Roethlisberger > Romo (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

 

[daveandken]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

 

[3C's]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Romo has Witten and TO. And MBIII.

 

[TheWick]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Romo has Witten and TO. And MBIII.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Romo has Witten and TO. And MBIII.

And Roethy doesn't have weapons? I think this is a splitting hairs thing. They're both really good.

 

[Ghost Rider]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Um what? BR has a higher TD% (9.1 vs. 7.9) and a lower INT% (2.9 vs. 3.8), so he has a decided advantage in those areas.

 

[Steeler]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

And this is why these threads are worthless. Some of Romo's stats "prove" he's the best and some of the Ben's stats "prove" he's the best, but nobody is going to be swayed by these arguments. Both are probably top 5 or whatever so who cares exactly where they rank?

 

[Steeler]

I think this is a splitting hairs thing. They're both really good.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I'm obviously a Steelers homer, but if I were their GM and was offered Romo straight up for Roethlisberger (forgetting about salaries for a minute) - I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't trade Ben for any QB in the league not named Brady or Manning (and not for Eli either.)

 

[3C's]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Romo has Witten and TO. And MBIII.

And Roethy doesn't have weapons? I think this is a splitting hairs thing. They're both really good.

It is splitting hairs. TO is upper tier. He's made quite a few QB's look very good. Ward/Holmes aren't nearly as good. They're very good, but not TO good.

 

[daveandken]

As an NFL quarterback, it is my contention that Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo. Everyone seems to be aboard the Romo bandwagon, and some still seem unconvinced as to how good BR really is, but I am not. He is the real deal. Romo is really good, but needs to cut down on the mistakes before I can consider him as good as Roethlisberger.

Hmmm, Romo has 1.75 TD/Int, Ben R has only 1.48.

Um what? BR has a higher TD% (9.1 vs. 7.9) and a lower INT% (2.9 vs. 3.8), so he has a decided advantage in those areas.

Wrong. Romo has a higher career TD % (6.68 to 5.8), and a lower career INT % (3.82 to 3.92).

 

[twitch]

These 2 QBs are so equal right now in all aspects of their games/teams its not even funny. Both can move, both have poise, both throw well, both have weapons, both teams play good D. Romo has a slightly quicker release, but Ben has a stronger arm. One guy's a little more proven than the other. So, because of his experience only, Id go with Ben. He's proven he can win big games. Romo hasnt yet had the opportunity.

 

[SR388]

Wow, just wow.

Back to the FFA.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Wow, just wow. Back to the FFA.

A shame. This type of analysis/insight will be missed.

 

[timschochet]

I remember reading this same argument two years ago about Big Ben and Palmer. Here's the deal:

For me, the top 4 QBs in the league are Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, and Favre. Romo is behind them. One reason? These 4 are the only 4 who have been through the playoff wars and who have guided their teams to SB wins- not just game managers, either. All 4 were INSTRUMENTAL in getting their teams to the SB. Farve and Manning have so many playoff appearances that I have lost count at this point. Brady is something like 12-2 in playoff games, while Big Ben is 5-1. Kurt Warner is the only other QB currently starting who has this distinction.

You can't underestimate this fact. Both Romo and Palmer have been highly productive, but they've got to perform when it counts to be in the elite class.

 

[W1cked]

First off, I have been in 5 leagues... Romo in one. The one league I have Romo, I have Ben.

I have seen my fair share of Steelers games this year.

Romo I think is more accurate. I have seen Ben miss some guys who were wide open. Romo is fun to watch, but like Favre back in the day, he takes chances, especially when pressured in the pocket. Ben pocket awareness and ability to escape is amazing. With that said, I think Dallas has a better OL.

Right now, I would take either one. I think Ben this year has been able to show more of his skills with the coaching change. So let's see how it plays out the rest of the year and maybe make a comparison then.

 

[twitch]

I remember reading this same argument two years ago about Big Ben and Palmer. Here's the deal:

For me, the top 4 QBs in the league are Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, and Favre. Romo is behind them. One reason? These 4 are the only 4 who have been through the playoff wars and who have guided their teams to SB wins- not just game managers, either. All 4 were INSTRUMENTAL in getting their teams to the SB. Farve and Manning have so many playoff appearances that I have lost count at this point. Brady is something like 12-2 in playoff games, while Big Ben is 5-1. Kurt Warner is the only other QB currently starting who has this distinction.

You can't underestimate this fact. Both Romo and Palmer have been highly productive, but they've got to perform when it counts to be in the elite class.

That list seems right. Based on accomplishments. But this season , Romo's just playing better football than Manning. He'd be in my top 5 today. Its interesting to grade a QBs career performance vs seasonal performance. But, right now, moving forward for the next 5 years, Id have a hard time keeping Romo and Ben out of the top 3. Palmer has game obviously, but his immobility puts him on a slightly lower tier.

 

[SR388]

Wow, just wow. Back to the FFA.

A shame. This type of analysis/insight will be missed.

Wow. I'm forced to change my username and now all you do is bash me. Thanks GB.This thread is silly. It's a Roethlisberger fanboy feeling insecure about Tony Romo having a good season. When the QB of the Dallas Cowboys is good, it's a media hyped story. Those are just the breaks. It's the equivalent of a my dad could beat your dad argument. Both are good.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Wow, just wow. Back to the FFA.

A shame. This type of analysis/insight will be missed.

Wow. I'm forced to change my username and now all you do is bash me. Thanks GB.This thread is silly. It's a Roethlisberger fanboy feeling insecure about Tony Romo having a good season. When the QB of the Dallas Cowboys is good, it's a media hyped story. Those are just the breaks. It's the equivalent of a my dad could beat your dad argument. Both are good.

I wasn't bashing you. But when you post "Wow. Just wow." as if it's ludicrous to even compare the two, there's no point in posting anything at all, so feel free to return to the FFA. I don't think your take on this thread is at all accurate - Ghost Rider is a Denver fan, and has no axe to grind here. Further, why would a Roethlisberger fan feel insecure about Romo having a good season? What does one have to do with the other?

 

[jerseydevil20]

I'm obviously a Steelers homer, but if I were their GM and was offered Romo straight up for Roethlisberger (forgetting about salaries for a minute) - I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't trade Ben for any QB in the league not named Brady or Manning (and not for Eli either.)

Agreed. I wouldn't take this trade either.

 

[daveandken]

I'm obviously a Steelers homer, but if I were their GM and was offered Romo straight up for Roethlisberger (forgetting about salaries for a minute) - I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't trade Ben for any QB in the league not named Brady or Manning (and not for Eli either.)

Agreed. I wouldn't take this trade either.

And likewise, the Cowboys wouldnt trade Romo for Ben R.

 

[twitch]

Always a fiery debate when it comes to comparing 2 great QBs. Ive been around the Brady/Manning debate block more times than I care to count. But I'll say this about Ben and Romo. While I think theyre equal, Im pretty sure neither in an honest moment would say he's better than the other. But Romo know doubt looks up to Ben as a QB role model because he happens to own a ring. And in the end, isnt it all about rings? Isnt that why they play? Fans of both teams have no reason whatsoever to feel the slightest bit insecure about either of these guys. In 5 or 6 years, when Brady and Manning are either old or retired, Id feel safe to say Romo and Roeth will be sitting somewhere near the head of the class. If not, at the very top.

 

[pollardsvision]

you could make a logical argument either way and it's probably impossible to say one is definitely better than the other (you could go round and round forever).

they are the both young star QBs on the teams with the largest nationwide fanbases (i assume)

both took the world by storm at first, went through a rough stretch and are now back on top of the world.

both are incredibly poised playmakers that any team would probably want leading their team.

both have plenty of weapons (i would consider TO/witten/cratyon roughly equal to hines/santonio/miller).

romo was a gunslinger from the 1st snap.

ben won a super bowl as a caretaker and is rapidly evolving into a gunslinger.

with a gun to my head, i'd take ben, but i couldn't give any great reasons for taking him over romo.

 

[meanjoegreen]

They are both good. I'd be happy with either of them.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

you could make a logical argument either way and it's probably impossible to say one is definitely better than the other (you could go round and round forever).they are the both young star QBs on the teams with the largest nationwide fanbases (i assume)both took the world by storm at first, went through a rough stretch and are now back on top of the world.both are incredibly poised playmakers that any team would probably want leading their team.both have plenty of weapons (i would consider TO/witten/cratyon roughly equal to hines/santonio/miller).romo was a gunslinger from the 1st snap.ben won a super bowl as a caretaker and is rapidly evolving into a gunslinger.with a gun to my head, i'd take ben, but i couldn't give any great reasons for taking him over romo.

If you need one, Roethlisberger is 2 years younger. People forget since he's been around a while now, but remember he was thrust into a starting role 1 game after coming out as an early-entry junior - he just turned 25 this year while Romo is 27.

 

[daveandken]

If you need one, Roethlisberger is 2 years younger. People forget since he's been around a while now, but remember he was thrust into a starting role 1 game after coming out as an early-entry junior - he just turned 25 this year while Romo is 27.

And on the other side of the coin, Romo hasn't taken nearly as many hits.

 

[jerseydevil20]

I'm obviously a Steelers homer, but if I were their GM and was offered Romo straight up for Roethlisberger (forgetting about salaries for a minute) - I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't trade Ben for any QB in the league not named Brady or Manning (and not for Eli either.)

Agreed. I wouldn't take this trade either.

And likewise, the Cowboys wouldnt trade Romo for Ben R.

 

[dickey moe]

I'm obviously a Steelers homer, but if I were their GM and was offered Romo straight up for Roethlisberger (forgetting about salaries for a minute) - I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't trade Ben for any QB in the league not named Brady or Manning (and not for Eli either.)

Agreed. I wouldn't take this trade either.

And likewise, the Cowboys wouldnt trade Romo for Ben R.

Good point. These two QBs are perfect for their respective systems.

 

[Hoh]

I cant speak about Romo so he may have this as well, but you can tell from interviews, sideline behavior, etc that the entire Steelers franchise would fall on their swords for Ben. He is their leader, and they will live and die with him. That speaks volumes, IMO.

 

[daveandken]

I cant speak about Romo so he may have this as well, but you can tell from interviews, sideline behavior, etc that the entire Steelers franchise would fall on their swords for Ben. He is their leader, and they will live and die with him. That speaks volumes, IMO.

Same for Romo. He's the emotional leader of the team.As much of a problem TO has been with previous QBs (including Bledsoe in Dallas), he's been great since Romo took over.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't think there's reall that much of a difference in the two of them. I'm not going to sit here and tell you how good I think Tony Romo is, we'll have to see.

He's proven a lot of people wrong and bounced back very nicely after botching the snap last year. I'm content in that and if it makes you sleep better to say Ben Roethlisberger is better than Tony Romo, that's fine with me. I'm excited to have him as the Cowboys QB for the next 6 years.

 

[Hoh]

I cant speak about Romo so he may have this as well, but you can tell from interviews, sideline behavior, etc that the entire Steelers franchise would fall on their swords for Ben. He is their leader, and they will live and die with him. That speaks volumes, IMO.

Same for Romo. He's the emotional leader of the team.As much of a problem TO has been with previous QBs (including Bledsoe in Dallas), he's been great since Romo took over.

Cool.THis is turning into Bradshaw vs Staubach 2.0

 

[clinton_c]

Romo has Witten and TO. And MBIII.

We are going to start this again?

Why is it that whenever a Dallas Cowboys becomes an elite player in this league he is always chopped down by the masses claiming "he is only good because of the weapons around him"

Aikman was only great because of Emmitt, Irvin, and his OL

Smith was only great because of his OL

now we have Romo is a product of his weapons.

Ben and Romo as of right now are very comparable QB's....to pick one would be a toss up.

 

[The Shizzle]

Romo has real teeth.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'LL TAKE BOTH! ... and be damn happy. #3a & #3b.

Seriously, if I cant have Brady or Manning for the next few years...

... then Ill take Ben or Romo for the next decade or more.

Ben is two years younger with more NFL experience, but he takes more hits.

 

[timschochet]

Given that Farve is soon to retire, there are fans of 28 different NFL teams who wold literally sell their souls to get one of these guys. As far As I am concerned, going into next year and thereafter there are only 4 "franchise" QBs in the NFL: Manning, Brady, Big Ben and Romo. And that's it.

 

[Jayrod]

I remember reading this same argument two years ago about Big Ben and Palmer. Here's the deal:For me, the top 4 QBs in the league are Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, and Favre. Romo is behind them. One reason? These 4 are the only 4 who have been through the playoff wars and who have guided their teams to SB wins- not just game managers, either. All 4 were INSTRUMENTAL in getting their teams to the SB. Farve and Manning have so many playoff appearances that I have lost count at this point. Brady is something like 12-2 in playoff games, while Big Ben is 5-1. Kurt Warner is the only other QB currently starting who has this distinction.You can't underestimate this fact. Both Romo and Palmer have been highly productive, but they've got to perform when it counts to be in the elite class.

Palmer could very likely have a ring if it wasn't for the knee injury in that 1st round game against Pittsburgh. I think at least they probably would have beaten the Steelers as they had their number that year and played very well at home.

 

[Copeman]

Given that Farve is soon to retire, there are fans of 28 different NFL teams who wold literally sell their souls to get one of these guys. As far As I am concerned, going into next year and thereafter there are only 4 "franchise" QBs in the NFL: Manning, Brady, Big Ben and Romo. And that's it.

I find it hard to not have Palmer on this list as well. He may be having a sub-par year, but look at Ben last year.And I'm a Steeler homer.

 

[Jayrod]

Given that Farve is soon to retire, there are fans of 28 different NFL teams who wold literally sell their souls to get one of these guys. As far As I am concerned, going into next year and thereafter there are only 4 "franchise" QBs in the NFL: Manning, Brady, Big Ben and Romo. And that's it.

I don't think Palmer has slid that far. He is still a franchise QB.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I remember reading this same argument two years ago about Big Ben and Palmer. Here's the deal:For me, the top 4 QBs in the league are Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, and Favre. Romo is behind them. One reason? These 4 are the only 4 who have been through the playoff wars and who have guided their teams to SB wins- not just game managers, either. All 4 were INSTRUMENTAL in getting their teams to the SB. Farve and Manning have so many playoff appearances that I have lost count at this point. Brady is something like 12-2 in playoff games, while Big Ben is 5-1. Kurt Warner is the only other QB currently starting who has this distinction.You can't underestimate this fact. Both Romo and Palmer have been highly productive, but they've got to perform when it counts to be in the elite class.

Palmer could very likely have a ring if it wasn't for the knee injury in that 1st round game against Pittsburgh. I think at least they probably would have beaten the Steelers as they had their number that year and played very well at home.

I agree with your statements on Palmer, but the Steelers had already beaten Cincinnati in Cincinnati that season. You just can't say they probably would have won that game - they still allowed 34 points in that game and no one scored that many on Pittsburgh all year, including the playoffs (20 games.)

 

[doughboydeluxe]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

Don't forget Ben was plugging Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Meadow Soprano) for a while.

 

[timschochet]

I remember reading this same argument two years ago about Big Ben and Palmer. Here's the deal:For me, the top 4 QBs in the league are Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, and Favre. Romo is behind them. One reason? These 4 are the only 4 who have been through the playoff wars and who have guided their teams to SB wins- not just game managers, either. All 4 were INSTRUMENTAL in getting their teams to the SB. Farve and Manning have so many playoff appearances that I have lost count at this point. Brady is something like 12-2 in playoff games, while Big Ben is 5-1. Kurt Warner is the only other QB currently starting who has this distinction.You can't underestimate this fact. Both Romo and Palmer have been highly productive, but they've got to perform when it counts to be in the elite class.

Palmer could very likely have a ring if it wasn't for the knee injury in that 1st round game against Pittsburgh. I think at least they probably would have beaten the Steelers as they had their number that year and played very well at home.

This for me is the biggest urban legend ever- that Cincy wins that game AND the SB if Palmer had been healthy. First of all, the Steelers were a much better team playing great defense at that point in the season, and they had already beaten Cincy at home. second, even if the Bengals had won that game (which I highly doubt) they then travel to Denver, and then either Indy or New England. No way they win both those games. With that defense? not a chance.

 

[meanjoegreen]

This for me is the biggest urban legend ever- that Cincy wins that game AND the SB if Palmer had been healthy. First of all, the Steelers were a much better team playing great defense at that point in the season, and they had already beaten Cincy at home. second, even if the Bengals had won that game (which I highly doubt) they then travel to Denver, and then either Indy or New England. No way they win both those games. With that defense? not a chance.

There is always a chance.

 

[timschochet]

This for me is the biggest urban legend ever- that Cincy wins that game AND the SB if Palmer had been healthy. First of all, the Steelers were a much better team playing great defense at that point in the season, and they had already beaten Cincy at home. second, even if the Bengals had won that game (which I highly doubt) they then travel to Denver, and then either Indy or New England. No way they win both those games. With that defense? not a chance.

There is always a chance.

Sure, a chance. But Bengal fans (and players, like Ocho Cinco for that matter) have talked about this for the last two years that it's self evident that the Bengals would be world champions if not for the injury-

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

Don't forget Ben was plugging Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Meadow Soprano) for a while.

I think that was just a fictitious ESPN article, no?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

Don't forget Ben was plugging Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Meadow Soprano) for a while.

I think that was just a fictitious ESPN article, no?

I could have sworn I read it in a magazine also.

 

[Hoh]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

Don't forget Ben was plugging Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Meadow Soprano) for a while.

I think that was just a fictitious ESPN article, no?

Either way, is it possible to be extremely proud of the guy, yet so jealous I want bad things to happen to him....all at the same time? I'm conflicted.

 

[dickey moe]

Romo has real teeth.

And a huge mole, just a step down from that of Drew Brees.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

I think all of y'all are missing the true points of comparison: hotties and inebriated photographs.

HOTTIES

While Ben dated Natalie Gublis, Romo was with Carrie Underwood and Sophia Bush. Romo gets negative points for being seen in the same place as Britney Spears (even though there was no link other than Romo being friends with her friend), but he still comes out on top.

ADVANTAGE: ROMO

INEBRIATED PHOTOS

While these pics with Underwood are amusing, nothing tops Ben's pics. Even Kyle Orton would be proud.

ADAVANTAGE: BEN

In the end, as is always the case with hotties and drunk photos, we all win.

Don't forget Ben was plugging Jamie-Lynn Sigler (Meadow Soprano) for a while.

I think that was just a fictitious ESPN article, no?

I could have sworn I read it in a magazine also.

Ben denies it in this article in the Post-Gazette, but who knows if that's the truth or not.