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This kind of reminds me of a couple of years ago when Carolina had drafted Jonathan Stewart. Deangelo had one great game in week 3 or 4 and everyone said sell him because Stewart will take over. Well everyone knows what happened after that.Now Im not saying McFadden will have a crazy year like that but I would hold on to a guy who has the potential for a breakout year.

 
I was offered Beanie in a redraft standard scoring league. I have no interest in that deal but just sharing some general value I've seen.

 
Highlights are up online:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...dden-Highlights

It's only a few plays, but I didn't see anything spectacular in there. One decent cut, but that's about it. He still looks shockingly thin in the lower body and while he demonstrates the willingness to lower his shoulder, that's not going to result in any broken tackles.

I still don't think he's an above average RB at this level. What I do like is his situation. I don't think the other backs on the Raiders are very good. Maybe McFadden will have a decent season by sheer accumulation. I'd still be looking to sell if I could get a quality starter in return.

 
Bush has got to be returning soon. I'm trying to trade DMC for Shonn Greene in a classic case of sell high/buy low. Given DMC's injury history, competition for carries (especially goal line), and fickle Oakland offense, I'd say you guys should try to sell high as well.
That doesn't strike me as selling high. It just sounds like selling to sell. You're definitely buying low, I'll give you that.
 
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Highlights are up online:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...dden-Highlights

It's only a few plays, but I didn't see anything spectacular in there. One decent cut, but that's about it. He still looks shockingly thin in the lower body and while he demonstrates the willingness to lower his shoulder, that's not going to result in any broken tackles.

I still don't think he's an above average RB at this level. What I do like is his situation. I don't think the other backs on the Raiders are very good. Maybe McFadden will have a decent season by sheer accumulation. I'd still be looking to sell if I could get a quality starter in return.
This game was blacked out so I couldn't watch it :thumbdown: But FWIW his burst looked much more sweet in the Tennessee game than what you can see in these highlights.Maybe I'm drinking the Raideraide this year, I dunno, but McFadden made the 1st game watchable even though it was a blowout. Easily the second best player on the field. I'm not sure what you think is an "average RB at this level" - Forte? Portis? Lynch? Mendenhall? Really, I have no idea. But IMO he is definitely above average when healthy. The problem is the guy can't seem to play when injured .. unlike my boy Gore. Which is a significant problem for a NFL RB when you think about it.

ETA: Conversely, I can't see the love for Michael Bush that seems to overflow on these forums. Watch that guy and tell me he is anything but an average NFL RB. The only thing he has going for him is his size and he's not as injury prone as the competition (McFadden and Fargas). Thumb excepted.

 
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Agree that McFadden has been extremly good and looks so much better this year then in the past but Bush has been a really good RB . He has a few 100 yard games and a 4.6 YPC average in his whole career He is fast and powerfull. Bush is perfect for a power rushing game ,. Not saying he is Adrian Peterson but he really is a above average RB. But McFadden is playing on a different level right now.

 
Highlights are up online:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...dden-Highlights

It's only a few plays, but I didn't see anything spectacular in there. One decent cut, but that's about it. He still looks shockingly thin in the lower body and while he demonstrates the willingness to lower his shoulder, that's not going to result in any broken tackles.

I still don't think he's an above average RB at this level. What I do like is his situation. I don't think the other backs on the Raiders are very good. Maybe McFadden will have a decent season by sheer accumulation. I'd still be looking to sell if I could get a quality starter in return.
I think he looked pretty good there. I really liked the cut and instinct shown on the move he made on the linebacker to get into the open field. Too small of a sample-size in these clips to go crazy over, but I certainly would consider it encouraging footage.
 
Chances are you drafted him as your RB5, so he's not likely to get in your lineup anyway. Maybe try to move him for a WR. Who is a good buy low WR? If Calvin hadn't caught that TD he'd be a good target..
I could care less where I drafted him, whether RB5 or RB1. If the guy is playing good, he gets in my lineup. Once draft day is over, the better players with the better matchups start. At this point not a good idea to think you are selling a player that is going to drop off a cliff once Bush comes back. There is a chance he finishes as a Top 20 back. I wouldn't want to trade away that upside for a WR3. Of course you get a Calvin, a different story, but that is not a realistic trade at this point.
 
Trade him. Bush has run better the previous two seasons and did in preseason of this one as well. McFadden has had two good games but odds are that he will have a hammy or turf toe or some other nagging injury that will slow him down and it is all but certain that he will lose touches to Bush--the only question is how many and which ones. His production will go down. Plain and simple. If you can't get good value, then obviously hold, but given the fool's gold love I have seen on the boards you should be able to find someone who is drinking the Kool Aid.

 
I just traded for him because I needed something to fill my granthole and RB is really thin in my league. I have no expectations of a drastic continuation of what he has going on right now and Bush will impact him when he comes back, but the positives are that he has a pretty decent schedule and if there is one thing we've learned from Al Davis is that he like letting his expensive toys play. I see him being the lead RB in a RBBC maybe 60/40 maybe more (one can wish)with a soft schedule. Downsides he has injury history and he plays soft/isn't good between the tackles, he's gonna lose carries.

That looks like a better prospect of bye week or bad matchup week fill in for me than Leon Washington.

It all depends on what you want. If you want an RB1 or RB2 i think you're in trouble if you need a RB3 spot start I think he'll be fine this year.

 
I just traded McFadden and celek for D.Clark. I am very happy with that. If he has a great season my loss. I needed a better TE.

 
Highlights are up online:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...dden-Highlights

It's only a few plays, but I didn't see anything spectacular in there. One decent cut, but that's about it. He still looks shockingly thin in the lower body and while he demonstrates the willingness to lower his shoulder, that's not going to result in any broken tackles.

I still don't think he's an above average RB at this level. What I do like is his situation. I don't think the other backs on the Raiders are very good. Maybe McFadden will have a decent season by sheer accumulation. I'd still be looking to sell if I could get a quality starter in return.
Wow, that highlight reel looked great... his "lowering the shoulder" was actually quite good - he clearly was the aggressor on all of those tackles, which can only tire out the defense further.
 
I'm really torn what to think about McFadden. I think 3 weeks is a trend, but I'm concerned about Bush returning. It seems the majority is down on him thus destorying his trade value. I'm in the boat that I can not get much if anything for him, so he will most likely stay on my roster.

What is an acceptable return for him? Top 10 WR? Top 20 WR?

 
25 carries to Bush 3. I was very interested in how the carries would break down. Makes sense that McFadden should be seeing at least 20 touches (15 run / 5 pass) each week. Why change it?

 
Bush was a full participant in practice this week- and only got 3 carries while McFadden shouldered the load. Keep dreaming Bush owners, this is McFadden's backfield until he's injured.

 

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