Rumor: Peppers to the Vikings for the #17 (1 Viewer)

[Atomic Punk]

"The Pioneer Press reports if Carolina becomes convinced it can't re-sign DE Julius Peppers, who becomes an unrestricted free agent next year and wants a boatload of money, and if the Vikings are willing to part with their first-round (No. 17) draft pick next month plus at least $20 million in guaranteed money, Minnesota might be able to trade for the star defensive end. "

Seems a little far fetched, but if the Panthers don't want to pay Peppers some big time coin, I suppose it is possible, given the amount of cap space the Vikings have. This sure would shake up the first round a little.

 

[JPeso]

"The Pioneer Press reports if Carolina becomes convinced it can't re-sign DE Julius Peppers, who becomes an unrestricted free agent next year and wants a boatload of money, and if the Vikings are willing to part with their first-round (No. 17) draft pick next month plus at least $20 million in guaranteed money, Minnesota might be able to trade for the star defensive end. "Seems a little far fetched, but if the Panthers don't want to pay Peppers some big time coin, I suppose it is possible, given the amount of cap space the Vikings have. This sure would shake up the first round a little.

He will walk soon anyways. Might be a nice long-term move as this guy will demand a HUGE contract.

 

[The Man With No Name]

How much under the cap are they? Peppers has a $14 million cap hit for 2008. He may not want to sign a long term contract with Minnesota either.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

This rumor floated around awhile ago in the Vikings offseason thread. I think it's highly unlikely to happen but it would be huge for the Vikings if it did.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

How much under the cap are they? Peppers has a $14 million cap hit for 2008. He may not want to sign a long term contract with Minnesota either.

My guess is that he'd love to line up next to the Williams'. I would expect his numbers to return to pro-bowl caliber.

 

[sho nuff]

Great move for Minny if it would happen.

So as Packer fan...I really hope its nothing but a speculative journalist running his mouth.

 

[Zerp]

Given the uncertainty of a high priced first round pick, and in IMO the Vikes have fared worse than most, the Vikes should pay up and count themselves fortunate for the opportunity.

 

[Gopher State]

March 13th, 2008 – 9:22 AM by Kevin Seifert Star Tribune

Sid’s estimate of the Vikings’ salary cap situation is accurate. The Vikings have about $19 million in space even after signing four free agents, including WR Bernard Berrian and S Madieu Williams. Some of that will go toward signing their future draft class, but there is not enough talent on the free agent market to use up the entire allotment.

What that means is the Vikings will once again be able to push at least $15 million in this unused cap space into 2009, provided they take advantage of the annual loophole that allows them to write absurd incentives into contracts for cap purposes.

To recap, the Vikings began the offseason with about $37 million in cap space — including some $18 million in credits from incentives that weren’t earned in 2007.

Appears cap not issue if they go after Peppers

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Panthers GM Marty Hurney says "No way" Link

 

[mad sweeney]

There are so many ifs, mights and maybes in that statement it's hardly more than an idea some writer grabbed out of thin air. It's certainly not based on anything that originated from the teams involved that might do this if the other team might want to do that if they can't do something else first, and only then...maybe. No offense but it sin't even a rumor, just words.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

This was written by Charley Walters...which means that it is based on absolutely NOTHING. He just spouts out what he thinks...interesting to read, but nothing is ever true.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Still an interesting discussion point IMO.

Carolina is a middle of the pack team at best right now and needs help in a few areas. Peppers had a down year in comparison to previous years and could also use the cap room and an influx of youth. A trade for the #17 (and C. Taylor) for Peppers makes sense for the Panthers.

For Minny, it is also a no-brainer since they have the cap room and a long standing need at DE. They are pretty close (T. Jackson ??) and a move like this could take them that next step.

Too bad that it just speculation ... I like it from both perspectives.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Still an interesting discussion point IMO.Carolina is a middle of the pack team at best right now and needs help in a few areas. Peppers had a down year in comparison to previous years and could also use the cap room and an influx of youth. A trade for the #17 (and C. Taylor) for Peppers makes sense for the Panthers.For Minny, it is also a no-brainer since they have the cap room and a long standing need at DE. They are pretty close (T. Jackson ??) and a move like this could take them that next step.Too bad that it just speculation ... I like it from both perspectives.

I would not doubt that Hurney and the Panthers FO are entertaining all trade opportunities, but I can understand why he would not want to provide even the smallest tidbit of information pertaining to Peppers possibly being traded to the media or the Panthers community. It would cause an unneccesary uproar that he and the Panthers would rather keep bottled up, if that was indeed the case.

 

[Raider Nation]

I thought this was about Culpepper when I read it quickly. Almost fell off the toilet.

 

[ditka85]

I thought this was about Culpepper when I read it quickly. Almost fell off the toilet.

You take your laptop in the bathroom? Man, I thought I was hardcore.

 

[gianmarco]

I thought this was about Culpepper when I read it quickly. Almost fell off the toilet.

You take your laptop in the bathroom? Man, I thought I was hardcore.

I leave my charging cord in there.

 

[vandyt]

"The Pioneer Press reports if Carolina becomes convinced it can't re-sign DE Julius Peppers, who becomes an unrestricted free agent next year and wants a boatload of money, and if the Vikings are willing to part with their first-round (No. 17) draft pick next month plus at least $20 million in guaranteed money, Minnesota might be able to trade for the star defensive end. "

Seems a little far fetched, but if the Panthers don't want to pay Peppers some big time coin, I suppose it is possible, given the amount of cap space the Vikings have. This sure would shake up the first round a little.

He will walk soon anyways. Might be a nice long-term move as this guy will demand a HUGE contract.

This isn't baseball. He'll be franchise tagged next year if no agreement is reached. I can't possibly rationalize this deal on the Panthers' behalf. Peppers will almost certainly be MUCH MUCH better this year than he was last, as hes in a contract year, and as a result, he'll have a much higher trade value. Moving him now for the #17 isn't nearly worth it for the Panthers. Why not get another year out of him at a fairly cheap salary AND get more trade compensation in return next spring?

 

[Bob Magaw]

there has been some speculation that CAR may not want to break the bank for peppers if he has another season like '07...

it wouldn't exactly increase hurney's leverage with other teams if he blurted out he is desperate to offload his salary, even if it was true...

that said, peppers is just one bad season removed from being one of the brightest young defensive stars in the NFL firmament, so it does seem a bit far fetched that they would give up on his so easily...

 

[Mail Ministry]

I can't possibly rationalize this deal on the Panthers' behalf. Peppers will almost certainly be MUCH MUCH better this year than he was last, as hes in a contract year, and as a result, he'll have a much higher trade value. Moving him now for the #17 isn't nearly worth it for the Panthers. Why not get another year out of him at a fairly cheap salary AND get more trade compensation in return next spring?

I totally agree. It won't happen for the reasons stated above by vandyt. However, for the sake of argument. If MIN pulled off this trade they would be by far the best team in the NFC North!grading this trade possibility on a scale from 1-10, 1 being no chance and 10 being its a done deal. I'll give it a 2.

 

[Raider Nation]

I thought this was about Culpepper when I read it quickly. Almost fell off the toilet.

You take your laptop in the bathroom? Man, I thought I was hardcore.

Doesn't everyone? I do my best reading in there.

 

[pantherclub]

there has been some speculation that CAR may not want to break the bank for peppers if he has another season like '07...it wouldn't exactly increase hurney's leverage with other teams if he blurted out he is desperate to offload his salary, even if it was true...that said, peppers is just one bad season removed from being one of the brightest young defensive stars in the NFL firmament, so it does seem a bit far fetched that they would give up on his so easily...

The hot rumor throughout the season last year was that he had mono at some point before the season and thus the reason for the lackluster performance. He should be fine this year and the Panthers will pay him whatever it takes to keep him. He is a local favorite and the Panthers know there would be a huge backlash if they moved him or didnt sign him.

 

[Schrute]

This was written by Charley Walters...which means that it is based on absolutely NOTHING. He just spouts out what he thinks...interesting to read, but nothing is ever true.

 

[glumpy]

there has been some speculation that CAR may not want to break the bank for peppers if he has another season like '07...

it wouldn't exactly increase hurney's leverage with other teams if he blurted out he is desperate to offload his salary, even if it was true...

that said, peppers is just one bad season removed from being one of the brightest young defensive stars in the NFL firmament, so it does seem a bit far fetched that they would give up on his so easily...

The hot rumor throughout the season last year was that he had mono at some point before the season and thus the reason for the lackluster performance. He should be fine this year and the Panthers will pay him whatever it takes to keep him. He is a local favorite and the Panthers know there would be a huge backlash if they moved him or didnt sign him.

I think that bolded part is a major consideration here.

 

[Schrute]

"The Pioneer Press reports if Carolina becomes convinced it can't re-sign DE Julius Peppers, who becomes an unrestricted free agent next year and wants a boatload of money, and if the Vikings are willing to part with their first-round (No. 17) draft pick next month plus at least $20 million in guaranteed money, Minnesota might be able to trade for the star defensive end. "

Honestly, this is just absolute garbage. Using this logic, you could link any player in the NFL to any other team in a potential trade. If Team X doesn't want to pay for Player Z and Team Y is willing to give up this, that or another thing, then this trade could happen. Give me a break! Charley Walters is a complete idiot.

 

[Atomic Punk]

I haven't checked his stats, but I recall Peppers having a down year when Jenkins was out. With Jenkins being moved this year, it will put a lot more pressure on Peppers to step up and take on more double teams since there isn't anyone on their line that really scares anybody.

I've always really liked Peppers, but he is a real boom or bust player that can disappear for games at a time. Don't get me wrong, he comes up with a lot of big plays but in comparison Jason Taylor comes up with even more big plays and is also a pretty steady performer overall.

The #17 alone may not be enough to get Peppers out of Carolina, but the rumor that someone added above was that Chester Taylor was also involved. Not sure how we would fit in Carolina, as I thought they would be more interested in a bruiser to team up DWill.

The Carolina FO has to acknowledge the fact that they have a lot of holes in their lineup. Taking advantage of your biggest commodity and reducing your future salary cap hit makes sense. I don't give the rumor a lot of credence either ... 25% chance this happens, at best.

 

[massraider]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.

I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

 

[redman]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

 

[massraider]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

 

[VaCatFan]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

 

[redman]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

 

[sho nuff]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

He must be done then. Look at the rest of his career...no...the statement of just what he did last year does not say it all.

 

[pantherclub]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

Of course it was denied what else would they say?

 

[redman]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

Of course it was denied what else would they say?

What did they gain from lying? I can understand if you have a chronic orthopedic problem how you might want to keep that from your opponents, but mono? I don't see it.

 

[massraider]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

He must be done then. Look at the rest of his career...no...the statement of just what he did last year does not say it all.

I didn't say he was done, so spare me the eye roll.My point is, and I apologize for not being clear, is that he you kind of need to address WHY that happened, and WHY Carolina is willing to trade him.If I am trading a high draft pick or two, and throwing in a mega deal, it better be for a guy that mustered more than 2.5 sacks last year.I like Peppers, but I do happen to think he's a bit overrated, and his play doesn't match his name.

 

[vandyt]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

Of course it was denied what else would they say?

What did they gain from lying? I can understand if you have a chronic orthopedic problem how you might want to keep that from your opponents, but mono? I don't see it.

Not sure what the NFL's policy is on contagious sickness, but I would assume there is some sort of rule in place that would make it hard to Peppers to get on the field if he truly did have mono.

 

[lord_helmet]

Educate me please, what kind of a condition is mono ?

 

[VaCatFan]

Educate me please, what kind of a condition is mono ?

from kidshealth.orgWhat Is Mono?Infectious mononucleosis (pronounced: mah-no-noo-klee-oh-sus), sometimes called "mono" or "the kissing disease," is an infection usually caused by the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV). EBV is very common, and many people have been exposed to the virus at some time in childhood.Not everyone who is exposed to EBV develops the symptoms of mono, though. As with many viruses, it is possible to be exposed to and infected with EBV without becoming sick.People who have been infected with EBV will carry the virus for the rest of their lives — even if they never have any signs or symptoms of mono. People who do show symptoms of having mono probably will not get sick or have symptoms again.Although EBV is the most common cause of mono, other viruses, such as cytomegalovirus (pronounced: sye-toe-meh-guh-low-vye-rus), can cause a similar illness. Like EBV, cytomegalovirus stays in the body for life and may not cause any symptoms.People often kid around about mono, but as Ashley discovered, it's no joke. A case of mono can keep you out of commission for weeks.How Do People Get Mono?One common way to "catch" mono is by kissing someone who has been infected, which is how the illness got its "kissing disease" nickname. If you have never been infected with EBV, kissing someone who is infected can put you at risk for getting the disease.But what if you haven't kissed anyone? You can also get mononucleosis through other types of direct contact with saliva (spit) from someone infected with EBV, such as by sharing a straw, a toothbrush, or an eating utensil.Some people who have the virus in their bodies never have any symptoms, but it is still possible for them to pass it to others. Experts believe that EBV can even spread from people who had the virus months before.How Do I Know if I Have It?Symptoms usually begin to appear 4 to 7 weeks after infection with the virus. Signs that you may have mono include: * constant fatigue * fever * sore throat * loss of appetite * swollen lymph nodes (commonly called glands, located in your neck, underarms, and groin) * headaches * sore muscles * larger-than-normal liver or spleen * skin rash * abdominal painPeople who have mono may have different combinations of these symptoms, and some may have symptoms so mild that they hardly notice them. Others may have no symptoms at all.Even if you have several of these symptoms, don't try to diagnose yourself. Always consult your doctor if you have a fever, sore throat, and swollen glands or are unusually tired for no apparent reason.Because the symptoms of mono are so general and can be signs of other illnesses, it's possible to mistake mononucleosis for the flu, strep throat, or other diseases. In fact, occasionally some people may have mono and strep throat at the same time.When making a diagnosis, the doctor may want to take some blood tests to see if mono is causing the symptoms. But even if the blood tests indicate mono, there isn't much the doctor can do other than advise a person to drink lots of fluids and get plenty of rest.

 

[redman]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.

I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?

IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.

As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

Of course it was denied what else would they say?

What did they gain from lying? I can understand if you have a chronic orthopedic problem how you might want to keep that from your opponents, but mono? I don't see it.

Not sure what the NFL's policy is on contagious sickness, but I would assume there is some sort of rule in place that would make it hard to Peppers to get on the field if he truly did have mono.

Well, you're going to have to have a pretty strange concept of the Panthers' policy on contageous disease to have them intentionally covering up that a player has mono to keep him on the field. I very much doubt that John Fox was lying to keep Peppers on the field and exposed to his teammates. Besides (and this article makes reference to it, though I remember it from my case of mono in college) your spleen is enlarged and therefore at greater risk for rupture. Again, I don't see the Panthers or Peppers lying about that to keep him on the field.

 

[VaCatFan]

FYI.... Minnesota may have a challenger.

Peppers spotted in Denver, deal with Broncos possible?

Julius Peppers

Carolina Panthers general manager Marty Hurney says he isn't trying to trade Julius Peppers, but among those sitting prominently courtside in the Pepsi Center for a Nuggets game Sunday night was the three-time Pro Bowl defensive end according to the Rocky Mountain News.

Peppers still has one year remaining on his contract — it runs through the 2008 season — but with the Denver Broncos having finished 19th in the league in sacks this past season and trade rumors swirling around Peppers it is only natural to wonder if there is something in the works between Denver and Carolina.

Peppers, coming off a career-worst 2 1/2 sacks in '07 and having finished the year on injured reserve, has been the subject of trade rumors around the league for weeks, so much so that Hurney went public earlier this month saying there was "nothing to it." Peppers' agent, Carl Carey, also publicly has denied the ever-spinning rumor mill about his client. Even with the subpar year in '07, Peppers still is looking for more money from the Panthers or anybody else than the Broncos

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This thread is such a tease.

 

[vandyt]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.

I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

Strahan had 5.5 sacks in 1999. Two years later he set the NFL record. Unless you have a particular reason you can point to why a guy is no longer effective, such as a major injury, I don't see a reason to panic over 1 bad statistical year for an elite player, especially when his entire team was playing poorly and DE's tend to play well into their 30's.

The fact that there's no injury to point to doesn't make me less nervous, it makes me MORE nervous. And a 2.5 sack year makes one wonder. It doesn't make you wonder??And if a team is going to trade for Peppers, and commit to a long term extension, if I am that other team, I want to know why the guy disappeared for an entire year, and why the Panthers are willing to trade him. The guy plays LE, a tough spot to find a two-way end. Why aren't they trying to re-sign him? Why not make him play out his deal, and then franchise him for a year or two (worst case-scenario)?

IMO, if these rumors of Peppers' availability are true, it's because the Panthers don't think he's worth it. I think Peppers os good, don't get me wrong here. I think is a very good DE. However, I think he can be accounted for, blocked, and handled.

As to his team performing poorly, Kansas City hasn't had a stud team since Jared Allen got there, and he's is a monster every game, even when he was out drinking the night before.

He wasn't injured last year. He was sick. He contracted mono early on in the year and couldn't take the medicine to help deal with it because it's on the NFL banned substance list (steroids)

That rumor was denied by both Fox and Peppers himself back in November.

Of course it was denied what else would they say?

What did they gain from lying? I can understand if you have a chronic orthopedic problem how you might want to keep that from your opponents, but mono? I don't see it.

Not sure what the NFL's policy is on contagious sickness, but I would assume there is some sort of rule in place that would make it hard to Peppers to get on the field if he truly did have mono.

Well, you're going to have to have a pretty strange concept of the Panthers' policy on contageous disease to have them intentionally covering up that a player has mono to keep him on the field. I very much doubt that John Fox was lying to keep Peppers on the field and exposed to his teammates. Besides (and this article makes reference to it, though I remember it from my case of mono in college) your spleen is enlarged and therefore at greater risk for rupture. Again, I don't see the Panthers or Peppers lying about that to keep him on the field.

As I said, I dont know what the NFL or the Panthers' policy is.To your second point, I think you are ridiculously underestimating what a player and/or coach will lie about or do to keep winning games and making money.

 

[sho nuff]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

He must be done then. Look at the rest of his career...no...the statement of just what he did last year does not say it all.

I didn't say he was done, so spare me the eye roll.My point is, and I apologize for not being clear, is that he you kind of need to address WHY that happened, and WHY Carolina is willing to trade him.If I am trading a high draft pick or two, and throwing in a mega deal, it better be for a guy that mustered more than 2.5 sacks last year.I like Peppers, but I do happen to think he's a bit overrated, and his play doesn't match his name.

His play does not match his name?12, 7, 11, 10.5, 13Those were his sacks in his first 5 years before the 2.5 of last season.With 20 forced fumbles in his first 6 years (that includes the 3 last year)I think his play matches up just fine.

 

[VaCatFan]

He had 2.5 sacks last year.I was gonna add a bunch more comments, but that statement kinda says it all.

He must be done then. Look at the rest of his career...no...the statement of just what he did last year does not say it all.

I didn't say he was done, so spare me the eye roll.My point is, and I apologize for not being clear, is that he you kind of need to address WHY that happened, and WHY Carolina is willing to trade him.If I am trading a high draft pick or two, and throwing in a mega deal, it better be for a guy that mustered more than 2.5 sacks last year.I like Peppers, but I do happen to think he's a bit overrated, and his play doesn't match his name.

His play does not match his name?12, 7, 11, 10.5, 13Those were his sacks in his first 5 years before the 2.5 of last season.With 20 forced fumbles in his first 6 years (that includes the 3 last year)I think his play matches up just fine.

Don't forget to add 31 passes defended, 4 interceptions and 1 returned for TD.

 

[Atomic Punk]

This thread is such a tease.

I hear ya ... this would be an excellent move for the Vikes.I agree with others that Peppers hasn't fully lived up to his billing. Sure he puts up good numbers, but he also disappears for long stretches at a time. He always struck me as one of those players that had the incredible skill, but didn't love the game like you need to become elitle. No stst or anything to back this up, just watching game film and gut feel.Still, considering the weakness the Vikings have at DE, the #17 is well worth it.

 

[Donnybrook]

This was written by Charley Walters...which means that it is based on absolutely NOTHING. He just spouts out what he thinks...interesting to read, but nothing is ever true.

I can't believe people keep bumping this thread when it is based upon nothing more than Charley Walters'

 

[Atomic Punk]

This was written by Charley Walters...which means that it is based on absolutely NOTHING. He just spouts out what he thinks...interesting to read, but nothing is ever true.

I can't believe people keep bumping this thread when it is based upon nothing more than Charley Walters'

I've never understood the logic in this?? Complaining about people "bumping" a thread, by "bumping" the thread.I don't know who Charley Walters is and I don't really care. People make comments and others reply ... it is called discussion.I thought the topic was interesting, as I was contemplating what the Panthers could do to improve their team as I was preparing my mock draft. Generally this thought process includes possibilities as to what assets a given team could move to make their team better. In the case of the Panthers, Peppers was one of the only "moveable asset" of any decent value that I could think of now that Jenkins has been moved. The Vikings are one of the obvious dance partners for Peppers due to their ongoing weakness at DE.

 

[JMon348]

williams x2 beside peppers



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