Ronnie Brown vs Ricky Williams (1 Viewer)

[Islander]

What kind of workload should we expect for R Brown vs R Williams going forward?

I suspect some think R Brown will now be the workhorse based on the NE game. But my feeling is that R Williams will continue to be used significantly and that this remains RBBC until one gets injured. I would say 65% Brown 35% Williams based on total number of carries. However for goal line carries it will be tilted more heavily in Brown's favor.

The RB15 ranking in the top250 forward for R Brown seems about right to me.

Thoughts?

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

So when do you start Brown? You can't play "matchups". Nobody would have considered NE a good matchup. You could use him "as a last resort" but Brown is too good for that. The only other way I can see him is as an "every week except for Baltimore" type starter, which is about the same as an every week starter.

 

[benm3218]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

So when do you start Brown? You can't play "matchups". Nobody would have considered NE a good matchup. You could use him "as a last resort" but Brown is too good for that. The only other way I can see him is as an "every week except for Baltimore" type starter, which is about the same as an every week starter.

He will be every week for me.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

So when do you start Brown? You can't play "matchups". Nobody would have considered NE a good matchup. You could use him "as a last resort" but Brown is too good for that. The only other way I can see him is as an "every week except for Baltimore" type starter, which is about the same as an every week starter.

You start Brown when bye weeks/injuries dictate if you have two top 15 RBs. if you don't then Brown is probably an everyweek starter on your team, he's just not an everyweek starter on every team.

 

[menobrown]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

 

[az_prof]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Didn't get a chance to actually watch much of that week 3 game. However, the box score would indicate it is still pretty much a RBBC, with RB getting the goal line work.

Week 3

Ronnie 18 touches, 121 yards 4 TDs

Ricky 18 touches, 119 yards 0 TDs

Week 2

Ronnie 13 touches, 44 yards 1 TD

Ricky 12 touches, 29 yards 0 TDs

Week 1

Ronnie 9 touches, 51 yards 0 TD

Ricky 14 touches, 39 yards 0 TD

Ricky now has 3 fumbles to Ronnie's 0.

I'll let people who actually saw the game read between the lines.

 

[menobrown]

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

I covered this yesterday and don't care to spend more time debating something we will see on Sunday but for the last time let me say that I don't believe this is a case of Ronnie getting healthier and getting more carries. I've seen no place were the Dolphins coaching staff said this nor have I seen anything on the field indicating it's not going to be split playing time. Ronnie got 12 carries in the last preseason game. If you can give it to a guy 12 times in the 4th preseason game you don't go into the season saving him.

 

[gregjcross]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

We need 3 more weeks before declaring anything about consistency in this sitation, doing so now is an act of futility. You might say Brown wont be consistent, for all we know he could have 12 combined TDs by week 8 depending on their schedule. History (Weeks 1,2,3) means almost nothing at this point seeing the huge spread in production from game to game.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

I could be guilty of vastly overestimating the impact of a 5 TD performance - but I think RB's performance last week cemented his status as the 1A in this RBBC at worst. I'd rather have Brown than all other RB's sitting outside of the top 25 from here on out.

 

[hooptd]

Didn't get a chance to actually watch much of that week 3 game. However, the box score would indicate it is still pretty much a RBBC, with RB getting the goal line work.Week 3Ronnie 18 touches, 121 yards 4 TDsRicky 18 touches, 119 yards 0 TDsWeek 2Ronnie 13 touches, 44 yards 1 TDRicky 12 touches, 29 yards 0 TDsWeek 1Ronnie 9 touches, 51 yards 0 TDRicky 14 touches, 39 yards 0 TDRicky now has 3 fumbles to Ronnie's 0. I'll let people who actually saw the game read between the lines.

Ricky got most of his touches late in the game, after Ronnie had done the damage.

 

[menobrown]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

We need 3 more weeks before declaring anything about consistency in this sitation, doing so now is an act of futility. You might say Brown wont be consistent, for all we know he could have 12 combined TDs by week 8 depending on their schedule. History (Weeks 1,2,3) means almost nothing at this point seeing the huge spread in production from game to game.

I don't think we need any more time at all. They said before the season it would be both backs and that's what it's been. It's why Ricky said both backs would run for 1,000.

 

[bucsbaby]

As long as Ronnie gets enough touches to keep him a top 15 RB I don't care what Ricky does

 

[gregjcross]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

We need 3 more weeks before declaring anything about consistency in this sitation, doing so now is an act of futility. You might say Brown wont be consistent, for all we know he could have 12 combined TDs by week 8 depending on their schedule. History (Weeks 1,2,3) means almost nothing at this point seeing the huge spread in production from game to game.

I don't think we need any more time at all. They said before the season it would be both backs and that's what it's been. It's why Ricky said both backs would run for 1,000.

If there is a fantasy league that rewards for carries, then, by all means, you have your answer and no further discussion will be needed ever again.

 

[sholditch]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

I called week 3 as the week when Ronnie takes over and doesn't look back. Most people who can see past their nose saw this coming about when it did due to RB's preseason workload.

 

[TheFanatic]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

I called week 3 as the week when Ronnie takes over and doesn't look back. Most people who can see past their nose saw this coming about when it did due to RB's preseason workload.

Link?

 

[big0mar]

50-50

Just like Barber and Jones when Sparano and Parcells were running the show in Dallas

 

[FFdork]

I think most given where he was available, people that drafted Ronnie Brown would be happy with top 20 production here on out. Anything more would be a bonus.

Week 3 was encouraging (I was more encouraged by how he looked running than the fluky TDs). I do think that people that are expecting Brown to suddenly get 70% of the carries or more will be disappointed. There's really no reason to run him into the ground when he's still recovering from a major injury and you've got another competent back.

However, I think he will get a little more of the carries, be more involved in the passing game and get the ball at the key points in games. All of this gives him a lot of upside in any given week. RB15-18 feels about right to me.

 

[abishagenaden]

I just can't bring myself to drop Ricky, even though he hasn't started a single game for me yet...I just can't shake the feeling that a season-ending injury for his counterpart is going to happen anytime now...

Then again it's stupid gut feelings like that that doom FF teams.

 

[sholditch]

I think Ricky Williams' contributions as a fantasy football player are about done. Maybe he's a flex play here and there against the softest of matchups.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean he won't steal enough work from Brown to keep him out of the "everyweek start" category. Parcells seems to be stubborn about his RBBCs.

I'd agree as well but the you could have inserted Ronnie Browns name for Ricky and I'd have agreed. It's a RBBC. Neither are going to be consistent guys you want to start each week until one of them gets hurt.

This may have been believable in the preseason and after week 1, but not anymore. We all knew the further into the season we got and the healthier Ronnie got that the more carries he would get. It has happened quicker though than any of us imagined.

I called week 3 as the week when Ronnie takes over and doesn't look back. Most people who can see past their nose saw this coming about when it did due to RB's preseason workload.

Link?

you spend the time digging through 10 bajillion threads to find it. I couldn't care less if anyone believes me.

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

If you have a talent on par with a young LT sitting on your bench, and he's healthy, do you sit him for thirtysomething Ricky Williams? Does that sound like a good way to win? Maybe it's just me, but I'll bet the Dolphins haven't given up on their playoff hopes just because this board has written them off.

Ricky will take what he gets, and probably enjoy every second of it, no matter what happens.