Roy Williams top WR no more? (1 Viewer)

[Kiddnets]

What a choke job by this guy down the stretch - no TDs - heck not even yards the last few games when it counted against some mediocre defenses. Culminates in a big zero after he was ranked the #1 WR on the cheatsheets earlier his week.

I know Kitna is a bum - but a zero? I'll be avoiding this guy (along with all Lions) in 2007!

Anyone still see him as a top WR for 2007?

 

[RBM]

This guy really killed me the last two weeks.

As for next year, that will depend on the qb and if Martz is around I guess. The Lions are a nightmare to watch though

 

[SofaKings]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

 

[-OZ-]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

 

[Tom Servo]

That idiot just about single-handedly knocked me out of the playoffs!

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

He wants to make sure the Raiders or Bucs don't sneak ahead of the Lions.

Speaking of which, didn't those two teams play in the Super Bowl three years ago or so?

 

[jeter23]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

 

[malice]

You're acting like this is the first year a Lions WR has tanked the second half of the season.

Go ahead and name any Lions WR who helped you win a FF playoff. Herman Moore?

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

 

[MSULions]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

if they don't draft Joe Thomas then they might as well fold the franchise.

 

[Sopranos]

I have never considered him a top 10 WR anyway. I dont see him as a #1 WR. He has his flashes but he plays for the worst franchise on earth

 

[-OZ-]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

if they don't draft Joe Thomas then they might as well fold the franchise.

I wonder what Jacksonville would want for Leftwich. My ideal plan would net Joe Thomas as the 1.01 and trade a 3rd+ for Leftwich.

 

[RBM]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

if they don't draft Joe Thomas then they might as well fold the franchise.

I wonder what Jacksonville would want for Leftwich. My ideal plan would net Joe Thomas as the 1.01 and trade a 3rd+ for Leftwich.

That would be ideal

 

[NoCheese]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

if they don't draft Joe Thomas then they might as well fold the franchise.

I wonder what Jacksonville would want for Leftwich. My ideal plan would net Joe Thomas as the 1.01 and trade a 3rd+ for Leftwich.

And why would they want to trade him? Have you seen David Garrard play?

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Actually, this is all by design. He wants a legitimate quarterback next season, and is preparing for the Brady Quinn era.

Good Christ, I hope that's not the case. Any QB is going to look like #### behing that o-line when they're running an offense that uses routes that take as long to develop, like the one Martz uses. And Brady Quinn looks a lot like Joey Harrington Jr. to me.

if they don't draft Joe Thomas then they might as well fold the franchise.

I wonder what Jacksonville would want for Leftwich. My ideal plan would net Joe Thomas as the 1.01 and trade a 3rd+ for Leftwich.

That would be ideal

NO WAY IN HELL they give up THAT much for that wooden Indian with a titanium rod in his oft injured leg - and who's a free agent pretty soon. Besides Atlanta's Matt Schaub has more upside.

 

[my man otis]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

 

[billyjoe]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

Is he the lock of the draft like Gallery was?Forget taking an OL 1st overall and giving him 40 mil. That's just stupid. You could have gotten Hutch for that, without any of the risk.

 

[midwest_kc]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

Is he the lock of the draft like Gallery was?Forget taking an OL 1st overall and giving him 40 mil. That's just stupid. You could have gotten Hutch for that, without any of the risk.

Do you know who Brady Quinn is?

 

[my man otis]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

Is he the lock of the draft like Gallery was?Forget taking an OL 1st overall and giving him 40 mil. That's just stupid. You could have gotten Hutch for that, without any of the risk.

no player is a lock, of course, but brick and mangold have worked out pretty well so far for the jets.

 

[Kiddnets]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

Is he the lock of the draft like Gallery was?Forget taking an OL 1st overall and giving him 40 mil. That's just stupid. You could have gotten Hutch for that, without any of the risk.

no player is a lock, of course, but brick and mangold have worked out pretty well so far for the jets.

That draft plan turned around the JEts in one year - even a below average QB like Chad can pick defenses apart if he has time. They should trade down and get picks and go OL, OL, OL the first 3 selections - I've never seen a worse one except in green and white last year!

Now who are the Lions going to let run the draft and make these decisions????

 

[Slum Lord]

What a choke job by this guy down the stretch - no TDs - heck not even yards the last few games when it counted against some mediocre defenses. Culminates in a big zero after he was ranked the #1 WR on the cheatsheets earlier his week. I know Kitna is a bum - but a zero? I'll be avoiding this guy (along with all Lions) in 2007!

If you call Kitna getting 1.5 seconds to throw the ball or getting sacked, no running game and double coverage on every play a choke job, then sure, whatever floats your boat. He was the only player i had yesterday that gave me no points, but after watching that game, he never had a chance.

 

[gman74]

That idiot just about single-handedly knocked me out of the playoffs!

yeah its his fault that kj got hurt and the oline sucks. if there is one guy other than kj on that team that cares it roy. grow up guys lj had a crap game i dont hear any he should be benched threads

 

[gman74]

That OL is horrible. Kitna has been running for his life the last month. Kitna isn't great but he should be serviceable behind an average OL. It'll depend upon whether the Lions address the OL in the offseason or not.

From what little I have seen of the Lions this year, that seems to be the problem. It's easier for Kitna to get the ball to the RBs and Furrey as he doesn't have time for Roy to get deep. I would think the OC would work around this, throw screens and short passes to Roy, but this appears beyond their ability to grasp. While it's easy to blame Kitna, and he deserves most of the criticism, priority #1 has to be the OL. Take the example of the Jets this past year.

absolutely should do this.maybe go quinn #1, but go OL in the 2nd and 3rd. Should get some decent talent there.

Is he the lock of the draft like Gallery was?Forget taking an OL 1st overall and giving him 40 mil. That's just stupid. You could have gotten Hutch for that, without any of the risk.

Do you know who Brady Quinn is?

yea joey,mitchell,ware,long,hipple jr

 

[piston pete griffin]

Roy will be riding my bench the rest of the year. The Lion's have packed it in for '06.

 

[yinzer]

That idiot just about single-handedly knocked me out of the playoffs!

yeah its his fault that kj got hurt and the oline sucks. if there is one guy other than kj on that team that cares it roy. grow up guys lj had a crap game i dont hear any he should be benched threads

Still though...guy had 1/11 yds vs the packers...all other receivers had more yards and catches than him that played, and he's top 10 WR talent. The guy was leading the league in yards I think around week 8 or so.Im not asking for 120 yards every week like he was putting up there for a stretch, but there's no reason for a statline like that, esp. considering the other options to get the ball to.Yeah, he might have 2 seconds to throw, but he's had great matchups the last 3 weeks I think and I don't think he's put up over 60 yards in any of them.

 

[Kiddnets]

That idiot just about single-handedly knocked me out of the playoffs!

yeah its his fault that kj got hurt and the oline sucks. if there is one guy other than kj on that team that cares it roy. grow up guys lj had a crap game i dont hear any he should be benched threads

Still though...guy had 1/11 yds vs the packers...all other receivers had more yards and catches than him that played, and he's top 10 WR talent. The guy was leading the league in yards I think around week 8 or so.Im not asking for 120 yards every week like he was putting up there for a stretch, but there's no reason for a statline like that, esp. considering the other options to get the ball to.Yeah, he might have 2 seconds to throw, but he's had great matchups the last 3 weeks I think and I don't think he's put up over 60 yards in any of them.

LJ has one lousy game - Roy has been awful the last month. I mean under 60 yds and no TDs awful. This is from a WR consistently ranked top 10 in the FBGs weekly cheat sheets with decent matchups. The OL is awful and Kitna is suspect but that performance drops him for me in my rankings for next year. Even Furrey has been more seviceable and he has the same issues that Roy is dealing with!

 

[Volleydog]

I went back and forth ... and just couldn't pass up Williams vs Green Bay's secondary.

Then I see him ranked 2nd for WRs on FBG, basically confirming my own opinion.

So I start him in the flex spot.

Instead of Marion Barber III ... who scored 24 points to Roy's 1.

I can still pull the game out with 9 from Wayne tonight, but UGH!!!

 

[Xenopax]

I went back and forth ... and just couldn't pass up Williams vs Green Bay's secondary. Then I see him ranked 2nd for WRs on FBG, basically confirming my own opinion. So I start him in the flex spot.Instead of Marion Barber III ... who scored 24 points to Roy's 1. I can still pull the game out with 9 from Wayne tonight, but UGH!!!

Even against the Packers, playing Roy Williams over Marion Barber is a ballsy move.