:

 

[pghrob]

For the last 3 years, I get caught up in the speculative game of which Denver RB Shanahan will offer us FFB players. I also did it with Mike Tice and the Vikings. At times, the speculation in these backfield battles seems like such a drain on the brain and often not worth the hassle.

Nonetheless, I find myself continuing to go back to the trough for more....the reason? Last year, the Denver RB battle analysis pre-draft paid dividends, as Mike Anderson was there in our draft at 11.02 with too much upside. I grabbed him fast.

Now, maybe that was simply too much upside to pass at that draft position, but the fact that I had painstakingly followed the Shanahan RB derby kept me in tuned during the draft....and when I passed on him at 10.11, I knew I would have to nab him at the turn.

A guy in our league drafted Tater Bell last year in the 3rd round and failed to handcuff any other Denver RB. MA was a big contributer to my championship.

The point of all this?

Put sometime in keeping up with this derby and see what shakes out. Take advantage if the other guys in the league draft one of the others too early and then everybody else passes on a handcuff.

 

[GiantsRule]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

I don't know why you're laughing. It's solid advice. Dayne is a still a worthless tub of goo. One impressive showing on Thanksgiving Day doesn't mean he's not a colossal bust (in more ways than one).

 

[gregjcross]

IT is a fantasy to think that DEN is just gonig to trade A.Lelie and get an RB. They cant. Who they have is who they have. I rank them M. Bell/ T.Bell/C.Sapp/R. Dayne. I predict all will stickThe JETS are first in line to get an RB from the market and they havent yet. Michael Bennet (who was the market) is already traded, I figure someone in JAX is next but not highly likely. CHI is ***NOT*** going to trade one of its backs as both are rarely healthy at the same time and A. Peterson is not that great. + they will rely heavily on their ground game with their lack of passing continuity.

Large (Marge) type RBs who have neither the ability to move piles, nor the speed to separate, rarely hang around too long in today's NFL. If Mike Bell cannot cut it and/or isn't being showcased, expect Denver to move Lelie to a team who has another RB who can compliment Tatum Bell. Ron Dayne is a blatant waste of oxygen.

 

[teamramrod]

Of course it was the first preseason game, but based on his results against the 3rd string Det D

Deirty little trick by Marinelli and Henderson here. They wanted to win and some starters on D were in there in the fourth quarter. Just one or two, here and there. But it made a difference. Just my two cents on the topic.

 

[zamboni]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

I don't know why you're laughing. It's solid advice. Dayne is a still a worthless tub of goo. One impressive showing on Thanksgiving Day doesn't mean he's not a colossal bust (in more ways than one).

I think if you own Dayne, you absolutely should hold on. With seemingly no clear cut, take charge RB, the situation could be a week-to-week thing, and Dayne could have some value down the line at some point.

 

[John Mamula]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

He fumbled and played like, well, Mike Bell.

He fumbled?Shocking.

 

[GiantsRule]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

I don't know why you're laughing. It's solid advice. Dayne is a still a worthless tub of goo. One impressive showing on Thanksgiving Day doesn't mean he's not a colossal bust (in more ways than one).

I think if you own Dayne, you absolutely should hold on. With seemingly no clear cut, take charge RB, the situation could be a week-to-week thing, and Dayne could have some value down the line at some point.

Late round sleeper? Perhaps? 4th-6th round selection?

 

[zamboni]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

I don't know why you're laughing. It's solid advice. Dayne is a still a worthless tub of goo. One impressive showing on Thanksgiving Day doesn't mean he's not a colossal bust (in more ways than one).

I think if you own Dayne, you absolutely should hold on. With seemingly no clear cut, take charge RB, the situation could be a week-to-week thing, and Dayne could have some value down the line at some point.

Late round sleeper? Perhaps? 4th-6th round selection?

Unless Because things change until the season starts, late round sounds about right. If M. Bell falls off the radar screen by then, he and Tatum will both go first, leaving Dayne later on.

 

[JohnnyU]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

I don't know why you're laughing. It's solid advice. Dayne is a still a worthless tub of goo. One impressive showing on Thanksgiving Day doesn't mean he's not a colossal bust (in more ways than one).

I think if you own Dayne, you absolutely should hold on. With seemingly no clear cut, take charge RB, the situation could be a week-to-week thing, and Dayne could have some value down the line at some point.

Late round sleeper? Perhaps? 4th-6th round selection?

I wouldn't call 4th-6th as late round, but I got him at 8.10 in a startup dynasty league when his value was high. I'd say he should go later than that now.

 

[diesel7982]

Yes. You should cut Dayne in all of your leagues.

Hell, continue drafting him as a 3rd or 4th rounder for that matter.

 

[parasaurolophus]

dayne's only value right now is based on the fact that some people think he might actually end up being the starter. I say trade him for any reasonable offer and pray that he has one good preseason game so you can get a reasonable offer.

i went to UW madison when Dayne was there. Obviously liked im in college as he was a beast, most of the time. But i also remember Dayne looking like a little girl almost everytime he faced any respectable run defense. His game logs against ohio state, michigan, georgia, syracuse, and iowa are very poor. I think one year against ohio state he had like 22 carries for 55 yards. It was pitiful. I think in all 4 years he only had one good game against ohio state and michigan, who were the class of the big ten.

the writing was on the wall that he was going to struggle in the NFL. People always thought he had surprising speed for such a big guy, but what they didnt realize is the fact that he had 4-5 yards of no contact to build up that speed. The holes he ran through were monstrous. I mean look at the numbers the Badger running backs put up in the Alvarez era, they are huge. Look at the NFL numbers of badger backs from the Alvarez era, they are poor in comparison.

 

[lod2005]

Can someone tell me when Dayne was ever anything other than a backup NFL RB?

 

[SSOG]

IT is a fantasy to think that DEN is just gonig to trade A.Lelie and get an RB. They cant. Who they have is who they have. I rank them M. Bell/ T.Bell/C.Sapp/R. Dayne. I predict all will stick

How many carries did Cecil Sapp get last night?I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

 

[tecmo bo]

just got back from my draft. dyane lasted all the way to 20.07. tatum bell went at 7.02 and mike bell went at 9.02.

 

[wannabee]

I missed the game, what did Mike Ball do that was so bad? Thanks!

He fumbled and played like, well, Mike Bell.

He fumbled?Shocking.

he did come from the Conference of Champions ..............

 

[CA_7]

I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

Maybe because Shannahan thinks he is talented enough to possibly be a tailback as well?While he seems intrenched as the fullback for now, you can't ignore Shannahan's POV and past success he has had with converting FB to productive TBs

 

[duaneok66]

IT is a fantasy to think that DEN is just gonig to trade A.Lelie and get an RB. They cant. Who they have is who they have. I rank them M. Bell/ T.Bell/C.Sapp/R. Dayne. I predict all will stick

How many carries did Cecil Sapp get last night?I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

zero carries for Sapp . . .

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Of course it was the first preseason game, but based on his results against the 3rd string Det D is it time to send him to the waiver wire or is there still a chance he can be the man in Denver?

Who is on your league's waiver wire right now that you'd cut Dayne for?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

Right, because Shanahan has zero history of turning a fullback into a tailback....

 

[qimqam]

Of course it was the first preseason game, but based on his results against the 3rd string Det D is it time to send him to the waiver wire or is there still a chance he can be the man in Denver?

Who is on your league's waiver wire right now that you'd cut Dayne for?

Clarett.

 

[SSOG]

I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

Maybe because Shannahan thinks he is talented enough to possibly be a tailback as well?While he seems intrenched as the fullback for now, you can't ignore Shannahan's POV and past success he has had with converting FB to productive TBs

I have no idea where this Cecil Sapp love is coming from. He's a fullback. A *STARTING* fullback. Fullback != Tailback.

Right, because Shanahan has zero history of turning a fullback into a tailback....

Shanahan has zero history of turning a fullback into a tailback UNLESS ALL FOUR RBS AHEAD OF HIM ARE INJURED OR OUT.Another point worth mentioning- Manderson was not a FB that got converted to RB. He was an RB who got converted to FB and then later back to RB. He *NEVER* got significant carries in a season where he reported as the fullback. Reuben Droughns was likewise drafted by Detroit as an RB, and later got converted to a FB. He only got significant carries in the season where the four RBs ahead of him didn't all go down.Drafting or stashing Cecil Sapp and saying "Shanny has a history of turning FBs into starting RBs" is sort of like drafting an undrafted free agent RB on Green Bay and saying "Green Bay has a history of turning undrafted rookie free agents into studs". Sure, it happened last year, but remember the surrounding circumstances.

 

[Lightning Fast Whip]

If I were Dayne and could hang around in NFL as anything I'd be happy. But time to realize he isn't a feature RB. If he ever becomes one that team is desperate or foolish.