Ruh Roh! Antonio Brown to hold out? (1 Viewer)

[Godsbrother]

He has absolutely zero leverage in this situation. Or maybe I am missing something?

I agree. I'm just interested form the standpoint that, over the years it seems every time a guy starts saying "pay me" in Pittsburgh, his future checks come in Miami, Arizona, Oakland, etc.

his production is his leverage. no the steelers can not just replace him.

The Steelers don't have to replace him. Brown will report, he has no choice unless he wants to hold out for 3 years

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm sure the Steelers realize that Brown has outplayed his contract $$$, but how about all of the other players they paid $$$ who underperformed their contracts, do the Steelers get reimbursed? I know they can cut them, but the team is still eating a lot of $$$ from underperforming players and the $$$ is still counted against the team's salary cap. I hope Brown does get some additional $$$, just don't think the Steelers or any team is obligated to redo a player's contract.

yeah, I'll be looking fwd to the day a player gives money back for underperforming, or a team holds back a guy's game check 'cuz he was 2/20 with a fumble and 2 drops.

Guys are asked to take pay cuts all the time.

and...?

they aren't forced to take pay cuts, they agree to take pay cuts.

their alternative is to be cut and find a better deal on the open market, so they take the cut knowing they aren't worth any more than what the club is offering.

marcedes lewis hasn't given back a penny, as he was never paid that 4m, which is why these kind of comments are so ignorant.

I don't know what's so hard to understand about all this but as I've already pointed out, and as gets pointed out every single year in similar threads, the contract calls for a certain salary paid in a certain year if that player makes the roster --- he is not guaranteed a roster spot.

if brown makes the roster this year and refuses to play for said amount then he's not holding up his end of the deal.

if brown makes the roster and the steelers refuse to pay him, then the steelers are not holding up their end of the deal, but you have never even seen that happen once, as the player would sue the money out of them.

While I agree with you in theory, you shot yourself in the foot here. Based on this, Brown needs to drop every ball in pre-season so he gets cut and can go find a new contract.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I'm sure the Steelers realize that Brown has outplayed his contract $$$, but how about all of the other players they paid $$$ who underperformed their contracts, do the Steelers get reimbursed? I know they can cut them, but the team is still eating a lot of $$$ from underperforming players and the $$$ is still counted against the team's salary cap. I hope Brown does get some additional $$$, just don't think the Steelers or any team is obligated to redo a player's contract.

yeah, I'll be looking fwd to the day a player gives money back for underperforming, or a team holds back a guy's game check 'cuz he was 2/20 with a fumble and 2 drops.

Guys are asked to take pay cuts all the time.

and...?

they aren't forced to take pay cuts, they agree to take pay cuts.

their alternative is to be cut and find a better deal on the open market, so they take the cut knowing they aren't worth any more than what the club is offering.

marcedes lewis hasn't given back a penny, as he was never paid that 4m, which is why these kind of comments are so ignorant.

I don't know what's so hard to understand about all this but as I've already pointed out, and as gets pointed out every single year in similar threads, the contract calls for a certain salary paid in a certain year if that player makes the roster --- he is not guaranteed a roster spot.

if brown makes the roster this year and refuses to play for said amount then he's not holding up his end of the deal.

if brown makes the roster and the steelers refuse to pay him, then the steelers are not holding up their end of the deal, but you have never even seen that happen once, as the player would sue the money out of them.

While I agree with you in theory, you shot yourself in the foot here. Based on this, Brown needs to drop every ball in pre-season so he gets cut and can go find a new contract.

wat

shark pool be sharkin'

 

[pghrob]

guaranteed money is the only thing players care about.....I blame AB and his agent for agreeing to the 6 year gig....they misplayed their hand before the flop and are now wanting to get bailed out.....sorry your recent production is not in line with market value and you are now underpaid....but thats the way it goes sometimes......we'd all like to think our boss would "make it right" but teams will get gun shy and the Wallace contract is a perfect example of why they are hesitant to redo things.....at what point are a player and his agent held accountable for misplaying their hand.....I bet when they signed that last contract there was a big ####### party.....and they were jumping around as happy as can be.....now they are going to try and make the people who gave them that joy, look like cheapskates....they knew the game when they pulled the trigger on a 6 year deal.....

Great post. If players and agents don't want to get caught being paid below market then only agree on year to year contracts. Revis did that and it is working out just fine for him. Brown on the other hand, signed a long term deal before he broke out as one of the best young WRs in the game. He and his agent risked fair market value later down the line for the peace of mind and security of a long term deal that paid him above fair market at the time he made the agreement. I understand what they did then and why they are doing what they are doing now. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

steelers gave him more than 9m in 2013 off 2 seasons where he averaged 67/950/3 --- that's about what rueben randle put up last year.

where were all you guys chirpin' about where he ranked in $$ that year?

 

[ghostguy123]

Uh oh, another in the long line of hold out sagas that gets everyone all crazy, only to have the player report and play.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

He has become a massive Richard lately, moreso than normal. Not sure what the deal is. Maybe that's how he celebrates Super Bowl wins?

how'd you know I won my superbowl?

this is starting to get creepy