Ronnie Brown Expectations (1 Viewer)

[chihawk]

Ronnie Brown has been pretty consistent his first two years (900-1000 yards, 4-5 TDs, mid 200s receiving yards).

All of the FBGs projections have him significantly improving on his stats from the first two years....WHY? I just don't see a good reason why he would significantly improve this year. They did sign Trent Green for QB, but I don't think that is a great reason for bumping Ronnie Brown's numbers and the projections for Trent Green isn't much different from what Culpepper and Harrington did last year. The O-line is still way below average, and they lost two receiving options in Welker and McMichael, so defenses should be able to focus even more on the run.

McGahee on the other hand is further down on their RB ranking, but has previously produced better than Ronnie Brown (last year Brown actually had slightly better numbers, so Browns best year is close to the same as McGahee's worst). Now McGahee moves to Baltimore which may no longer be one of the better running teams in the league, but in my opinion is a better situation than Miami's.

These two running backs have a similar ADP, but FBG values Ronnie Brown over McGahee by a lot....what am I missing here?

 

[laughinboy_2000]

Ronnie Brown has been pretty consistent his first two years (900-1000 yards, 4-5 TDs, mid 200s receiving yards).

All of the FBGs projections have him significantly improving on his stats from the first two years....WHY? I just don't see a good reason why he would significantly improve this year. They did sign Trent Green for QB, but I don't think that is a great reason for bumping Ronnie Brown's numbers and the projections for Trent Green isn't much different from what Culpepper and Harrington did last year. The O-line is still way below average, and they lost two receiving options in Welker and McMichael, so defenses should be able to focus even more on the run.

McGahee on the other hand is further down on their RB ranking, but has previously produced better than Ronnie Brown (last year Brown actually had slightly better numbers, so Browns best year is close to the same as McGahee's worst). Now McGahee moves to Baltimore which may no longer be one of the better running teams in the league, but in my opinion is a better situation than Miami's.

These two running backs have a similar ADP, but FBG values Ronnie Brown over McGahee by a lot....what am I missing here?

One of the reasons he may not live up to expactions is this...http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/footbal...story?track=rss

If the Dolphins follow suite with this, Brown will not meet his "expectations". He is not durable the way it is and now they want to add this to Brown's skills? This can't be good for Ronnie's overall fantasy value.

 

[moleculo]

I'd bet if you did a search, you might find several threads on RBrowns expectations.

just a thought. good luck

 

[Cowtippers]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

 

[Yitbos69]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......from Rotoworld....Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

 

[identikit]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

 

[Looking4Answers]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

 

[C Diesel]

Not so fast...

Per Fanball...

08/19/07 09:49 AM

THE NEWS

Coach Cam Cameron backtracked Saturday after seemingly implying after Thursday's game that Ronnie Brown would be one of the kickoff returners when the season begins. Cameron said his comment was in reference to that preseason game only, according to the Miami Herald. On the other hand, he didn't say when rookie Ted Ginn, who presumably was drafted to return kicks, would replace Brown in that role. "We haven't made that decision yet," Cameron said.

Our View

It really would make no sense to risk injuring their talented starting running back by using Brown on returns when they have a player like Ginn available

 

[identikit]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

 

[nygiants56]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

 

[nygiants56]

Ronnie Brown has avg'd 4.3 per carry in his brief NFL career, with Nick Saban as head coach and Mike Mularkey as OC ( last season). can't get much worse than that.

Mularkey's play calling was predictable and generic.

Cam will bring a new philosophy and a proven track record.

Brown will catch nearly 70 balls this year..thats my 2 cents, I know its a lofty prediction, but I can see his reception totals skyrocketing in this offense, where the RB is a major contributor in the receiving department.

he should also rush for about 1400 yards..( 335 carries at 4.3 per)

 

[fsufan]

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

i heard the guys this morning on ESPN radio talking about this. if true, this tells me they do not think he is their RB of the future

 

[kensat30]

Ronnie Brown has avg'd 4.3 per carry in his brief NFL career, with Nick Saban as head coach and Mike Mularkey as OC ( last season). can't get much worse than that.Mularkey's play calling was predictable and generic.Cam will bring a new philosophy and a proven track record.Brown will catch nearly 70 balls this year..thats my 2 cents, I know its a lofty prediction, but I can see his reception totals skyrocketing in this offense, where the RB is a major contributor in the receiving department.he should also rush for about 1400 yards..( 335 carries at 4.3 per)

70 receptions? Did Lorenzo Booker die in a car crash last night? Sure Ronnie Brown can catch, but come on.

 

[Todem]

Ronnie Brown has avg'd 4.3 per carry in his brief NFL career, with Nick Saban as head coach and Mike Mularkey as OC ( last season). can't get much worse than that.

Mularkey's play calling was predictable and generic.

Cam will bring a new philosophy and a proven track record.

Brown will catch nearly 70 balls this year..thats my 2 cents, I know its a lofty prediction, but I can see his reception totals skyrocketing in this offense, where the RB is a major contributor in the receiving department.

he should also rush for about 1400 yards..( 335 carries at 4.3 per)

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.

Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.

The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here.

1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.

70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.

It's gonna be ugly folks.

And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

 

[FairWarning]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

And how was Cam's play-calling in the playoffs?

 

[AB in DC]

Ronnie Brown has been pretty consistent his first two years (900-1000 yards, 4-5 TDs, mid 200s receiving yards).All of the FBGs projections have him significantly improving on his stats from the first two years....WHY?

Maybe because he could actually play all 16 games, unlike last year?Maybe because he won't split carries with Ricky Williams, unlike his first year?Sorry, it's really not that complicated.

 

[Banger]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

So now that Cam is gone how much do you think his loss will impact the Chargers offense?

 

[mad sweeney]

Ronnie Brown has been pretty consistent his first two years (900-1000 yards, 4-5 TDs, mid 200s receiving yards).

All of the FBGs projections have him significantly improving on his stats from the first two years....WHY? I just don't see a good reason why he would significantly improve this year. They did sign Trent Green for QB, but I don't think that is a great reason for bumping Ronnie Brown's numbers and the projections for Trent Green isn't much different from what Culpepper and Harrington did last year. The O-line is still way below average, and they lost two receiving options in Welker and McMichael, so defenses should be able to focus even more on the run.

McGahee on the other hand is further down on their RB ranking, but has previously produced better than Ronnie Brown (last year Brown actually had slightly better numbers, so Browns best year is close to the same as McGahee's worst). Now McGahee moves to Baltimore which may no longer be one of the better running teams in the league, but in my opinion is a better situation than Miami's.

These two running backs have a similar ADP, but FBG values Ronnie Brown over McGahee by a lot....what am I missing here?

Yahoo is reporting that the Jets will most likely wait until Sep 1 to cut Pete Kendall and the Dolphins are basically waiting to fly him down and sign him. In his 12th year he's still a very good guard and would upgrade the line immediately. It's specualtion at this point but if it happens that's a very good thing for Brown.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

So now that Cam is gone how much do you think his loss will impact the Chargers offense?

They replaced him with an equally gifted offensive mind. So are you really trying to draw a conclusion that if the offense is as effective as it was in '06 then that means Cam had nothing to do with their success?

 

[Tom Baker]

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here. 1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.It's gonna be ugly folks.And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Guy averaged 4.2 yards per carry on that crap team behind that crap line. Larry Johnson averaged 4.3 in KC. Just saying . . .

 

[Bears_Man2]

Ronnie would probably win one of the dancing shows on TV, but Ronnie's going to have this starting gig for a couple more years.

My expectations for him are pretty low. O-line is bad, QB situation isn't much better. I would take a # of WR's before Ronnie this year. (Or probably just trade down if he was 'the best available' at my draft spot).

Outside of Beck, I think Miami does have some nice weapons on offense for the future (Ginn/Booker). It will be up to Cam to use them correctly.

 

[Todem]

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here. 1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.It's gonna be ugly folks.And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Guy averaged 4.2 yards per carry on that crap team behind that crap line. Larry Johnson averaged 4.3 in KC. Just saying . . .

You can say what he averaged all you want. He is not an top talent and will never be a workhorse back. #2 overall and he has shown that he is a good part time player. Nothing special.LJ is a beast Ronnie is not. LJ can score from anywhere on the field...Ronnie can't. LJ will truck over people...Ronnie rather dance.Stats shmats. It is the bottom line that matters and to compare Ronnie Brown to LJ is really funny.

 

[Tom Baker]

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here. 1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.It's gonna be ugly folks.And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Guy averaged 4.2 yards per carry on that crap team behind that crap line. Larry Johnson averaged 4.3 in KC. Just saying . . .

You can say what he averaged all you want. He is not an top talent and will never be a workhorse back. #2 overall and he has shown that he is a good part time player. Nothing special.LJ is a beast Ronnie is not. LJ can score from anywhere on the field...Ronnie can't. LJ will truck over people...Ronnie rather dance.Stats shmats. It is the bottom line that matters and to compare Ronnie Brown to LJ is really funny.

29 carries for 157 at Chicago is pretty beastly. I've got no reason to believe that LJ would have been any more successful in Miami than Brown has been, and I suspect that Brown would have been VERY successful in KC had he walked into that situation. As for LJ scoring from anywhere on the field, his longest TD run last year was 12 yards, and his longest run of the season was 47 yards, exactly the same as Brown.You really should check your numbers, because stats are the bottom line . . .

 

[Sleeper 43]

Bwahhhh.

Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.

Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.

The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here.

1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.

70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.

It's gonna be ugly folks.

And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Guy averaged 4.2 yards per carry on that crap team behind that crap line. Larry Johnson averaged 4.3 in KC. Just saying . . .

You can say what he averaged all you want. He is not an top talent and will never be a workhorse back. #2 overall and he has shown that he is a good part time player. Nothing special.LJ is a beast Ronnie is not. LJ can score from anywhere on the field...Ronnie can't. LJ will truck over people...Ronnie rather dance.

Stats shmats. It is the bottom line that matters and to compare Ronnie Brown to LJ is really funny.

I think what seems and what is are 2 different things. I went to multiple HL's and saw him not only barrell over DBs but LBs while carrying people for extra yards.

See for Yourself

 

[az_prof]

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here. 1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.It's gonna be ugly folks.And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Guy averaged 4.2 yards per carry on that crap team behind that crap line. Larry Johnson averaged 4.3 in KC. Just saying . . .

You can say what he averaged all you want. He is not an top talent and will never be a workhorse back. #2 overall and he has shown that he is a good part time player. Nothing special.LJ is a beast Ronnie is not. LJ can score from anywhere on the field...Ronnie can't. LJ will truck over people...Ronnie rather dance.Stats shmats. It is the bottom line that matters and to compare Ronnie Brown to LJ is really funny.

29 carries for 157 at Chicago is pretty beastly. I've got no reason to believe that LJ would have been any more successful in Miami than Brown has been, and I suspect that Brown would have been VERY successful in KC had he walked into that situation. As for LJ scoring from anywhere on the field, his longest TD run last year was 12 yards, and his longest run of the season was 47 yards, exactly the same as Brown.You really should check your numbers, because stats are the bottom line . . .

 

[mdog1967]

Ronnie Brown has avg'd 4.3 per carry in his brief NFL career, with Nick Saban as head coach and Mike Mularkey as OC ( last season). can't get much worse than that.

Mularkey's play calling was predictable and generic.

Cam will bring a new philosophy and a proven track record.

Brown will catch nearly 70 balls this year..thats my 2 cents, I know its a lofty prediction, but I can see his reception totals skyrocketing in this offense, where the RB is a major contributor in the receiving department.

he should also rush for about 1400 yards..( 335 carries at 4.3 per)

Bwahhhh.Miami homer here. And let me tell you what most of us already know.

Ronnie Brown is not a top talent at RB. Never will be. And will barely be worth a 2nd rounder this season. He does not use his size to explode DB's when he get's into the open field. He rather dance all night then take on tacklers like a guy with his size should.

The guy is running down hill and rather juke and jive then bowl over a smaller DB.....it is driving us crazy down here.

1400 yards? He will need 420 carries to sniff that. This OL stinks...I mean bad. All new starters and guy's being shuffled every day in practice.

70 receptions? naaah. Try 45-50. Which is good. But no not 70. He get's tired to easy...Booker will steal a lot of those receptions your talking about. Plus Chatman is also being talked about at taking 7-9 carries a game already.

It's gonna be ugly folks.

And Ronnie Brown has never proven at the college level nor the pro level that he can take 25-33 carries a week.

Not a Miami Fan and I can tell you your dead wrong, Ronnie Brown is a beast. If he can keep the Pudge off the guy will do some serious damage. I am however a 49er fan love Gore and if he where out of it, I would have no problem having Brown run for the 9ers. When your F*^& offense is as bad as Miami's last year and your O-Line looks like swiss cheez, you dont expect your RB to avg more than 3yrds a carry. If your Saben had not tried to throw TD's at the 5yd line and given the ball to Ronnie he would have scored 6-7 more TD's. We would be talking about taking him at pick number 7 or 8 in a Re-Draft this year, and speculating at 3 or 4 with Cameron coming aboard. Fact is you are in serious denial.

 

[Banger]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

So now that Cam is gone how much do you think his loss will impact the Chargers offense?

They replaced him with an equally gifted offensive mind. So are you really trying to draw a conclusion that if the offense is as effective as it was in '06 then that means Cam had nothing to do with their success?

The jury is out on Cam IMO. Anyone can look like a genius with a good QB, top RB, top TE and top O-line. Miami has one of the worst lines, below avg qb, who's their TE? (Martin?), avg wr's and a decent RB so it will be an uphill battle to say the least. Talent is an enormous part of the equation and Miami doesn't have much at all.

 

[bostonfred]

Ronnie Brown was actually pretty solid in PPR leagues through his first 9 games:

21.2

18.2

12

19.1

10.6

18.7

17.2

21

15.6

He injured his groin in the KC game, then played through it for two miserable weeks. The Minnesota game was horrible; then he broke his hand against Detroit:

.5

8.3

His last two weeks, after returning from both the groin injury and the broken hand:

15.5

13.5

He averaged about 16.5 PPG while healthy. To put that in comparison, that would make him RB10 on a PPG basis, right ahead of Rudi Johnson and Chester Taylor but behind Jones-Drew and Betts if you assume he didn't start on fantasy teams until Portis went down.

His YPC was over 4.0 last year. The only games where he was under 4.0 were against Pittsburgh, New England, Tennessee, and the games after the groin pull. He was playing behind a bad offensive line in a predictable offense and still did decently. He might not have been flashy, but he averaged over 5 YPC in games against the Bears, Jetsx2 and Colts. That's not bad.

He was clearly the #1 option on the goal line, and he still is. Miami does not have a true goal line receiver. McMichael is gone, and Chambers is probably the closest thing they have. After that, it's Tedd Ginn? Marty Booker? Derek Hagan? David Thomas? Jesse Chatman? It looks like Brown wil be the man at the stripe.

His receiving totals were helpful last year in PPR leagues. Will they keep up under Cam? It sure seems like they will. San Diego certainly threw to their running back, and Brown is at worst a competent receiver. I'd expect them to go slightly up.

Add that together, and you've got a guy who should be right around the same area this year - bottom of the first, top of the second tier of running backs. His low upside is the only concern to me, but in Cam's offense, maybe there is some upside after all. I like him in the second round, but wouldn't reach to get him.

 

[identikit]

Rotoworld is also quoting the Sun Sentinel article.......

from Rotoworld....

Ronnie Brown will return kicks for the Dolphins this year.

Jesse Chatman will back him up as Ted Ginn Jr. will be restricted to returning punts in his rookie season.

Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If this holds true then I think it will have a negative impact on his overall season -IMO. I don't have any statistical data on RB's that also return kick-offs - but it seems that Ronnie Brown could get even more "knicked up" or "worn down" this season if he handles the return duties.

Having Ronnie Brown return kicks is a bonehead move by the coaching staff!

That's the sort of decisions Cam makes when he's in charge.

Id

You must be a Indiana fan

I am actually...I'm also a fan of good coaching. Cam isn't in that category.

Id

guess you've never watched an NFL game when you make comments like that.. LT had an ALL-TIME best season last year, one for the ages, as they say..I guess Cam had nothing to do with it? SD ranked #1 in offense last season, again, Cam had nothing to do with it? SD's offense had been very good under Cam's control.

as a head coach, things might be different, but as an OC, the guy knows his stuff..

So now that Cam is gone how much do you think his loss will impact the Chargers offense?

They replaced him with an equally gifted offensive mind. So are you really trying to draw a conclusion that if the offense is as effective as it was in '06 then that means Cam had nothing to do with their success?

The jury is out on Cam IMO. Anyone can look like a genius with a good QB, top RB, top TE and top O-line. Miami has one of the worst lines, below avg qb, who's their TE? (Martin?), avg wr's and a decent RB so it will be an uphill battle to say the least. Talent is an enormous part of the equation and Miami doesn't have much at all.

Very I'm actually a Dolphin fan, as well as an Indiana U fan.

As a head coach (which he was, though at the college level), he has yet to come even close to being decent.

SD's offense was destined to be awesome because of the talent it had, not because of decisions Cam made.

That being said, I'd love Cam to succeed @ Miami; though I've seen nothing from him to give me confidence, and many many red flags that signal an oncoming

Id

 

[moleculo]

Ronnie Brown was actually pretty solid in PPR leagues through his first 9 games:21.218.21219.110.618.717.22115.6He injured his groin in the KC game, then played through it for two miserable weeks. The Minnesota game was horrible; then he broke his hand against Detroit:.58.3His last two weeks, after returning from both the groin injury and the broken hand:15.513.5He averaged about 16.5 PPG while healthy. To put that in comparison, that would make him RB10 on a PPG basis, right ahead of Rudi Johnson and Chester Taylor but behind Jones-Drew and Betts if you assume he didn't start on fantasy teams until Portis went down. His YPC was over 4.0 last year. The only games where he was under 4.0 were against Pittsburgh, New England, Tennessee, and the games after the groin pull. He was playing behind a bad offensive line in a predictable offense and still did decently. He might not have been flashy, but he averaged over 5 YPC in games against the Bears, Jetsx2 and Colts. That's not bad. He was clearly the #1 option on the goal line, and he still is. Miami does not have a true goal line receiver. McMichael is gone, and Chambers is probably the closest thing they have. After that, it's Tedd Ginn? Marty Booker? Derek Hagan? David Thomas? Jesse Chatman? It looks like Brown wil be the man at the stripe. His receiving totals were helpful last year in PPR leagues. Will they keep up under Cam? It sure seems like they will. San Diego certainly threw to their running back, and Brown is at worst a competent receiver. I'd expect them to go slightly up. Add that together, and you've got a guy who should be right around the same area this year - bottom of the first, top of the second tier of running backs. His low upside is the only concern to me, but in Cam's offense, maybe there is some upside after all. I like him in the second round, but wouldn't reach to get him.

:( Listen to Bfred. He knows stuff.