Robert Meachem 2012 (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

Meachem will be a FA this offseason. Is it better for him to stay in NO or go? If Colston stays, it seems like it would be better for him to go where he can be a starter, even with a lesser QB.

Cincinnati Enquirer mentioned Meachem as a possible pairing with AJ Green, although it sounds more like a reporter speculating than anything official from the team.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120110/SPT02/301100144/Who-will-pair-J-Green-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|p

I have watched Meachem evolve from a receiver who didn't know how to run routes and was inconsistent in his use of hands, to one who is above average as a route runner and now catches with hands consistently. He has above average speed and size. Depending on where he goes, he could be an emerging player in 2012.

 

[FavreCo]

Prime candidate to be signed by the likes of Jax. If the goto and win the SB and he puts up a good game, he will take the biggest payday he can get. Similar to Holmes who now #####es about his QB. Sometimes it's better to sign for less and play with the better QB.

 

[Warpig]

If he goes to Jax, he has ZERO value. Unless they bring in a QB.

I don't think he'd have much value in Cinci either. New Orleans passes the ball a lot and I think he has better value in that kind of an offense rather than being a #2 on an average team.

Now, if he were to go to someplace to be the #1 WR (other than Jacksonville), that could be intriguing.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Meachem has talent. The problem is I think you want your #1 to be really good at something. Meachem is pretty good at a lot of things but doesn't really shine in any aspect of the game, except for maybe blocking.

I like the guy but he is a prototypical #2.

 

[az_prof]

I could see him going to Denver too. He has similar ability to Thomas and would be a nice complement to Tebow's deep passing style.

Jax is a possibility.

Cinn as the #2

Seattle

SD if VJax goes

Houston (AJ is aging and we saw that behind him HOU lacks WR depth)

MN (Harvin is all they have and he is not prototypical #1)

CAR (Steve Smith is no spring chicken)

Bears (they have nothing)

Cleveland (Greg Little is all they have)

Redskins (Moss will be 32 and the other guys are just guys)

There are a lot of possible landing places. Of these, I think he would be a better fantasy player in most of these than in NO.

Better in CINN, SD, HOU, MN, Bears, Seattle

Worse in Jax, CAR, CLE, Redskins

 

[saintfool]

i think he sticks around in NO unless someone overpays for him. i think devery is a FA too and they have a very similar skill set.

 

[Crippler]

He kind of reminds me of James Jones last off-season but I think less talented in the end.

He was the guy everyone talked about going to certain spots and than ends back up with GB as really insurance and #3 guy.

The market for Meachum will probably be the same. I dont think he has what it takes to be the guy and is only an okay #2. I thought Jones might be able to be the guy but would make a very good #2.

 

[Eminence]

Arizona please take note.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Huge sell if/when he signs elsewhere.

 

[az_prof]

He kind of reminds me of James Jones last off-season but I think less talented in the end. He was the guy everyone talked about going to certain spots and than ends back up with GB as really insurance and #3 guy. The market for Meachum will probably be the same. I dont think he has what it takes to be the guy and is only an okay #2. I thought Jones might be able to be the guy but would make a very good #2.

He seems better to me than Jones but I can see that in terms of size and statistical performance to date, they are comparable. I think Jones has struggled more with bad hands than Meachem.The market will be different simply because last season FAs were sort of screwed. There was almost no time for free agency. This year will be different and it should benefit the free agents.

 

[_lurker_]

NYJ where Todd Haley finally makes Meachem into a good WR.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

NYJ where Todd Haley finally makes Meachem into a good WR.

Meachem is already a good WR. Don't confuse the lack of bulk stats to mean that he's not any good.Having said that, he hasn't shown that he can be the main guy. And Colston has been hurt enough that he's had his opportunities.

 

[Warpig]

i think he sticks around in NO unless someone overpays for him. i think devery is a FA too and they have a very similar skill set.

I thought they recently signed Devery to an extension similar to what PT got? I could be wrong. But if you are correct, he just might end up staying in NO and that would be good for him.*eta* He signed the 4 year deal in 2009. He's (henderson) a FA in 2013.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

isnt Colston a FA too?

Rumor was that he was wanting top dollar and wasnt going to take a cap friendly deal.

Bump Graham?

 

[saintfool]

isnt Colston a FA too?Rumor was that he was wanting top dollar and wasnt going to take a cap friendly deal. Bump Graham?

colston is a FA, correct. he certainly is looking to get a decent payday as it is likely his last chance at a good contract.there is a lot of posturing hwne it comes to these contract negotiations at this point. colston is a favorite of brees and has been very good in the system. he's likely not going to get a better shot at a second superbowl with another team. personally, if another team wants to overpay for him then payton will let gim go. they did this with fujita and reggie after all. however, i would be surprised if he left over a few dollars.

 

[todisco1]

isnt Colston a FA too?Rumor was that he was wanting top dollar and wasnt going to take a cap friendly deal. Bump Graham?

colston is a FA, correct. he certainly is looking to get a decent payday as it is likely his last chance at a good contract.there is a lot of posturing hwne it comes to these contract negotiations at this point. colston is a favorite of brees and has been very good in the system. he's likely not going to get a better shot at a second superbowl with another team. personally, if another team wants to overpay for him then payton will let gim go. they did this with fujita and reggie after all. however, i would be surprised if he left over a few dollars.

What if it's 2 million dollars difference? I agree he'll stick around if it's close, but if there's another suitor and it's a substantial difference, I think he has a good chance at leaving.

 

[saintfool]

What if it's 2 million dollars difference? I agree he'll stick around if it's close, but if there's another suitor and it's a substantial difference, I think he has a good chance at leaving.

the FO likely has a number in their head that they are willing to pay for his services. they will pay good money but it's not silly money. no one on the roster can do what he does though and remains a favorite of brees. colston has never been a a big ego guy and fame or "respect" isn't what seems to motivate him. there are teams that could use him - Cleveland, Jax, Minnesota and Buffalo all come to mind immediately - but i just don't see him leaving for a couple of bucks. if the saints make a credible offer then he stays.

 

[FavreCo]

isnt Colston a FA too?Rumor was that he was wanting top dollar and wasnt going to take a cap friendly deal. Bump Graham?

I would prefer Graham to have something in the way of a threat at the WR spot or they are going to double and triple him alld ay.

 

[az_prof]

What if it's 2 million dollars difference? I agree he'll stick around if it's close, but if there's another suitor and it's a substantial difference, I think he has a good chance at leaving.

the FO likely has a number in their head that they are willing to pay for his services. they will pay good money but it's not silly money. no one on the roster can do what he does though and remains a favorite of brees. colston has never been a a big ego guy and fame or "respect" isn't what seems to motivate him. there are teams that could use him - Cleveland, Jax, Minnesota and Buffalo all come to mind immediately - but i just don't see him leaving for a couple of bucks. if the saints make a credible offer then he stays.

It seems to me they will want to keep at least one of Colston and Meachem, but doubtful they will afford both. I wonder what kind of won-loss record they have when Colston is out vs in? Also wonder what kind of cap situation they are in. Meachem, Henderson, Moore and Graham is a pretty good group of receivers. If Meachem is quite a bit cheaper and if the cap is an issue, I could see them keeping him and letting Colston walk. IMO, as good as Colston is, no receiver is a "must keep" guy in that offense. But I would like to see the won-lost results to know for sure.

 

[Warhogs]

If it came down to Colston or Meachem I think they would keep Colston. I don't see a lot of difference between Meachem and Henderson.

 

[moderated]

Robert "one trick pony" Meachem hasn't been worth anything in one of the best offenses in the nfl. He's not gonna all of a sudden become good in a worse offense when all he does is run straight down the field for the most part.

If it hasn't happened in NO, it ain't happening anywhere.

 

[saintfool]

What if it's 2 million dollars difference? I agree he'll stick around if it's close, but if there's another suitor and it's a substantial difference, I think he has a good chance at leaving.

the FO likely has a number in their head that they are willing to pay for his services. they will pay good money but it's not silly money. no one on the roster can do what he does though and remains a favorite of brees. colston has never been a a big ego guy and fame or "respect" isn't what seems to motivate him. there are teams that could use him - Cleveland, Jax, Minnesota and Buffalo all come to mind immediately - but i just don't see him leaving for a couple of bucks. if the saints make a credible offer then he stays.

It seems to me they will want to keep at least one of Colston and Meachem, but doubtful they will afford both. I wonder what kind of won-loss record they have when Colston is out vs in? Also wonder what kind of cap situation they are in. Meachem, Henderson, Moore and Graham is a pretty good group of receivers. If Meachem is quite a bit cheaper and if the cap is an issue, I could see them keeping him and letting Colston walk. IMO, as good as Colston is, no receiver is a "must keep" guy in that offense. But I would like to see the won-lost results to know for sure.

Meachem will not command top dollar in the market. The numbers just don't support it. Comparisons between Colston and Meachem are unwieldy because they are very different types. Meachem is a downfield threat while Colston is a killer in the short-to-underneath. Colston gets clobbered running routes all the time it seems like. Meach draw the safeties away and creates space for guys like Moore, Colston, Graham and pretty much anyone not named Devery. Meach can run a slant - he did it last year with some regularity, IIRC - but hasn't been doing it much this year. I just don't think it will come down to an either/or between the two guys.

 

[The Man With No Name]

What if it's 2 million dollars difference? I agree he'll stick around if it's close, but if there's another suitor and it's a substantial difference, I think he has a good chance at leaving.

the FO likely has a number in their head that they are willing to pay for his services. they will pay good money but it's not silly money. no one on the roster can do what he does though and remains a favorite of brees. colston has never been a a big ego guy and fame or "respect" isn't what seems to motivate him. there are teams that could use him - Cleveland, Jax, Minnesota and Buffalo all come to mind immediately - but i just don't see him leaving for a couple of bucks. if the saints make a credible offer then he stays.

It seems to me they will want to keep at least one of Colston and Meachem, but doubtful they will afford both. I wonder what kind of won-loss record they have when Colston is out vs in? Also wonder what kind of cap situation they are in. Meachem, Henderson, Moore and Graham is a pretty good group of receivers. If Meachem is quite a bit cheaper and if the cap is an issue, I could see them keeping him and letting Colston walk. IMO, as good as Colston is, no receiver is a "must keep" guy in that offense. But I would like to see the won-lost results to know for sure.

With Colston out -2011: won 30-13, won 40-332010: lost 13-23 (week 17)2009: none2008: won 2, lost 32007: none2006: won 31-13, won 34-10

 

[cstu]

I had high hopes when I drafted him, but finally sold him. He's been stuck in the 40/600 range on the best passing offense in the NFL for 3 years. I see him leaving the Saints since he doesn't offer much more than Henderson.