Rudi Johnson Week 7 Injury Update (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

Monday update from RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson experienced tightness in his injured hamstring during the third quarter of Sunday's loss to Kansas City.

Johnson denied re-aggravating the hamstring, and coach Marvin Lewis said Rudi "came though the game," so the Bengals' decision to limit his touches may have been a result of more than just his bothersome injury. He'll be a risky Week 7 fantasy start in a normally excellent matchup against the Jets.

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

 

[faux_bear]

Monday update from RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson experienced tightness in his injured hamstring during the third quarter of Sunday's loss to Kansas City.

Johnson denied re-aggravating the hamstring, and coach Marvin Lewis said Rudi "came though the game," so the Bengals' decision to limit his touches may have been a result of more than just his bothersome injury. He'll be a risky Week 7 fantasy start in a normally excellent matchup against the Jets.

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

I'm not really sure what this means.

 

[packersfan]

Monday update from RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson experienced tightness in his injured hamstring during the third quarter of Sunday's loss to Kansas City.

Johnson denied re-aggravating the hamstring, and coach Marvin Lewis said Rudi "came though the game," so the Bengals' decision to limit his touches may have been a result of more than just his bothersome injury. He'll be a risky Week 7 fantasy start in a normally excellent matchup against the Jets.

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

I'm not really sure what this means.

It sounds like RotoWorld is speculating that Watson played more because Rudi wasn't playing well when it really sounds like they stopped using him because the injury flared up. According to the Enquirer, it was Lewis who said Rudi's injury flared up.

 

[fflnut]

Asked this in another Rudi-centric thread, but how long do people think it'll take for Chris Perry to work his way into the offense if Rudi is out for more time?

 

[packersfan]

Asked this in another Rudi-centric thread, but how long do people think it'll take for Chris Perry to work his way into the offense if Rudi is out for more time?

Lewis had no comment today when asked about Perry's status or when he might be ready to see playing time.

 

[TheFanatic]

Anyone know if he practiced today?

 

[Rounders]

Anyone know if he practiced today?

I don't think that teams practice today. I always thought that Tues were game planning and film. Wed/Thur/Fri were practice says. Saturday is a walk through and Sunday is game time. Modify this accordingly for Monday night games.I would be interested to hear about his status too, if they did have a practice.

 

[TheFanatic]

Anyone know if he practiced today?

I don't think that teams practice today. I always thought that Tues were game planning and film. Wed/Thur/Fri were practice says. Saturday is a walk through and Sunday is game time. Modify this accordingly for Monday night games.I would be interested to hear about his status too, if they did have a practice.

I was thinking that it may be an off day too, but I figured they had yesterday off except for the two teams that played. Ah well. I'll just bump it tomorrow...

 

[mggoilers]

Asked this in another Rudi-centric thread, but how long do people think it'll take for Chris Perry to work his way into the offense if Rudi is out for more time?

Chris Perry has done nothing but get hurt, why would anyone count on him? He has been a disappointment, and in the same role with the Bengals...Kenny Watson has been more productive and reliable.He's the Bengals version of Buckhalter

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Asked this in another Rudi-centric thread, but how long do people think it'll take for Chris Perry to work his way into the offense if Rudi is out for more time?

Chris Perry has done nothing but get hurt, why would anyone count on him? He has been a disappointment, and in the same role with the Bengals...Kenny Watson has been more productive and reliable.He's the Bengals version of Buckhalter

I don't expect Chris Perry to score another NFL TD until I see it......I am that jaded on him.And BYW I have poured over some Bengals news working the blogger and they did not practice.....only news is Tab Perry to IR...again.

 

[packersfan]

Good news for Rudi owners. From RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson is expected to see an increased workload in Week 7.

It's uncertain how the Bengals plan to divvy up carries, but Kenny Watson figures to continue to play a significant role because of his work in the passing game and the more explosive element he adds. Be sure Rudi doesn't have a setback with his hamstring injury in practice this week before using him as a flex against the Jets. He'd be an undesirable RB2 play.

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

 

[packersfan]

For those interested, Rudi did not practice today. My guess is they're just doing what they can to prevent the hamstring injury from flaring up. But that's just my speculation. We'll know more as the week goes.

 

[Payne]

For those interested, Rudi did not practice today. My guess is they're just doing what they can to prevent the hamstring injury from flaring up. But that's just my speculation. We'll know more as the week goes.

I'm starting Kevin Jones until I see Rudi do something on the field.

 

[nyGIANTSnj]

For those interested, Rudi did not practice today. My guess is they're just doing what they can to prevent the hamstring injury from flaring up. But that's just my speculation. We'll know more as the week goes.

I'm starting Kevin Jones until I see Rudi do something on the field.

SAME HERE

 

[PatrickT]

Good news for Rudi owners. From RotoWorld:Rudi Johnson is expected to see an increased workload in Week 7.It's uncertain how the Bengals plan to divvy up carries, but Kenny Watson figures to continue to play a significant role because of his work in the passing game and the more explosive element he adds. Be sure Rudi doesn't have a setback with his hamstring injury in practice this week before using him as a flex against the Jets. He'd be an undesirable RB2 play.Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

This makes no sense. How can they say he'll see increased workload in the title, when the whole blurb seems to indicate he's still pretty iffy? Am I mis-translating here?

 

[packersfan]

Good news for Rudi owners. From RotoWorld:Rudi Johnson is expected to see an increased workload in Week 7.It's uncertain how the Bengals plan to divvy up carries, but Kenny Watson figures to continue to play a significant role because of his work in the passing game and the more explosive element he adds. Be sure Rudi doesn't have a setback with his hamstring injury in practice this week before using him as a flex against the Jets. He'd be an undesirable RB2 play.Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

This makes no sense. How can they say he'll see increased workload in the title, when the whole blurb seems to indicate he's still pretty iffy? Am I mis-translating here?

Actually, the blurb is almost entirely speculation from RotoWorld. They seem to be the ones guessing that Watson will still be involved. The only news being reported is that Rudi will get more carries. That came from the Bengals' beat writer who I would imagine got the info either from Lewis or another member of the coaching staff. Everything else is speculation the part of RotoWorld, who believe Rudi is playing poorly and Watson is playing great. So that's a very important thing to remember as well.

 

[nyftbl_giants]

rudi's banged up and wheres chris perry....um

 

[TheFanatic]

It's a great matchup for whomever starts for Cinci. I have Rudi penciled in right now to play and unless I hear he suffered a set back he's starting on Sunday for me. But if he practices late in the week and twinges it I'll go with Watson.

Another case of Fantasy owners wishing for a guy to be either 100% or 0%, not anywhere in between. This GTD crap is killing me this year....

I would like to see Rudi get through a full practice today or tomorrow. Anyone know if he practiced today.

 

[packersfan]

From KFFL:

Bengals | R. Johnson works on sidelines Wednesday

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:13:46 -0700

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was working on the side with strength and conditioning coaches during practice Wednesday, Oct. 17.

 

[reg]

Anyone know if he practiced today?

I don't think that teams practice today. I always thought that Tues were game planning and film. Wed/Thur/Fri were practice says. Saturday is a walk through and Sunday is game time. Modify this accordingly for Monday night games.I would be interested to hear about his status too, if they did have a practice.

tuesdays are usually off days for the players to do stuff around the community, at least around here.

 

[Wadsworth]

Good news for Rudi owners. From RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson is expected to see an increased workload in Week 7.

It's uncertain how the Bengals plan to divvy up carries, but Kenny Watson figures to continue to play a significant role because of his work in the passing game and the more explosive element he adds. Be sure Rudi doesn't have a setback with his hamstring injury in practice this week before using him as a flex against the Jets. He'd be an undesirable RB2 play.

Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

This makes no sense. How can they say he'll see increased workload in the title, when the whole blurb seems to indicate he's still pretty iffy? Am I mis-translating here?

Actually, the blurb is almost entirely speculation from RotoWorld. They seem to be the ones guessing that Watson will still be involved. The only news being reported is that Rudi will get more carries. That came from the Bengals' beat writer who I would imagine got the info either from Lewis or another member of the coaching staff. Everything else is speculation the part of RotoWorld, who believe Rudi is playing poorly and Watson is playing great. So that's a very important thing to remember as well.

He had 4 carries last week so 5 would be "more". This is fast becoming an ugly sutuation especially when you consider that Bengals are floundering and play the tough defenses of Pitt and Balt over the 3 weeks following this weeks game.

 

[packersfan]

I read "increased workload" to be more than 5 carries but your point is taken. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. I agree it's a concern but if Rudi can get close to 100% at the very least he's proven he can do well against tough matchups. So I'm not worried about his potential to do well; I'm just worried about how healthy he is and will be the remainder of the season.

 

[PartyTyme]

From KFFL:Bengals | R. Johnson works on sidelines WednesdayWed, 17 Oct 2007 10:13:46 -0700Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was working on the side with strength and conditioning coaches during practice Wednesday, Oct. 17.

Is "working on the side" consider practicing?Or does Rudi show off his new tracksuit and baseball cap this weekend?

 

[Rounders]

From KFFL:Bengals | R. Johnson works on sidelines WednesdayWed, 17 Oct 2007 10:13:46 -0700Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was working on the side with strength and conditioning coaches during practice Wednesday, Oct. 17.

Is "working on the side" consider practicing?Or does Rudi show off his new tracksuit and baseball cap this weekend?

I'm 100% sure he plays this weekend. The question is how much??? I'm encouraged that he came through last weeks game with no major setbacks. So I'm expecting 10-15 carries tops this week. For me he's on the bench, but mainly because I have some other options.

 

[Wadsworth]

I read "increased workload" to be more than 5 carries but your point is taken. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. I agree it's a concern but if Rudi can get close to 100% at the very least he's proven he can do well against tough matchups. So I'm not worried about his potential to do well; I'm just worried about how healthy he is and will be the remainder of the season.

Well, the Bengals are 1-4 right now. How much longer does the rest of the season last? I know they aren't going to completely fold up the tents if they get out of the playoff race, but if they are 2-8 going into week 12, I don't like my chances with Rubi's production for the rest of the season.

 

[packersfan]

Rudi didn't practice again today. This is from the official site:

A couple notables were back at practice Thursday, including safety Madieu Williams and tight end Reggie Kelly. But the others who were listed on Wednesday's "Did Not Participate in Practice" portion of the injury report - linebacker Ahmad Brooks, wide receiver Antonio Chatman, running back Rudi Johnson, linebacker Corey Mays and linebacker Caleb Miller - also didn't work Thursday.

Johnson was dressed in sweats and it didn't look like he was even going to do any work on the side.

 

[packersfan]

Another Thursday update - this one from the Cincinnati Enquirer:

Also this morning, starting tailback Rudi Johnson (hamstring) is on the sideline working out with a strength and conditioning coach.

 

[sho nuff]

Hmmm...I wish I knew more.

Dropped Watson this week for Faulk.

Though, may drop him anyway as I need a bye week TE to fill in for Winslow.

If only Chicago defense was not blowing I could roll with them all year instead of having to pick up Washington this week.

Or...if I could just drop them outright.

Yuck.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

In related news, Chris Perry practiced today. (Cincy Enquirer)

 

[Rounders]

I'm wondering if this will be the norm for Rudi. No practice or limited practice then suit up for games, go test the injury before the game and make the call then.

As a Rudi owner, very frustrating.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm wondering if this will be the norm for Rudi. No practice or limited practice then suit up for games, go test the injury before the game and make the call then.As a Rudi owner, very frustrating.

It is very frustrating. One thing to consider is that he doesn't really need to work on anything in practice as a WR might to get timing down. Or a QB playing against a D that is running the schemes that the weekend opponent will run, etc. He just has to take the ball and run.And as of right now, I'm not worried. Frustrated but not worried. I like the fact that they are taking it easy on the guy. But if he doesn't practice tomorrow then I'm really going to get nervous. It's looking like Ced Benson's getting the nod for me if Rudi doesn't practice tomorrow...

 

[PatrickT]

I just want them to go one way or the other. This "playing but not starting" silliness is the most frustrating. And, to add to the fun, it's a 4:00 game, while Lendale and Norwood are 1:00.

B-E-A-utiful!

 

[packersfan]

For me, it's simple - if Rudi starts, I'm starting him. If Watson starts, Rudi sits. I don't care if we hear they may rotate series (we heard that last week). The matchup is pretty damn good so if Rudi got 10-15 carries in a non-starting role he'd be at least a solid RB3 potentially. But it's too risky to me. I think if the Bengals are confident Rudi is ready to get a good number of carries he'll start. If they go with Watson that tells me the coaching staff isn't convinced he's ready to carry the ball a lot. So he goes to my bench.

 

[mdog1967]

Good news for Rudi owners. From RotoWorld:Rudi Johnson is expected to see an increased workload in Week 7.It's uncertain how the Bengals plan to divvy up carries, but Kenny Watson figures to continue to play a significant role because of his work in the passing game and the more explosive element he adds. Be sure Rudi doesn't have a setback with his hamstring injury in practice this week before using him as a flex against the Jets. He'd be an undesirable RB2 play.Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

This makes no sense. How can they say he'll see increased workload in the title, when the whole blurb seems to indicate he's still pretty iffy? Am I mis-translating here?

Actually, the blurb is almost entirely speculation from RotoWorld. They seem to be the ones guessing that Watson will still be involved. The only news being reported is that Rudi will get more carries. That came from the Bengals' beat writer who I would imagine got the info either from Lewis or another member of the coaching staff. Everything else is speculation the part of RotoWorld, who believe Rudi is playing poorly and Watson is playing great. So that's a very important thing to remember as well.

ROTOWORLD has been lights out for information since last season. With the exception of quoting a few ding bat blurbs from ESPN they have been the gold standard this year. Its the first and last place I check on Sunday morning. However if Greg leaves ROTOWORLD they will return to a Baseball primary site. Watson has outplayed Rudi this year, which is a killer. I dont think Watson is better, just fresher and healthy.

 

[packersfan]

I agree about RotoWorld. They have been a great source for info this year. No doubt. I just think they are anti-Rudi and very pro-Watson so that tends to factor into their analysis. I just think that needs to be taken into consideration is all.

 

[packersfan]

Friday morning update:

Running back Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was among those who did not practice. Kenny Watson should get the majority of carries against the Jets even if Johnson is healthy enough to play.

Link

 

[Warhound]

I traded him away on Wednesday. His situation just got too frustrating for me and I'd rather not have to worry about playing him or not. Even though he was my first round pick he has stunk it up and he wasn't contributing on my team anyway so off he went to be someone else's headache.

 

[packersfan]

I traded him away on Wednesday.

What did you get for him?

 

[faux_bear]

Friday morning update:

Running back Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was among those who did not practice. Kenny Watson should get the majority of carries against the Jets even if Johnson is healthy enough to play.

Link

This sounds like a report of Thursday's practice no? The rest of it sounds like an opinion. I wonder (doubt) if it's based on anything the coaches have said.

 

[faux_bear]

Being 6-0, I can afford to have the headache for a couple of more weeks, while hoping he's 100% for the playoff run. I just don't think I'd be able to get appropriate value for him on the trade market. But for god sakes, it baffles me that the Bengals coaches would continue to play him out there when he's not fully healed, and risk him getting hurt for a longer period of time. It makes no sense to me.

 

[PatrickT]

Crap. Guess it's Lendale again. This has happened to me all year, guys out for choice matchups. At least it looks like a solid bet for 75/1 for Lendale.

Edit to say I hope, at least, that they go one way or another. If I could start Watson with certainty, I would.

 

[packersfan]

Being 6-0, I can afford to have the headache for a couple of more weeks, while hoping he's 100% for the playoff run. I just don't think I'd be able to get appropriate value for him on the trade market. But for god sakes, it baffles me that the Bengals coaches would continue to play him out there when he's not fully healed, and risk him getting hurt for a longer period of time. It makes no sense to me.

I agree. If he isn't ready to start, sit him. Lewis seems to be losing it with that team. It's incredibly stupid to play Rudi if he isn't ready to start.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Being 6-0, I can afford to have the headache for a couple of more weeks, while hoping he's 100% for the playoff run. I just don't think I'd be able to get appropriate value for him on the trade market. But for god sakes, it baffles me that the Bengals coaches would continue to play him out there when he's not fully healed, and risk him getting hurt for a longer period of time. It makes no sense to me.

I agree. If he isn't ready to start, sit him. Lewis seems to be losing it with that team. It's incredibly stupid to play Rudi if he isn't ready to start.

like last week

 

[packersfan]

Rudi owners probably should find another option again this week. From RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson (hamstring) was absent for the media portion of Bengals practice Friday.

Unless it's later revealed that Johnson took part in drills during the period not available to the media, he will have missed practice all week. That would likely lead Johnson to be a game-time decision. Either way, Kenny Watson is the favorite to carry the bulk of the Bengals' load against the Jets and looks like a good flex play in points-per-reception leagues at worst. Rudi isn't usable.

Source: bengals.com

 

[packersfan]

Another update from RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson is listed as doubtful Sunday's game. Kenny Watson is likely to make his second consecutive start, this week against the Jets.

While Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says Johnson will be a game-time call, he failed to practice at all during the week and is unlikely to be a major threat to Watson's carries even if he's active. Watson is a strong flex and borderline RB2 in PPR leagues. Rudi shouldn't be relied upon by fantasy owners.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Another update from RotoWorld:Rudi Johnson is listed as doubtful Sunday's game. Kenny Watson is likely to make his second consecutive start, this week against the Jets.While Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says Johnson will be a game-time call, he failed to practice at all during the week and is unlikely to be a major threat to Watson's carries even if he's active. Watson is a strong flex and borderline RB2 in PPR leagues. Rudi shouldn't be relied upon by fantasy owners.

Marvin screwed up by last week by putting him in and letting him run it 4 times if he wasn't ready to go (which is obvious he wasn't cause he didn't start).So he misses one game, goes on a bye, effectively misses the next 2 games, then plays the Steelers. Great run. Hope they just sit him out next week too.First time I drafted Rudi ever, figured it is a guy I just play every week, never gets hurt, blah blah blah

 

[TeddyKGB]

This news is better than no news. Sucks if you don't have Watson.

 

[PatrickT]

Another update from RotoWorld:

Rudi Johnson is listed as doubtful Sunday's game. Kenny Watson is likely to make his second consecutive start, this week against the Jets.

While Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says Johnson will be a game-time call, he failed to practice at all during the week and is unlikely to be a major threat to Watson's carries even if he's active. Watson is a strong flex and borderline RB2 in PPR leagues. Rudi shouldn't be relied upon by fantasy owners.

Marvin screwed up by last week by putting him in and letting him run it 4 times if he wasn't ready to go (which is obvious he wasn't cause he didn't start).So he misses one game, goes on a bye, effectively misses the next 2 games, then plays the Steelers. Great run. Hope they just sit him out next week too.

First time I drafted Rudi ever, figured it is a guy I just play every week, never gets hurt, blah blah blah

Me too. I actually reached a bit for him because he's been a quietly consistent performer the last few years. My fantasy teams: Where productive players go to die. Well, I have Watson, but with a 4PM game I probably won't get a definitive answer in time. Will probably just roll the dice with Watson.

 

[SteelerMurf]

This news is better than no news. Sucks if you don't have Watson.

Watson is horrible, I don't get this sudden obsession with Watson. He has done nothing with his chance to shine without Rudi around.He is on waivers in all of my leagues, but is a message board hero?

 

[packersfan]

This news is better than no news. Sucks if you don't have Watson.

Watson is horrible, I don't get this sudden obsession with Watson. He has done nothing with his chance to shine without Rudi around.He is on waivers in all of my leagues, but is a message board hero?

I don't think he's been anything special either but he's been OK and this is a terrific matchup. I think he has RB2 potential this week - especially in PPR leagues. He'll be good for 3-5 receptions in all probability.